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this desk set wants to fly

@neil-kinnie / neil-kinnie.tumblr.com

mostly dead poets society & the hunger games - she/her - minor - swiftie & lana del rey fan!

rough lil essay on why i think canon charlie would be an english teacher!

i think charlie had a stronger bond with mr. keating than people tend to realize. like when the boys first met keating and he was mocking pritchard, you can see charlie's eyes kinda light up and he's thinking "ok this guy's actually cool". keating became a huge guiding light for all of the boys, but imo especially charlie, i think in general he really looked up to keating, especially because both of them were seen as troublemakers in school.

charlie was also already really angry at cameron for betraying them, but what really pushed him over the edge was when cam blamed keating for neil's death. because he understood that what keating really did was help neil live for the first time in his life.

when keating was fired and charlie was expelled, i like to imagine that charlie wouldn't have given up on neil and keating's legacy of "seizing the day". he's already disappointed his parents, so he stops pursuing the career they wanted for him. instead, he decides to become an english teacher to carry on keating's work and try to inspire future generations, hopefully with a better outcome.

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The other poets shipping Neil and Todd:

Just this entire scene, trying to be there for Todd while he’s grieving. Charlie saying “leave him be” is making me want to jump out of a window. Also, when Todd says “It’s so beautiful” idk why but I feel like he’s talking abt Neil OR he’s prob getting flash backs to that one deleted scene. I’m prob just being stupid tho.

Mr. Keating looking at Todd while Neil is giving his performance. He just knew tbh. Mr Keating Supremacy 🛐 Todd was also mouthing all the lines during this scene which just makes my heart explode every time.

Meeks looking over to these two while Knox was being a little simp for Chris. I keep seeing everyone make Charlie the #1 anderperry shipper, I personally do not agree w this 😭. Meeks would def the officiant at their wedding. (Neil didn’t die wtaf are you on.)

Not a shipping moment, but I just wanna say that no one in this fandom can tell me that Todd wasn’t making sure he looked good for Neil. HE WAS.

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someone (I'm not sure if they'd like to be tagged so I won't do that for now) suggested that I write a text to neil perry, and I love that idea. it must be very therapeutic

hi neil. I like you a lot. please hang out with me 🥹 we will have so much fun, I promise! we can have deep conversations or laugh until we cry. we can read poetry and have a picnic and collect flowers. we can listen to music while lying on the floor and staring at the ceiling without saying anything but occasionally singing along to the music. we can bake cupcakes and go to the theatre. we can visit libraries and antique shops. we can peek into each other's worlds, even for a short while. there's so many things I'd like to do with you. – todd

awww 🥹🥹🥹

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I’ve never had a character death hit me this hard and I’ve never seen people collectively grieve a character this much. Like it’s genuinely fascinating to me that this many people couldn’t accept Neil’s death after watching . It’s genius and I think there’s so many things that made his death to have the affect on the audience that it did. The fact that he was so happy and confident. The fact that he had the courage to participate in the play despite what his dad thought. The fact that he was so passionate about acting . The fact that everyone appeared, and that everyone was proud of him(except his father). The way his father spoke to him afterwards felt so cruel, despite how amazing he was. The fact that his suicide felt so sudden, and so brutal,and so avoidable. The fact that it happened even tho he did well. That the best day of his life turned into his worst and then his last. Or maybe it was everything afterwards, the boys, all as young as. Neil, having to tell their friend he died like that. That Mr Perry couldn’t see that he was in the wrong and blamed the only people who really gave Neil a feeling of comfort and freedom. Maybe it was because we had to watch all of them go thru so much grief. Maybe it was seeing Neil’s mattress and desk completely bare for the rest of the film. Maybe because everything just fell apart after him. Maybe because it all felt so unjust by the end. Maybe because even at the end, where there was a feeling of joy, it still felt bleak; because there was no way for things to be the same , and it all still felt bleak.

Maybe we just wanted them to have a future. Maybe because they resonated too much with us. Maybe we just wanted hope, for them, and for us.

There’s so many things I could’ve mentioned that just added onto the things this movie made me feel. no wonder it’s a classic

I’m telling you this exact moment is where they both KNEW (ik you can see it in this scene but I paused on todd right at this second and his face is different from any other moment, there’s like a look in his eyes)

it’s like todd is almost saying “do you mean what I think you mean”

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“don’t you forget this.”

i truly don’t think that our fandom talks nearly enough about mr keating and todd’s relationship. i’ll seriously never get enough of the ‘teacher who does everything to help a student they see potential in” trope. like the todd we see entering welton is not the same todd we see in the last frame of the film. and it’s definitely keating who was the main contributor to this beautiful change in him. he was the first adult to ever look at todd in the eye and say “i see you, kid.” the first adult to ever make an effort to make him feel seen. the first teacher to step out of conformities and to be more than a teacher to his boys. todd being the first to stand up to salute to him and overcoming his anxiety doing it in front of his class, he’s going to keep growing from there, growing into the person keating would have wanted him to be over time. even if keating wouldn’t be there to watch it all happen. he’d always be there in todd’s heart, a part of him instilled in the adolescent boy always.

anyways heyyy to my non-existent followers ,, i’ll maybe do an intro post if this one is well received..

