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Just a random brazilian nerd using Tumblr. Why a second one ? Who knows..?
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keleficent-deactivated20220714

I was thinking about why Rose Quartz/Pink Diamond is so hated.

The obvious answer is because of the horrible things she did.

But the other diamonds did horrible things tooโ€ฆworse things even.

Pink abandoned Spinel, which is wrong, but Spinel was planning to kill every living thing on Earth to spite the son of a person who was no longer even alive. Yet, no one talks about what a monster Spinel is.

So many Steven Universe characters have hurt people, but we forgive them and are happy to see them redeemed.

So why not Rose?

Then, it hit me: because Roseโ€™s redemption arc is told to us in reverse.

The first time we see Rose is toward the end of her life when she is pregnant with Steven. We see her appreciation for life and how full of love she is for Greg and her future child. Sheโ€™s willingly sacrificing herself to bring a new life into the world.

But then, we start learning who Rose used to be, all her mistakes, all the people she hurt.

The loving mother in Stevenโ€™s video becomes a distant memory.

For those of you who hate Rose, imagine her backstory unfolded a little differently for us.

Weโ€™re introduced to Pink Diamond: sheโ€™s spoiled, bratty, immature, irresponsible, and inconsiderate.

She throws temper tantrums when she doesnโ€™t get her way.

Not exactly an endearing character, right?

But one day, her tantrum injure Pink Pearl, her best friend. From that day on, she keeps everything to herself. Now we see her dealing with a consequence of her bad behavior.

Then we see how sheโ€™s abused by the other diamonds. We start to sympathize with her.

We see her try to save Earth. We see her trying to do the right thing for once.

But it backfires horribly.

She spends the rest of her life trying to fix it, but she canโ€™t.

She meets Greg. Here is where Rose has the most emotional growth as a character. She learns what is truly means to be a โ€œreal person.โ€

Finally, she grows such an appreciation for human life, that she decides to sacrifice her form to bring her son into the world.

The reason Rose is so much more controversial than other characters who have done problematic things is because her story is told in reverse, her redemption comes across as a fall from grace.

But there are plenty of characters who have a fall from grace who are still not as controversial as Rose. The reason why many people are less sympathetic to Rose is because we never see how Rose reacts to her mistakes. We never get much insight into how Rose feels about herself and the things sheโ€™s done. We get small hints:

For everyone who hates Rose, I get why. But I think we need to remember who she became instead of who she was.

I feel like to older fans her arc feels like a betrayal, she was supposed to something for Steven to look up to and aspire to be, and that could never do anything wrong because she was put on such a pedestal where if you implied she was anything other then kind or loving or perfect was blasphemous. ๏ฟผ๏ฟผ

But sheโ€™s a person, people make mistakes, they get hurt and they lash out.

But sheโ€™s a person,

people make mistakes, they get

hurt and they lash out.

Beep boop! I look for accidental haiku posts. Sometimes I mess up.

Forgive me for the essay but also I think a key part of the hatred is because Steven Universe does something not a lot of storiesโ€“and especially not a lot of stories for childrenโ€“are willing to do; they treat Roseโ€™s death as truly final.

In a lot of stories the dead are never really shown as being truly gone. Which I understand, most humans are kinda hard-wired into believing that the dead are still with us in one way or another, we donโ€™t cope well with the idea that someone can just stop, but that means that not a lot of writers are willing to actually engage with death as something final in their narratives. Not to paraphrase wiser people than I, but Geoff Thew of Motherโ€™s Basement pointed out in one of his critiques of SAO that killing a character is interesting and tricky because it means they are no longer a force that can effect the narrative. Whatever arc they were having is cut short, their relationships cannot progress in a way that isnโ€™t one-sided, they are stuck as who they were when they died and no longer have agency. They are stagnate, frozen in time, unchanging as everything and everyone else changes without them.

So a lot of stories will confirm that the character is โ€œstill thereโ€ in some way. They will come visit another character in a dream or as a ghost to offer comfort and advice, or it will be hinted/confirmed that they are doing things behind the scenes like protecting living loves ones, theyโ€™re still around, just not in the same way the living characters are. And while that can be sweet and wonderful and some stories deploy it in truly masterful ways that make me weep so hard I canโ€™t breathe and live rent free in my head foreverโ€ฆitโ€™s also a bit of a cop-out imo. You donโ€™t have to contend with the massive narrative shift that is having an entire character just stop, you just slide them into a passive state where they can keep going in their own way thatโ€™s separate but still present.

Steven Universe does not take that cop-out. Rose is dead. Sheโ€™s gone, they DRIVE that home time and time again. Everything that was Rose became Steven, and that might mean that sheโ€™s essentially reincarnated or whatever, but for all intents and purposes Rose as she was is 100% gone forever and will never be coming back.

