yk i love tr!sneeg but also he’s so loyal to a fault that it hurts to see . the blind loyalty and the way he just believes the ones he trusts are always correct in their judgement (cough cough tr!ros) without even trying to form his own opinion on it thats something other than “well my friend wanted my help so i help them” is like . he’s barely his own person ? but also he is ???? like he has his own goals and personality unrelated to the kingdom / his allies . but just the way he handles favors his friends ask of him without asking any questions or looking into the situation neutrally and making his own separate opinion , acting like he has no part of it despite actively helping one side (cough cough . pili 2 with !pangi) , is soooo . idk bro . his character almost seems so shallow with how he barely even tries to come to his own conclusion , and blindly helps the ones he trusts . even if their judgements might be wrong .

dare i say it . calling him the kingdom’s “dog” is . accurate lol . bc thats all he does for the kingdom ; he helps them with their requests . he is a soldier through and through . but why cant he be more than that ? i feel like his loyalty to the kingdom limits his opportunities to be a person .

so yeah anyway this is just me saying that i want tr!sneeg to leave yellow faction and become his Own Guy™ . or for yellow faction / factions in general to dissolve entirely . because his loyalty and unquestioning trust in his allies who have prominent flaws in their thinking , is problematic for everyone around him lowkey . and also i think it’d be fun to see his loyal ties / loyalty be strained :D

(edit: tbf he Does have some lines/boundaries considering what requests his allies ask of him . like if ros wanted him to kill her he would refuse . he’s not That brainless and unquestioning lol — he does this because he cares about their wellbeing . if what they ask goes against their wellbeing , he will not do it . which i love being the protector n all , but my gripe isnt really about that . bc caring about someone mentally means seeing their flaws and either accepting them or doing something about it if the flaw is hurting them and their judgement . and he doesnt do that well . because he’s too trusting)

all im saying is i need tr!sneeg to pull a philza and become the hermit he was meant to be okay

If sneeg had outright fatal flaws it would be personal loyalty and hubris in that exact order

okay but tr!foolish clearly enjoys not knowing the end. the thrill, the anticipation of what will happen next. how will this end. how will i keep moving forward after this. this is one of his main traits. his open giddyness to the unknown. that’s the opposite of tr!bad who would prefer to know the conclusion. who won’t take a fight he doesn’t know the guaranteed outcome of. who toils and plans and prepares on how he will do something and how he wants it to end.

life prefers the journey ahead while death prefers the expected ending.

yesterday was funnily enough such a good example of this. tr!bad knew exactly what was laid out to him. he knew the goal, he knew where and who was going to be there. although he played no part in the killing, he knew what was going to happen on the stage before the curtain call. while tr!foolish, he went ahead and just followed tr!owen understanding the gist of what’s really going on, but antsily waiting to see how this will happen. what truths will be revealed. will he live or not. he’s not stupid. he understood the risk. the trust was never fully there, but the totem likes gambling on what will come after. a willing actor of the play.

Here are all Owen's letters I found !

Bad was drinking all night and woke up hungover..

He's still drinking and stumbling and slurring

Also he's stealing all the books from Owen that are scattered

There’s this interesting pattern in how Yellow and Green view each other—and it stems a lot about how they operate. Yellow has a point blank view of green meanwhile green tends to have a more nuanced view of yellow.

Yellow, as a faction, tends to see Green in black and white. You're either a threat or an ally. Right or wrong. There’s not a lot of room for in-between. And that probably comes from how Yellow works: they’re united under one banner, one leader, one shared purpose. Their morals and values are often aligned, so when one acts, it's seen as a reflection of them all. If one makes a choice, it's assumed others stand by it.

But Green isn't like that. A loose circle of nomads who walk side by side, not in line. They don’t follow a single voice; they follow their own. They support each other, but they don’t always agree. Even when Bad makes a mess of things, the others call him out. They might support him, but it doesn't mean they condone everything he does. Their values aren’t tied together with a bow—they’re layered. Green lets its people be people. Messy. Contradictory. Still worth standing beside.

That’s why Green often holds more nuanced views of Yellow. Pangi understands why Sneeg hates him, but doesn't hate him back. Lukey disagrees with what Foolish does, but he gets why he did it. There's room for disagreement without hate.

