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the leadership mantle among the yellowjackets going from jackie to tai to lottie to nat to shauna is very interesting and should be talked about more

the things that they were able to provide as leaders differs vastly from girl to girl and was based on what the team needed each time

1. at home, they needed jackie’s influence, her people skills, and her uplifting qualities. she was picked out for this role.

2. in the first few months after crashing, they needed tai’s natural leadership, maturity and drive. she filled this role very naturally, without even being asked to.

3. after the failed expedition and laura lee’s death, they needed the faith and hope only lottie provided. this was pure accident, like lottie said, she never wanted to be a leader.

4. after doing the awful thing they did to javi, they needed someone with nat’s lasting goodness/humanity. she was also picked out, chosen and then accepted by (most of) the girls.

5. as things just get harder and more brutal, it was only natural for someone with shauna’s wrath and ruthlessness to dethrone natalie. this was a forced change (even if lottie picked her).

just some food for thought

although i know that thomas being close to chuck, newt, alby, and minho before the maze was technically a retcon, the fever code (especially when read right before tmr) still adds so much to the reading experience.

like, thomas arrives in the maze and looks at the crowd around him and the people he notices and describes first are those four. his entire life was gone, he was a blank slate, but his subconscious mind still sought out those he knew and loved before, the ones he considered family?????!!!!?? somehow, beyond the swipe and the fresh start, he saw them surrounded by 50 other boys and picked them out. it breaks my heart

as we see young taishauna's journey continue to unfold, it only grows more tragic.

shauna is at her absolute lowest. she processes grief through rage and just wants to blame anyone else for her loss. and here we see her developing only her 3rd close relationship with anyone out there - melissa.

the first was jackie. someone who, to her, symbolised all of her repressed guilt, longing, desire, shame, jealousy, and more. an unhealthy relationship. shauna had so much love for jackie, so much respect and reverance, but she also felt like jackie overshadowed her, held her down.

and third is melissa, who does the opposite. she's being shauna's absolute lapdog, for lack of a better term, and shauna doesn't respect her. melissa is backing and encouraging and pushing every unhealthy desire and feeling shauna has. making shauna feel like she's finally on top, finally powerful.

tai, the second close relationship shauna found, continues to be the ONLY person who's ever been healthy for her. tai grounded shauna. she showed her love and companionship and support and safety. and protected her and let shauna protect her back. they genuinely loved each other. they were a family. but, like so many parents do after the loss of a child, they fell apart. and while they may still trust each other, still see eye to eye, still back each other up, it can never be the same again. it can never be as pure and loving as it was, because shauna has no love left to give.

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It actually means so much to me that Taissa and Shauna are both canonically wlw and have the closest, most uncomplicated relationship in the show so far.

Like what do you mean those are two queer girls who are each other’s ride or die? What do you mean they basically had a child together because of how involved Tai was and then lost it and thus lost their opportunity to be the parents they could’ve been? Even in the adult timeline when other friendships and relationships are strained, they fall into rhythm with one another and understand each other intimately. They’re stuck living the wrong life. They have spouses they don’t want, children they don’t truly want, because family’s been ruined for them. It was ruined by two tragic girls they can no longer have, and they ruined it for each other because they had a baby. Once upon a time they had a baby who was everything. While that baby was in Shauna’s womb, they had a family.

Throughout everything in every season so far, they’ve had each other’s backs. And the fact that they’re both wlw. The fact that their understanding extends to that. That they have such a deep bond not based on this, but strengthened by it. Like legitimately the love and understanding forged between them over the course of both timelines and between is incomprehensible to me

Anyway I think we as a fandom just need to be more insane about them in any and every context

one disparity that always stood out to be between teen shauna and adult shauna is how cold she became.

in s1, teen shauna was so warm and earnest, so nurturing and kind and caring. we already knew she had the ability to hurt people (jackie) but that was based on built up resentment, with literally anyone else, she had so much love and kindness to share. and with adult shauna, that seemed completely just… gone. she’s been so cynical, calculating, and cold from the start. she didn’t show any warmth even towards her husband or daughter.

finally that gap is being bridged. it makes complete sense now why she’s like that. s3 teen shauna is now closer to adult shauna than she’s ever been before, just in terms of how she reacts to things, her seeming lack of any close or trusting relationships with anyone.

and i know they already went into this in season 2, with adult shauna reflecting on her broken relationship with callie, and the implications of shauna’s lasting guilt over javi too. but to really see it manifest on screen through teen shauna is so satisfying.

i legitimately feel insane when i think about taissa's journey with motherhood. tai trying to help shauna carry out her abortion, and getting on her knees to feel the baby move, and holding shauna's hand through the whole birth and then having to be the one to tell her they lost him, and grieve the baby herself, in private, but still keep it together in front of everyone else.

