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Joetastic's Mouthwashing/Signalis Stuff

@joetastic2739

I like making videos of Mouthwashing and Signalis characters ^^ (Pfp by Kirby / OMi) linktr.ee/Joetastic | https://x.com/Joetastic_

hi! so sorry if this is the incorrect place to ask, but do you take commissions for 3d renders of signalis ocs? im super interested in one of mine and my friends characters :] thank you!

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Yup I do! here are my prices, a render is probably $30+ depending on complexity of OC model, pose and background. $100+ for an animation.

(DM me on twitter or on discord @ joetastic, I don't check tumblr as often)

Hey, I just wanted to say I am so sorry about that Dylan dude. I used to know them, they've harassed me so much and made my life a living hell for weeks.

I understand what you're going through, they're a manipulative liar and have done nothing but make everything I've worked so hard to fix worthless.

You don't have to answer this, I just hope you see it...

You're not alone.

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I'm so sorry you had to go through that too. Itโ€™s gut-wrenching to know how many people Dylanโ€™s has hurt, and in such similar, calculated ways. Reading your message felt like someone finally understood the exact storm Iโ€™ve been stuck in. I hate that you experienced it, but Iโ€™m also so so grateful you spoke up.

For the longest time, it felt like I was screaming underwater, like no matter how clearly I saw the lies, everyone else only saw Dylan's mask. But nowโ€ฆ now that the truth is finally out there, that people are finally seeing them for who they really are, itโ€™s a strange kind of catharsis. Not peace, not yet, but something close. Like I can breathe again, even if just a little.

Thank you for this. Really. You reaching out. It reminded me Iโ€™m not alone in this. And neither are you. We all deserved better. We still do.

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They might seem like a nice person in public.

But this is who Dylan/ @anyamusumesonlywife really is behind the scenes.

I'll be honest, when I heard these audios the only thing I could imagine was projection, Dylan is really insulting you through what seems to be the very same things that they are doing, sounds like the behavior is theirs.

For a few weeks, I've shared a small server with them that focused on Mouthwashing Ocs, the Server wasn't very active but I remember I felt a bit... odd? When I saw Dylan's character bio, I think it was through their Toy.House or something similar. I remember it struck me as odd the fact they put A LOT of effort in trying to make their Self-Insert's bio to match the Mouthwashing Wiki, I also remember reading the whole thing but noticing there was some... issues connecting certain parts of the backstory, or aspects that weren't mentioned at first but later were. I didn't say anything because well, no one likes unsolicited advice nor I thought it would have been nice to be the only one not complimenting them and especially on some narrative stuff (I ain't a writer so, yeah I just saved it to myself, also don't get me wrong! I admire those that put such effort onto their ocs and fancharacters, I even felt bad I got this feeling specifically with Dylan, unlike others in the MW or even other fandoms)

When the whole incident happen, I wasn't sure about what to do. I've only complimented people there and shared some of my drawings and renders, Dylan wasn't very active there to be honest. And I would say, I also kept my activity to the minimum when I realized the server was 13+, I rather keep my interactions with minors short, I don't mind giving advice, encouraging them on their AUs or creative journey, providing resources or art tools, but that's it. I left the server mostly because I didn't feel safe, yeah, it sounds dumb a 27 years old woman feels unsafe... but having an oc that is being shipped with Jimmy even in a nice AU kind of makes it predictable about the possible outcomes from others, and I also worried a lot for my fellow Anya-shippers friends. At first I wasn't sure if to leave, as I thought that would lead to possible trouble, like giving a "I'm siding with Joetastic" kind of indirect answer. But when the other document dropped, that's when I realized that Dylan left the server, so I deleted everything and did as well. Then I attempted to make a ticket to notify the Wrong Organ server just in case, while I was at it I noticed that Dylan's username went from blue to white, meaning he left.

Something that has been bugging me ever since both your Document and the other one were made public, its the fact that from what it seems Dylan also commited sexual abuse towards one of his ex-partners, besides the emotional and financial abuse, if I'm reading the document correctly as they were subtle about it.

I may be reaching, but considering that they used HE back when they started with their model and all that jazz... like, I feel sorry for those that transition, are still finding themselves and I hope none of them get shoved inside a bag and get generalized, especially today when it is Transgender Day of Visibility, but it seems that Dylan started using she/they as a means to be better seen especially while shipping themselvse with Anya? I mean, by how... twisted they seem to be I think that could be a possibility, Joe didn't misgender them and so didn't other people if we look back at the dates... but now Dylan claimed that Joe misgendered them when in fact Joe apologized when corrected.

Another thing I've been suspecting is the fact that both in Strawpage and Tumblr you can send self-gimmicks/asks. On Strawpage you don't need it, but in Tumblr you'll need to log-in and turn the anonymous filter on if you want to hide your identity while sending yourself an ask, now of course haters would take advantage of being mean towards literally anyone involved. But, it could have been a possibility that either Dylan and/or some of their friends sent anonymous asks as a means to stir more drama, blame Joe and his fans, get pitied, etc... Lying on the internet is easy, typing is easy, especially when cornered.

Like, it kind of adds up if I keep in mind the document and the timing of things. An abuser changing their gender in order to be shipped with a character that is a victim of sexual abuse, someone who shared similar traits to the protagonist of the game; like the hero complex, narcissism, manipulation, lack of accountability, immaturiry, gaslighting, projection and its tremendously jealous at the point of trying to turn people against the person Dylan feels overshawed by via harassement, lies, etc. And in fact the way how Dylan says it in the audio even seems as if they are repeating words without even realizing its depth and meaning.

