DC Vs Marvel Title Crossovers Article
DC Vs Marvel Title Crossovers Article
DC Vs Marvel Title Crossovers Article
https://foxhugh.com/2016/12/08/dc-vs-marvel-title-crossovers/
Introduction
This article arose out of a need to classify crossovers that involve more than one title on my hard disk
drive. I have my collection broken down by publisher, superhero and finally by title. Where do I put
the crossovers that occur in more than one title? I opted to create a separate folder and ended up
creating very exact criteria for deciding what to put in that folder after a great deal of thought which I
would like to share with the world. I would add that I am a bit of a classification nerd and maybe
should have become a librarian rather than an educator (Fox Presentation Taxonomy, Fox Martial
Arts Taxonomy, Divination Taxonomy).
The words event, crossover and story arc are often used interchangeably but not in this article.
Wikipedia has entries describing crossover events for both DC and Marvel comics. Story Arcs that
happen within a single title are totally excluded from this list. In the Silver Age, when I was young,
story arcs almost exclusively began and ended within a single title. The whole crossover title story arc
really got traction in the eighties with the Crisis of Infinite Earths and the success of this story arc in
selling a lot of comic books across a wide variety of titles. If I went to the sixties in a time machine my
knowledge of the future of comic book trends, how to create strategic card games, and the knowledge
of what stocks to buy is what would secure me my fortune in the past. I would take the money I made
from creating comic books and card games and buy all the right stocks! Even extended story arcs
within a single title was a way of telling stories that was pioneered within Marvel in the sixties and
not the Golden Age but DC belatedly followed suit.
Comic Book Reading Orders is another invaluable resources when trying to identify title crossovers
but does not include some of the title crossovers from the Marvel Silver Age crossovers that are
mentioned in Wikipedia including Sub-Mariner's Quest for Krang (1966), Daredevil-Doctor Doom
Swap (1968), Terrible Trio (1969), Mr. Kline War and Kree-Skrull War (1971). DC was definitely
slow to get on the title crossover bandwagon and only had one, yes one title crossover in the Silver
Age and this is Zatanna's Search which is not on the Comic Book Reading Orders list of what their
site calls events.
I used both the Comic Book Reading Orders site and Wikipedia as sources to make the ultimate DC
title crossover list and the ultimate Marvel title crossover lists. As I started creating and putting title
crossovers into the right folder, I couldnt help but read a lot of title crossovers. I actually tediously
made a lot of title crossovers folder by copying individual files and using the reading orders provided
in the Comic Book Reading Orders website. Yeah a real good use of time.
I ended up reading about sixty title crossovers over a three day period. I am not married and if I
continue down this road then I suspect that I will never be married. What did you do over the
weekend honey? Oh I read about sixty title crossovers! Yeah not the sort of sexy conversation that
helps a fan boy get a girlfriend. Anyway I had my Eureka moment and want to share this with fan
boys everywhere and if an attractive female likes the article feel free to contact me and share your
adulation. I have inductively come up with the following categories of crossovers including Family,
Families Meet, Odd Couple, Melee, Universe Tour and Universe.
Family crossovers are crossovers that happen within titles that involve the same characters or related
characters. Sometimes two or more families meet as families. The two families may clash as is the
case of the Avengers vs X-Men title crossover. Because the characters are all from the same family,
DC has a total of 61 family crossovers. Aquaman has two family crossovers and is tied for fifth place.
Batman has 26 family crossovers and takes first place in terms of the number of crossovers. In
Batman there tends to be an all hands on deck feel to most of these crossovers. This is portrayed in
the illustration from Battle for the Cowl #1 below. I personally like the Batman crossovers.
Flash has one crossover and is in last place. Green Lantern has six family crossovers and is in fourth
place. The Justice League has ten and is in third place. The Justice Society has two family crossovers
and is tied for fifth place. Superman has 14 family crossovers and is in second place after Batman.
The Superman crossovers are ok but finding challenges for Superman is difficult and finding
challenges for a bunch of Kryptonians such as Supergirl often becomes too much of a good thing.
Batman and Superman were the first superhero families in comic book history so this probably
accounts for why they dominate this type of story (Batman Family vs. Superman Family). I would
have to add that while Green Lantern is in fourth place, the sheer number of issues involved in the
six Green Lantern family crossovers might be very high and nudge Green Lantern to third place if
this criteria was used. DC Family crossovers really keep the crossover within the family! A Batman,
Superman or Green Lantern family crossover will not have even a single issue outside of their
respective families. Since I put titles into was is basically family folders, I choose to put the DC
Family crossovers in the family folder not the crossover folder.
Marvel Family Crossovers
Marvel has a total of 49 family crossovers. The Avengers family, Ghost Rider, and Marvel UK have
one crossover and tie for fourth place. The Hulk family has two crossovers and is in third place. Some
of the Hulk Family crossovers occur in titles that are not Hulk related so I choose to put the two Hulk
crossovers in the separate crossover folder. The Spider-Man family has 13 crossovers and is in
second place. The X-Men family has 30 crossovers and wins first place hands down. The X-Men
family crossovers often only involve X-Men titles and I put these in the X-Men folder rather than the
crossover folder.
