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    02/12/2021 18:10 Nastran Shell Element Orientation Question

    SIMCENTER > S I M C E N T E R - C A E S I M U L AT I O N

    ( / S / TO P I C / 0 TO 4 O 0 0 0 0 0 0 M I I 7 WAC / S I … ( / S / TO P I C / 0 TO 4 O 0 0 0 0 0 0 M I K 8 WAC …

    > SIMCENTER FEMAP

    ( / S / T O P I C / 0 T O 4 O 0 0 0 0 0 0 M I KC W A C / …

    VN1981 (/s/profile/0054O000007xlvpQAA) asked a question.

    15 de April de 2016 at 19:22 (/s/question/0D54O000061xm5QSAQ/nastran-shell-element-orientation-question)

    Nastran Shell Element Orientation Question

    This isn't exactly related to FEMAP, but a more general Nastran question.

    I thought I had nailed the understanding but I was watching a couple of Femap videos and now I am

    questioning my understanding.

    Wanted to get a clear picture on how Shell top, bottom, Face 1,2, Z1 & Z2 are represented with respect to

    Element Normal. The current understanding I have is as follows:

    Is the above accurate?

    Thx

    Simcenter Femap Femap

    (/s/topic/0TO4O000000MikcWAC/) (/s/topic/0TO4O000000MingWAC/)

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    Chip_Fricke (/s/profile/0054O000007xhdhQAA)

    6 years ago

    In your picture, you have the element normal reversed as Face 1 is the top face of Nastran shell

    element.

    I hope the snapshot below will help where the element cordinate system is shown as Red = X, Green

    = Y and Blue = Z. The black arrow indicates the element normal direction.

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    VN1981 (/s/profile/0054O000007xlvpQAA)

    6 years ago

    Thanks for replying.

    I did a simple surface meshed with plate elements, with one end of the surface fixed and a

    transverse load applied to the other end. Bascially subjected the plate to bending and verified the

    orientation of top, bottom, Z1, Z2 (for MSC users), Face 1 & Face 2.

    I am just posting the updated illustration of all of the above relative to Shell Normal Vector.

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    EndZ (/s/profile/0054O000007xltZQAQ)

    6 years ago

    Your diagram is now correct.

    FYI, Z1 and Z2 are also applicable to NX Nastran users. You can adjust Z1 and Z2 from the Nastran

    defaults ( Z1 = -T/2 and Z2 = +T/2) in Femap by editing the plate property and entering values for the

    Bottom Fibre (Z1) and the Top Fibre (Z2) to specify alternate stress recovery locations to the obvious

    defaults.

    To see the details, refer to the "PSHELL" (plate property) entry in the [NX or MSC] Nastran Quick

    Reference Guide mentioned by Chip.

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