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locallibrarylover-deactivated20

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Anonymous asked:

I have a question, and i mean this neutrally. When a gfm says it is โ€œverifiedโ€ and the verification is (as it often is) simply a blogger reblogging the post with no info, how are we meant to understand the gfm was verified? the handful of palestinian bloggers on here that verify gfm cant exactly spend so many hours for every campaign to make absolutely sure its legit. I mean they are human and most likely in troubled conditions themselves (or have family in difficulty). So we cant expect this vetting to be that thorough. How are we meant to know they didnt just rb the post without checking, or fall for the scam themself?

the palestinian and arabic speaking bloggers who have been verifying campaigns have been giving info on how they verify, mostly i think through messaging people in arabic and asking them stuff but i dont know for sure. i know that some arabic speaking bloggers on here have said that they dont want to post publicly in detail how they verify people because scammers will see and figure out how to look more legit. there also is a specific palestinian dialect of arabic that people who arent actually palestinian will most likely not speak.

please refer to things like the vetted fundraiser list or other fundraisers on @/el-shab-hussein @/nabulsi @/sar-soor blogs as i think those are some of the most authoritative bloggers on here for this. if something is verified by multiple people its likely its real.

i dont really know what else you want people to do. i understand your concern but your skepticism is just based on your belief that the people verifying this are too busy to really look into it. you also can look into peoples accounts yourself you know. reverse image search their photos, look up their name to see if they have other social media. a lot of people might have instagram or facebook but only recently made a tumblr. just use some critical thinking and information literacy for gods sake instead of immediately being suspicious of everyone to the point where you are accusing random people of being scammers just because they dont know how this site works. or on the opposite end, reblogging things like insulin paypal campaigns which are the most common scam on here. just think and use context clues pleaseeeeeeee. because accusing someone of being a scammer without evidence and spreading that information could actually have life or death outcome. i just dont answer asks that seem ambiguous and arent verified, i think thats better than potentially hurting a real person asking for donations by publicly calling them a scammer or reporting their blog

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@killy thanks for adding this. like the vetting process may not be perfect but i wish people would at least be aware of these things before accusing people of being scams. and as i said, if you really cant tell just dont donate

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killy-deactivated20241228

Itโ€™s definitely not foolproof, but here are some things I know that users who vet campaigns, and campaign facilitators, are going through:

-talking to the recipient in Palestinian Arabic (I no longer vet campaigns personally because I donโ€™t read/write Arabic well, though I have people around me who do). Voice calls and texts can be done via WhatsApp or Signal, meaning that country codes are also visible to the people doing the vetting. For the campaign pinned to my blog, for example, there was a voice call conducted in Palestinian dialect because Nour didnโ€™t speak a lot of English and I canโ€™t read/write a lot of Palestinian Arabic

-ID document checking: Nabulsi and el-shab-Hussein have mentioned this directly. When I ran the fundraiser for Ahmed @/90-ghost, he has to send GFMโ€™s compliance team pictures of his ID and that of his entire family accompanying him. They froze the funds until they had this and other information. It was a whole thing I posted about for a while.

-financial details: for Ahmedโ€™s GFM, I had to explain to their compliance staff, in detail, how I planned to get the money from me to him. Anything that wasnโ€™t clear in the campaign itself was clarified to GFMโ€™s compliance team. To do the transfer, I had to get Ahmedโ€™s Bank of Palestine account details, his address, etc. And GFM doesnโ€™t allow you to transfer directly from the GFM to a Palestinian bank. Thatโ€™s why Palestinians need to find facilitators in other countries; those who donโ€™t have family or friends living in eligible countries have to trust strangers. For Leenaโ€™s GFM (Leena is someone whose GFM Ahmed and I have posted), she made it in a state of panic and decided to act first, think through the details later, and set her location in the EU. I had to find someone in the EU to help.

So, no, vetting by Palestinian bloggers isnโ€™t foolproof, but for someone to fool someone like el-shab-hussein, nabulsi, sar-soor, or 90-ghost AND the GFM compliance team, theyโ€™d have to be able to speak convincing Palestinian Arabic, present Palestinian ID documents, and convince GFMโ€™s team that thereโ€™s a viable plan in place, both for the financial transfer and the travel. Itโ€™s really not an easy scam to pull off. Not impossible, sure. But thereโ€™s a lot more going into this than certain people on here would think.

I also want to add a few things which is that @/sar-sour doesn't vet fundraisers, and I also don't work with Ahmed @/90-ghost for vetting. I just worked with @/nabulsi for vetting.

It was also always nerve-racking to see that as soon as one of us reblogs something that people take it to mean it is verified, we never stated that was the case. If it's on our list it means we've vetted it, if it was posted by us it was vetted. I had to stop reblogging things unless I was 100% certain me or nabulsi had verified it because then people would take it as an endorsement from me which was never the case.

Killy is right in the above, we used to not just ask for photos of their IDs but also photo proof of their current presence in Ghazzah, and we tried to keep tabs on them regularly, medical papers and stuff, even birth certificates if we weren't sure. It felt wrong and imposing to do all this and yet I felt we had no choice because there were many scammers and many actual people and no one was able to distinguish them at first glance.

We have stopped doing this verification over tumblr due to security concerns, as we don't think our communications are actually secure and people can intercept the information and share it with IOF. This is why my vetting is paused and has now been outsourced to a contact in Ghazzah who we have previously verified and who sends me even more proof than I could ever comfortably ask for, including so much as recordings of his conversations with the individuals I'm posting for.

So to the anon, I did take hours of my day - everyday - to verify each fundraiser I put up on my blog, and then so did nabulsi when she joined me. Believe me or don't, I actually did put in that extreme effort and it slowly sapped my lifeforce until my heart started clogging from stress-induced blood clots.

To be clear, I don't want anyone to be vetting fundraisers over tumblr, but especially not foreigners who are not Palestinian. Do not try to vet fundraisers on your own. I always worried about people harassing Palestinians for their IDs and banking info and specific location family and medical history etc... which is why I have never revealed my exact process but after this whole thing I don't think I have the choice. If one of us made a mistake with 1 of the fundraisers - whose listing we've changed to reflect our current knowledge - that does not mean we are just posting things willy nilly without checking. This is an unbelievable amount of work to do that has cost me irreparable damage to my health because I did so much of it for such a long-sustained period. I wouldn't wish this experience I've had on anyone. Numerous of my friends have tapped out of tumblr because they couldn't handle a fraction of the demand for help that I've been getting, because they wanted to help me and were overwhelmed so quickly. I feel bad because it feels like they got driven off of tumblr for me. I don't know. This whole thing is so disappointing and frustrating and none of the people accusing me have so much as rethought any of their accusations.

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vintagegf-deactivated20151128

u know those mutuals who you are like silent buddiesย with and you never talk to each other but you reblog each others stuff and when you see them on youโ€™re dash youโ€™re like yooooo thats my bud!!ย 

stringbags or 'bilum' in arara village, collingwood bay in oro province, papua new guinea. the bilum is one of the most culturally significant objects in papua new guinea. photos taken by a. hermkens between 2001-2004

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