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Somewhere Out There On That Horizon

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Writing help master post

All of the posts I’ve made that are specific to helping writing the Outsiders and some general 1960s that could be useful elsewhere. Please use this information, that’s what it’s for! I’d be glad to know if you do too.

Not tagging my metas even if there’s good character stuff, as I’d be here a million years.

*will be regularly updated*

Brother porch talk fic 🗣️

Darry comes home late from work to find Pony waiting up for him. They talk in a way neither of them thought was possible with anyone but Soda. They consider what brother used to mean and how to be like that again.

At long last it’s finally done. Took me a real long time to get done, partly because Darry was entirely new for me to write. I was in his mind but not how he’d voice things, but I got it now.

Thank you to everyone who sat through my ramblings and many drafts of this 😭

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Been thinking about Cherry having a older brother, I think the line was pony wondering/projecting some of his own life onto her (about a older brother telling her to hurry with trash while she sees a sunset) but I’ve been thinking about if she had one.

He’s tall, light brown hair and he got all the freckles. He plays baseball, has a promising life — very all American boy™️

Think it’d be cute for him to be named Brandon and called “Brandy” as an occasional nickname since his little sister is Sherri.

Anonymous asked:

why you sleeping at the bus station? thought you were staying with merrill or did y'all fall out or somethin

y'know you could probably crash at the curtises, they never really lock their doors and i hear y'all ain't strangers or anything

anyway, whatcha wanna be when you're older? gonna do anythin' wild when you turn eighteen or nah

Nah, nah, we didn’t fall out or nothin’ man, but when he needs the room I gotta move for a few days. Y’know? Rooms filled. Hid all my shit…

Bus stations a good spot most of the time, being kinda indoors and everything. Cushy chairs too since most folks ain’t there too late to take them.

Yeah, I’ll see what’s up with them. Not going to break n’ enter or anything… Christ. Nah, I’ll see about them.

As for gettin’ older… I dunno man, I don’t think about it. Don’t think most guys like me do— even if the make it to the age. I know one thing though I don’t wanna be a bum, man. Like if I gotta con… I’ll do what I gotta do but I wanna be respectable…

Maybe ride full time or somethin’.

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Rb again just to remember this sideblog. He’s actually super fun to do and come up with stuff for fast.

Thinking of a gimmick besides “computer” that’d stand out more… how we feeling about a ghost blog? Maybe? Think it’d be fun at least as a au/storyline — already sewed a few seeds in there I think it’d be fun idk

Time period post: Easter

Going to try and get this one in time for the holiday! Like my other posts on holidays this is going to be a rundown of some base elements and traditions, of course families will have their own variations and it’d be fun to consider for the characters. (If they celebrate at all) similar to Valentine’s Day becoming much more of a ‘everyone’ holiday, Easter was experiencing more of a secularization. The Easter bunny really started to take off by the mid 50s and by the 60s him and Peter cottontail were mainstays.

Time period post: Valentine’s Day

Not on time for the holiday but useful for the future. Valentine’s Day is a long standing tradition that has typically been reserved for teenagers and adults, that a long with a lot of things changed with the onset of the boomer generation. Prosperity, ability and children were everywhere, change was constant and the structure of holidays was one of them. The changes have been a long time coming but a lot of typically “adult” party based holidays became more and more for all

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Sometimes I see things that are like “Ponyboy would NEVER make Soda feel shame for dropping out of school, he would be SO supportive and understanding” and I think we’re forgetting that Ponyboy canonically expresses embarrassment over Soda being a drop-out, and doesn’t want to talk about it with Cherry.

He might not intentionally try to shame Soda, but he himself feels shame over it, so you can bet Sodapop “understands everything” Curtis picks up on that.

Meta masterpost-

Collection of my major metas since I’ve started this blog, there’s a lot. There are smaller posts that are sharing realizations of thoughts that aren’t going to be linked in this because there’s just too many/repetative. However I do encourage you to search the #meta or #outsiders meta on my blog! There’s good smaller ones there or if I missed any.

This post will be added to the larger ‘writing help masterpost pinned on my blog.

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soda unironically uses groovy. now that to say as the resident 'vocab introducer' its only a matter of time before Steve says 'groovy' to somethin instead of 'bitchin' n gets so pissed off he needs to sit in the car n chill tf out.

Hey, I'm writing a fic, and you seem to be very knowledgeable with stuff like this. Do you think there were women who did manual labor jobs at all in the 60s? Like painting houses or yard work?

