Language, Language Development and Reading

Fall 1987
Originally published in the Reading Instruction Journal of the New Jersey Reading
Association
Reprinted as "An interview with Noam Chomsky" in The Reading Teacher Vol. 48, No.
4, Dec 1994
Also appears in C.P. Otero, ed. Language and Politics (Black Rose, 1988)
Interviewed by Lillian R. Putnam, Professor Emeritus at Kean College in New Jersey

QUESTION: Dr. Chomsky, many classroom teachers are unfamiliar with your work,
because the study of linguistics is not required in their professional training. It would be
helpful and would arouse some interest in this field if you answered some of the
following questions. Your 1957 publication entitled Syntactic Structures presented a
completely new way of looking at language. What was it that started you on this
exploration?

CHOMSKY: One may be interested in language for many different reasons, and from
many different points of view. My own interest has been dominated by several central
questions: (1) What is it that we know, when we know a language? (2) How is this
knowledge acquired? (3) How is this knowledge put to use? (4) What is the physical
basis, in neural mechanisms, for the systems of knowledge and use of language? The
fourth question remains on the horizons of research. Let us keep, then, to the first three.

In the early 1950s, typical answers to these questions would have been something like
this: (1) A language is a certain system of habits and skills; to know a language is to have
mastered these skills. (2) Knowledge of language is acquired by such mechanisms as
conditioning, association, practice in exercising skills, etc. (3) Use of language is exercise
of the skills that have been mastered. Within psychology, the dominant assumptions were
structuralist. As a theoretical discipline, linguistics was devoted to devising principles of
analysis that could be used to provide an organized and systematic account of the
elements of a language, their relations, the orders in which they appear, the way they are
grouped into larger elements, and so on.

It seemed to me clear that these approaches were entirely inadequate, in fact, that the
entire conception was completely wrong. Normal use of language is not an exercise of
any habit or skill. Typically, use of language is creative, in the sense that it constantly
involves the production and interpretation of new forms, new in the experience of the
language user or even in the history of the language. This is not an exotic phenomenon,
but rather the norm. Thus readers of these sentences may not have seen any of them
before, or anything like them, yet they have no difficulty recognizing them as sentences
of their language and assigning them a specific meaning. They do this in the same way as
other speakers of [similar varieties of] English. If these sentences were modified in some
arbitrary way -- say, in reverse order -- they would be equally novel for the reader, but
they would be gibberish. It is easy to show that speakers of a language, even young
children, assign specific and precise meanings to very simple sentences that are entirely
new in their experience.

Consider, for example, the following sentences, to illustrate what is in fact the norm in
language use:

1. We expect to like each other.

2. John wonders who [we expect to like each other].

3. John is too clever to catch Bill.

4. John is too clever to expect anyone to catch Bill.

5. John is too clever to catch.

6. John is too clever to expect anyone to catch.

7. John is too clever to meet anyone who caught.

In case 1, we know that the sentence means, roughly, that each of us expects that we will
like the others of us. In case 2, the very same sentence is embedded in the context "John
wonders who--," yet we interpret it quite differently. The reciprocal phrase each other
does not relate to we, but rather to the more remote phrase who. The meaning is
something like: "John wonders which people are such that we expect that each of those
people will like the others of those people." In example 3, we understand that John is to
do the catching; in 4, John is to do the expecting. But in 5 and 6, which differ from 3 and
4 only by deletion of the final noun, the meaning is quite different: it is not John who is to
do the catching and expecting, but someone else, maybe us; John is the person to be
caught (to understand sentence 6 often takes a moment's reflection, whatever that means
exactly). Sentence 7 appears to be of the same complexity and roughly the same form as
6, but it is complete gibberish, unless we understand catch quite differently, as in "he
catches for the Yankees."