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I've never actually watched all of Dead Poets Society, even though I constantly reference it. I finally watched it last night.

My thoughts are as follows!

  1. If there was any movie that described my childhood, this would be it. I will not be elaborating.
  2. I love Todd Anderson more than words can describe (Unrelated side note, he and Neil were fucking for sure).
  3. We didn't really get very much characterization for Todd? At the end of the movie, after the big twist, he seems to take the role of the main character, even though he hasn't really done much throughout the film, other than exchange sexually charged eye contact with Neil.
  4. @sallymew4 we are adding this to the list.
  5. Controversial spoilered thoughts:
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neil and todd are the kinda guys to have the "youve never kissed anyone before" convo, and then "teach eachother" how to kiss.

A buddy encouraged my delusions so I come to talk about the TBOSAS movie. Specifically about a scene that made me want to crawl up the walls the first time I saw it: Reaper's death

And do you know why I wanted to crawl on the walls? Because at the moment I saw that scene, I was sure that I had read something in the book that was not the same, but at least quite similar. After rereading the story, it hit me: Reaper Ash's death in the movie has something in common with Sejanus Plinth's death in Snow's nightmare

If you haven't read the book, I introduced to you some vital information. First you must know Reaper's death in the movie does not occur in the same way as in the book (in short he was one of Lucy Gray's victims poisoning the water and not Drill) and second Coriolanus Snow has a nightmare after sending the tape with Sejanus's confession in the book

(Credits to @sejanusarchive for the capture)

While it is possible that the death of Reaper that we see in the movie is reminiscent of the deaths of other tributes who lost their lives during this incident in the book, I find a few details between this scene and the one about Dream Sejanus dying that make them quite similar

The position and acts that provoke the arrival of snakes are some of them. First Sejanus is kneeling in front of Marcus's corpse, scattering breadcrumbs. It is a recreation of the first great act of defiance that Sejanus commits against the Capitol: honoring a dead boy, trying to remind the audience that who has died was a human being

A child no less

The chair incident and the long debates that Sejanus held before were provocative acts but could still be excused and explained under something beyond pure and simple rebellion, however his entrance into the arena cannot be classified as anything other than a direct challenge to the Capitol. It is also a self-destructive act, something of which Sejanus is aware

The aid to the rebels and the plan to flee north that Coriolanus ratted out to Dr. Gaul (the punisher, judge of acts that attempt to destroy the foundations of her worldview) is another act of defiance that Sejanus commits and Coriolanus's guilty conscience inevitably leads him to dream of that first great offense that Sejanus committed and this tome the snakes attack him for his actions

In the film this occurs most directly with Reaper, who defied the Capitol by honoring the dead. After Drill breathes her last breath, Reaper clearly goes into an altered emotional state, having lost his district mate, a frail and sickly girl he has tried to care for. He has failed and he could have done many things but he decides that he will give a strong message to the audience that knows is watching them

He plans as Sejanus to restore humanity and dignity to these corpses. He forms them one by one, so that it is clearly seen that they are children who have died and covers them with the flag, to provoke reactions from the indifferent public who have allowed this to happen in the first place

Reaper knows this act will bring about his own destruction. He knows he will be punished for what he did but he does not shy away from his fate, he even demands it and his defiance provokes fury in Gaul who drops a rainbow of death on him and I want to note that Reaper was also kneeling in front of dead bodies, when the snakes attack at him

And something I really find fascinating is what witnessing these deaths does to their witnesses. For as much fury as the spectators felt at the falling flag, they were forced to acknowledge, if only for a brief moment, that they (as Capitol citizens who never protested against the games) had condemned children to death

In the same way that dream forced Snow to recognize that despite his fury at Sejanus lies and secrets. That despite him ignoring his warning, the truth is that when Coriolanus send that jabberjay with the confession. He condemned a child to death

Also something something Sejanus screaming in the end. How he die by his own month from Coriolanus perspective by defend the districts. Something something Reaper dying in SILENCE. How he die by his own actions that speak for him and show his defense of the districts

I just noticed something…when todd stands on keatings desk to “look at things in a different way” keating turns the lights out halfway through. neil was todds light that helped him look at things in a different way, and be a more confident person, so i guess this foreshadows how when he starts to do this by the end of the film, his light is turned out and he’s left alone and in the dark to continue to be this new person…

my little analysis about neil's thought process in the end of the movie

in the beginning keating told the poets that poetry, beauty, romance and love are what we stay alive for and the powerful play goes on and each person could contribute a verse.

i mean, when he got the role, neil had practically been acting as a dutiful son his whole life but he broke out of that mould for a few weeks and he was puck, the mischievous fairy. his verse was rebelling against those who told him to choose practicality over passion, and to follow his dreams.

but in the end, dreams aren't always real and neil's monologue to his father didn't work. when his father chose to essentially cut off neil's access to poetry, love and beauty, neil probably decided that he would rather go out having passion than watch himself lose the light in his eyes each day. he would rather die than live a life without passion.

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