tai wanted to be a mother so badly. and when she finally got the chance years later, the wilderness and the side of her that she can't control took it away from her again.

i’m gonna further ramble about taishauna’s relationship:

shauna trusts and relies on tai more than she ever did with jackie, her best friend of years. in season two, shauna looks automatically to tai or calls out to her when she’s scared or wants someone to defend her. tai literally becomes her number one person.

and shauna absolutely was one of tai’s priorities in the early season two as well, there are multiple scenes of tai thinking of shauna even while she’s with van. no there wasn’t any romantic entanglement, but tai was quite literally gearing up to be the baby’s parent. she was thinking about and worrying about shauna above all else.

i also saw someone say that she joined lottie’s circles in solidarity with van, but genuinely, desperately prayed to the wilderness when fearing for shauna’s life. the significance of that can’t be understated.

and after the birth, they hardly had any scenes together. they quite literally paralleled grieving parents whose relationship fell apart after a loss. and further, tai had her own moment of grieving the baby, private except for van to see, even though she kept trying to keep it together in front of shauna.

their relationship is my favorite in the show for a number of reasons, but one of them is how genuinely pure it is. tai’s love for shauna and the baby showed the audience a lot about her truly good, nurturing nature, and the way she cares so much about people and is so motivated by love. and this is important, because people are quick to mischaracterize tai as cold, ruthless, and blinded by ambition.

although it was very shauna focused in season two for obvious reasons, this is also reciprocated. their relationship is so based in mutual love and care for each other, as we see shauna protecting and promising to look after tai as well. it’s such a lovely contrast to jackie and shauna, whose relationship was all about obsession and jealousy.

tldr they mean the world to me and i need more of them in season three, in both timelines.

taishauna were on this journey together and are bound by it in the future timeline.

tai found out about the pregnancy first and was trusted with the secret. tried to help/accompany her through an abortion attempt. touched her belly and got on her literal knees to feel the baby kick. and she was the only person who stayed right next to shauna the whole time and held her hand while she was in labor. and the saddest part ultimately is that she had to be the one to tell her the baby died and who held her and felt that grief with her.

it's almost like they both lost their firstborn and were ever quite able to be the parents, the mothers they SHOULD'VE been when they were actually adults.

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i tried to give them grace even though i have always been a devoted lesbian kiara believer and wanted more development for sarah/kie but that ship is really giving nothing this season. we don’t know anything about their relationship as a couple, we don’t know what they talk about, how they spend time together, why they like each other, etc.

to contrast them, popecleo *in my opinion* gave us some of this even in just the first couple episodes with the crumbs they got, because you can tell both actors are willing to improvise and put some work into it and their chemistry is also great so they feel like real people in a relationship together. whereas jj and kie just kinda… go flat when they have scenes together? like there is absolutely nothing to them outside of what is scripted?

and if i tried to look past my bias because they undid all my headcanons [:(] i genuinely think that the two of them HAD chemistry back when jjkie’s relationship was only meant to be platonic. but all the banter and fun that they brought to the screen has literally vanished and i fear that you can tell their hearts aren’t in it

rating the changes between tmr book and movie

anyone who read the books first knows that the movie trilogy ended up telling a completely different story. i've been a big fan of the books forever so i thought i'd rate the significant changes made in the first one since it's generally the same plot. scale is 0-5 with 5 being good change.

