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What I Talk About When I Talk About Running by Haruki Murakami
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I finally reach the end. Strangely, have no feeling of accomplishment. The only thing I feel is utter relief that I don’t have to runread this book anymore.

I started this book with two prejudices.

First, that the most tedious dinner party conversations typically start with your interlocutor telling you they are in training to run a marathon.

Secondly that an author’s work should stand alone from the author - I am with Elena Ferrante here - and that writers writing about themselves or even, perhaps particularly, their writing habits add nothing to their works. The rare exceptions tend to be authors who are a) extraordinary writers and b) whose write their autobiographies in the style of their novels (Gabriel Garcia Marquez. Thomas Bernhard).

This book did nothing to dispel either view.

Murakami is also no prose stylist, at least as rendered into English. In his novels this doesn’t entirely matter as his prosaic sentences are enlivened by his fantastic imagination, but writing non-fiction one loses that. Take away the talking vanishing cats, girls with pointy ears and the bottom of wells and there is little left.

So here for example when discussing his return to Cambridge (the lesser version) and the Charles River we are blessed with the insight that “I’d aged ten years, and there’d literally been a lot of water under the bridge.” Or that the profound thoughts he has while running include “on cold days I guess I think a little about how cold it is. And about the heat on hot days.”

There are a tiny handful of interesting nuggets in here about how Murakami became a novelist, perhaps just about enough to make a good New Yorker article, but it doesn’t make for a compelling book when one has to wade through running logs (why would anyone else care how many miles he ran in August 2005?! Or what time he did in the New York marathon?) to dig them out. And even with the nuggets it is more interesting to read the versions of his life as represented in his fiction (e.g. loner starts a jazz cafe) than here.

He may have been better writing a book about his bowel habits. More universal and of greater relevance to books (reading at least). And imagine if he had done so and we were greeted by comments such as - books are like bowel movements: sometimes one rushes out of you while others are only squeezed out with lots of time, effort and even pain. Genuinely that is the level of the 'running is like writing a book' insights we get here.

Tedious and not at all illuminating.
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Reading Progress

November 16, 2017 – Shelved
November 16, 2017 – Shelved as: to-read
November 21, 2017 – Started Reading
November 22, 2017 – Finished Reading
November 24, 2017 – Shelved as: 2017

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message 1: by Neil (new) - added it

Neil When I read this (on its release), I was indeed training for my third marathon. Consequently, I liked it!


message 2: by Paul (new) - rated it 1 star

Paul Fulcher It is almost as if he has set out to write a deliberately bad book. Genuinely did no one have the courage to say:

'Honestly, no one gives a monkeys how many miles you - or indeed anyone else - ran last week, or that you have got your 'Peebee' down to 3 hours 27 minutes and 43 seconds. I would have about as much interest if you told me about your bowel habits.'


message 3: by Neil (new) - added it

Neil Clearly you have never run a marathon. When I was doing that kind of thing, I read loads of books filled with exactly that kind of stuff. And I enjoyed them. You have to be a runner to know how obsessive you can get about it. Same as for many other things, I guess (golf? reading?). I agree it is probably a limited market, but people who like Murakami and running will like this.


message 4: by Paul (new) - rated it 1 star

Paul Fulcher Yes the issue I have with marathons, almost uniquely, it that is one of those things were people seem to think others are also obsessed with it. They even write books about it.

I don't think it would have occurred to him to have written a book about his bowel habits but it would have been as interesting and more universal. It also ties in better with reading.


message 5: by Sandie (new)

Sandie You guys are funny! As a personal trainer, with lots of runners as clients, they are the most obsessive group I know about their sport. Too many have run through injuries with permanent physical results just because they couldn’t listen to their bodies and take a break. I once had a long time marathon runner talk to a group that were participating in a city wide weight loss challenge. The idea was that it was important to find some kind of exercise that you loved in order to increase your commitment to being active. She proceeded to talk for an hour about her times in all the 50 marathons she had run which meant absolutely nothing to my overweight, out of shape group of people all looking to lose 50 to 80 pounds. They left bug eyed. As a biker, I always comment that the bikers are smiling and the runners look mostly miserable.


Robert I sincerely hope that you continue reading books that you don't like, your negative reviews are so entertaining


message 7: by Paul (new) - rated it 1 star

Paul Fulcher The Booker committee usually help ensure that


message 8: by Greg (new)

Greg Will run past this one at the library.


message 9: by Isobel (new)

Isobel I agree with Robert!


message 10: by Sylvie (new)

Sylvie Thank you so much for allowing me, in an entertaining way, to skip this one despite being a Murakami fan (I almost said, obsessive). BTW, he wrote an article in The Saturday Guardian maybe a year ago about running, and that was interesting, and mercifully, briefer than a whole book.


message 11: by Paul (last edited Nov 29, 2017 12:07PM) (new) - rated it 1 star

Paul Fulcher If you found that interesting you might find this one interesting - i couldn't imagine even a brief article from him on the topic being anything other than tedious to me, so don't take my taste as definitive.


message 12: by Sylvie (new)

Sylvie Aplogies - it was a review of his book, not an article. No, I have no wish to read a book about running.


message 13: by Jane (new) - rated it 1 star

Jane Upshall I agree. I wasted my time reading this one.


message 14: by Ewo2 (new) - added it

Ewo2 I enjoyed it, but if you aren't interested in the subject matter I can definitely understand why it didn't do much for you. For people who are neither fans of Murakami nor runners/athletes, I don't know if there would be much here to appeal to them. I enjoy Murakami's writing style enough that even his weaker books are worthwhile to me. I enjoy the experience of reading them and the mood they convey; I don't keep going back to them for the deepest of deep insights, but rather the feeling I get while I'm doing the reading itself.


Rogier van Zijderveld I agree with Robert too. Quit the book at page 100.


message 16: by Alwynne (new)

Alwynne I actually enjoyed this but I'm a runner - or a lapsed one at the moment - so found the details you disliked fascinating, I'm not a fan of his fiction though, although I don't hate it either.


message 17: by Paul (new) - rated it 1 star

Paul Fulcher I like his fiction which is why I read this (but I have now stopped reading his non-fiction). But I do - sorry! - find the assumption of runners that non-runners are interested in their running times baffling. As I conclude the review, a book on his bowel habits would be more universal and somewhat more insightful.


message 18: by Alwynne (new)

Alwynne Is it supposed to be universal? I found it in the 'running' section of a bookshop so associated it with other books about running. If it helps I only talk to other runners about running, although have made people sponsor the odd charity 10k!


message 19: by Paul (new) - rated it 1 star

Paul Fulcher Yes to be fair I assumed if Murakami's publishers were bringing a book out they would naturally want it to appeal to his fans. As a running manual it makes sense I guess. On my top 10 turkeys of the millennium though,


message 20: by Alwynne (new)

Alwynne That makes sense, I can see it being unappealing if you're not into running. As a running book it stands out although mostly because people who write about running are rarely decent prose stylists.


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