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  • so...is this show is trying to tell me that the first time Fadel felt something pleasurable / semi-positive about another person since his ex “left” him, it sent him into a spiral of emotional turmoil so dramatic that he fucking dug his own grave??

    i'm sorry, but never has there been a more clear indication that Fadel and Style were meant to be together. overdramatic (but loveable) idiots, the both of them. 😅

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    why u like fadelstyle so much? the show ended and i still don't feel like theres love between them, same with all jd couples they don't seem like a couple at all

  • oh man how to answer this in a way that will do fadelstyle justice? I think @secriden and @bentnotbroken1fanfiction have much better, very in depth analysis of them as a pair and their wonderful dynamic.

    but for me personally? simply, it’s a type of love that I’m looking for. my personality is very similar to fadel’s, the way style always goes out of his way to understand him and push back against all of fadels attempts to push him away - it really warms my heart.

    they see each other, do you understand? style guesses that fadel could be a hitman, even if it was just a joke - style always saw him for who fadel is and fadel has been in wanting for that devotion, fadel has been aching to just be held and be able to fall apart - when fadel goes to prison style keeps his dream alive. fadel finally found someone who can understand how much he’s had to give, how much he’s always had to put himself second, someone who appreciates fully when fadel does it for him - I think style is the only person who’s ever even attempted to feel the extent of fadel’s sacrifice let alone tell him that he’s deserving of the same and then go out and do it.

    joongdunk have so subliminally portrayed that growing trust between them, that lived through all of fadel’s anger at being betrayed, all of style’s fear of fadel’s dangerous life. they’ve just done so well to show what it means to slowly make space for each other, to fall in love through a gradual understanding of each other, I really felt that no matter what happened between them no matter how angry they were or how much distance there was between them every episode fadel and style loved each other more than the last.

    fadel and style’s romance is one of my favorite couple dynamics period I’m sorry you didn’t feel it and even though we are allowed to interpret shows differently and like different things its a pity that I have no way to make you experience the beauty with which they touched my heart.

  • Oh damn, I haven’t been able to get on tumblr for like 2 weeks+ and I’ve barely even processed Episode 11 let alone 12, but thank you for the shoutout!!

    I honestly think this is such a lovely and insightful reply and one of the things I became obsessed with before the show even started is the way Fadel and Style were clearly designed to fit together “like missing puzzle pieces” (<- a phrase I used in my first ever meta post about Style, before episode 1 even dropped and all we had was the character interview video), and I think this reply captures some of the most essential aspects of this.

    What you say about Style seeing Fadel is so fucking true, and also so fucking important because Fadel is the one character who does not get anyone’s understanding at the start/early parts of the show. Bison already has Fadel who takes care of him and tries his best to accomodate Bison’s wishes despite the danger to their identity; Kant has Babe as a semi-confident of sorts, who he can talk to even if he can’t fully tell Babe all the details; Style has his dad, Kant, and a whole neighbourhood of aunties and uncles and friends (which we see glimpses/references to throughout the series in dialogue or context); hell even Keen has a boyfriend who doesn’t know about his whole ~side gig as a hitman information gatherer~ but clearly loves and supports and isn’t overly phased even when he’s held at gunpoint. But what does Fadel get?? Fadel has no one but a “mother” who used him, who never really loved him, and an ex who (Fadel thought) left him when he found out about Fadel’s true darkness.

    And what I have kept coming back to, over and over and over again, and what I find so incredibly compelling about their relationship is the way Style chooses to love Fadel. There’s something so special about the character who starts out knowing the least, the character who is the most narratively vulnerable and ignorant, and the one most victimised by the context, also being the one who remains unflinchingly loyal, even as each new piece of information about Fadel is revealed. Style chooses to love Fadel and it’s a choice he makes over and over despite Fadel’s early harsh treatment of him, despite Fadel genuinely hurting his feelings after sleeping with Style and tossing him aside, despite Kant revealing Fadel to be a murderer, despite Fadel turning on him and holding him at gunpoint, despite Fadel needing to “finish” his one last job after Style pleads with him to walk away, despite Fadel choosing jail and separation rather than going on the run and dooming Style to five years of loneliness and longing – STYLE FUCKING CHOOSES FADEL. (Like, I’m not saying that Style didn’t have his own hand in their tumultuous relationship; but my point is that loving Fadel was never the easy route and Style walked that path without ever looking back).