Meanwhile, Sneeg blames Bad for chaos, Ros's memory loss, even Ros’s pain. Zam blames Bad for Foolish’s death, despite Owen swinging the blade. And Ros would kill for her faction, yet can’t stomach Pangi doing the same.

And maybe that’s the heart of it. Yellow doesn’t do nuance—because their strength lies in standing as one. Green exists in the blur, in the mess, in the space between right and wrong.

Yellow moves like a sword—sharp, singular, aimed with purpose. Green moves like a wildfire—messy, unpredictable, but not without reason. One cuts in straight lines. The other spreads in all directions. And sometimes, to something shaped like a blade, anything that doesn’t hold its edge looks like a threat

Wait okay so--

no offense to op!! but I read the first two paragraphs of this and went: *squints* "...this is written by a green viewer, isn't it?"

Which I think is really interesting! Stick with me for a second,,,

From my experience, mainly yellow viewers will tend to bring up kills (number of kills, number of resets, justification of kills, etc.), while green viewers tend to bring up faction hierarchy (monarch vs democracy, loyalty vs independence, etc.)

Which is totally a reflection of the founders of those factions!

tr!bad started the green faction to oppose the "tyranny" of tr!foolish's monarchy. He sees !foolish as a "dictator" and all the yellow members as "subjects". This is technically true, like, if you only go off of verbal statements (everyone calls !foolish "king" he has referred to his people as "peasants" lmao) but the actual structure of the faction is a lot more centered around !ros than !foolish. Almost literally everything the yellow faction does is for or because of !ros, not !foolish, just because they like her. (And a lot more of the yellow factions actions are actually "independent" decisions that the rest of the members just jump in to defend after the fact. Like, yellow has a clear communication problem lol they are not sitting around planning to kill Lukey or anything, someone does it and then the rest of them go "well okay I guess we're okay with killing Lukey now")

On the other side, !foolish sees !bad as an agent of chaos and the catalyst of all the conflict. He doesn't necessarily think everyone on green reports to !bad like a leader, but he does think that !bad basically has a hand in everything that's going on because he's nosy and bored. He focuses more on the fact that !bad "started it" and that green team kills "unprovoked" while yellow team "only" kills in retaliation (obviously this is not true, but yellow does like to claim it a lot)

I think it's really interesting that the viewers of each faction are mirroring the positions taken by the creators of each one!

...I realize this is doesn't really have much to do with what was said in the original post ig, I just think it's neat

There’s this interesting pattern in how Yellow and Green view each other—and it stems a lot about how they operate. Yellow has a point blank view of green meanwhile green tends to have a more nuanced view of yellow.

Yellow, as a faction, tends to see Green in black and white. You're either a threat or an ally. Right or wrong. There’s not a lot of room for in-between. And that probably comes from how Yellow works: they’re united under one banner, one leader, one shared purpose. Their morals and values are often aligned, so when one acts, it's seen as a reflection of them all. If one makes a choice, it's assumed others stand by it.

But Green isn't like that. A loose circle of nomads who walk side by side, not in line. They don’t follow a single voice; they follow their own. They support each other, but they don’t always agree. Even when Bad makes a mess of things, the others call him out. They might support him, but it doesn't mean they condone everything he does. Their values aren’t tied together with a bow—they’re layered. Green lets its people be people. Messy. Contradictory. Still worth standing beside.

That’s why Green often holds more nuanced views of Yellow. Pangi understands why Sneeg hates him, but doesn't hate him back. Lukey disagrees with what Foolish does, but he gets why he did it. There's room for disagreement without hate.

Meanwhile, Sneeg blames Bad for chaos, Ros's memory loss, even Ros’s pain. Zam blames Bad for Foolish’s death, despite Owen swinging the blade. And Ros would kill for her faction, yet can’t stomach Pangi doing the same.

And maybe that’s the heart of it. Yellow doesn’t do nuance—because their strength lies in standing as one. Green exists in the blur, in the mess, in the space between right and wrong.

Yellow moves like a sword—sharp, singular, aimed with purpose. Green moves like a wildfire—messy, unpredictable, but not without reason. One cuts in straight lines. The other spreads in all directions. And sometimes, to something shaped like a blade, anything that doesn’t hold its edge looks like a threat

I find the analysis pretty good, though flawed in some aspects and fails to acknowledge that yellow is much less unified than everyone thinks. There is considerable difference between how Foolish, Sneeg, Ros and Zam act and their motivations for opposing green.