These are very short and simple sentences. We understand them in a precise and explicit
way, even though the may be novel in our experience, and unlike others that we have
learned (in fact, we typically have no idea what sentences we have heard, apart from
conventional greetings and the like). Children are not instructed to interpret these
sentences in the ways they do, nor are foreigners learning English. Examples such as
these do not appear in grammar books or teaching texts, and would only confuse people if
they did appear; in fact, the properties of these sentences were not even noticed until
recently. The sentences seem familiar, but that is not because we have come across others
resembling them. In fact, inspection of actual texts would show that such constructions
are quite rare.
Plainly, we cannot be carrying out these accomplishments by habit, and there is no mere
skill involved. Our inability to associate each other with we in 2 is not a lack of ability; it
is not that we haven't practiced enough, or that we are too weak, or that we should try
harder. Furthermore, such examples show that no notion of analogy or similarity will be
of any help at all in explaining the core properties of language. Thus the phrase given
within brackets in 2 is identical with 1, and thus is surely analogous to it in any
reasonable sense of analogy, but it is interpreted quite differently.

Such examples also show that the entire framework of behaviorist psychology is simply
irrelevant to normal linguistic behavior, though to demonstrate this point, much simpler
observations suffice, as they suffice to demonstrate the irrelevance of behaviorist doctrine
to behavior generally, apart from its most peripheral aspects.

Attention to the facts shows that the answers to the three questions posed must be entirely
different from those that were conventional at the time. Recognition of such facts as these
in various domains, and ideas as to how to account for them, led to the cognitive turn in
psychology in the mid-1950s, and to the development of generative grammar within
linguistics, one primary factor in this cognitive revolution, as it is sometimes called. It
seems that the right answers to the three questions are something like this: (1) to know a
language is to have mastered a system of rules and principles; (2) the child acquires this
knowledge on the basis of a very rich biological endowment that determines, quite
precisely, the kinds of systems that can develop in language growth; (3) use of language
is rule-governed behavior. At the heart of language, and much of human action and
thought, is a system of mental representations and computations. The goal of linguistics,
then, is to discover these systems, and more deeply, to discover the fixed, invariant
biological endowment that enables each child to develop a very rich and highly
articulated system of knowledge on the basis of quite fragmentary and limited evidence.

These ideas were by no means entirely novel. In fact, they recall a rich tradition that had
long been forgotten by the mid-1950s, and is still little known.

QUESTION: For those of us who are not linguists, how would you state the basic idea of
your generative transformational theory?

CHOMSKY: The basic idea is that knowledge of language involves a system of rules and
representations, of mental computation, linked to the motor and perceptual apparatus; and
that much of this system is fixed and invariant, just as the essential form and organization
of the human body is fixed and invariant, determined by our biological endowment. To
develop these ideas further would lead us to the principles that determine the form and
meaning of sentences. Phenomena such as those illustrated above are common to the
languages of the world, so far as we know. Notice that in all of these examples certain
elements are missing in the physical form, but understood. Thus in 1 and 2 the subject of
like is not expressed, but is understood; it is understood differently in the two cases. The
same is true in the other examples.
The principles of language determine where these missing elements must appear, and
how they must be understood. They are missing only in the sense that they are not
pronounced: the mind "sees" them and uses them in its mental computations, and they are
just as real as the elements John, we, etc., which happen to be linked to the vocal
apparatus in the system of mental computation.

Languages, of course, differ; English is not Japanese. But it seems that languages differ
only in their lexical choices and in selection of certain options that are not fully
determined by the fixed principles of our biological endowment. Thus in every language,
verbs take objects; but the object may follow the verb, as in English, or precede it, as in
Japanese. This option holds not only for verb phrases, but for all phrases. Thus English
has prepositions, while Japanese has postpositions. Japanese in many ways seems a
mirror image of English, and seems superficially to differ in many other respects as well.
But the systems are cast to the same mold.

The same is true of other languages, so far as we know, however different they may seem
superficially. Indeed, we know that this must be the case, or children would never be able
to learn any of these languages. A language can be acquired, in all of its richness and
complexity, because the child basically already "knows it," as part of its biological
endowment. The same is true much more broadly, in every domain of human
achievement.