    And I think there’s something so much more compelling about a love that comes by choice rather than “helpless” and fleeting emotion. Style’s love for Fadel is intentional and we see the evidence of that in the way he sacrifices so much for Fadel in episode 12. (The whole buying the Heart Burger back for Fadel?? The way it’s done?? I could make a whole post about the way Style not only does it but does it RIGHT. *sobs*)

    And on a similar vein, the way Fadel dismantles his own walls to let Style in is so fucking incredible. The way he does this in such an intentional way despite his own fears and past hurts when it comes to love. (Nope, still not shutting up about Fadel getting himself drunk to lay himself bare for Style. Sorry not sorry.) The way Fadel continues to be very upfront about where he’s at with Style afterwards, the way he explicitly tells Style all his reservations and reasons for doubting Style once the truth is revealed. The way he so clearly wants Style to know the full extent of his darkness and depression and hopelessness, and hell the way he keeps trying to let Style go. Because love also means wanting better for the person you cherish and Fadel would rent his own heart to shreds again, would return to that darkness if that was what Style wanted.

    Their love is so grounded and evidenced in real actions and sacrifice and care and it boggles the mind how anyone could think they don’t love each other.

    As characters, they truly, for me, stand out as one of the most intensely interesting and compelling relationships I’ve encountered in a while. They were intentionally designed to be difficult to come together, made to clash and rub up against each other and bring out the worse in each other; but in doing so, found honesty and truth and that makes their love all the more real to me.

    As for JoongDunk’s portrayal of these characters – listen, there’s always going to be differences in opinion and preferences, but here are my general thoughts:

    There are some instances of Dunk as Style that didn’t fully land for me (eg. the crying scene in the car bed cuz they tried to balance comedy and drama and succeeded at neither; or the kissing in episode 12 when Fadel and Style are in bed and Dunk for some bizarre reason maintains like a foot of distance between their bodies) but others that I think were fucking incredible (eg. Style pressing worshipful hands and kisses on Fadel’s body in his bed in episode 5; the opening scene in episode 6 when Style looks up at Fadel with frank wonder and open invitation; the look of tragic acceptance as Style thinks he’s saying goodbye to Fadel after the rock concert; the look of acceptance and understanding when Fadel turns away from Style’s kiss in the bathtub scenes – I could go on). I think Dunk was incredible when it came to the emotionally fraught moments with Fadel and his breakdown at the end of episode 11 was an undeniable example of how well he can communicate both the intense and subtle emotions of his characters. The comedy aspects were over the top and loud, but that was also an intentional character choice that I have no issues with and never did from the beginning. Style is who he is, unabashedly and without reservation, and I loved that from the beginning.

    And I think the transformation Joong went through as Fadel was also very beautiful to watch. We are intentionally shown Fadel as being cold and clinical in the early parts of the show and then as each new aspect of his character is peeled back, Joong allows the softness inside to bleed into the way he holds Fadel too. The harshness comes back when Fadel finds out about Style’s betrayal, but Joong changes how he portrays Fadel and allows the inner agony and vulnerability to bleed through like Fadel’s facade is cracking. I said in another post after episode 9 that I’m so grateful that the show gave Fadel the space to journey into accepting Style back, and this still holds true even until episode 12. Joong was incredibly nuanced as Fadel and ALL OF IT was wrapped up in Style and how being loved by Style and loving him changes Fadel.

    But am I surprised that not everyone sees this? Not really. Watching SIMM and then seeing all the hate and low ratings about it online has made me convinced that some people simply don’t watch things the way I do and that’s… disappointing but there’s nothing I can do about it except write posts that hopefully resonate with other people so that I can, at the very least, gather the people who DO appreciate it and love them for what they are good at together into my little corner of the internet. <3

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    Joong’s level of unhinged fanservice is top notch - 10/10 😂

    Source: Joong’s IG channel

    02/02/2025

    So…anyway, you heard the man - go on, use it as your wallpaper:

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    Are you gonna be so sweet to me like this all day? Yeah. Get ready for that. You’ll get a toothache just from this. Looking forward to it. It’s too bad I didn’t get to see your sweet side from the get-go. You wasted all that time being so mean to me. Who’d want to be sweet with an annoying guy? You’re just like Bison. You always find something good in a bad guy. I believe people can change. I love a mission.