It's wild to think that he accuses Joe of sexualising a female character, while... they do the same, just that probably under wraps because Dylan cares about his image and trying to manipulate the narrative by being misleading. Funny how during their rant they go around, making jokes and the irony of trying to call Joe Jimmytastic when in fact the one that has a record in 3 different fandoms for having shitty abusive behavior is them...

To be honest, I don't understand much about the whole non-sharing, aggresive, jealous, sould-bonding thing about self-shipping with a fictional character that doesn't belong to you but I do feel bad for the Yumeshippers, selfshippers that don't go out of their way spreading lies and being abusive, aggressive and completely deranged towards other people instead of counting their losses and know that they cannot control everything and everyone or be possesive over something that is not even their property....

And I hope people to not generalize nor prejudge others because of it.

Tho, what matters is that Joe and all those people that fell Victims of Dylan get better, are able to heal and remember they are supported. So please the rest, either try to apologize if you were mislead, it won't be your fault for being deceived, just remember to offer some love to the victims

They might seem like a nice person in public.

But this is who Dylan/ @anyamusumesonlywife really is behind the scenes.

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Statement Regarding False Claims Made Against Joetastic by Dylan/ @anyamusumesonlywife

Author: Concerned members of the Mouthwashing community, friends of Joe, and Joe himself

Introduction

This post is a joint statement written in defense of Joetastic (hereafter referred to as Joe), a creator in the Mouthwashing community, who has recently been the target of misinformation, mischaracterization, and public defamation. The accusations originate from a former collaborator, anyamusumesonlywife (hereafter referred to as Dylan), and have been circulated via a written document on Google Docs, two TikTok videos, one Tumblr post, and several word-of-mouth messages in community servers on discord.

While Joe has remained silent publicly until now, the scale and intensity of the false claims, combined with the reputational damage they have caused, make it necessary to issue a detailed and factual response. This statement reflects not only Joe's perspective, but also that of peers, colleagues, and neutral parties who have reviewed the evidence and feel compelled to clarify what truly occurred.

This document is not intended to cause harm, incite harassment, or encourage retaliation against Dylan in any form. Its sole purpose is to clarify the facts, present context, and refute the false claims that have been made about Joe. While emotions are understandably high, we ask that readers approach this with maturity and respect. This is about defending someoneโ€™s character, not attacking anotherโ€™s. Any form of harassment directed toward Dylan or anyone involved is strongly discouraged and not condoned by Joe or anyone contributing to this statement.

Context & Timeline

December 26, 2024:ย 

Joe contacts Dylan on Discord asking permission to use their OC in a fan animation. Dylan responds enthusiastically, stating: โ€œYOU CAN 100000% USE MY OC IN ANYTHING!! ID BE SO HONORED.โ€

Over the following weeks, Dylan provides detailed reference material, lore, and expresses gratitude. They never object to any creative decisions made during this period.

Joe maintains professional, transparent communication throughout. Even clarifying their pronouns so as to not misgender their OC accidentally. There is no indication of discomfort or distress from Dylan.

January 11, 2025:

Joe starts becoming increasingly uncomfortable using someone elseโ€™s OC for public-facing content. This is influenced by private feedback and the growing popularity of his work. Joe begins planning an original character, Eira, as a way to tell WLW stories while keeping personal and professional lines clearer.ย 

January 12, 2025:ย 

Dylan noticeably starts to change attitude and starts pressuring Joe

"Yeah if I paid for something I'd want it to be posted D: I don't mean to argue at all /gen I was just super looking forward to finally being seen with my Oc and thought that maybe you posting about them would get selfshipping a bit of a better representation"ย 

Joe talks about making the OC video for free to make it up to Dylan and labeling it as a commission in order to protect both of them over harassment regarding favoritism which Dylan agreed with and voiced no complaints.

Keep in mind that at this point, despite Joe quoting Dylan $40 for a casual model of Dylanโ€™s OC, the transaction has not been made yet and Dylan has not paid for anything.

Dylan later tells Joe that they are in a hospital before proceeding to mention Joe abandoning Dylanโ€™s OC again

Joe pays the $40 out of his own pocket for Dylanโ€™s Casual OC model on Dylanโ€™s behalf first and offers Dylan to pay him any amount for it as he feels bad and wants to make it up to them.

Dylan mentions how the model has a bigger chest which was a misunderstanding by the modeler that was cleared up quickly.

January 15, 2025:ย 

Dylan tells Joe that people are sending cruel messages to them because he was going to use their OC

Joe suggests to Dylan to turn off anonymous inboxes in order to stop the harassment. Dylan states that they chose not to turn it off on their other RP account and continues showing Joe the harassment Dylan has received.

Joe once again sympathizes with Dylan and makes a post telling people not to harass them on his Tumblr profile.

February 27, 2025:ย 

Joe debuts Eira publicly. The character receives instant fan praise, with followers eager to see more interactions between her and Anya.

March 2, 2025:ย 

Dylan voices being upset that their OC did not get the chance to be used by Joe.

Joe points out itโ€™s for the best incase they mischaracterize Dylan and end up hurting Dylanโ€™s feelings.

Joe tries to reassure Dylan again.

March 4, 2025:ย 

March 8, 2025:ย 

Dylan starts blaming Joe for harassment and taking the spotlight from sapphic people like them. Joe states that those harassing Dylan do not represent him and that he does not condone them harassing anybody. Joe once again reassures Dylan it isnโ€™t his intent to steal attention away from anybodyโ€™s OC.

At this point, Joe began to feel that Dylan was manipulating him. Blaming him for things beyond his control and growing increasingly hostile. Though he agreed to make another Tumblr post at Dylanโ€™s request, he hesitated, wanting first to confirm whether his suspicions about Dylanโ€™s intentions and feelings toward him were valid.