DC Families Meet
DC only has eight Families Meet title crossovers which include Godhead (2014), Inhumans vs X-Men
(2016), Janus Directive (1989), Lightning Saga (2007), Millennium (1987), Red Daughter of
Krypton (2014), The Culling (2012), Throne of Atlantis (2013), Trinity (1993) and Worlds Collide
(1994).
Godhead only happens in the Green Lantern titles because the family they go up against is the New
Gods and right now they dont have any titles. Still this isnt a family crossover but the Lanterns
versus the New Gods. This is one of my favorite reads. The personalities of the New Gods are teased
out as they interact with the Lanterns in a way that Jack Kirby never did.
The Janus Directive is pretty much what would happen if two secret US government agencies
competed. The Janus Directive is more or less Checkmate versus Suicide Squad! The concept is good
but actually the series is not very good. The series came out in the Bronze Age and DC seemed to
have a harder time in that age than Marvel.
The Culling (2012) is the Legion of Superheroes meet the Teen Titans. Tons of action but zero
character development. What makes Families Meet crossovers work is that the writer allows for
The Avengers/Defenders War is an oldie but goodie. My favorite scene was when Doctor Strange, a
Defender takes on Praying Mantis, an Avenger.
Operation: Galactic Storm is the Avengers fight Kree superheroes with the Shi'ar in the mix as well.
The X-Men meet the Guardians of the Galaxy in the Trial of Jean Grey. The X-Men take on the Dark
Avengers in Utopia. My favorite crossover of this type is Curse of the Mutants. In this crossover, the
DC Melee Crossovers
The Joker has been more or less all powerful before his Emperor Joker stint (DC Special Series #27 Batman vs The Incredible Hulk).
Look when is DC going to make the Krypton, a super dog and Streaky, a super cat, miniseries?
Krypton and Streaky are marooned in a strange dimension and forced to work together to get home.
Countdown is the Punisher versus Bullseye and the repartee between the jocular Bullseye and the
somber Punisher makes this a good read. Punisher and Bullseye are characters minus superpowers
that rely on their skills with weapons and martial arts to get the job done.
Dead Man's Hand has several characters but mostly focuses on the relationship between the
Punisher and Daredevil. However, there is some really fun repartee between the Punisher and
Nomad. Again, there is a pairing of normal humans that rely on weapons and martial arts to get the
job done. The Kingpin is dead and everyone wants a share of the spoils so just about every street level
hero and bad guy makes an appearance (Nomad V2 #4).
For Love and Money has Luke Cage, the Terror and the Silver Sable competing for a mystical item.
Luke Cage, the Terror and Silver Sable are all for hire characters so they have this as a thematic
similarity.
conflicting advice just leads to the Beyonder having one major existential crisis!
Conclusion
DC has eight Families Meet crossovers. Marvel has 13 Families Meet crossovers. Marvel has more
Families Meet crossover than DC. My favorite Families Meet crossover is Curse of the Mutants and
this is a Marvel crossover.
DC has 61 Family title crossovers. Marvel has 49 Family title crossovers. DC has more Family title
crossovers than Marvel. DC also seems to excel in making quality Family crossovers and the Batman
ones are especially good. The endless run of X-Men Family crossovers has gotten stale and at this
point they all run together.
DC has 11 Melee crossovers. Marvel has 25 Melee crossovers. Marvel has over twice as many Melee
crossovers as DC. The DC Melee crossovers are pretty much universally forgettable slugfests. The
Marvel Melee crossovers generally have some sort of unifying theme which makes them more
interesting.
DC has three Odd Couple crossovers. Marvel has 14 Odd Couple crossovers. Marvel has almost four
times more Odd Couple crossovers than DC. DC goes to the trouble of making truly odd couples but
do a bad job getting the chemistry to work. Marvel doesnt try to match up heroes that are totally
different but brings together characters that have some sort of thematic similarity.
DC has nine Universe crossovers. Marvel has 16 Universe crossovers. Marvel is a clear winner in this
category. The DC ones keep messing with the same architectonic multiverse issue. The Marvel
Universe Infinity Saga crossovers are cosmic and entertaining but running out of steam. Marvel has
several Universe crossovers that are of the "what if" type. DC only has one "what if" crossover,
Flashpoint.
DC has four Universe Tour crossovers. Marvel has only one Universe Tour crossovers. DC has more
Universe Tour crossovers than Marvel. DC has a total of 98 title crossovers. Marvel has a total of 109
title crossovers.
Marvel has more title crossovers than DC. The numbers between the companies are pretty close. The
big exceptions are Family and Melee crossovers. DC has a lot more Family crossovers. Marvel has a
lot more Melee crossovers. Marvel overall seems to do a slightly better job when it comes to title
crossovers both quantitatively and qualitatively. Family crossovers have been done too many times
The readers is supposed to believe that the Kree Empire travels all the way from the Greater
Magellanic Cloud to the Andromeda Galaxy to have a war? Again, this shows a total