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I feel sad because many people are pulling the heroes of Greek mythology under the concepts of "good" and "bad" Say you like Agamemnon and they'll look at you like you're crazy

I've been reading through Ovid's Heroides again and Phaedra's entire letter is really interesting to me (for many reasons), but this bit in particular I think about.

Phaedra has an animosity for Theseus here that is absent in Euripides' Hippolytus, but I think it's most surprising that one of her reasons is his slaying of Asterion/the minotaur. She calls him brother here and spites Theseus for killing him. I know Asterion is referred to this way in some other sources but it's really interesting to have it from Phaedra's own mouth, to have her claim him as her blood. Though we aren't necessarily meant to sympathize with her in the Heroides (her role is more overtly predatory in a way that's really interesting too).

Idk the Heroides has a lot of really interesting takes and ideas for a bunch of characters.

medea x helen is a stroke of genuine genuis! both are into drugs and poisons both have dated shitty dudes both are woman both know what its like to be a outsider in a land that hates them both have dead children both have 5 letters in their name

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I think their relationship with the divine is very interesting too, in that they are impacted by them in very similar ways. Both have their lives uprooted to serve as prizes or rewards for men favored by the gods. They are both taken from their homes, made to fall in love with a man and follow him to his homeland where they are treated with contempt. The horror of that is so apparent with medea especially I think.

Idk they are just very similar in a lot of ways thematically and yet so very different.

It's odd how helen and medea have such a vast and frankly insane history of random feats that tend to be ignored. Both really do just be like... adventuring. It feels like it gets forgotten. I don't know why this aspect of their characters get ignored compared to male heroes. If we are so commonly using the apotheosis of heracles why not helen.

Is it because of the blinding thing.

I mean probably sexism. Some real internal shit. Not even the modern retelling feminist books really cover this.

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