Joe once again made it clear that it was never his intention to make anyone uncomfortable. He expressed this repeatedly, hoping to de-escalate the situation and reassure Dylan of his good faith. However, the constant accusations, shifting expectations, and increasingly tense tone from Dylan left Joe feeling emotionally drained and deeply uncomfortable continuing the conversation. Despite his efforts to resolve things respectfully, it became clear that nothing he said was enough to satisfy Dylan. After enduring repeated blame and pressure, Joe ultimately decided, for his own well-being, to stop engaging with Dylan after March 9th.

March 12, 2025:ย 

Despite their agreement to part ways after the free video Joe made for them, Dylan begins circulating a document on a private server framing Joe as manipulative, inconsiderate, and abusive.ย 

The document was then intentionally sent to the developers of Mouthwashing.

March 13, 2025:ย 

When Joe learned that Dylan had created a document filled with false claims and had shared it with the moderators of the Mouthwashing server, knowing it would reach the developers, he felt that a clear line had been crossed. This wasnโ€™t just a personal dispute anymore. Iit was an attempt to damage his professional relationships and potentially jeopardize his future opportunities within a community he had contributed to. It was deeply hurtful to see someone he had once collaborated with try to turn trusted colleagues against him.ย 

In light of this, Joe made the decision to formally request that Dylan no longer use the free work he had created for them. He asked that all related posts be removed from Dylanโ€™s social media, as continuing to showcase the work felt exploitative and disingenuous given the circumstances.

March 15, 2025:ย 

Although Dylan initially respected Joeโ€™s request and removed the content he had worked on, they soon chose to go public with their version of events. Dylan published a Tumblr post detailing their side of the situation, painting Joe in a negative light and reigniting the narrative despite previously agreeing to take a step back. When Joe became aware of the post, he was disappointed but chose to remain silent. At the time, the post wasnโ€™t gaining much traction, and Joe hoped that by not engaging further, the situation would deescalate. His priority was to move on quietly and avoid fueling more drama, even if it meant allowing false or misleading narratives to go unchallenged, for a while.

March 21, 2025:

Joe publicly releases a new animation featuring his characters Eira and Anya. The video shared a few thematic similarities with the earlier animation he had created for Dylan, but it was completely re-animated from the ground up.

Shortly after its release, Dylan sent Joe a direct message accusing him of stealing their animation idea. This was despite the fact that Dylan had never contributed to the production of the video in question. Not in writing, animation, direction, or execution. Furthermore, the themes Dylan claimed ownership over were not unique: they were common story beats that had appeared in Joeโ€™s videos months before he and Dylan had ever interacted.

What made the accusation more troubling was the emotional pressure that followed. Dylan told Joe that because of this video, they had been unable to sleep, were throwing up, and feeling physically ill. The blame was placed entirely on Joe for Dylanโ€™s emotional distress, adding yet another layer of guilt and responsibility to a situation already fraught with manipulation and false claims.

While Joe acknowledges that there are surface-level similarities between the new video featuring his OC and the animation he previously made for Dylan, itโ€™s important to clarify that both videos were conceptualized, animated, and completed entirely by Joe himself. As the sole creator, he has every right to revisit themes, scenes, or stylistic choices from his own body of work.

March 28, 2025:ย 

Joe begins experiencing increased hostility, especially in the Wrong Organ server.ย 

Rumors originating from Dylan began circulating within the Wrong Organ Discord server. Some concerned members of the community reached out to Joe directly to inform him about what was being said.

One of these individuals, growing increasingly concerned, chose to inform Joe about what was happening. It was revealed that Dylan had also been privately messaging random members of the Wrong Organ Discord server out of the blue to talk about Joe.

According to this individual, Dylan not only reached out to people to talk about Joe, but also frequently used these conversations to vent their personal problems and frustrations. When the topic shifted away from their issues, Dylan would quickly lose interest and disengage.

March 30, 2025:ย 

Dylan decides to be bolder and creates 2 TikTok videos claiming Joe has been stalking and harassing them. Dylan also lies to everybody about Joeโ€™s age and sexuality in order to make him seem more creepy, and accuses him of fetishzing lesbians. Dylan also claimed Joe purposefully shared suggestive content to minors on discord when what he did was simply share the videos he made to the Wrong Organ discord server. The Developers and Moderators have stated those videos were not suggestive and are okay to post.

Wrong Organ Discord Mod statement after Dylan started saying the Video Joe posted there was suggestive, confirming that the video would remain up and would not be removed, as it did not violate any server rules:

Confirmation from Wrong Organ themselves:

Dylanโ€™s accusations that Joe is being creepy and fetishizing lesbians are based on out-of-context screenshots. In this example, Joe was not referring to lesbians in general, but specifically to Dylan, who is not a lesbian. The comments were a direct response to Dylanโ€™s repeated criticisms, not a dismissal of the broader sapphic community. The framing of this exchange to suggest Joe was targeting all lesbians is intentionally misleading.

These TikToks that Dylan posted were quickly gaining traction and starting to snowball out of control. When Joe woke up to these videos, he saw that it had already gotten 20k views, 3k likes, 270 comments and 500 bookmarks with these numbers quickly increasing each minute.

In the comments of both TikTok posts, Dylan continued to spread false information and actively engaged with, and at times endorsed cruel, demeaning remarks directed at Joe.

Fearing for the safety of his reputation and watching the false rumors gain increasing traction, Joe realized that remaining silent was no longer an option. After weeks of trying to avoid conflict, it became clear that Dylan had no intention of stopping. The only way to set the record straight was to speak up. Shortly after, Joe made a public Twitter post addressing the situation:

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Shortly after Joeโ€™s public response, Dylan messaged him directly, claiming they were once again receiving anonymous threats. They demanded that Joe take down his post, which had shared and responded to Dylanโ€™s TikTok, alleging that it was inciting harassment. However, Joe had not encouraged any targeted behavior. Instead, he had simply defended himself and presented his side of the story. The message came across as another attempt to shift blame and silence Joeโ€™s response, despite Dylan having gone public first with serious accusations:

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It was at this point that concerned members of the Mouthwashing community, friends of Joe, and Joe himself started creating this document to defend him with evidence, provide clarity, and put an end to the false rumors and damaging accusations that Dylan has continued to spread.

