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I’m writing a romcom where the leading lady is a black ghost woman, and I’ve made sure to write them as healthy a couple as I could. About halfway through the story, she goes to her not-dead husband (He’s a WASP, and also big on fidelity because of the P part), tells him that she misses sex, and asks if he’d be alright if she started a friends-with-benefits thing with the ghost who’s haunting the neighbors.
He’s not exactly thrilled at the thought of that, but they can’t have sex anymore, so they have a long chat where she makes it abundantly clear that there’ll be nothing romantic between her and and the neighbor ghost, and eventually the couple sort it all out and reach a compromise where he doesn’t feel like he’s getting cheated on and she can have her needs met.
And I realize this is speeding headlong at 120mph towards the promiscuous black girl stereotype, and so I’ve done everything I can think of to try to negate it. She’s very affectionate to him, I make it clear they only love each other, and of course, they have that little heart-to-heart before she goes to the neighbor ghost, but there’s no avoiding it because she’s the one who brought it up in the first place. So is there any other way I can make sure I only breeze over the stereotype like a speedbump instead of plowing right into it?
On stereotypes
Going in while aware of the stereotype sounds like a great start. I think having them talk about their relationship in an open and candid way shows their intentions. It sounds to me like they are negotiating how to open up their relationship to a third party (on her side) and if they discuss rules over exclusivity with their partners that it would counter the promiscuity issue.
That would however also open up the promiscuity stereotypes around polygamy though and keeping that in mind, broadening the perspective of what relationships might look like and what they are okay or not okay with would be good.
Aside from that, you’ll need to be mindful of how sexualized she’s portrayed on the page too, so having her be fleshed out, including having more than a “horny mode” (excuse me for a lack of better words). ~ Mod Alice
Ensure both sides consent to the arrangement
I’m not polyamorous, but I’ve read quite a few anecdotes where opening the relationship, so one partner can have sex, when the other person is unhappy about it, becomes the beginning of the end. Of course, neither were ghosts, but the point still stands.
So, please ensure your Black ghost wife is NOT coercing her husband into giving his blessing for her to have sex with others. That is, unless she is intentionally meant to be seen as more villainous or a possibly disliked character.
The polyamorous part, in itself, is not the potential pitfall; it is the fact that the husband is not okay with it. If he’s barely agreeing, then yes that can absolutely paint the Black character in a negative light beyond just hypersexualization. Again, if that’s your intention, so be it and perhaps add a more positive or neutral representation of a Black woman as well.
Now, if he agrees and either does become fine with it or grows into being okay with it, I think that’s an improvement, and consider all the things Alice mentioned above regarding your Black woman ghost’s characterization.
If it is not your intent to put her in a negative light, please ensure:
She is not forcing him into agreeing
It is truly a mutual decision
Perimeters are set where they are both comfortable, happy and secure
Other ideas that may work
And this is an aside, but more of a story exploration, so take it with a grain of salt:
Is it possible she could possess someone’s body in order for them to touch and connect physically?
Meet on the astral plane? In dreams?
I’ve seen this done in a couple of works.
SPOILERS UPCOMING: The Lovely Bones and the Umbrella Academy
The Lovely Bones book by Alice Sebold comes to mind. The dead character, Susie, kisses and has sex with her crush. The living woman, that she possesses, consents to being a “vessel” for them to have this moment together.
Note: I do not support this author, as a person, and only share this scenario as an example.
There were also a few scenes in the Umbrella Academy TV series.
ALT
One of the dead characters possesses his necromancer brother in order to connect to a woman he has a crush on. There are other scenes where he happily experiences physical touch again, such as a hug from his other brother, eating fruit, and so on.
That is to say; there may even be platonic ways where your character misses touch and intimacy. Perhaps the husband is comfortable with her cuddling another to recreate that bond of touch. It does not all have to be about sex, although that may be part of it.
