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when i see (mostly cis) progressives talk about abortion rights, they'll sometimes mention trans men (or anyone who isn't a cis perisex woman) in passing but then IMMEDIATELY go back to using language doesn't include anyone who isn't a cis perisex woman. this is not good enough. you *need* to change your language around abortion rights (and anything considered womens health in general.). don't just mention us once in a while. your exclusion of us in your advocacy *literally* kills.

"Stealth trans men have privilege over cis women" worstie that is not correct

how would a guy who is correctly recognized as male in every aspect of his life, to the point he navigates the world identically to a cis man and cannot be recognized as trans by others unless he discloses it, not have privilege over women - cis or otherwise? is systemic misogyny just not real to you. are you somehow misunderstanding what "stealth" means. this is such a confusing assertion.

Well you said it yourself - "navigates the world identically to a cis man". Trans men do not do this, and cannot do this, by nature of being trans. There is always some aspect which separates the experiences of trans men with cis men, even if the trans men themselves are stealth.

For example, a trans man who has had all of the surgeries and all of the hormones and all the legal document changes still

1. Had to live a life experience before all of that happened, and unless they never interacted with anyone ever, there runs the risk of people from their past outing them.

2. In that same vein, can never talk about their foundational experiences growing up unless they heavily bend the truth or lie (or unless they transitioned at, like, 3 months old??)

3. Still had to go through the surgeries, which is accessing a medical system, which may or may not have discriminated against them for being trans (rather than privileging them for being a man)

4. Some countries, like mine for example, keep a record of your name change on your birth certificate, so even if I had all the legal and physical changes, having to provide proof of citizenship would immediately out me. In a similar vein, to prevent fraud, many government organisations ask if you have ever been known by any other names. This outs people immediately.

5. Again, with medical care, you would need to provide a list of your medical history to your practitioner, which would out you

6. Most trans guys that pass are still on testosterone, they do not stop it. This is another area where trans men may be discriminated against - for example right now in the US they are trying really fucking hard to ban HRT. Some insurance companies won't approve of prescriptions because of the nature of the prescription. This is not a privilege

Not all trans men who are stealth have had all or any surgeries (like myself). This means:

1. I can still get pregnant and need care for that, which outs me, and opens me up to discrimination cis men would never face

2. I have to piss sitting down, because I can't afford an STP + packing underwear. I know this isn't a huge deal bc I know some cis men pee sitting too, but if you're in an area where people are constantly transvestigated or just a transphobic area, this may cause problems.

3. I can't wear certain shirts or tops because my binder will show. I can't go swimming. Tell me how that's a privilege lmao

4. When accessing medical care, I put myself at serious risk for transphobic treatment and harassment to the point where it might even be life ending - people may not do their proper duty because I am trans, and therefore something important may be missed that could risk my life

5. There is very little research about trans men's bodies and how things interact with testosterone HRT and other such things. For example, the symptoms of a heart attack look different for cis women and cis men. What do they look like for trans men 8 years on HRT? Do you know? No, seriously, do you know? I need to know this. I have a history of heart failure in my family.

Like I won't deny that stealth trans men can recieve social benefits/privileges when people misread them as cis men. I should know, I pass pretty fucking well all things considered. It's really weird when people talk to me when a woman I'm with has asked a question. However that is not the same as real systemic privileges, because at almost every turn interacting with systems throughout our lives, we will be outed or open to discrimination.

On top of that, even though I am stealth, as soon as people find out I'm trans, that privilege disappears immediately.

I don't think it's a privelige to also never be able to talk about my childhood or my experiences as a trans person. I don't think it's a privelige to have to hide a part of myself and my identity for safety.

To put this another way, do you think bisexual people have straight privelige because they can date someone of a different gender and never talk about their queer identity? Or is that just being trapped into hiding who you are? Is that different for stealth trans men?

“Hozier is a lesbian” “Hozier is a man written by a woman” “Hozier is like if a man was raised by lesbian mothers” “Hozier is like if a man was a woman” quick give me one reason why a man can’t be soft and gentle and poetic and in love without sounding like a terf or a misogynist

“They’re written by a woman” “they’re written by a man” is just another way gen z has reinvented gender norms but make it cool and edgy and a little queer and hopefully no one will notice that they’ve reinvented gender norms and actually are misogynistic

What if we stopped acknowledging their pet word 'transmisogyny?'

What if we went back to 'transphobic' and 'misogynist' to describe transmasculine and transfeminine and nonbinary experiences of bigotry?

Their word is needlessly exclusionary. Let it die.

op, this isn't a productive line of thinking. also transmisogynistic. if it's transphobic to say transmascs aren't allowed a word, its also transphobic to say the same of transfems. we are ALL allowed to define our experiences.