False Accusations and Clarifications

  • "Joe did things to hurt me."Joe never acted with the intention to hurt Dylan. Most of Dylanโ€™s grievances stem from not being the focal point of Joeโ€™s content anymore once he began promoting his own OC, Eira. Feelings of rejection and jealousy do not constitute wrongdoing.
  • "Joe avoided talking to me."Dylan frequently blocked Joe, making conversation impossible. Joe attempted to reach out multiple times, but was left unable to reply or clarify anything. Dylan has even admitted in a voice message that they have said โ€œHey Joe we need to talkโ€ only to block him on Discord right after.
  • "The document was private."Dylan admitted in DMs that they created the document. They also admitted to sharing it with the Mouthwashing Discord Server Moderators, knowing they would have no choice but to escalate it to the Developers, and posting it in group servers, which ultimately led to it leaking on Twitter and Tumblr.
  • "Joe sexualized my OC."This is completely false. One version of the Dylan model had an incorrect chest size due to a modeling error. As soon as Dylan expressed discomfort, Joe fixed the issue immediately. No sexual animations or content were ever produced.
  • "Joe is a cishet man pushing 30."Joe has never disclosed his age, sexuality or identity publicly. These are baseless, personal attacks meant to discredit his work and invalidate his ability to make WLW content.
  • "Joeโ€™s fans are harassing me."Joe has made public posts urging fans not to harass anyone. Dylan admitted in DMs that they delete alleged threats before documenting them. There is no proof that any harassment originated from Joeโ€™s audience. Additionally, when Joe suggested disabling their inbox to prevent further messages, Dylan declined, choosing to keep it open despite knowing it could expose them to continued negative interactions.
  • "He demanded I take down content out of spite."Joe requested the removal of his content only after learning Dylan was spreading a document designed to undermine his career. He also issued a full refund of $10 which was the only amount Dylan paid.
  • "Joe stole my idea."There is no evidence of this. Eiraโ€™s story, relationship dynamics, and design were entirely Joeโ€™s original creation and not based on Dylanโ€™s work.

Addressing Dylanโ€™s Document and Its Impact

Despite all prior agreements and kindness by Joe, Dylan later created a document containing numerous false claims about him. Though Dylan claimed it was private, they:

  • Shared it in a private server with 50+ members, which eventually lead to it being leaked to Twitter and Tumblr
  • Escalated it to the Mouthwashing developers in an attempt to make them take action against him.
  • Continued discussing it publicly on Tumblr, Discord and TikTok

This document contained out-of-context screenshots and omitted any of Joeโ€™s messages that would provide clarity. Below are direct responses to some of their accusations:

1. On Misgendering:

Joe explicitly asked how Dylan would like to be referred to, and was told โ€œsheโ€ could be used sometimes. There was no insistence on one set of pronouns at the time, and no clear boundaries communicated. When Dylan later clarified that they no longer wanted โ€œshe/herโ€ used, Joe complied and apologized. To suggest malicious intent from this misunderstanding ignores Joeโ€™s effort to ask first and adjust when told otherwise.

2. The Model Miscommunication:

ย Dylan initially agreed to have a casual outfit model made for their OC. Joe let them know he wanted to use a different modeler, his own trusted friend. Dylan did not object at the time and even proceeded with the plan. The issue with the chest size was never mentioned beforehand. Once Dylan did express discomfort, Joe immediately offered to have the model adjusted. The โ€œboobsโ€ were not intentional or malicious, it was a placeholder default body shape by the modeler who was unaware of Dylanโ€™s preferences.

Also, the claim that Joe made Dylan pay for the model and then didnโ€™t use it omits the fact that Dylan voluntarily agreed to commission it and never raised objections about payment at the time. Joe was under no obligation to use the final model if it didnโ€™t suit the animation plans or deadlines.

3. The Jimmy Comment:

A one-off comment in a Discord chat suggesting a possible idea about a character being flirty is not the same as planning to depict abuse or trauma. Joe was brainstorming lighthearted or comedic ideas, not proposing anything harmful or serious.

A one-off comment in a Discord chat suggesting a possible idea about a character being flirty is not the same as planning to depict abuse or trauma. Joe was brainstorming lighthearted or comedic ideas, not proposing anything harmful or serious.

At the time, Dylan did not express discomfort directly to Joe about the idea. If boundaries had been stated, they wouldโ€™ve been respected, as they always are when clearly communicated.

To later describe this as triggering without having voiced any discomfort beforehand places the burden unfairly on Joe to anticipate private emotional associations he could not possibly have known.

ย 4. On โ€œLying to His Fansโ€ and Commissions:

This point is true. Joe did say he would publicly refer to the animation as a commission, even though it was offered for free. This was not done to deceive maliciously, but to avoid drama within the self-ship community, where favoritism and perceived bias can lead to harassment or alienation. At the time, Joe was trying to protect both himself and Dylan from unwanted attention, not manipulate or mislead his audience for personal gain.

In hindsight, this wasnโ€™t the best decision, and Joe acknowledges that it could have been handled more transparently. But the intent was rooted in avoiding unnecessary harassment and maintaining peace within the community, not exploitation.