    THE HEART KILLERS | EP11

  • Style breaks down at the end because he learned how to be strong for his dad, but because his dad eventually recovers, his strength has an end point.

    But Kant– Kant stays strong and holds Style together and never truly allows himself to fracture because Kant is used to being strong for Babe; and because Kant took on the role of parent when his own died, he’s never gotten the chance to let his strength go, so it has no ending point.

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    "I don't feel so sad anymore."

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    Also context is important: Thailand does have the death penalty. It’s rare and all, but technically it’s there. And I don’t know about Thailand, but it’s not exactly unheard of for people in Malaysia to “disappear” while awaiting trial, especially when its something involving corruption and/or high powered individuals, which kind of counts in this case because of Lily apparently setting up a assassin for hire (which Fadel and Bison were unwittingly very involved with) for the wealthy and powerful.

    How in the world did episode 11 somehow give the silly, goofy, comedic relief character all the sensible lines?

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    JOONG ARCHEN and DUNK NATACHAI
    in HIDDEN AGENDA (2023) | THE HEART KILLERS (2024)

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    It was so sad to see Style crying like that, but more than that I was initially so shocked? Style has been a ray of sunshine and see him completely break down down like that-my heart stopped for a few seconds! This is the third time we see Style cry (if we didn't count the near-crying throughout this episode cause my gosh he was putting on a brave face in front of Fadel) and I genuinely did not expect to see him cry so much. My heart just broke :(

  • I think something that really got to me about the context of Style’s breakdown is knowing that Style has extensive experience with what it means to have to be “strong” for the sake of someone else. We know his dad broke down / potentially was emotionally and maybe even mentally absent after his mom died (“he lost his bearings for a bit” is vague, but it gives us an idea that it was both fairly severe and also prolonged enough to be concerning), we know that Style had to cope with that when he was “only a kid” and so much of this learned coping can be seen in this episode.

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    Even while the plan to turn Lily in is in motion, it’s Style that ensures the practicalities of Fadel and Bison having fake passports and an idea of how to get out of the country. And it makes so much fucking sense for them not to trust the Captain, who has literally been nothing but shady and unreliable – like we literally meet him going back on his word by blackmailing Kant with a record he was already supposed to have expunged.

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    As much as I appreciate Kant having his little revenge blackmail plotline (for the poetry of it all - also, Kant’s expression in this scene is <3), it was purely happenstance that he stumbled on it in the first place. Kant didn’t even realise that the Captain would be at Babe’s school; his surprise when he sees him is a clear indication of that. So Kant’s plan, as far as we know, really was to trust in the Captain’s reliability (the disbelief, it’s SO very suspended).

    So I’m really grateful, not only for the good sense Style had to take these precautions, but also how it shows that Style’s carefree and seemingly childish demeanour does not preclude him from being serious when something matters to him: Style is thinking, planning, and actively taking steps to ensure that Fadel and Bison somehow maintain their freedom.

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    And all of this is motivated by something so very simple: Style’s love for Fadel is so complete, so fundamental to what he wants for his future, that Style has no reservations with uprooting his entire life, potentially leaving his dad and everything he’s ever known, for years, as long as he gets to be with Fadel. The only thing Style is truly afraid of is not having this future. He can stomach anything else, but not an outcome that would deny him being by Fadel’s side.

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    So when it all comes crashing down, when the brothers decide they’re going to take the deal and Style is forced to accept Fadel’s choice, Style is genuinely upset for himself. Fadel is resigned to this; if anything, as he says himself, 5 years is nothing compared to the life sentence or death he was expecting. But Fadel being on the run would have allowed Style to be with Fadel, while jail means a prolonged separation, and the whole point of all of Style’s efforts at the start of the episode was to avoid precisely this outcome.

