Gotta love that response from j0hn to somebody calling his boyfriend a whore btw. Not only does he not care he actively encourages it. Vividly imagining some in-universe celebrity gossip rag reporting outlet drumming up a story about Larry having some kind of Scandalous Affair for clicks on their social media and then j0hn showing up in the replies like
behold, a sketch I made when this was posted and never shared
Woe, Dantoinette be upon ye
Never stops being funny to me that the main things that have gotten strong reactions out of the notoriously unsettlingly chill j0hn are as follows:
This is a guy who casually discusses his body being irreparably horrifyingly altered with little regard for his survival as someone 'being a lamo to his whole body' and isnt even particularly venomous to the woman who did it, he just mocks her anime opinions a little and carries on. and by the end of one conversation with crimson it felt like he wanted to bite him
He doesnt even want him dead or anything like hoedown does. He tried to relate to him on the basis of their chaotic natures. he reacts to hoedown saying she wants his head on a pike with 'haha yeah,,' and then after shes walked away is like YEESH about it but good god he just gets under his skin so goddamn quickly. Something about crimson just pisses him off and its so entertaining i need to see more of them being insufferably catty with eachother
Never stops being funny to me that the main things that have gotten strong reactions out of the notoriously unsettlingly chill j0hn are as follows:
This is a guy who casually discusses his body being irreparably horrifyingly altered with little regard for his survival as someone 'being a lamo to his whole body' and isnt even particularly venomous to the woman who did it, he just mocks her anime opinions a little and carries on. and by the end of one conversation with crimson it felt like he wanted to bite him
Never stops being funny to me that the main things that have gotten strong reactions out of the notoriously unsettlingly chill j0hn are as follows:
I think its interesting that while theres no discernible reason the gods would or should need to eat or drink (frankly i think you could give any one of them a flagon of everclear to chug and they'd feel nothing on account of not having blood to intoxicate, its all a sensory experience for them, so like theyd still probably choke on it because it tastes fucking awful but,) all of them do, but crimson especially so. Loves food. Between dubious pizza and making fucking mac and cheese and being very comfortable despite full consciousness of it being disgusting admitting to having eaten things off the floor (specifically seeing a soda get poured out and responding, paraphrased, 'eh, wouldn't be the worst thing i ate off the floor' to Spriteman's disgusted 'and you're PROUD of that?') and the following:
My take is that, given the gods' natural state is sort of abstract as seen in crimson's depiction at one point as 'an imbalance of red' in spectrum's hues, that crimson only really gets to eat when he has a physical form. so when he's corporeal (whether that be because he's got his own physically manifested body for the time being or because he's possessing some poor bastard,) he indulges himself until he's either had his fill or he's made his host sick, whether that be from overeating or a sensitivity like crimsonaut's lactose intolerance. Unless the gods actually DO need to eat for some reason, (which has. Potentially darker implications. for this behavior of his.) theres no other immediately obvious reason to me for Crimson to behave as though food insecurity is a legitimate concern for him by doing things like caching thanksgiving sides in offscreen secret hiding places except that he just really really enjoys it. and doesnt want to risk losing access to it because getting to eat is like. a Special Occasion for it.
On the opposite end of the food issues spectrum we have Dani apparently partaking in restrictive dieting- girl what the HELL do you MEAN youre CUTTING CARBS you're an ATHLETE are you trying to pass out on stage like Larry???
Im still hung up on this btw like forget the broxas incident this is the real evidence that dani's perfectionism is self-destructive and irrational to me girl what do you MEANNNNN
But to address a tag-
while Some of that can definitely be attributed to chartreuse never needing to eat or sleep before i think the nutter butters thing and the sleepless week is more indicative of the somewhat common phenomenon of 'leaving an abusive situation and then immediately crashing and burning psychologically from the stress of finally cutting yourself free.' Because chartreuse definitely ate recreationally even before casting off her godhood- after her and folk's big argument over Chartreuse not being transparent with him about things that could or will effect him and his home, theyre described as having spaghetti dinner together, and chartreuse is apparently pretty good at making mashed potatoes! So not only does she eat but she eats often enough that she knows how to cook basic foods well!