5. The โ€œIncorrectโ€ Commission and Animation Limitations:

Joe was given vague instructions at first, and later Dylan made more specific demands after work had already begun. Some requests, like kissing animations, are technically complex, not because they're impossible, but because redoing motion capture requires starting the entire animation process from scratch. Given that this was a free commission offered to make amends, Joe ultimately decided it wasnโ€™t worth the significant time and effort to completely redo the mocap for that one detail. To imply the animation was โ€œrushedโ€ or careless ignores the time, labor, and good faith Joe put into creating it, without any charge to Dylan.

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This situation ultimately boils down to a lack of clear communication, shifting boundaries, and a misalignment of expectations. Joe made every reasonable effort to clarify things, resolve concerns when they were brought up, and maintain professionalism even as Dylanโ€™s tone turned accusatory and public. Rather than handling concerns privately, Dylan chose to misrepresent conversations, stir public outrage, and cause irreparable harm over what could have been resolved respectfully through honest dialogue.

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Contradictions Between DMs and Dylanโ€™s Document

There is a clear and provable pattern of Dylan contradicting themselves:

  • In DMs, Dylan gave Joe explicit permission to use their OC and even called it an honor.
  • They later claimed they were pressured or manipulated, despite no sign of discomfort in early conversations.
  • They said the document was "private," then admitted to giving it to developers.
  • They claimed to not want drama, yet continued to spread their story on social media and discord servers.

These contradictions demonstrate why it is essential to show the full context, not just cropped screenshots or selective statements.

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Why Joe Stopped Working With Dylan

After several months, Joe received feedback from others in the fandom, including selfshippers and other artists, that using one specific selfship OC could cause issues of perceived favoritism, particularly due to his visibility in the Mouthwashing community.

Rather than risk alienating others or becoming the center of drama, Joe made the difficult decision to create his own OC: Eira. This decision was not out of dislike or dismissal of Dylan, but simply a choice to separate his work from personal ships to maintain professional boundaries.

Joe explained this clearly to Dylan, offering to continue providing model-swapped versions of his animations featuring their OC for private use, and even offered a free commission as a gesture of goodwill. Dylan agreed at the time.

On WLW Storytelling & Backlash

Eiraโ€™s relationship with Anya was created to have fun exploring a romantic dynamic that wouldnโ€™t have been possible with the other characters of Mouthwashing. The positive reception from fans reinforced Joeโ€™s decision to continue making Eira x Anya videos, but it also led to jealousy and accusations from Dylan.

Dylan publicly expressed discomfort that Joeโ€™s OC x Canon pairing (Eira x Anya) gained more traction than theirs. However, Joe cannot control public reception and should not be punished for simply creating content that many people happen to enjoy.

The idea that only certain creators are โ€œallowedโ€ to make sapphic content is deeply exclusionary. While Joe is male and has chosen to keep his sexuality private out of concern for real-life repercussions, he has never claimed to represent the sapphic community as a whole. Eiraโ€™s relationship with Anya was created to simply have fun exploring a romantic dynamic that wouldnโ€™t have been possible with other characters of the existing crew.ย 

General Notes on Communication & Responsibility

When collaborating, both parties must communicate clearly. Dylan never told Joe their OC needed to be flat-chested until after the model was already made. Once they did, Joe addressed it without hesitation.ย 

Many of the things Dylan later expressed discomfort with, such as aspects of the model, content tone, or character interactions, were things they initially approved of or showed no issue with. These concerns were not communicated clearly or directly to Joe at the time, making it extremely difficult for him to respond or adjust appropriately.ย 

Joe cannot read minds. He relies on open, honest communication, and instead was met with passive-aggressive behavior, guilt-tripping, and eventual public defamation rather than respectful, straightforward feedback.

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Dylanโ€™s Troubling Pattern of Behavior Prior to Mouthwashing

As this situation has unfolded, numerous people, both from within and beyond the Mouthwashing community, have come forward with personal experiences that reflect long-standing patterns of manipulation, emotional abuse, and deception by Dylan. These testimonies paint a consistent picture of behavior that spans years, communities, and contexts, validating that Joeโ€™s experience is not isolated.

ย 1. The "Beware: Dylan" Document

After Joe spoke publicly, a former friend of Dylanโ€™s came forward with a document titled โ€œBeware: Dylanโ€, originally written in 2023. This document outlines disturbing behavioral patterns that mirror the ones Joe experienced, including:

  • Harassment and stalking of community members, often bragged about openly.
  • Financial manipulation, pressuring others (including minors) into buying him things, sometimes through coercion.
  • Verbal abuse, boundary-crossing behavior, and emotional blackmail, including using mental illness as a scapegoat for harmful conduct.
  • Inappropriate sexual behavior and false accusations, such as fabricating or exaggerating claims of rape and abuse, then using them to gain control or sympathy.
  • Involvement of minors in NSFW spaces, including allowing a 12-year-old access to explicit content in his Discord server.

While some stories were relayed without screenshots due to them happening in person, the overall consistency, specificity, and emotional damage documented gives weight to the claims. This report alone shows a deep history of Dylan harming others and escaping accountability through deception.

2. Additional Personal Testimonies from Dylanโ€™s Past

In response to Joeโ€™s story, even more individuals from Dylanโ€™s past,entirely unrelated to Mouthwashing, came forward with direct messages, adding further weight to the claims:

  • Dylan reportedly mocked a grooming survivor, leaking their trauma to others despite requests for privacy.
  • He allegedly falsified or twisted claims of rape, incest, and other abuseโ€”often contradicting previous stories to suit the narrative he wanted in each situation.
  • Former friends say Dylan made baseless accusations, calling others pedophiles or zoophiles without evidence.
  • Several individuals described being financially exploited, manipulated into giving Dylan money or gifts, even when they were struggling themselves.
  • One artist recalled being coerced into creating NSFW artwork involving Dylanโ€™s OC, out of fear theyโ€™d be guilted for refusing.
  • Repeated use of "alters" to deflect responsibility or make harmful statements (e.g., mocking survivors), with later denial of the behavior.