Yellow has been at war with green since the beginning. From yellow's perspective, green exists solely because Bad wanted to oppose Foolish.

Due to the nature of roleplay, knowing the intentions of another character is very difficult, therefore leading people to base their decisions and judgements on actions rather than intentions. To Sneeg, who does not know anything about Bad's demonic nature, does it matter that he felt conflicted about killing Ros? She died the same, she was reset the same. And the only two people who could tell him about the specifics of the deal are either physically incapable of doing so or don't remember it.

And it makes perfect sense for Yellow to blame Bad for Foolish's death. First, Owen broke the truce and was banished from the Realm. They can't retaliate against him, and they have to avenge the murder of their king both out of love for him and to not appear weak. They don't know that Bad, Pangi and Owen often have conflicting views about their actions. And does it matter that they disagree on something, if at the end of the day they will support each other with actions?

Foolish's death was a collective green kill. Owen could have never pulled it all by himself, and he has acknowledged it. The whole deal worked because Bad knew Foolish loves being entertained, and gave him a reason to talk to Owen about a secret weapon. If Owen had just introduced the idea of Ros being a traitor and try to convince Foolish to follow him 3K blocks of distance, Foolish would probably go but he definitely would warn others about it. And of course, the reason accepted his execution and didn't up a fight against Owen was because Bad and Pangi showed up. If they hadn't showed up, Foolish would have fought Owen and might have won, considering he was higher level and Foolish isn't a bad PVPer himself.

Zam had reasons to suspect the rest of the green team was involved due to Lukey being pulled by a stasis chamber right in front of Zam shortly before Foolish was murdered. Pangi was also there with them, so that left Bad to have been the guy to pull the stasis chamber. Then Aimsey spilled their beans, and green team's involvement was confirmed.

Yellow is much more unified than green, but they're not as cohesive as they look.

Foolish is a being of chaos. While he is a good leader to yellow and is concerned about the faction's standing, he is prone to doing acts without any other purpose or motivation besides raising hell. Specially when it involves Bad. Such situations include for example killing all of Chip's pets and being chased by Bad, and challenging Bad for a duel even though he knew there were no chances of him winning. These actions often puzzle the other yellow members, and specially in the beginning of the Realm they were skeptical that Bad and Foolish were even friends.

Ros has her own very black-and-white and very hypocritical worldview. She often bases her opinions over kills not on why it was committed, but by whom. If they are committed by someone they deem to be "good", the kill is acceptable. If they are committed by someone who they deem to be "bad", the kill is not acceptable. And of course, she is very loyal to yellow. She will never accept a yellow being murdered, even by a friend from another faction.

Sneeg views himself as the protector of yellow. From the beginning he was always very high level, and felt the need to protect the weaker members from attacks from green and red. As is often commented, Sneeg often fails in this mission, and in each yellow killed he feels even more frustrated and bitter over his impotence. One of the first things to happen after the factions were officially created was the honey farm incident, where Sneeg died to a creeper while chasing Pangi. Since then, Sneeg has been collecting L after L in his quest to protect yellow. He has yet to reach catharsis for all of these failures, after all the only time he managed to kill a green was when he accidentally killed Lukey.

Zam is extremely insecure. On his first day on the server, he watched the man who invited him to the Realm be murdered in front of him. And the guy who killed said man was his best friend, Pangi. He was tormented by Bad from the beginning, even though in Bad's view it was all play and he didn't intend on actually killing Zam. He saw Foolish sacrificing one of his lives for Ros (and trying to sacrifice another for Pili), and that gave him a very positive impression of the king. He quickly befriended the king, and then was adopted by him shortly after being formally inducted in the Kingdom of Fools. So yellow gave him a group where he felt he belonged, while green included the guy he was terrified of, his best friend who had killed Pili, and the guy who was romantically interested in his best friend. Zam's hatred against green comes from feeling personally attacked by it. Green is the faction that killed Ros, his friend, and Foolish, his father. And while Ros' death definitely was more of a BadBoyHalo kill, Foolish's death involved other greens besides just the executor Owen.