“darkwoke take: transmascs deserve to get murdered” do you fucking hear yourself. what the fuck is darkwoke. how is that woke in any way

Casual intersexism is the entries for "SAFAB" and "SAMAB" across all LGBTQI wikis reading as "self-assigned [fe/male] at birth" and intersex erasure is when it never mentions surgical, saying it is "a term is most often used by intersex people, however it is not exclusive to them" without mentioning WHY it's most often used by intersex individuals (both are exclusive and coined by intersex individuals FOR intersex individuals)

Listen to intersex people

Comments:

People: yo why do we forget that straight trans guys exist

Dumb people: WHAT DO YOU THINK THE T IN LGBT STANDS FOR?? YOU SHOULD LEARN HOW TO READ

People: That‘s not what I me-

Dumb people: omg is it really that big of a deal????

YES IS FUCKING IS. Hyperinvisibility and erasure of trans men IS a big deal.

Reposting here in honor of this song finally officially coming out on March 29

I'll straight-up come out and say it; rape with subsequential forced impregnation is the worst thing that could happen to a person. It is life-ruining and traumatising in so many different ways. I can't believe this is even a point of contention anymore.

If you see a trans man talking about his fear of being forced into pregnancy and your response is "b-but muh feelings!" you should genuinely just throw yourself off the nearest bridge because you are an actual waste of oxygen.

It is absolutely not bigoted to discuss the fear of something like that happening, and if you consider it to be, then you clearly don't care about any rape victims at all and have no place calling yourself a feminist.

I know I've said this before but I really don't think constantly talking about trans women & fems who are assholes to other trans people is productive. it's fine to call out behavior that sucks but I don't think only focusing on that is going to do much besides further radicalize the people you're talking about

it also waters down our terms to internet discourse and makes it harder to talk about bigger, life-threatening issues. if someone is curious about what issues we face and when they try to look into it all they see is people complaining about trans women & fems it's kind of understandable to see all of us as reactionaries tbh

I get it's easier to talk about intra-community issues. a leaky pipe in your house is always going to suck. but it's kind of like only complaining about the leaky pipe and your plumber during a flood. it's fine to talk about the leaky pipe but we should focus on the bigger problem here

Viewing trans men and transmascs as "safe versions" of men, or Men Lite is just as harmful and bigoted as standard transphobia that people like Rowling or Walsh push.

we need more trans men in stem we need more trans men in humanities we need more trans men in the arts we need more trans men in trades we need more trans men everywhere and anywhere and we need to celebrate every single trans man who chooses himself over being a sacrificial lamb for cisfeminist narratives. go make that hrt appointment, boy, you do not fucking need to suffer in silence because you don't want to be "just another man in ___" you are not betraying anyone. cisfeminists betray you when they treat your existence like a symbol instead of a fellow person.

Here's an interesting tidbit from an upcoming textbook, that I came across when researching stuff.

Note that this is only about SGMM (sexual and gender minority men) so these numbers are strictly trans men/mascs. Absolutely vile that they don't even let these guys wear the most basic of clothing (boxers and binders), and force them to shower with cis men, where they're going to be at an incredibly high risk of violence.

Not to mention ignoring medical advice from doctors, because they don't feel like showing compassion to their fellow men.

The entire chapter is a good read, but it's very theory heavy, and expects the reader to have an understanding of typical second year theory. But, worth a read none the less.

So placing inmates based on gender identity rather than biological sex has resulted in female people being placed in incredibly dangerous situations in male prisons? Shocking

So fucking stupid how TERFs Will hear about trans guys getting raped and sexually abused and assaulted, and will immediately argue how they’re in the right for being transphobic predatory shitheads instead of “supporting females” like they always say they do. Imagine getting raped and your friend saying “see, told you that you shouldn’t have dressed like that” that’s what you bitches are doing. Terfism roots from misogyny. And guess what dumb bitch? Trans men are more oppressed in female prisons, cause prisons are a tool and always have been a tool of oppression. What this prison is doing is punishing trans men by shaming them in front of other inmates and forcing alienation and discomfort. The argument shouldn’t be about “we should put trans guys in x prison” it should be ”why do we use shitty oppressive systems like prisons”. You guys empower these systems with your useless gender prison arguments, which in turn hurts women and gives space to even more cop rape by letting them “check genitals” on innmates

until anti-transandrophobia motherfuckers stop saying 'cafabs have privilege and camabs are oppressed', i will never be taking them remotely seriously. thats my new ground rule.

If you've ever even reblogged someone who's said something similar, you can never come up to me and say 'youre a terf who believes in sex-based oppression' without me laughing you off the face of the planet.