All of these stories, while coming from different places and time periods, echo the same patterns of behavior: emotional manipulation, fabrication, control, and harm:

3. The Statement from Dylanโ€™s Private Server Members

Even more significantly, members of the very server where Dylan first spread the document targeting Joe have released a public apology and disavowal. Their statement included:

  • A direct apology to Joe and the Mouthwashing developers, expressing regret for enabling and supporting Dylan.
  • Acknowledgement that they spread misinformation, often without verification, under Dylanโ€™s influence.
  • Admission that Dylan lied about his age (claiming to be 21 when he was actually 17), and regularly weaponized mental health crises to manipulate his friends and maintain control of the situation.
  • Confirmation that Dylan promised to stop escalating but continued posting publicly, including TikToks and Discord messages that worsened the harassment against Joe.
  • The group's decision to completely cut ties with Dylan, stating that his behavior became so destructive that they could no longer defend or excuse it.

Their reflections show how even Dylanโ€™s closest allies eventually recognized the manipulation and harm he was causing, not just to Joe, but to the entire Mouthwashing community.

Full Transparency: Discord DM Archive

Statement from Joetastic himself:

In the interest of complete transparency, I am releasing the full Discord DM history between myself and Dylan, unedited and timestamped, in both HTML format and a video scroll-through. I have nothing to hide.

These messages are being made public not to provoke drama, but to correct the record. I would not have shared these DMs under normal circumstances. However, Dylan chose to selectively leak private messages in their document and spread false claims through TikTok and other platforms. At that point, the context and truth were no longer safe in private.

By sharing the full logs, anyone can see:

  • How tone and context were omitted in Dylanโ€™s narrative.
  • That many of Dylanโ€™s claims are misleading or outright false.
  • How I made repeated efforts to communicate respectfully, accommodate concerns, and resolve conflict.
  • That key boundaries were never communicated until far too late, making many of their criticisms disingenuous in hindsight.

๐Ÿ“ Download/Read the DM Archive (HTML format โ€“ Desktop only):https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eBIc6smyRHxXLXXJbJ-Z0jchmRgEQS12/view?usp=drive_link Note: The HTML version only works properly on desktop. Due to Dylan deleting many of their messages, some attachments or context may appear missing.

๐ŸŽฅ Watch the Full Scroll-Through Video (Includes deleted attachments):https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tL2gpgRe3vhZn1tUx3lC9ZojQq4YhETr/view?usp=drive_link This video captures the entire DM history, including deleted messages and missing attachments that no longer appear in the HTML archive.

No sensitive third-party information is shown. Only the conversations between Dylan and me. This is not meant to shame, harass, or attack. It is simply here so people can see the full picture, and decide for themselves what actually happened.

Conclusion

What began as a creative collaboration between Joe and Dylan evolved into a deeply harmful and public smear campaign. One built on selective context, miscommunication, and a pattern of manipulative behavior that has now been exposed across multiple communities.

Dylanโ€™s original claims have been thoroughly addressed, supported by screenshots, full message logs, and statements from others directly involved. But more than that, what this document now reveals is a clear, consistent pattern: Dylan has a long history of emotional manipulation, deflection, false accusations, and abuse. A pattern recognized not just by Joe, but by dozens of others who have independently come forward to speak out.

These voices, ranging from former friends, ex-partners, artists, and even Dylanโ€™s own private server members, have offered accounts that match Joeโ€™s experience almost exactly. They paint a picture of someone who repeatedly harms others, weaponizes trauma, and silences dissent through fear, guilt, or public outrage.

Joe did not ask for this conflict. He has stayed silent for as long as he could, hoping the situation would resolve quietly. But after being falsely accused, misrepresented, and publicly defamed, while also receiving harassment and emotional harm as a result, he made the difficult decision to speak up. This document is the result of that decision. It is not meant to destroy anyone, but to defend truthfully, with evidence, and without hiding behind half-truths or anonymity.

No one should have to prove they are not the villain in someone elseโ€™s fantasy, but when reputations, safety, and emotional well-being are at risk, clarity matters. Transparency matters.

Joe has gone above and beyond to provide full context. Sharing every message, opening every conversation, and giving space to others who were affected by Dylan long before this situation began. In doing so, he has shown not only that he was falsely accused, but that he was one of many who were drawn into a harmful cycle of emotional abuse.

Let this document serve as both a defense and a warning. For those who were misled, manipulated, or pressured into taking sides: you are not the enemy. But now that the truth is here, itโ€™s time to move forward with honesty, accountability, and compassion.

This document is being published not out of spite, but out of necessity. When lies and selective storytelling threaten a creatorโ€™s career, reputation, and relationships, they have the right to speak up.

Joe remains open to peaceful resolution. But he will no longer tolerate misinformation or character assassination. He has worked hard to be respectful, creative, and honest in all his collaborations with others. If you have questions, please contact Joe directly. His goal is not to escalate, but to bring clarity to this whole situation.

A Personal Note from Joe

"Throughout this situation, Iโ€™ve received a lot of hate, harassment, dogpiling, and even death threats. I know much of it came from people who were misinformed, manipulated, or caught up in Dylan/anyamusumesonlywifeโ€™s narrative. And honestly, I understand.

People were lied to. Context was taken away. Things were framed to make me look like a villain, and itโ€™s easy to believe that when youโ€™re only shown one side. I know what itโ€™s like to trust someone who turns out to be harmful, and I donโ€™t blame anyone for falling into that.

So I want to say this clearly: I forgive you.