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Off the top of my head, I will say that there are blue collar women’s jobs that are a bit more physical but I don’t know the exact on positions like house painting and landscaping. Like for example factories — different factories or different departments but would still be doing a similar enough job.

Looking up working class - especially working class women in the 1960s is so frustrating because for some reason only stuff from Britain will pop up? London was the only place in existence for a whole decade apparently 💀

Seeking: Beta reader

Looking for someone to beta read my current fic and maybe some in the future. Am also looking for someone to help me edit, make suggestions and bounce ideas off of as well.

Someone who can help streamline and make suggestions and is good at writing action.

Realize my initial request was a little too much upfront, if there’s a more formal space to ask for this sort of thing I’m sorry.

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I have something to say about Soda, and y’all are not going to like it. But I have to speak my truth.

I absolutely love that as a fandom we’re starting to humanize him and recognize his character for more than just a comedic bystander. But sometimes it feels like the pendulum now swings too far in the other direction, and some of these takes have turned him into a completely different character.

Yes, Soda is more than just his sweetness. He’s got anger and recklessness and grief, too. But exploring and developing that hidden depth shouldn’t be at the expense of his compassion and good-nature, which are still fundamental parts of his character. The sweetness doesn’t stop existing just because he’s also capable of darkness. They can and should coexist: that’s the entire point of complexity.

I keep seeing posts that use Ponyboy’s unreliable narration to argue away Soda’s sweetness, and I’ll be honest, it irritates me. Ponyboy is misguided, but he’s not outright wrong about what he observes. Darry is hard and cold. Johnny is frightened and nervous. Dally is tough and mean. And Soda is reckless and compassionate. Ponyboy might miss the subtlety of motivation (Darry is harsh, but not because he hates his brother) but he’s truthful about what’s externally obvious.

And yes, Ponyboy idolizes Soda, but the cause of his hero worship is rooted in Soda’s kindness towards him. If Darry were more emotionally present, Ponyboy would likely idolize him, too. But Ponyboy’s hero worship doesn’t cause him to erase Soda’s flaws. In fact, he calls them out on multiple occasions—Soda’s recklessness, his academic failures, his inability to take anything seriously. Pony is even embarrassed by Soda when Cherry asks about him dropping out.

Similarly important to note is that Ponyboy isn't the only one who puts Soda on a golden pedestal. Darry is equally guilty of idealizing his brother, and it's because of the emotional labor Soda does for his family; not because Ponyboy has crafted a completely different version of his brother for the readers.

The fandom wants a complex Soda, and so do I. But complexity doesn’t equate darkness! His core traits don't need to be erased to prop up a version of the character that’s unrecognizably gritty and twisted. Soda is interesting because he’s kind. He’s interesting because he’s emotionally intelligent. He’s interesting because he listens. These things don’t make him perfect! They’re both his strength and his weakness.

Soda who lets himself be walked over. Soda who keeps the peace at the expense of voicing his honest opinion. Soda who hides pain with a manic glimmer in his eyes. Soda who holds it in until he can’t. Soda who explodes in grief or anger when pushed to his breaking point. Soda who can’t sit still. Soda who embraces his “stupidity” like a badge of honor to hide how much it hurts. Soda who nobody really knows, because he protects himself by focusing on others. Soda with a fear of abandonment. Glass child Sodapop. Beautiful and invisible. Slowly being killed by the pressure of a role he’s not strong enough to perform.

And yes, he's also angry. He's also reckless. He's also easily distracted and can't sit still and likes to fight. But good characterization happens when you explore these traits within the context of the other ones. The gentleness and roughness are not mutually exclusive; they can and should go hand in hand.

Instead of “oh I bet Ponyboy is lying, Soda probably yells at him all the time,” consider: what in Soda’s life would be hurtful enough to push him to yell at Ponyboy? Instead of “Ponyboy’s naive, I bet Soda drinks like crazy,” consider: what deeper motivation might keep Soda from drinking?

That's complexity.

Of course everyone has a right to interpret the character differently. And I'm not arguing against headcanons and aus—I just wish we could recognize them as headcanons, instead of trying to twist canon into supporting our own personal characterization. The dark takes are certainly interesting, and fun to toss around. But please, don't discredit the rich depth of his canon characterization as "not gritty enough;" Soda doesn't have to drink, scream, or be Dally to be interesting.

Make him go feral, please—but consider doing it in a way that makes sense for his character, and expands on who he is, instead of erasing it.

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