QUESTION: You have written that a major contribution of the study of language is
understanding the character of mental processes, i.e., "Language is a mirror of the mind."
At the present point in your work, what important reflections are in this mirror?

CHOMSKY: The idea that language is a mirror of mind is a traditional one, which has
received expression in various ways over the centuries. I have never felt that this
metaphor should be taken too literally. Rather, it seems that language is one essential
component of the human mind. The human brain is the most complex and intricate
biological system we know. When we study its properties and manifestations, we are
studying what we call "mind." The human mind appears to consist of different systems,
each intricate and highly specialized, with interactions of a kind that are largely fixed by
our biological endowment; in these respects it is like all other known biological systems,
the physical organs of the body below the neck, for example. One of these systems is the
human language faculty. It is particularly interesting because it is a common property of
humans, with little if any variation apart from quite serious impairment, and it appears to
be unique to the human species; contrary to much mythology, other organisms appear to
lack even the most rudimentary features of the human language faculty, a fact that has
been shown quite dramatically in recent studies of apes. Thus human language appears to
be a true "species property," and one that enters in a central way into our thought and
understanding. But it is not, in my view, a mirror of mind; rather, an essential component
of the human mind, a crucial element of the human essence.

QUESTION: In Language and Mind (Chomsky, 1968), you wrote in essence that as
research in grammar continues, we may expect boundaries that seem clear today to shift
-- to a new basis for organization of grammar. Now [in 1987], which, if any, have
shifted?

CHOMSKY: There have been many changes in our conception of the nature of language
over the past 30 years. Early work in generative grammar, as in my Syntactic Structures
in 1957, was in some respects similar to traditional grammar. Specifically, it involved
rules that were specific to particular constructions and to particular languages. Thus the
rule for forming questions in English, or passives in English, was language-particular and
construction-particular, just as in a traditional grammar there will be a chapter on
passives, one on questions, and so on. The so-called rules of traditional grammars are
really only hints, understandable to an intelligent reader who already knows the language,
just as the rules in a teaching grammar presuppose that the learner already knows the
basic structure of language.

Generative grammar, in contrast, attempted to make explicit what is presupposed --

indeed, what was not even recognized to exist -- in traditional and pedagogic grammar.
But apart from this crucial distinction, the rule systems of early generative grammar had a
rather familiar look to them. More recent work has led to the conclusion that the rules of
traditional and early generative grammar are an artifact, not real elements of the
mind/brain. There appear to be no construction-particular rules, but rather very general
principles, such as the principles for interpreting missing elements, that are common to
all languages and all constructions. Languages differ in the manner indicated earlier, but
not by selection of different rules. There is thus, in recent work, a very radical departure
from the tradition of study of language over the past several thousand years.

QUESTION: Reading teachers are concerned with language acquisition since oral
language provides a basis for reading. In your writing, you state that at birth, children are
genetically programmed to acquire language and that it is innate. Is, then, the heavy
emphasis placed on language development by nursery schools and kindergartens
justified?

CHOMSKY: There is little doubt that the basic structure of language and the principles
that determine the form and interpretation of sentences in any human language are in
large part innate. But it does not follow that emphasis on language development is
misplaced. If a child is placed in an impoverished environment, innate abilities simply
will not develop, mature, and flourish. To take an extreme case, a child who wears a cast
on its legs for too long will never learn to walk, and a child deprived of appropriate
nutrition may undergo puberty only after a long delay, or never, though there is no doubt
that walking and sexual maturation are innately determined biological properties.
Similarly, a child brought up in an institution may have ample experience and nutrition,
but still may not develop normally, either physically or mentally, if normal human
interaction is lacking.