Also, how does, say, “autoeroticism” work in the ghost form? Is it possible? I feel like it’s something the husband would have brought up during the conversation, since he initially was not okay with the idea of her being with another person.
Possible resource for you
The video game Banishers: Ghosts of New Eden shows the complex relationship between a living and dead partner. This might be of inspiration when writing their dynamic overall!
ALT
Black and poly followers, feel free to chime in with any insights.
Mod Leigh adds some super key additions to this that should really help this story, so please check it out!
~Colette
Commenting as someone nonblack but polyamorous, with permission from Alice and Colette.
Men Have Needs, Too
To echo Colette: the biggest thing for me here is the inequality in the agreement with the husband. In all of this discussion, you’ve never really explained how he views having a dead wife he can no longer have sex with. Has this impacted him much? Has he been silently suffering? What’s his view in all of this as someone sexual himself and his needs aren’t being met either? Men are allowed to have healthy sexualities, too, and I’d honestly love to see more of it.
And for me that’s a tiny bit of a problem; the “why” he is unhappy with it feels like it comes from taking a stock Christian archetype and then letting it sit there. Like, this archetype doesn’t come out of nowhere—a lot of Protestants are really, really, really serious about marriage and not divorcing, even though permission to divorce is kind of the foundation of Anglican denominations but I digress—but it doesn’t have to be such a stock trope.
Because really—what does he feel about their life? Has he considered going out and dating because of this, but he hasn’t brought it up because of his own hang-ups? Does he have crushes, or does he want to use the oft-done “cheat pass” that some even devout Protestant couples set up? Is his bristling at change in the relationship dynamic give way to relief he has freedom to go get his own needs met, too?
He had life plans gone awry, just like she did. What freedom is he getting out of this, and how is this mutually beneficial? It has to be mutually beneficial for this to not look like the male character is being sidelined. He has grief, and needs, and plans too. What’s he going to get out of this other than “not feeling cheated on”?
WASP does not mean personality-less, and I want to see more development of his character. Devotion comes in many, many forms, not just rigid fidelity to someone who can’t meet all your needs.
Christianity, Marriages, and Ghosts
This section is written with the assumption of a devout lens, because you emphasize he takes marriage seriously from his faith. If this section feels like a lot for the story, consider dialing him back to a more Easter/Christmas Christian, or cultural Christian, instead of devout. The previous section about his needs and the following section about polyamoury still apply even if you do dial his faith back, however.
Hello, Writing with Color! First of all, thank you for all you do. Second, do you have any advice for a white person retelling fairy tales, both European fairy tale and non-European fairy tales? Is it okay to retell non-European fairy tales? I would feel bad if all fairy tales I retold were European as those are over represented, but given how much white people have erased and whitewashed other culture’s fairy tales I understand if that were off-limits for a white person. Thank you!
Fairy tale retellings are my favorite thing. I love reading, rewriting and creating new fairy tale-style stories with People of Color!
As you write, keep in mind:
European does not mean white.
The possibility of PoC in European or Western historical settings tends to throw off so many.
There are plenty of European People of Color, then and today. You can have an Indian British little red riding hood and it isn’t “unrealistic.” And we wanna read about them!
Still, research the history of your settings and time period. Use multiple credible sources, as even the most well-known ones may exclude the history of People of Color or skim over it. The stories might be shoved into a corner, but we live and have lived everywhere. The specific groups (and numbers of) in a certain region may vary, though.
How and when did they or their family get there, and why?
Has it been centuries, decades, longer than one can remember?
Who are the indigenous people of the region? (Because hey, places like America and Australia would love to have you believe its earliest people were white…)
Is there a connection with the Moors, trade, political marriage; was it simply immigration?
No need to elaborate all too much. A sentence or more woven into the story in passing may do the trick to establish context, depending on your story and circumstance.
