Remold's Dilemma
text to speech AI voice for those who don't want to read all this (music by Mackeerre).
The Abbot.
Throughout the prophecy we keep being told “the Abbot, will know”. So let’s start with who the Abbot is. Its the “Fiddler”. You know, the character at the end of all the credits, who stands there in a temple with a mosaic of the prophecy of “the rising three” behind her (I'm a little embarrassed that it took me so long to figure that one out.)
First part of Horse's prophecy.
“Thine faeder, laid bare... desiccated on the rocks, by thy hand... the Abbot, will know”.
This refers to Door. Laid bare. Is him being exposed, maybe his anti-explosion suit is destroyed. Desiccated on the rocks, most likely him being drained of his blood by a vampire, the rock being an altar, Door could be part of a sacrifice. or maybe in a fight he suffers an explosion, bleeding under the rubble, perhaps losing a hand, like in the mosaic. By thy hand... the Abbot, will know. For the longest time I thought these things would be Boy's fault, that he would be responsible for this incident. But the ellipsis are just a pause in the sentence, By thy hand the Abbot, will know. Boy is the one who will inform the Abbot, perhaps so she can save Door.
Second part of Horse's prophecy.
“Of two, one falls... one rises. Damnation. The third eye opens. His suet will feed and warm her gullet. The Abbot, will know”.
The two being, Marckus and Kitten. one falls... one rises. The best bet is, Marckus falling off the path of the Mage, and instead making a deal with the “Thing” from 18 years ago, perhaps to have the power to save one of the Hunters. About Kitten. I have the impression that he was the "runt of the litter" among his siblings. But with Big D's training, Kitten will rise to lead the hunters'. The third eye opens. probably referring to the powers Marckus will obtain. His suet will feed and warm her gullet. I'm betting on that being Kitten. His first experience with the supernatural, was with a Nagaraja devouring someone. So it would be thematic for him to relive this event.
Third part of Horse's prophecy.
“The patriarch, in mastering luna, ends hamstrung... he will wish death upon his flesh... but no mercy shall be given, for none he hath gave”.
Who else would be the Patriarch besides the Big Daddy? (Door doesn't count, because he's already going to be desiccated, give the guy a break.) Mastering luna, is referring to Big D greatest achievements, gathering of knowledge and victory over the world of darkness. Ends hamstrung. Is about him getting incapacitated (we are getting golden throne part 2).
Ok. I know people have “strong opinions” about TTS theories, but hear me out for a moment. To begin with, the story is always trying to incapacitate him from the action. Two. The prophetic dream with the Blue Man warns him of change, of growth, of the world of the fathers becoming the world of the sons. And you heard the tantrum Big D had with Marckus at the end of the Vampiric Powers Audiology. So only with him paralyzed, is that the sons will be able to follow their own paths. And last. Before Horse begins to tell the prophecy. Boy has a vision of the future, where he sees Big D with his other sons in kitten's house. I envision the other sons coming to check on his health, or to help with the rest of the mission on his instead.
He will wish death upon his flesh. Even with the idea of him not being able to fight the supernatural anymore, him wishing for death, doesn't seem like the Big D we're used to. So much so that I wondered if flash doesn't have another meaning here. Like when parents refer to their children as their own flesh and blood. However, this idea does not fit with the next part. But no mercy shall be given, for none he hath gave. I know most people dismiss this part of the prophecy to be referring to Big D, since he showed Kevin mercy, but I believe it refers to a specific person in the past that he did not show mercy to.
One part that I don't see being discussed, is the missing of the phrase: the Abbot, will know. This is repeated throughout the prophecy, with only its absence being here. Perhaps implying that the Abbot will be the one responsible for this event.
Final part of Horse's prophecy.
“The rising three shall signal wars end. Woe and triumph. The Abbot, will know”.
“From them... bloodshed. Armageddon for all. Kine, Kindred, Garou, Milklings, Elohim. In the light, they all will (the prophecy is cut off)”.
To begin with, I think this part of the prophecy is backwards. It doesn't make sense to have Armageddon after the end of the war. One of the rising three will be Marckus or Kitten, depending on what vision you have for the second part of the prophecy. From them... bloodshed. Armageddon for all. I see this part implying that the Rising three will be responsible for starting Armageddon. Either by drawing first blood or by being injured themselves. After that, Horse reveals the members of this war, they being: humans, vampires, werewolves, changelings and/or demons and angels. Interesting that he refers to humans and changelings with derogatory terms. In the light, they all will. Fall? Be exposed? Anyway. I believe that light is a metaphor, for knowledge and revelation. Implying the end of their secrecy.
The end (finally).
So. What do you think? Do you have any theories, opinions, corrections or feelings about Horse's prophecy? in any case thank for hearing my rambling.
I made this post a few days ago on reddit and since then I've wanted to add a few things. I'd swap out "Fiddler" for "Black Hood Monk" (the figure that Embraces Fiddler). I'd point out that this prophecy starts with Boy seeing his family in a pool of blood and continues with Horse telling about his family and the blood that will be spilled. And last. I believe that “mastering Luna” refers to his knowledge and achievements in the “world of darkness” especially with the factor that we always see (regardless of the passing of days) the red full moon as a symbolic reminder of what world we are in.