That on itโ€™s own is interesting, but then SU does something even smarter; it sets Rose up as the perfect embodiment of all things good and pure and then spends the rest of the show meticulously tearing her back down. We see ALL of Roseโ€™s mistakes come to light, every unkind and messy and hurtful and awful thing sheโ€™s done is dragged out in front of our very eyes and ROSE IS NOT THERE TO FIX ANY OF IT. We donโ€™t even get her BEING there to remind us that she was a flawed person with unfathomable power in a horrible situation with no good options trying her hardest to do as much good as she possibly could under the circumstances. All we see now is Roseโ€™s problems. Her flaws. The mistakes she made. And sheโ€™s not there to help us pick up the pieces.

Rose probably would apologize to Bismuth and Spinel and Pearl and everyone she ever hurt if she could, we can tell when she was alive she was absolutely drowning in guilt and regret, but she canโ€™t mend those wrongs because sheโ€™s dead. She doesnโ€™t get to visit Pearl or Greg in their dreams and beg them to stop hating each other, or release Pearl from her unintentional vow of silence, she canโ€™t apologize to Bismuth or even just TELL anyone where Spinel has been all this time, she cannot explain why she did the things she did to Steven so he can understand her better or get closure or even just tell him that she really did love him more than anything. Rose cannot fix her mistakes, she cannot give anyone closure, she canโ€™t do anything at all.

Sheโ€™s gone, and all we are left with is the memory and legacy of an imperfect person who tried her best and failed far more than she succeeded but still loved with everything she had.

The closest thing we get to Rose adding her own voice to the story after sheโ€™s gone is the tape she leaves for Steven, in which she is the person she became after everything; a kind, flawed gem who loves her family and earth so deeply that sheโ€™s willing to die just so her son can have a chance to experience the joy that is being alive. And tbh I wish more people would remember that version of her, and offer her a bit of grace or at least recognition that she did change and mend things as best she could, but still. We canโ€™t ask the tape questions. The tape canโ€™t tell us what Rose would have thought about whatever was going on at the time. The tape cannot beg our forgiveness or express remorse. Itโ€™s a snapshot of a brief moment where Rose was free and happy, a reminder that she did love Steven, but it can never replace her.

The show even goes out of itโ€™s way to drive Roseโ€™s absence home, by having Steven TRY to use her room to make her, only to realize heโ€™s still just talking to his perception of who she might have been, not who she actually was. So much of his grief and pain in the show comes from the fact that he cannot talk to the one person he needs to speak to more than anyone because sheโ€™s gone, and thatโ€™s the point.

Steven Universe is about grief just as much as itโ€™s about love, and thatโ€™s something I really appreciate both as a writer and as someone who has lost people I loved dearly.

I think thatโ€™s part of the issue. People just donโ€™t get what Rose being dead means, and they hold her to a standard the show is actively working against. We understand that death is not redemption, redemption is a flawed concept in the first place but it requires the person trying to make things right like, actually being alive to make things right. Rose had her redemption arc off screen for the most part, and Steven never got to see it, WE never get to see it outside of flashbacks. We never get to spend a lot of time with post-war but pre-Steven Rose, when she was at her best. We mostly just see her mistakes because those are whatโ€™s causing half the problems in the show. We see her in reverse, going from being a goddess of goodness to someone so profoundly flawed itโ€™s hard to even know how to feel about her, and then the show drives home that you just have to learn to live with that.

The show is asking us to accept that Rose was flawed, and has done things that she shouldnโ€™t have as well as things that are probably hard if not impossible to forgive, but that she was good, and she loved so deeply and profoundly that she was willing to fake her death, cut ties with everything she ever knew, go to WAR, and eventually die so her son could live, and sheโ€™s gone now.

Sheโ€™s gone.

Steven Universe really is one of the most realistic and beautiful depictions of death and grief Iโ€™ve ever seen and I hate how all of that gets ignored in favor of making Rose out to be a supervillain rather than the flawed yet good person she really was. Y'all have to stop standing at the foot of her statue and demanding she answer for her crimes. She canโ€™t. But we, the characters and the fans, can accept her for who she was flaws and all, let her go, and pick up the pieces ourselves.

Thatโ€™s the whole point.

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americanairliines-deactivated20

Being a witch is not the highest paid job in the world.

I JUST WANT HER TO GET HER PRETTY PURPLE HAT AND BE HAPPY

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colormecalm

I would kill for a companion piece to this, where she gets her hat..

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zoann

Im sobbing.

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satamoru

no seriously why hasnโ€™t any replied to this image with a picture of her in the pretty hat cโ€™mon tumblr please

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plintoon

Well itโ€™s not much, but hereโ€™s a comic:ย 

Enjoy!