Or if you want to ignore all of that, because this is fantasy-London or whatever, by all means do. POC really don’t need a explanation to exist, but I simply like to briefly establish context for those who may struggle to “get it”, personally. This is a side effect of POC being seen as the Other and white as the default.
Although, if PoC existing in a fairy tale is the reader’s biggest stumbling block in a world of magic, speculation, or fantasy, that’s none of your concern.
Can you picture any of the people below, or someone with these backgrounds, the protagonist of their own fairytale? I hope so!
Above: Painting of Dido Elizabeth Belle (1760s - 1800s), British Heiress with her cousin. Check out her history as well as the movie, Belle (2013).
Above: Abraham Janssens - The Agrippine Sibyl - Netherlands (c. 1575)
“Since ancient times Sybils were considered seers sent by god, priestesses foretelling the coming of great events. This model serves to depict the Sybil of Agrippina, one of the 12 that foretold the coming of Christ. Notice the flagellum and crown of thrones which are symbolic objects reminding the viewer of Christs suffering.” X
Above: “Major Musa Bhai, 3 November 1890. Musa Bhai travelled to England in 1888 as part of the Booth family, who founded the Salvation Army.” X
Above: Eleanor Xiniwe and Johanna Jonkers, respectively and other members of the African Choir, who all had portraits taken at the London Stereoscopic Company in 1891.
“The African Choir were a group of young South African singers that toured Britain between 1891 and 1893. They were formed to raise funds for a Christian school in their home country and performed for Queen Victoria at Osborne House, a royal residence on the Isle of Wight.” X
The examples above just scratch the surface. Luckily, more and more historians and researchers are publishing lesser known (and at times purposefully masked) PoC history.
There is a hyper-focus on chattel slavery as if the times when and where it occurred is the only narrative that exists. And even when it is part of a Person of Color’s history, that is seldom all there is to say of the person or their lives. For example, Dido Elizabeth Belle.
People of Color were not all slaves, actively enslaved, or oppressed for racial reasons at all times in history! Dig deep into the research of your time period and region. Across the long, wide history of the world, People of Color are and were a norm and also NOT simply exceptions. Explore all the possibilities to discover the little known and seldom told history. Use this as inspiration for your writing.
PoC (especially Black people) were not always in chains, especially in a world of your making.
Don’t get me wrong. These stories do have a place and not even painful histories should be erased. I personally read these stories as well, if and when written by someone who is from the background. Some might even combine fairy tale, fantasy, and oppression in history. However…
There are plenty of stories on oppressed PoC. How many fairy tales?
Many European tales have versions outside of Europe.
Just because a tale was popularized under a western setting doesn’t mean that it originates there. Overtime, many were rewritten and altered to fit European settings, values and themes.
Read original tales.
You might be inspired to include a story in its original setting. Even if you kept it in a western setting, why not consider a protagonist from the ethnicity of the story’s origin?
For example: the Cinderella most are familiar with was popularized by the French in 1697. However, Cinderella has Chinese and Greek versions that date back from the 9th Century CE and 6th Century BCE, respectively.
Choosing a Setting: European or Non-European?
I do not see anything wrong with either (I write tales set in western and non-western settings, all with Heroines of Color). There is great potential in both.
Non-Western Settings (pros and cons)
Normalizes non-Western settings. Not just the “exotic” realm of the Other.
Potential for rich, cultural elements and representation
Requires more research and thoughtfulness (the case for any setting one is unfamiliar with, though)
European or Western Setting (pros and cons)
Normalizes PoC as heroes, not the Other, or only fit to be side characters.
Representation for People of Color who live in Western countries/regions
Loss of some cultural elements (that character can still bring in that culture, though! Living in the West often means balancing 2+ cultures)
Outdated Color and Ethnic Symbolism
Many fairy tales paint blackness (and darkness, and the Other) as bad, ominous and ugly, and white as good and pure.
Language that worships whiteness as the symbol of beauty. For example: “Fair” being synonymous with beauty. Characters like Snow White being the “fairest” of them all.