If you were part of the private server where Dylan shared their document, if you said something cruel, if you shared their posts or believed their claims: I donโ€™t hate you. Iโ€™m not holding a grudge. If you want to apologize or be unblocked, youโ€™re more than welcome to reach out. I donโ€™t think youโ€™re a bad person. I think you were in a bad situation, and I get that.

This whole thing has hurt a lot of people, including me. But I donโ€™t want it to stay that way. If you want to move forward, I do too."

Statement Regarding False Claims Made Against Joetastic by Dylan/ @anyamusumesonlywife

Author: Concerned members of the Mouthwashing community, friends of Joe, and Joe himself

Introduction

This post is a joint statement written in defense of Joetastic (hereafter referred to as Joe), a creator in the Mouthwashing community, who has recently been the target of misinformation, mischaracterization, and public defamation. The accusations originate from a former collaborator, anyamusumesonlywife (hereafter referred to as Dylan), and have been circulated via a written document on Google Docs, two TikTok videos, one Tumblr post, and several word-of-mouth messages in community servers on discord.

While Joe has remained silent publicly until now, the scale and intensity of the false claims, combined with the reputational damage they have caused, make it necessary to issue a detailed and factual response. This statement reflects not only Joe's perspective, but also that of peers, colleagues, and neutral parties who have reviewed the evidence and feel compelled to clarify what truly occurred.

This document is not intended to cause harm, incite harassment, or encourage retaliation against Dylan in any form. Its sole purpose is to clarify the facts, present context, and refute the false claims that have been made about Joe. While emotions are understandably high, we ask that readers approach this with maturity and respect. This is about defending someoneโ€™s character, not attacking anotherโ€™s. Any form of harassment directed toward Dylan or anyone involved is strongly discouraged and not condoned by Joe or anyone contributing to this statement.

Context & Timeline

December 26, 2024:ย 

Joe contacts Dylan on Discord asking permission to use their OC in a fan animation. Dylan responds enthusiastically, stating: โ€œYOU CAN 100000% USE MY OC IN ANYTHING!! ID BE SO HONORED.โ€

Over the following weeks, Dylan provides detailed reference material, lore, and expresses gratitude. They never object to any creative decisions made during this period.

Joe maintains professional, transparent communication throughout. Even clarifying their pronouns so as to not misgender their OC accidentally. There is no indication of discomfort or distress from Dylan.

January 11, 2025:

Joe starts becoming increasingly uncomfortable using someone elseโ€™s OC for public-facing content. This is influenced by private feedback and the growing popularity of his work. Joe begins planning an original character, Eira, as a way to tell WLW stories while keeping personal and professional lines clearer.ย 

January 12, 2025:ย 

Dylan noticeably starts to change attitude and starts pressuring Joe

"Yeah if I paid for something I'd want it to be posted D: I don't mean to argue at all /gen I was just super looking forward to finally being seen with my Oc and thought that maybe you posting about them would get selfshipping a bit of a better representation"ย 

Joe talks about making the OC video for free to make it up to Dylan and labeling it as a commission in order to protect both of them over harassment regarding favoritism which Dylan agreed with and voiced no complaints.

Keep in mind that at this point, despite Joe quoting Dylan $40 for a casual model of Dylanโ€™s OC, the transaction has not been made yet and Dylan has not paid for anything.

Dylan later tells Joe that they are in a hospital before proceeding to mention Joe abandoning Dylanโ€™s OC again

Joe pays the $40 out of his own pocket for Dylanโ€™s Casual OC model on Dylanโ€™s behalf first and offers Dylan to pay him any amount for it as he feels bad and wants to make it up to them.

Dylan mentions how the model has a bigger chest which was a misunderstanding by the modeler that was cleared up quickly.

January 15, 2025:ย 

Dylan tells Joe that people are sending cruel messages to them because he was going to use their OC

Joe suggests to Dylan to turn off anonymous inboxes in order to stop the harassment. Dylan states that they chose not to turn it off on their other RP account and continues showing Joe the harassment Dylan has received.

Joe once again sympathizes with Dylan and makes a post telling people not to harass them on his Tumblr profile.

February 27, 2025:ย 

Joe debuts Eira publicly. The character receives instant fan praise, with followers eager to see more interactions between her and Anya.

March 2, 2025:ย 

Dylan voices being upset that their OC did not get the chance to be used by Joe.

Joe points out itโ€™s for the best incase they mischaracterize Dylan and end up hurting Dylanโ€™s feelings.

Joe tries to reassure Dylan again.

March 4, 2025:ย 

March 8, 2025:ย 

Dylan starts blaming Joe for harassment and taking the spotlight from sapphic people like them. Joe states that those harassing Dylan do not represent him and that he does not condone them harassing anybody. Joe once again reassures Dylan it isnโ€™t his intent to steal attention away from anybodyโ€™s OC.

At this point, Joe began to feel that Dylan was manipulating him. Blaming him for things beyond his control and growing increasingly hostile. Though he agreed to make another Tumblr post at Dylanโ€™s request, he hesitated, wanting first to confirm whether his suspicions about Dylanโ€™s intentions and feelings toward him were valid.

Joe once again made it clear that it was never his intention to make anyone uncomfortable. He expressed this repeatedly, hoping to de-escalate the situation and reassure Dylan of his good faith. However, the constant accusations, shifting expectations, and increasingly tense tone from Dylan left Joe feeling emotionally drained and deeply uncomfortable continuing the conversation. Despite his efforts to resolve things respectfully, it became clear that nothing he said was enough to satisfy Dylan. After enduring repeated blame and pressure, Joe ultimately decided, for his own well-being, to stop engaging with Dylan after March 9th.