I think its interesting that while theres no discernible reason the gods would or should need to eat or drink (frankly i think you could give any one of them a flagon of everclear to chug and they'd feel nothing on account of not having blood to intoxicate, its all a sensory experience for them, so like theyd still probably choke on it because it tastes fucking awful but,) all of them do, but crimson especially so. Loves food. Between dubious pizza and making fucking mac and cheese and being very comfortable despite full consciousness of it being disgusting admitting to having eaten things off the floor (specifically seeing a soda get poured out and responding, paraphrased, 'eh, wouldn't be the worst thing i ate off the floor' to Spriteman's disgusted 'and you're PROUD of that?') and the following:
My take is that, given the gods' natural state is sort of abstract as seen in crimson's depiction at one point as 'an imbalance of red' in spectrum's hues, that crimson only really gets to eat when he has a physical form. so when he's corporeal (whether that be because he's got his own physically manifested body for the time being or because he's possessing some poor bastard,) he indulges himself until he's either had his fill or he's made his host sick, whether that be from overeating or a sensitivity like crimsonaut's lactose intolerance. Unless the gods actually DO need to eat for some reason, (which has. Potentially darker implications. for this behavior of his.) theres no other immediately obvious reason to me for Crimson to behave as though food insecurity is a legitimate concern for him by doing things like caching thanksgiving sides in offscreen secret hiding places except that he just really really enjoys it. and doesnt want to risk losing access to it because getting to eat is like. a Special Occasion for it.
On the opposite end of the food issues spectrum we have Dani apparently partaking in restrictive dieting- girl what the HELL do you MEAN youre CUTTING CARBS you're an ATHLETE are you trying to pass out on stage like Larry???
I think its interesting that while theres no discernible reason the gods would or should need to eat or drink (frankly i think you could give any one of them a flagon of everclear to chug and they'd feel nothing on account of not having blood to intoxicate, its all a sensory experience for them, so like theyd still probably choke on it because it tastes fucking awful but,) all of them do, but crimson especially so. Loves food. Between dubious pizza and making fucking mac and cheese and being very comfortable despite full consciousness of it being disgusting admitting to having eaten things off the floor (specifically seeing a soda get poured out and responding, paraphrased, 'eh, wouldn't be the worst thing i ate off the floor' to Spriteman's disgusted 'and you're PROUD of that?') and the following:
My take is that, given the gods' natural state is sort of abstract as seen in crimson's depiction at one point as 'an imbalance of red' in spectrum's hues, that crimson only really gets to eat when he has a physical form. so when he's corporeal (whether that be because he's got his own physically manifested body for the time being or because he's possessing some poor bastard,) he indulges himself until he's either had his fill or he's made his host sick, whether that be from overeating or a sensitivity like crimsonaut's lactose intolerance. Unless the gods actually DO need to eat for some reason, (which has. Potentially darker implications. for this behavior of his.) theres no other immediately obvious reason to me for Crimson to behave as though food insecurity is a legitimate concern for him by doing things like caching thanksgiving sides in offscreen secret hiding places except that he just really really enjoys it. and doesnt want to risk losing access to it because getting to eat is like. a Special Occasion for it.