  • the gladers initially not remembering their names: 3/5. maybe it was done to raise the stakes and make it more disorienting.
  • there are no real buildings in the glade: 1/5. this implies they had to start completely from scratch when they first arrived, which makes the maze seem like a test of survival rather than willpower and psychology.
  • leading on from that... the maze is actually outdoors: 0/5. you're telling me they had rain and lots of greenery in an outdoor structure in a desert climate? and the gladers had no real shelter provided? it also makes the test of their determination less powerful, because in the books, the maze was an indoor structure. the fact that they could technically climb the walls and see the outside world in the movies removes some of hopelessness and frustration for me.
  • ben is a runner: 4/5. makes sense! especially since we never learned how he got stung as a builder in the books.
  • the gladers are allowed to have a bit of fun: 5/5. i love the bonfire scene. i think it's a realistic change that a bunch of teenage boys would want to let loose every now and then.
  • they were there 3 years instead of 2: 4/5. i mean, sure.
  • no one has ever seen a griever before and survived: 0/5. makes no sense at all because the gladers are aware of the changing as a process! if no one has ever survived encountering a griever, where did they get this precedent from? how did they recognise that ben was stung? perhaps this info was just newt being dramatic since it comes from his dialogue.
  • they don't have grief serum until teresa arrives: 1/5. again, doesn't make sense. the changing being a process they're familiar with which brings back memories after they get the serum is entirely destroyed in the movie. this is the catalyst for a lot of the events in the book and it loses all its function.
  • several of the characters are different in personality: varies. thomas is more typically 'cool' in the movie and less curious and, to put it bluntly, less annoying. i don't like this change much, his constant curiosity and eagerness to learn and discover was a huge part of who he was in the books (if you know mbti, all i have to say is he was an INTP in the books and an ISTP in the movies). then we have minho, who was way less brash, hot headed, and reckless in the movies (he was also made into an ISTP while he was an ESTP in the books). i think alby is a bit different. i like both portrayals of alby, but i think he seemed nicer and more chill in the movie, probably just because the actor was very charismatic. this works because he can easily be charismatic as a leader. but him also being a stressed out kid with too much responsibility in the books, leading to him lashing out more and being less calm and collected, makes sense! gally is a bit nicer, actually rational at times, in the movie. he's also not, like, pathetic and embarrassingly petty. these are all traits in the book which emphasise the fact that he's a scared kid, so this also isn't my favorite change ever.
  • thomas gets memories back in his dreams: 1/5. unnecessary and completely removes the high stakes of him having no recollection of his involvement with WICKED.
  • minho doesn't find a dead griever: 3/5. at least they still accounted for why alby had to go into the maze. i still wish they did it.
  • alby was alone in the glade for a whole month: 1/5. it is not logical that someone would be able to run a whole farm and build shelter all alone at 15 years old without any help. it also doesn't make sense that he wouldn't have gotten killed in the maze on accident.
  • teresa doesn't come up one day after thomas: 2/5. i guess it doesn't really matter, but this is just one element of the timeline being quite different that wasn't necessary to change.
  • minho helps thomas save alby in the maze: 0/5. this is thomas's first big act of heroism and the thing that makes minho respect him. they should've kept thomas doing it alone.
  • the grievers are completely different: 2/5. i understand that this is probably a design issue for the movie, but the book concept of the grievers is better.
  • the maze is completely different: 1/5. i don't like the movie maze... why is it a circle. the idea of the 8 square sections that are repeating and consistent makes the maze so much more frustrating and bewildering! also that part in the movie where the walls start to fall and the floors come up... why. there's also no code hidden in the walls, which was a very cool element.
  • no cliff/griever hole: 2/5. not terrible because this would be hard to show on screen. but the fact that instead, in the movie, there is just a visible section that the runners never found before is a bit unrealistic.
  • gally never went through the changing: 0/5. gally's hatred for thomas in the movie is baseless, while in the book it's clearly about suspicion and fear. he's an understandable antagonist in the book.
  • thomas and teresa don't have telepathy: 3/5. would've been hard to portray on screen. takes away from the depth of their connection, however.
  • the gladers give up too easily: 0/5. this one bothers me! when all the other runners in the movie randomly quit their jobs. the whole point in the books is that they'd never do that.
  • thomas is looked to as a leader: 0/5. when he starts giving orders in the movie and leads the charge into the maze.... ughhh. again i think they tried to make him a more cool and admirable protagonist, but i think a big part of the books is that thomas never saw himself as particularly special, or a leader. he couldn't have done anything he did without minho's, newt's, alby's, teresa's etc skill, authority, support. they were a team and a family. instead, in the movie, they start to follow him without question when he was barely there five days.
  • the grievers don't only kill 1 glader per night: 2/5. adds tension but also takes away from the fact that the maze again wasn't a test of survival.
  • alby's and chuck's deaths were essentially swapped: 0/5. i really dislike this change. they took away the fact that alby's fear changed him, and that his last act was both selfless and scared. in the movie he just died on accident. then i think chuck actually chose to sacrifice himself in the movie, when in the books he was forced to as a variable by WICKED. this absolutely takes away from the utter pointlessness of chuck's death, and it's also ooc for a scared 12 year old to choose to die when he so badly wanted to escape.
  • thomas had no real reason to sting himself: 0/5. he already had memories coming back in dreams and they already believed they had found an escape in the maze. he literally had no reason to go through the changing in the movie and it's a bit overdramatic for no reason.
  • people take gally seriously as a leader: 2/5. this only happened because alby got killed off early in the movie.
  • this is one of my least favorite changes so i saved it for last. nalby erasure: 0/5. the movies definitely take away that alby was newt's best friend and the person he cared for and protected most. likewise, in the books, thomas's favorite and most prioritised glader (along with teresa) was actually always minho. although thominho wasn't erased as much in the movies, the fact that those two pairings were the strongest bonds we ever got between the boys in the books isn't really there in the movies. i think the movies allowed people to forget that newt being canonly gay actually means alby is his most likely love interest!
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