March 12, 2025:ย 

Despite their agreement to part ways after the free video Joe made for them, Dylan begins circulating a document on a private server framing Joe as manipulative, inconsiderate, and abusive.ย 

The document was then intentionally sent to the developers of Mouthwashing.

March 13, 2025:ย 

When Joe learned that Dylan had created a document filled with false claims and had shared it with the moderators of the Mouthwashing server, knowing it would reach the developers, he felt that a clear line had been crossed. This wasnโ€™t just a personal dispute anymore. Iit was an attempt to damage his professional relationships and potentially jeopardize his future opportunities within a community he had contributed to. It was deeply hurtful to see someone he had once collaborated with try to turn trusted colleagues against him.ย 

In light of this, Joe made the decision to formally request that Dylan no longer use the free work he had created for them. He asked that all related posts be removed from Dylanโ€™s social media, as continuing to showcase the work felt exploitative and disingenuous given the circumstances.

March 15, 2025:ย 

Although Dylan initially respected Joeโ€™s request and removed the content he had worked on, they soon chose to go public with their version of events. Dylan published a Tumblr post detailing their side of the situation, painting Joe in a negative light and reigniting the narrative despite previously agreeing to take a step back. When Joe became aware of the post, he was disappointed but chose to remain silent. At the time, the post wasnโ€™t gaining much traction, and Joe hoped that by not engaging further, the situation would deescalate. His priority was to move on quietly and avoid fueling more drama, even if it meant allowing false or misleading narratives to go unchallenged, for a while.

March 21, 2025:

Joe publicly releases a new animation featuring his characters Eira and Anya. The video shared a few thematic similarities with the earlier animation he had created for Dylan, but it was completely re-animated from the ground up.

Shortly after its release, Dylan sent Joe a direct message accusing him of stealing their animation idea. This was despite the fact that Dylan had never contributed to the production of the video in question. Not in writing, animation, direction, or execution. Furthermore, the themes Dylan claimed ownership over were not unique: they were common story beats that had appeared in Joeโ€™s videos months before he and Dylan had ever interacted.

What made the accusation more troubling was the emotional pressure that followed. Dylan told Joe that because of this video, they had been unable to sleep, were throwing up, and feeling physically ill. The blame was placed entirely on Joe for Dylanโ€™s emotional distress, adding yet another layer of guilt and responsibility to a situation already fraught with manipulation and false claims.

While Joe acknowledges that there are surface-level similarities between the new video featuring his OC and the animation he previously made for Dylan, itโ€™s important to clarify that both videos were conceptualized, animated, and completed entirely by Joe himself. As the sole creator, he has every right to revisit themes, scenes, or stylistic choices from his own body of work.

March 28, 2025:ย 

Joe begins experiencing increased hostility, especially in the Wrong Organ server.ย 

Rumors originating from Dylan began circulating within the Wrong Organ Discord server. Some concerned members of the community reached out to Joe directly to inform him about what was being said.

One of these individuals, growing increasingly concerned, chose to inform Joe about what was happening. It was revealed that Dylan had also been privately messaging random members of the Wrong Organ Discord server out of the blue to talk about Joe.

According to this individual, Dylan not only reached out to people to talk about Joe, but also frequently used these conversations to vent their personal problems and frustrations. When the topic shifted away from their issues, Dylan would quickly lose interest and disengage.

March 30, 2025:ย 

Dylan decides to be bolder and creates 2 TikTok videos claiming Joe has been stalking and harassing them. Dylan also lies to everybody about Joeโ€™s age and sexuality in order to make him seem more creepy, and accuses him of fetishzing lesbians. Dylan also claimed Joe purposefully shared suggestive content to minors on discord when what he did was simply share the videos he made to the Wrong Organ discord server. The Developers and Moderators have stated those videos were not suggestive and are okay to post.

Wrong Organ Discord Mod statement after Dylan started saying the Video Joe posted there was suggestive, confirming that the video would remain up and would not be removed, as it did not violate any server rules:

Confirmation from Wrong Organ themselves:

Dylanโ€™s accusations that Joe is being creepy and fetishizing lesbians are based on out-of-context screenshots. In this example, Joe was not referring to lesbians in general, but specifically to Dylan, who is not a lesbian. The comments were a direct response to Dylanโ€™s repeated criticisms, not a dismissal of the broader sapphic community. The framing of this exchange to suggest Joe was targeting all lesbians is intentionally misleading.

These TikToks that Dylan posted were quickly gaining traction and starting to snowball out of control. When Joe woke up to these videos, he saw that it had already gotten 20k views, 3k likes, 270 comments and 500 bookmarks with these numbers quickly increasing each minute.

In the comments of both TikTok posts, Dylan continued to spread false information and actively engaged with, and at times endorsed cruel, demeaning remarks directed at Joe.

Fearing for the safety of his reputation and watching the false rumors gain increasing traction, Joe realized that remaining silent was no longer an option. After weeks of trying to avoid conflict, it became clear that Dylan had no intention of stopping. The only way to set the record straight was to speak up. Shortly after, Joe made a public Twitter post addressing the situation:

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Behold, Eiranya fanart (2 lazy to finish anything lately)

I HAVE FINALLY RETURNED, (was too busy catching up on One Piece, school and shit) and I will be trying to post more recently, next post will probably a fanfic again idk

im gonna go to sleep

Soooo... @GamerSupps asked me to make a promo video for them...

So I did. By trapping my OC Eira in a legally distinct, off-brand spaceship and making her shill energy drinks against her will >:P

Use promo code Joetastic for 10% off or click here! https://gamersupps.gg/Joetastic

Thanks to fellow GamerSupps Partner @Celadon_VA for voicing Eira and the mysterious woman behind the camera!

Song used: Airport Lounge - Kevin MacLeod

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