Don’t follow an old tale back into that same pit of dark and Other phobia. There’s many ways to change up and subvert the trope, even while still using it, if you wish. Heroines and heroes can have dark skin and large noses and still stand for good, innocence and beauty.
Some stories and creatures belong to a belief system and is not just myth to alter. Before writing or changing details, read and seek the opinions of the group. You might change the whole meaning of something by tweaking details you didn’t realize were sacred and relevant.
Combine Tales Wisely:
Picking stories and beings from different cultural groups and placing them in one setting can come across as them belonging to the same group or place (Ex: A Japanese fairy tale with Chinese elements). This misrepresents and erases true origins. If you mix creatures or elements from tales, show how they all play together and try to include their origin, so it isn’t as if the elements were combined at random or without careful selection.
Balance is key:
When including creatures of myths, take care to balance your Human of Color vs. creatures ratio, as well as the nature of them both (good, evil, gray moral). EX: Creatures from Native American groups but no human Native characters from that same group (or all evil, gray, or too underdeveloped to know) is poor representation.
Moral Alignment:
Changing a good or neutral cultural creature into something evil may be considered disrespectful and misappropriation.
Have Fun!
No, seriously. Fairy tales, even those with the most somber of meanings, are meant to be intriguing little adventures. Don’t forget that as you write or get hung up on getting the “right message” out and so on. That’s what editing is for.
Hi! So, one of my main characters is of mixed race(mother is Irish (and white) and dad from India) and he's a werewolf. I'm afraid this could come across as associating POC with animals, even if he's also the most sensible of the main cast (and the leader of the good guys). His 'werewolfiness' comes from his mother's side and he's not the only POC or the only werewolf, but he's the most relevant werewolf in the story. I've been told me to just make him white. What would be the best option?
Like most cases, it depends. Having a Werewolf of Color does not have to be a problem, but I implore you to have more Indian characters who are human, possibly more werewolves (at the every least mentioned) of various ethnicities and have his “werewolfiness” not linked to him being a Person of Color.
I’m going to add that “just making him white” is a very common but hurtful sentiment which allows for potential whitewashing, all-white casting and other problems. Avoiding these problems only switches them for others though. It is better to be inclusive, stray from stereotypes, be respectful and fully develop your characters and give them agency than to just make it another white cis-hetero boy or whatever.
Lastly, it reminds me a little of Tyler Posey who plays the lead in Teen Wolf as a werewolf and is a POC (his mother is Mexican). The show definitely has a lot of problems, but it’s been an interesting watch so far.
~ Mod Alice
Sounds like an interesting concept and I love BIPOC shifters!
In my animal shifters WIP, there are no non-shifter characters thus far in the cast, not counting say, a stray store clerk or casual interactions with non reappearing humans. In my case, the cast is very racially diverse. The bulk of the main and side characters are BIPOC of many groups, but there are also important white shifters who are in the cast that exist. So, being a shifter is not specific or associated with being a Person of Color and especially not with one particular race or ethnicity.
In your story’s case, the wolf side comes from the Irish white mother, so perhaps we see the mother or more white wolf characters from that.
All that being said, there are ways to help the dynamic to avoid dehumanization.
Diversity in the were characters
Having a range of characters that are shifters / “Were” and not just one race/ethnicity of color are animal shifters/. As Alice mentioned, this is a good idea.
This is where the book series Twilight by Stephanie Meyerfails. Only Indigenous people, specifically the Quileute Tribe, are werewolves. They can transform at will, but also without trying in a moment of rage, the power can be a bit uncontrollable and has lead to harm of loved ones (e.g,. one of the shifters scarred his fiancée on accident while shifting).
In this story’s case, the nature of the werewolves are in deep contrast to the “perfect” white and pale, stealthy and more calculating vampires who also can keep a more human appearance.