Gotta love that response from j0hn to somebody calling his boyfriend a whore btw. Not only does he not care he actively encourages it. Vividly imagining some in-universe celebrity gossip rag reporting outlet drumming up a story about Larry having some kind of Scandalous Affair for clicks on their social media and then j0hn showing up in the replies like
but enough spitballing counterfactual timelines im interested in OUR version of events. And in OUR version of events I like to think this happened
(Immediate aftermath of the escape from the majestic universe)
(Not Pictured: the new guys from the majestic kerfuffle having no context for how weird this is and thinking 'aw they must be close :]' while the kerfuffle oldheads are dutifully averting their eyes because if any of them bring this up to dani or crimson later they know they'll get hunted for sport. which is why Larry is probably covertly trying to get a picture without them noticing)
bad au ideas: everything's the same except Team Crimson was sort of a Shark Tale situation
In my defense, firstly i phrased this in the silliest way possible because i thought it was funny, secondly i didnt mention crimtoinette at all, and thirdly this idea isnt actually new! Around the end of season two when crimson's character was being reinterpreted in response to the introduction of chartreuse, it was playfully proposed at one point that Dani's betrayal was actually staged as a means of giving Crimson an out after he'd done his job of scaring mortals away from fucking around with dimensional travel. Now, that doesnt easily scan now but at the time there wasnt really anything to clearcut to logically refute it. Theres a reason i called it an AU idea.
Anyhow, the timeline here would therefore lay as follows:
Like i said, au where everything is the same, except.........
bad au ideas: everything's the same except Team Crimson was sort of a Shark Tale situation
In my defense, firstly i phrased this in the silliest way possible because i thought it was funny, secondly i didnt mention crimtoinette at all, and thirdly this idea isnt actually new! Around the end of season two when crimson's character was being reinterpreted in response to the introduction of chartreuse, it was playfully proposed at one point that Dani's betrayal was actually staged as a means of giving Crimson an out after he'd done his job of scaring mortals away from fucking around with dimensional travel. Now, that doesnt easily scan now but at the time there wasnt really anything to clearcut to logically refute it. Theres a reason i called it an AU idea.
considering j0hn and larry's modifications seemed to be kind of 'exploratory' in terms of how they were relevant to Order's studies, and j0hn has features from Order's tampering which go on to sort of be iterated on with the clonebot line of experiments, i think the mach line was meant to be something similar for the type of modifications larry has, but she struggled to recreate what Larry's got going on in the same way. Machiavelli, an ultimate lifeform, the Ultimate Fighter, is described as being built to learn and adapt, even physically, to copy new opponents strengths to use against them, which is the explanation for his kirby copy ability- and presumably also like, his down b where he turns to stone/metal and comes crashing down- he's a copycat learning machine, whose form can change in a seemingly limited (although whether thats a hard limitation or simply a hurdle he hasnt gotten over yet is unclear,) way to facilitate adapting new techniques. This is an ability which mach 2 appears to entirely lack, which may be part of why Order had such disdain for him as a 'failed successor.'
Most of this assumption comes from kirby copy ability and also this bit where Machi thinks Larry wouldve been a better fit to be the ultimate fighter because he's shifty 'all the time,' implying thats something that wouldve been desirable in achieving the goal he was designed for as the Ultimate Fighter™.
Of course this implies the psychic powers were maybe a happy accident. which is very funny
considering j0hn and larry's modifications seemed to be kind of 'exploratory' in terms of how they were relevant to Order's studies, and j0hn has features from Order's tampering which go on to sort of be iterated on with the clonebot line of experiments, i think the mach line was meant to be something similar for the type of modifications larry has, but she struggled to recreate what Larry's got going on in the same way. Machiavelli, an ultimate lifeform, the Ultimate Fighter, is described as being built to learn and adapt, even physically, to copy new opponents strengths to use against them, which is the explanation for his kirby copy ability- and presumably also like, his down b where he turns to stone/metal and comes crashing down- he's a copycat learning machine, whose form can change in a seemingly limited (although whether thats a hard limitation or simply a hurdle he hasnt gotten over yet is unclear,) way to facilitate adapting new techniques. This is an ability which mach 2 appears to entirely lack, which may be part of why Order had such disdain for him as a 'failed successor.'
Most of this assumption comes from kirby copy ability and also this bit where Machi thinks Larry wouldve been a better fit to be the ultimate fighter because he's shifty 'all the time,' implying thats something that wouldve been desirable in achieving the goal he was designed for as the Ultimate Fighter™.