I'm not gonna go over other members of yellow who either left or aren't that active (like Clown, Pili2, Tina and Tango) because this post is already enormous. I'm sorry if this answer was annoying and I also apologize if I made any grammatical mistake, English is not my first language. Just wanted to give some more context as someone who mainly watches yellow. The Kingdom of Fools is a faction just as complex as the Honey Badgers, even if they have more defined hierarchy.

yellow's attitude of "our kill count doesn't matter" or "our kills are for a good reason and therefore are okay" is getting so frustrating, you must climb down from the moral high horse you sit on before you fall.

Yellow faction versus the horrifying ordeal of accepting responsibility for their actions and the inevitable reactions that follow

According to Newton’s third law, each action has an equal and opposite reaction.

The Triple Threat harassed trRos into trauma and paranoia. Yellow killed Mocha. trPangi killed trRos.

trSneeg says that there should never be a cycle of violence, but he perpetuates the one between Pangi and Pili 2 by carelessly following faction loyalties rather than listening to the newest victim of the trPilis talk about how traumatized and paranoid he has become

trRos kills trLukey on sight and gets upset when people call her a killer. To combat this, she and Sneeg try and kill Lukey again (after Sneeg already killed Lukey)

“Green started it!” “Yellow started it!”

Does it matter who started it when both sides are filled with bad people doing bad things?

Yellow preaches about cycles of violence while actively trying to kill the one guy on Green who hasn’t been violent towards anyone. Why doesn’t anyone from Red want to join their team, they ask, and they refuse to consider the fact that they murdered Red members like Harry simply for being Red, even if they didn’t do anything to anyone but exist.

Murder isn’t justified just because you think it is

tr!sneeg is loyal to a fault

mmm foolish you need to come back comepletely different and change all the bonds of yellow and tajectory of their lives pls 🙏

omg real even if he’s immortal i need him to get bored of the kingdom or some shit and disband it PLEAAASE ,,,,

Ash saying "Yellow seems fickle. They don't know what they're fighting for; they just know who they're fighting against."

bad is soo paranoid, he saw sneeg outside the room, and now he keeps looking around to find him, sneaking so sneeg can't see his nametag and moving around, switching chairs but not exactly sitting on them

sneeg straight up stood near the window and then snuck away (he was under the meeting room outside the whole time el oh el)

yk i love tr!sneeg but also he’s so loyal to a fault that it hurts to see . the blind loyalty and the way he just believes the ones he trusts are always correct in their judgement (cough cough tr!ros) without even trying to form his own opinion on it thats something other than “well my friend wanted my help so i help them” is like . he’s barely his own person ? but also he is ???? like he has his own goals and personality unrelated to the kingdom / his allies . but just the way he handles favors his friends ask of him without asking any questions or looking into the situation neutrally and making his own separate opinion , acting like he has no part of it despite actively helping one side (cough cough . pili 2 with !pangi) , is soooo . idk bro . his character almost seems so shallow with how he barely even tries to come to his own conclusion , and blindly helps the ones he trusts . even if their judgements might be wrong .

dare i say it . calling him the kingdom’s “dog” is . accurate lol . bc thats all he does for the kingdom ; he helps them with their requests . he is a soldier through and through . but why cant he be more than that ? i feel like his loyalty to the kingdom limits his opportunities to be a person .

so yeah anyway this is just me saying that i want tr!sneeg to leave yellow faction and become his Own Guy™ . or for yellow faction / factions in general to dissolve entirely . because his loyalty and unquestioning trust in his allies who have prominent flaws in their thinking , is problematic for everyone around him lowkey . and also i think it’d be fun to see his loyal ties / loyalty be strained :D

(edit: tbf he Does have some lines/boundaries considering what requests his allies ask of him . like if ros wanted him to kill her he would refuse . he’s not That brainless and unquestioning lol — he does this because he cares about their wellbeing . if what they ask goes against their wellbeing , he will not do it . which i love being the protector n all , but my gripe isnt really about that . bc caring about someone mentally means seeing their flaws and either accepting them or doing something about it if the flaw is hurting them and their judgement . and he doesnt do that well . because he’s too trusting)

all im saying is i need tr!sneeg to pull a philza and become the hermit he was meant to be okay

Ash saying "Yellow seems fickle. They don't know what they're fighting for; they just know who they're fighting against."