Jamie Wheal is the founder of the Flow Genome Project, a organization dedicated to the research and training of human performance, and most notably, he’s the author of Recapture the Rapture: Rethinking God, Sex and Death in a World That’s Lost its Mind. In his fascinating book, Wheal explores the perplexing intersection at which we find ourselves, each of us torn between the desire to save the world or to savor the world. “We as a generational cohort are coming of age where we simultaneously have more awareness of life...and at the same time understand our existential precariousness,” he says, “How on earth do we hold all this at the same time?” Our wide ranging discussion takes on the heady topics of healing, believing, and belonging 
and ends with Wheal sharing with us his ‘ten suggestions', a list of countermeasures to the fundamentalism, nihilism, and despair that threaten to swallow us whole. 

Episode Highlights


To save the world or to savor the world…3:09

Nihilism, suspicion and our meaning crisis…6:48

Reclaiming our authority, healthy tribalism, and the ten suggestions…30:40


More from Jamie Wheal
Recapture the Rapture: Rethinking God, Sex and Death in a World That's Lost Its Mind
Stealing Fire: How Silicon Valley, the Navy SEALs and Maverick Scientists Are Revolutionizing the Way We Live and Work
Jamie's Flow Genome Project - The Official Source for Peak Performance and Culture
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