The misappropriation of their cultures and having a very specific ethnic group of people become animals has real-life dehumanizing consequences for these folks and many have talked about it.
So! If there are a variety of races who are, and can be werewolves, including white people if they are in the story (or even that just exist in the universe!), that would significantly help.
Twilight movie: cast of werewolf shifter characters
Human characters who are not were
As Alice also mentioned, having a human character(s) that is Indian (and possibly in your case, an Indian man) would help with the dynamics and help balance out any dehumanization implications. Sure, a passer-by character is better than nothing, but having some significance to the character is better. I think an way easy to do this would be to include family characters who are not were. In a limited cast, even if they only show up in memory, flashback, or are mentioned a lot, it’s better than nothing.
How the weres act
Now, i’m not sure if your werewolves are portrayed as uncontrollable, murderous and feral or more of a shifter like-were who changes at will and can control themselves for the most part and doesn’t necessary just destroy. That’s important, because yes, if these werewolves are very much animalistic, destructive and not in touch with their human side, and yet are only BIPOC (or, in your case, only Indian), there are dehumanizing implications. Whether it comes from the white side or not doesn’t make much of a difference because the character is still very much Indian.
So, that’s where having a variety of characters and BIPOC humans, if possible, would help!
More reading
(We’ve talked about shifters a lot over the years)
Hi, thank you for the work you do! I had a question about my story - one of my main characters, who’s Latino, works on his friend’s family’s dairy farm in Texas in the 70s. The friend is white, and it’s a small farm with about 50 cows, so it’s only him, his friend, and his friend’s father, plus some seasonal workers. The character and his friend end up falling in love, and I want to make sure I don’t play into stereotypes here. The character is not poor, but he is hardworking. He’s also gay.
There are a couple of other things at play - his friend offers him the job in the first place because it’s set during the Vietnam war, and if you worked on a farm you could possibly get a draft deferment. He could get more money working for his father, but he ends up staying on because he really enjoys the work. I do want to be careful with any sort of power dynamic here as well, though - he and his friend both work for his friend’s father, but obviously, one is the son and one is hired.
I’m not sure what your question is (#rubberstampapproved), but here are some thoughts on the premise.
Latino man does farm labor to avoid war
This sounds like a great story, and I think you’ve steered clear of playing into stereotypes. Let’s explore what you shared:
Farm labor as an excuse to avoid Vietnam is a very compelling reason to volunteer to work on a farm, regardless of how hard the work is!
It sets up a valid motivation for the Latino-doing-hard-labor trope that otherwise is commonly unintentionally deployed and perpetuates negative stereotypes.
Also, when the Latino MC chooses to stay on, emphasizing his sense of agency and the things he enjoys about the work can mitigate some of that manual labor trope as well.
The setting of Texas and having a mix of people around them like the seasonal workers and locals allows a good range of potential foils, and offers many opportunities to explore those power dynamics you mentioned.
Consider cultural and gender dynamics
Additionally, consider cultural and gender dynamics around masculinity: If you’re writing queer characters in Texas in the 70’s, especially Latino queer characters, there will be more to be mindful of. I served in the Marines and my father and uncles have worked in different trades; the culture of masculinity around “hard labor jobs” like the military, trades, farm work, etc tends to trend towards straight passing “tough” appearances for better or worse.
It’s also worth noting that queer people can be, and often are, straight passing and thriving in these spaces - even if they do not announce it.
You may also want to consider Machismo culture, and how queer Latinos in spaces that center and celebrate straight-passing masculinity have to navigate that. Additionally, much of Latino culture is also heavily rooted in Catholicism from Spanish colonization, so that reinforces a culture of anti-queerness. These things may or may not factor into the MC’s relationship or development, but they are culturally significant enough to mention.
Regardless of your focus, I think this is a fantastic setting and story premise and I’d love to hear back about the finished work. You did a great job setting up a story with lots of space for nuance and depth. Good luck!