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satamoru

DEAD

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seerofsarcasm

Reblog every one of these happy end comics I donโ€™t even care

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lt-commander-aly

The fact that itโ€™s Spooky Time again and Iโ€™ve not seen this post so had to go back through my archives to find it, is hurtful.ย 

cant stop thinking about this video

For context this was in response to someone saying their cybertruck was heavy duty

oh no no NO no no I am sorry my dear @thebirdtm you are NOT underselling one of the most seminal pieces of television of my entire childhood like that on MY watch.

"How is claiming they drowned a Hilux possibly underselling it" GREAT question.

To start with a little disclaimer, Top Gear's Hilux did not start off, as in the video above, in pristine condition. It started off with nigh-on 300k kms (for you yankees, that's about 8.4 million Boeing 737 wingspans) and a condition to match.

And it's only once careless driving around town yielded zilch in given shits...

(look, I found a local newspaper picturing it being driven around!)

...that they decided to drown it. Now, the underselling part: if you told me that they drowned a pickup the first place my mind would go to would be "driving it through a river a bit too deep for it, perhaps as deep as its height, until it stalls and then tugging it back out. You will concede that's rather different from tying it down on the seashore with the second highest tide in the world...

...and leaving it there until it engulfs the whole truck...

...only for the ropes to snap...

...and for the truck to be lost to the tides for FIVE HOURS.

(and for those wondering, yes, just as promised, well within an hour and the mandatory limits of basic tools and no spare parts, up the mechanic made the thing fire and away the presenter drove it - I must imagine doing a number on his clothes in the process.)

Oh also I would have mentioned the caravan.

Or at least the wrecking ball.

But hey, at least the fire was mentioned.

Still, I feel it's criminal to leave out how they celebrated it surviving all it did: by parking it at the top of a 23 story building for all to see! :)

Wait NO-

Well, that was uncalled for. Given what it survived, it deserved to rest in a museum instead of being unceremoniously cleared out with the other chunks of public housing that buried it.

Or at least, given that buried it wasn't...

...to be tumbled down from the rubble utop which it sat...

...and be fueled up.

"be fueled up", pfft, what for?, I hear you say. And you are right.

Look at that thing, you say.

Let's be serious now, however pretty of a story it would be that's not a truck that will do anything remotely in the ballpark of firing up, let alone running.

And again, you are right.

The battery was disconnected.

Sorted that, tho

"You can't be serious." Oh darling I sure can! "Well the presenters can't then" no no, I assure you, it lived. Go see it for yourself! It's at the National Motor Museum in Beaulieau, England!

I grew up watching Top Gear and it shaped me in many ways. My adoration of old Toyota Hiluxes is one of them.

The Toyota Hilux is absolutely the small god of endurance and defiance (and possibly masochism).

yes I'm reposting about a small god truck are you kidding me

Can you tell this dub was recorded in South Carolina, and in 1995?

Allegedly, the Japanese producers enjoyed the English dub so much (especially of Natsumi), that when they recorded the TV series, they showed the English OVA dub to the Japanese actors in order to inspire their acting.

Coastal Carolina didnโ€™t make many English dubs, but those they did make are a treat. Besides Youโ€™re Under Arrest, I also enjoy Shinesman and Elf Princess Rane. And many of the same personnel later reformed as another company and did the dub of Miami Guns.

I canโ€™t believe I never realised before this exact moment that the very specific vocal characterisation thatโ€™s indelibly burned into the brains of an entire generation of English-speaking nerds as the 90s Anime Dub Voiceโ„ข is literally just a Carolina accent.

Iโ€™m just stepping into second โ€œSpecial Duty Combat Unit: Shinesmanโ€ because itโ€™s genuinely the most entertaining anime dub Iโ€™ve ever seen in all of my years nothing has ever beat it.

hey, can my cat stay on your blog for a little while?

i'm going out of town for the night and could use someone to watch her

thank you, everyone

oh jeepers, if i'd known she'd be travelling around this much, i'd've given her her leash

make sure to hold on tight to her, okay?

ITโ€™S A WONDERFUL LIFE (1946) โ€ข JIMMY STEWART as George Bailey and LIONEL BARRYMORE as Mr. Potter

wait WHAT ๐Ÿ˜ณ i mean that feels accurate but stillโ€ฆ. WHAT.

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fireortheflood

hereโ€™s the official fbi memo about it! you can view the whole document here

the fbi presented these โ€œfindingsโ€ to mccarthyโ€™s house unamerican activities committee (huac) in an attempt to get itโ€™s a wonderful life pulled from theaters but huac decided not to take any action

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