It is a traditional insight that teaching is not like filling a cup with water, but more like
enabling a flower to grow in its own way; but it will not grow and flourish without proper
care. Language development, like all human development, will be heavily determined by
the nature of the environment, and may be severely limited unless the environment is
appropriate. A stimulating environment is required to enable natural curiosity,
intelligence, and creativity to develop, and to enable our biological capacities to unfold.
The fact that the course of development is largely internally determined does not mean
that it will proceed without care, stimulation, and opportunity.

QUESTION: We realize that linguistics is the scientific study of language, and not a
recipe for language instruction. If teachers in primary grades were familiar with your
work, what kinds of changes or emphases might they make in reading instruction? What
general suggestions would help them?

CHOMSKY: I'm hesitant even to suggest an answer to this question. Practitioners have to
decide for themselves what is useful in the sciences, and what is not. As a linguist, I have
no particular qualifications or knowledge that enables or entitles me to prescribe methods
of language instruction. As a person, I have my own ideas on the topic, based on my own
experience (in part, as a teacher of language to children), introspection, and personal
judgment, but these should not be confused with some kind of professional expertise,
presented from on high. My own feeling, for what it is worth, is that at any level, from
nursery to graduate school, teaching is largely a matter of encouraging natural
development. The best "method" of teaching is to make it clear that the subject is worth
learning, and to allow the child's -- or adult's -- natural curiosity and interest in truth and
understanding to mature and develop. That is about 90% of the problem, if not more.
Methods of instruction may influence the residue.

QUESTION: Many of our early beliefs about the nature of language of disadvantaged
children have been disproven by research, for example, that Black English is deficient or
inferior; or that it fails to provide an adequate basis for abstract thinking. Speakers of
Black English want their children to learn Standard English. Is this best done by direct
instruction or by osmosis?

CHOMSKY: Anyone who was familiar with language took for granted, or should have
taken for granted, that so-called Black English is simply a language on a par with my
urban Philadelphia dialect of English, the English of High Table at Oxford, Japanese,
Greek, etc. If race, class, and other power relations were to change, Black English might
emerge as the standard language and what I speak would be regarded as defective. None
of this has anything to do with the nature of languages. The idea that Black English, or
my urban dialect, or any other language fails to provide an adequate basis for abstract
thinking is utterly implausible, and I think one should be extremely skeptical about
claims to the contrary. Typically, they are based on gross misunderstanding.

Questions nevertheless arise about what should be taught in the schools. If speakers of
Black English came to dominate and control American society, so that my speech would
be regarded as nonstandard and defective, then it might be argued that my children
should be taught the language of the dominant culture, Black English, not the particular
variety of English that I speak. The decision would not be based on characteristics of the
language, or on some ludicrous beliefs about how certain languages stand in the way of
abstract thought, but rather on other considerations. Thus one would have to ask whether
my children would suffer in the real world of power, authority, inequality, and coercion if
they were not to acquire relevant features of the dominant culture. Surely this
consideration would have to be given weight, if the welfare of my children were to be
taken into account.

On the other hand, if my children were to be instructed in what amounts to a foreign

language, their intellectual development might be inhibited; there is little doubt, for
example, that it would be harder for them to learn to read if the language of instruction
were Black English, which is not the language that they acquired in their preschool
environment. The same questions would arise if I had moved to Italy when my children
were young. Exactly how these factors should be balanced is not a simple question, and
there is no reason to believe that there is any uniform answer to them; too many factors
vary.

My own personal judgment, for what it is worth, is that speakers of a language that is not
that of groups that dominate some society should probably be taught in their own
languages at least at the very early stages, until basic skills are acquired, and should be
taught in the dominant language at later stages, so that they can enter the society without
suffering disadvantages that are rooted in the prevailing power, privilege, and
domination. One might hope to modify these features of the dominant society, but that is
another question. Children have to be helped to function in the world that exists, which
does not mean, of course, that they -- or others -- should not try to change it to a better
world.

I am not presuming to express any firm judgments or to offer general proposals. There
are a great many factors to consider, and the answers will surely not be the same for
every person or every circumstance. We have to do here not with problems of language,
but of the society at large, and they have to be confronted in these terms.