Melanie 🌻
[Note: this rubber stamp ask was submitted before the Masterpost rules took effect in 2023. We have chosen to publish it to prime our readers on Latine topics and tropes.]
I often see media of Hispanic people being mechanics and am wondering if I am playing into this stereotype with one of my secondary characters.
I did not find anything on your blog about this particular trope and do not know how harmful it is/why. The main five characters are all scientists specializing in different fields. My mc’s best friend is mostly Argentinian with some Nicaraguan ancestry. She is a mechanical engineer with a specialty in prosthetics and makes her own above knee prosthetic legs. There is a Mexican character shown later who is a captain of the city guard and very much a leader and not handy.
Are there pitfalls to avoid in this representation? Does her specialty fit negative stereotypes and why?
Hi, thanks for asking. #rubber stamp approved (per Masterpost rules, I cannot give these out any more. This is sort of a joke, but really, this is a great ask to explore ideas of Latino-Americans and Labor stereotypes.)
It sounds like you have a variety of Latino representation planned for your story. That’s fantastic (and the make or break for me.) You plan to showcase Latinos in different professionalized fields, which is positive. The “ethnic menial labor” trope or “Latino mechanic” trope become problematic when it’s the only representation given for Latino characters, or they’re showcased as one dimensional side-notes to non-Latino MCs. Having variety will offset the heavy (and often negative) overuse of Menial Labor and Hard Labor jobs.
Many of my Latino family members and friends are trades workers or do ‘hard-labor’ or ‘menial-labor’ jobs. My father was a roofer before he changed careers. My grandfather worked the racetracks. My best friend’s dad managed a restaurant. These jobs, whether ‘hard-labor’ or ‘menial,’ put food on the table and are not indigent. They take care of our families.
As long as Latinos in these jobs are not framed as less-than, I have no problem with the range of experiences being displayed. The fact that your characters fit into jobs across the socioeconomic spectrum mitigates your concern about stereotyping.
Seeing more professionalized Latino characters is great, and I can’t wait to read it.
[this rubber stamp ask was submitted before the Masterpost rules took effect in 2023. We have chosen to publish it to prime our readers on Latine topics and tropes.]
In honor of BHM, we’ve compiled a list of some of our top favorite reads (thus far) that are either by Black diaspora authors and/or the main character is Black. Feel free to add your own to this list!
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Colette’s picks
For my recommendations, I’ve focused on escapism and/or Black woman romances only, because we all can use a bit of joy. These are adult readsby Black authors.
The King’s Seer (series) by L.S. Bethel | Genre: Feudal, Fantasy, Romance, Alt World, BWAM (Hero is Korean-Coded) | Link(My new favorite series)
Voices and Visions by Lashell Collins (Touched Series) | Genre: Mystery, Psychic Detective, Romance, BWWM | TW: Escape from off-screen domestic violence, murder | Link(Love this series so far!)
Taken to Voraxia (Xiveri Mates Series) by Elizabeth Stephens | Genre: Sci-Fi Romance, Fantasy (BWAlien &Alien) Coded race | TW: Kidnapped bride | Link
Taken to Nobu (Xiveri Mates Series) by Elizabeth Stephens | Genre: Sci-Fi Romance, Fantasy (BW&Alien) | TW: Kidnapped bride | Link
Unfrozen by Regine Abel | Genre: Paranormal Romance, Sci-Fi BW&Alien/Monster | TW: Torture, experiments (briefly at beginning) Link
I Married a Naga (Prime Mating Agency, #2) by Regine Abel | Genre: Sci-Fi Romance, Marriage of Convenience BW&Alien/Monster | Link
Rescued by Her Relic by Paulina Woods | Genre: Sci-Fi Romance, BW&Alien/Cyborg, Apocalypse | Link
The Alpha Promise by Hayat Ali | Genre: Paranormal Romance, Vampires, BWAM | Link
Deena’s Deception by G.S. Carr | Genre: Western, Historical Romance, Mail-order Bride, BWWM | Link
Chosen by Tiffany Patterson | Genre: Paranormal Romance, Shapeshifters, BWIM (Indigenous hero) | Link
A mix of fictional narratives, memoir, and politics/culture. All adult reads.