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    But Style’s love is also inherently selfless. I’ve been saying this over and over again, and it was so clear to me in episode 7 and 8 that Style will set aside his own feelings, will deny his own immediate wants, if he knows it will benefit the one he loves. The day was never about what Style wanted or even Style’s own feelings about missing Fadel. This last day was a gift to Fadel, a chance to make memories which may be all Fadel has to carry him through the next 5 years.

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    So Style takes one last moment for himself, one moment to allow the agony he feels to bleed through when Fadel cannot see it…

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    …before he commits himself to being nothing but cheerful and comforting and understanding and supportive to Fadel for the rest of the day. I know it was a small moment, but it broke me the way Style very clearly places his hand under Fadel’s. The way he gives Fadel something to hold onto, to anchor himself to, as Fadel tries to find the words to promise Style’s dad a future he knows he cannot guarantee. Style’s entire fucking thing this episode is a harrowing lesson on putting on a front and being strong for someone else.

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    Because Fadel wants this so badly. He wants his last day with Style to be a happy one. He wants to take the time to show his affection and care and cling onto the pretence at normalcy, to spend the day being the kind of sweet boyfriend Fadel never really got the chance to be with Style because the last time he did this was when he was lying to Style and he thought Style didn’t love him. And Style gives Fadel the relief of being strong enough to bear what Fadel wants; even in the face of Fadel’s grave and a rather morbid conversation that fringes on suicidal ideation, Style finds a way to make Fadel smile.

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    So we get a do-over, a highlight reel of some of their most intense moments of either connection or fracturing, only this time, Fadel gets to be honest about what he feels for Style. He gets to accept Style’s love without having to pretend that he doesn’t want or need it. He gets to let Style know just how much Style means to him, why Fadel is so grateful that Style came into his life. And Style, selfless and true to his promise gives Fadel everything he needs to get through the day. Gives Fadel exactly what he asked for even if it carved out his own heart in the process.

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    And oh god, I’m so grateful for this acknowledgement that Fadel knows what is going on. He knows that Style is sad, he knows that Style feels things keenly, that the jokes and the flippant words are a mere coverup. But he also understands that this is how Style both deals with his grief and also that it’s being done out of love, and so Fadel allows himself to be grateful and to love Style all the more for it.

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    And even when Fadel himself breaks, when the tears come at the end of the night, when Fadel has been forced to take Style’s promise to remain true to him despite Fadel wanting better for him, Style gives Fadel the dignity of pretending all he’s wiping away are the crumbs on his face and not the proof of Fadel’s inability to be strong for himself.

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    Which is why I knew this was coming. I knew that Style could only go so long, could only be so strong, before he would crumble. Because this was the one thing Style didn’t want to happen. This was the one fucking thing he asked Fadel for – that they would get to be together, no matter what the cost was. And oh, he was so brave when he realised it wasn’t going to happen, he was so strong even as he was forced to watch Fadel walk into handcuffs, right until the car disappeared into the darkness… and when Fadel could no longer see him, that’s when Style shatters.

    Because five years is still too fucking long when your heart’s just been taken from you.

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    “It’s okay. It’s okay”

    THE HEART KILLERS | EPISODE 11

  • Also like they keep saying “get over the border” and at first I was like “Into Malaysia??! 🤔” and then I remembered how terrible our police force and justice system is and, yeah, sounds about right. 😅

  • Style so in love and horny he’d rather go to jail then continue being unable to touch Fadel.

    Truly, character of all time.

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    GOD. This is. Just so, so, SO adorable. Style knows him so well he can predict the exact path Fadel’s expression of affection is going to take.

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    Just look at Fadel’s quiet amusement, but also kind of this tentative wonder?? Oh, to be known and loved so fully; Fadel never thought he’d ever have this, and it just fills him with so much happiness.

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    And the quietness of Style’s satisfaction. The way there isn’t even a hint of Style’s performative manner from the beginning. Just… the way their entire dynamic has transformed this series… I’m just so 🥺 about it <3

  • so…is this show is trying to tell me that the first time Fadel felt something pleasurable / semi-positive about another person since his ex “left” him, it sent him into a spiral of emotional turmoil so dramatic that he fucking dug his own grave??

    i’m sorry, but never has there been a more clear indication that Fadel and Style were meant to be together. overdramatic (but loveable) idiots, the both of them. 😅

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