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    1) The document provides a list of technical questions for ABB Sace to analyze issues with trip units. 2) It requests information about the circuit breaker, trip unit, electrical schemes, settings, environmental conditions, and test results to facilitate troubleshooting. 3) The questions aim to understand the specific application and rule out potential causes of nuisance tripping such as improper installation, external faults, or incorrect settings.

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    21.02.

    2007

    ABB Sace - Technical Questions for behaviour analysis of Trip Units

    We would like to inform you that any hypothetical ‘generic fault’ could be caused by very wide
    conditions as:
    - real fault on the plant
    - electrical and/or mechanical accessory problem
    - release’s problem
    - not properly operation
    - not properly setting
    - not properly external wiring
    - not correct choose of the electronic release for the application itself
    The completeness and accuracy of the information given to ABB Assistance Service will facilitate
    technical analysis of the problem encountered and will allow us to carry out all actions useful for the
    user rapidly.

    Section A
    These are a list of important information we need:
    1. Order acknowledge/item
    2. Serial number of the release (see on front label, e.g. F1244V01A)
    3. Serial number of the circuit breaker(see on left size of CB, e.g. AF03056799)
    4. Type of CB (e.g. E2N2000)
    5. N. of CB poles (3, 4)
    6. ‘In’ value
    7. Could you describe the application?
    8. Could we have the plant electrical schemes?
    9. Send us as much pictures as possible of CB/Trip Units involved in the analisys.
    10. Power plant nominal line voltage. Is it corrected set in the Trip Unit menù?
    11. Could we have the external connections to the Trip Units?
    12. Which type of load the CB is supplying?
    13. Is the Trip Unit self supplied? Or is it Auxiliary Supplied?
    14. Is it the first nuisance trip?
    15. How many other cases of fault, of similar installation, have you had?
    16. How long did the breaker work without any problem, from the first start-up?
    17. When did the fault happen? (e.g. start of a motor, normal load, adding an extra load, just after the
    closing operation…). Always in the same condition/situation?
    18. Is the fault easily reproducible? Is it systematic?

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    21.02.2007

    19. Has the CB been received from ABB Sace and installed as it was? Or was it modified by the Sales
    Company/Customer?
    20. Setting of the release (L, S, I and G thresholds and timings, freq., voltages, neutral section, etc. ……)
    21. Is the power plant frequency corrected set?
    22. Measure of the current just before the trip (if yes, how do you measure?)
    23. Which protection has tripped (L,S,I,G …., see front flag/led, last trip page on display or contacts
    changed on PR120/K, PR010/K, PR020/K, if present)?
    24. Status of led during normal trip unit working condition
    25. Which trip units modules are present?
    26. Have you tried to change CB and/or electronic release jet? With which result?
    27. Please consider that our electronic release calculate true rms current, considering fundamental and
    harmonics also (depending on the electronic release, up to 40th one).
    28. Ambient temperature
    29. Environmental conditions (gas, salt atmosphere, other?)
    30. Presence of Electromagnetic Disturbances (radiated or conducted)
    31. Did you auto test the unit? Did you test it by means of PR030/B? Which was the result?
    32. Have you a PR010/T to test the unit? Have you done it?
    33. With a PR010/T and/or SD.TestBus2, can you upload all the info from the Trip Unit and send them
    to ABB Sace?

    Section B
    These are a list of important questions to better understand the unit trip problem.
    1. Have you connected Zone Selectivity wiring?
    2. Have you enabled Zone Selectivity protection?
    3. In which position is TU reset S51 push button in the front of CB (mechanical indication of over
    current release trip), if present?
    4. Are you sure that Auxiliary Supply (24 Vdc) is isolated from earth as requested?
    5. Have you used proper cables for electronic connection (e.g.: serial bus)?
    6. Have you connected the shield of proper cables (eg. Serial bus connection) to earth?
    7. Using three poles CB, have you considered (if present) Neutral current?
    8. Does your application need to connect neutral external toroid?
    9. Are you sure that nuisance trip is not due to remote open command?
    10. Have you got Undervoltage release installed?
    11. Nuisance trip could be due to a voltage dip?
    12. Have you performed dielectric test disconnecting the electronic release as described in the front
    label?
    Thanks a lot for your cooperation.

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