The Splinter in the Sky by Kemi Ashing-Giwa | Genre: Sci-Fi, Romance | Link
*Kindred by Octavia Butler | Genre: Sci Fi | Link (*Triple recommended by multiple mods!)
Razorblade Tears by S.A. Cosby | Genre: Mystery, Thriller, Suspense | Link
Devil in a Blue Dress by Walter Mosely | Genre: Mystery | Link
Death of the Author by Nnedi Okorafor | Genre: Mixed/Meta | Link
Between the World and Me by Ta-Nehisi Coates | Genre: Bio & Memoir | Link
Heavy: An American Memoir by Kiese Laymon | Genre: Memoir | Link
Hood Feminism: Notes from the Women that a Movement Forgot by Mikki Kendall | Genre: Politics, Society & Current Affairs | Link
The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness by Michelle Alexander | Genre: Politics, Society & Current Affairs | Link
SK’s picks
If Beale Street Could Talk by James Baldwin | Genre: Fantasy, Romance | Link
They Can’t Kill Us Until They Kill Us by Hanif Abdurraqib | Genre: Nonfiction, Essay Collection | Link
Buried Beneath the Baobab Tree by Adaoabi Tricia Nwaubani | Genre: Young Adult Realistic Fiction | CW: violence and sexual assault | Link
With the Fire on High by Elizabeth Acevedo| Genre: Young Adult Realistic Fiction | Link
Copper Sun by Sharon Draper | Young Adult Historical Fiction | CW sexual assault and slavery| Link
After Tupac and D Foster by Jacqueline Woodson| Young Adult Realistic Fiction | book deals with racism, incarceration, and the foster system | Link
Jaya’s picks
The Poisons We Drink by Bethany Baptiste | Genre: Fantasy, Young Adult (violence against activists) | Link
Each of Us A Desert by Mark Oshiro| Genre: Young Adult, Fantasy | Link
The Hate U Give by Angie Thomas| Genre: Young Adult, Realistic (racial profiling, Black Lives Matter) | Link
Nic Blake and the Remarkables: The Manifestor Prophecy by Angie Thomas| Genre: Fantasy | Link
Krik? Krak! by Edwidge Danticat| Genre: Short Stories (violence in Haiti) | Link
Monster by Walter Dean Myers | Genre: Young Adult (racial profiling) | Link
Meir’s picks
Parable of the Sower by Octavia Butler | Genre: Sci Fi (tw for apocalyptic climate conditions)| Link
Parable of the Talents by Octavia Butler | Genre: Sci Fi (tw for apocalyptic climate conditions)| Link
This is a two-part series taking place in a sometimes uncomfortably realistic near-future climate apocalypse. Lauren Olamina is a young woman with a hyperempathy disorder who is determined not only to survive, but to make sure her loved ones, her greater community, and humanity as a whole survive as well. To do this, she will have to found a settlement and a religion.
The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms by N. K. Jemisin | Genre: Fantasy | Link
I’m still in the middle of reading this one, but it’s already a compelling and suspenseful story of dynastic succession and powerful but unpredictable magical beings. Don’t spoil it for me!
Jess’ picks
Raybearer duology by Jordan Ifueko | Genre: Fantasy, YA | Link
The Year of the Witching by Alexis Henderson | Genre: Gothic/Horror, Fantasy | Link
James by Percival Everett | Genre: Historical, Literary | Link
Daughter of the Merciful Deep by Leslye Penelope | Genre: Fantasy, YA | Link
The Kingston Cycle by C.L. Polk | Genre: Historical, Fantasy | Link
The Midnight Bargain by C.L. Polk | Genre: Historical, Fantasy | Link
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I have a story set in the modern day with supernatural traces, with three characters: a young boy, his bio dad, and his adoptive dad. The boy and his bio dad are Indian, the adoptive dad is Chinese.
The bio dad is one of the few people in the story with powers. He put his son up for adoption when he was a child because at the time he was a young single father, had little control of the strength of his powers: he feared accidentally hurting his child. The son is adopted by the other dad, who holds spite to the bio dad for giving up his son since he lost his father as a young age and couldn’t get why someone would willingly abandon their child.
This also results in him being overprotective and strict over his son. When the child is older, the bio dad comes to their town and the son gets closer to him, which makes the adoptive dad pissed, mostly acting hostile to the other guy, paranoid that he’ll decide to take away the child he didn’t help raise. Later when they get closer he does change his biases.
I can see the possible stereotypes here: the absent father being the darkskinned character, the light-skinned adoptive dad being richer than the bio dad, the lightskinned character being hostile and looking down on the darkskinned character, the overprotective asian parent, the adoptive dad assuming the bio dad abandoned the son. The reason for his bias isn’t inherently racist, but I get how it can be seen that way. Is there a way to make this work? Would it be better to scrap it?
Two problem areas stand out with this ask:
You seem confused with respect to how racial stereotypes are created, and what effect they have on society.
Your characterization of the Indian father suggests a lack of familiarity with many desi cultures as they pertain to family and child-rearing.
Racial Stereotypes are Specific
Your concern seems to stem from believing the absent father trope is applied to all dark-skinned individuals, when it’s really only applied to a subset of dark-skinned people for specific historical/ social/ political reasons. The reality is stereotypes are often targeted.
The “absent father” stereotype is often applied to Black fathers, particularly in countries where chattel slavery or colonialism meant that many Black fathers were separated from their children, often by force. The “absent black father” trope today serves to enforce anti-black notions of Black men as anti-social, neglectful of their responsibilities, not nurturing, etc. Please see the WWC tag #absent black father for further reading.
Now, it’s true many desis have dark skin. There are also Black desis. I would go as far as to say despite anti-black bias and colorism in many desi cultures, if one was asked to tell many non-Black desis from places like S. India and Sri Lanka apart from Black people from places like E. Africa, the rate of failure would be quite high. However, negative stereotypes for desi fathers are not the same as negative stereotypes for non-desi Black fathers, because racially, most Black people and desis are often not perceived as being part of the same racial group by other racial groups, particularly white majorities in Western countries. Negative stereotypes for desi fathers are often things like: uncaring, socially regressive/ conservative, sexist. They are more focused around narratives that portray these men as at odds with Western culture and Western norms of parenting.
Desi Parents are Not this Way
Secondly, the setup makes little sense given how actual desi families tend to operate when one or both parents are unable to be present for whatever reason. Children are often sent to be raised by grandparents, available relatives or boarding schools (Family resources permitting). Having children be raised by an outsider is a move of last resort. You make no mention of why your protagonist’s father didn’t choose such an option. The trope of many desi family networks being incredibly large is not unfounded. Why was extended family not an option?
These two points trouble me because you have told us you are writing a story involving relationship dynamics between characters of both different races and ethnicities. I’m worried you don’t know enough about the groups you are writing about, how they are perceived by each other and society at large in order to tell the story you want to tell.
As with many instances of writing with color, your problem is not an issue of scrap versus don’t scrap. It’s being cognizant of the current limits of your knowledge. How you address this knowledge deficit and its effect on your interpretation of your characters and the story overall will determine if readers from the portrayed groups find the story compelling.
- Marika.
I have one response: what? Where are the father’s parents? Any siblings? Is he cut off? Is he American? A Desi that has stayed in India?
Estrangement is not completely out of the question if the father is Westernized; goodness knows that I have personal experience with seeing estrangement. But you haven’t established any of that. What will you add?
