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so I’m starting to see more of this again…

um first of all it was clear Reiner had a split personality (soldier/warrior) so Bertholdt had to remind him that HE IS NOT A SOLDIER HE IS A WARRIOR! A WARRIOR GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL! “Verbally abusing” my guy… most of the seasons bertholdt didn’t talk til last episodes of s2 and first few episodes of s3.

even a friend of mine explains it better🙄👎

anyways, pls understand bert’s character before hating on him👋😭 matter of fact just leave him alone if you hate him that much then fine but don’t be bad mouthing him. Reminder Bertholdt Hoover is an animated character A FICTIONAL CHARACTER!! So to be saying these things is wild, especially saying kill, torture because I have seen those haters day rhat about bertl. Bertholdt is not an abuser. Reiner was not being abused, it was his split personality cause from Marcel’s death as well. Bertholdt did not support Marley’s cause. He was a child brainwashed, only a child to help his father who sadly passed away after bertholdt’s desth (I forgot).

He also said he considered the scouts as his comrades, a true marleyan would not consider them as friends more, just distant themselves from the “devil island”

and now this…get ready

1. Bertholdt Did Not Abuse Reiner

The post states that Bertholdt “constantly abused” Reiner and “verbally abused him” whenever Reiner acted in a way he disliked. However, throughout the series, Bertholdt is portrayed as reserved, passive, and hesitant to express strong emotions, let alone be abusive. If anything, Bertholdt often follows Reiner’s lead.

• Bertholdt never physically or verbally abuses Reiner.

• On the contrary, he is often shown supporting Reiner despite his worsening mental state.

• The only time Bertholdt speaks harshly to Reiner is when he confronts him about his dissociation between his Warrior and Soldier personas—something Bertholdt does out of fear and concern, not malice.

2. Bertholdt Was Not Dismissive of Reiner’s Issues

The claim that Bertholdt was “completely dismissive of Reiner’s issues” is false. Bertholdt acknowledges Reiner’s mental struggles multiple times. However, Bertholdt himself is also struggling with guilt and fear, making him less equipped to provide emotional support.

• In Season 2, Episode 10 (“Children”), Bertholdt directly admits to being terrified of their mission and hints at the trauma they both carry.

• Instead of dismissing Reiner, Bertholdt passively goes along with Reiner’s dual identities, likely because he doesn’t know how to help.

3. Bertholdt and Reiner’s Dynamic Was Built on Mutual Dependence

Rather than a toxic or abusive relationship, Bertholdt and Reiner rely on each other heavily as fellow Warriors sent on a mission that has taken a heavy toll on their mental health.

• Reiner is the dominant force between them, and Bertholdt often follows his lead.

• However, Bertholdt does not reject Reiner or treat him with cruelty—he stays by his side until the very end.

• In Season 3, Episode 16, Bertholdt even expresses that he considers Reiner a close friend, despite everything.

4. Bertholdt Did Care for Reiner and Arguably Comforted Him

While Bertholdt is emotionally reserved, that does not mean he never supported or cared for Reiner.

• His loyalty to Reiner is evident, as he sticks by him even after their mission becomes increasingly dire.

• In their final moments together, Bertholdt still considers Reiner his friend, despite their impending doom.

Conclusion: The Post Misrepresents Bertholdt and the Relationship

The idea that Bertholdt was an abusive, unsupportive figure to Reiner is unfounded. Their relationship is built on camaraderie, shared trauma, and reliance rather than toxicity. Bertholdt was not a cruel figure in Reiner’s life—if anything, Reiner was the more dominant, forceful one between the two.

1. Marley ≠ Nazi Germany

Marley is not a one-to-one representation of Nazi Germany. The show’s world-building draws inspiration from multiple historical events and regimes, but it is not meant to be a direct allegory.

• Marley is an imperialist power, not a fascist state like Nazi Germany. It has been at war with multiple nations for centuries, using Eldians as expendable weapons.

Calling Bertholdt and Reiner “Nazi soldiers” is an oversimplification that ignores the show’s deeper themes of manipulation, war propaganda, and moral struggle. They were victims of a larger imperial system, not willing participants in genocide. Using such comparisons is misleading and trivializes real-world history.

I hope this LONG EXPLANATION WILL MAKE IT THROUGH THAT PIG BRAIN OF YOURS because hating on a fictional character is lame and especially saying very concerning things about him👎

In conclusion, shut up,

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AOT spoiler !!

I feel very sad to know that his father passed away 😭 Even if he did survive, nobody was waiting for him back at home anymore

I actually believe there would’ve been 💕

Based on this conversation, Mr. Hoover died sometime between Reiner’s return from Paradis and Willy’s speech. It’s not really clear when exactly this was since apparently these two haven’t talked in 4 whole years. But it’s proof that he would’ve had someone waiting for him 😭

yeah but unfortunately we do not know what his father had; whether is illness was chronic or terminal etc. we also don’t know if marley had a hand in his death, bc they put a fuck ton of expectations on bertholdt bc he had the most powerful titan. him not coming back from paradis, with them now having his titan, could’ve signalled to marley he betrayed them or wasn’t loyal enough to it. and they could’ve interfered with his father’s care. but because we know so little (literally, isayama barely even thought abt bertl backstory. he does regret it apparently)it’s hard to say whether or not his father would’ve died if he had returned or not.

and also karina and mr leonhart but really not like each other, if the first convo they’ve had in years is about bertholdt’s father passing and we don’t even know when that happened jesus

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I keep having bertholdt themed dreams that are like in the style of being John malkovich except I get to take bertholdt to the cinema and eat popcorn. And ymir is there

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old stuff that blew up on pixiv and twitter?!!! i was shocked lol anyways my favourite couples (im more team yumihisu tho)

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There’s more types of emotional relationships than platonic and romantic.

That’s reibert for me.

They’re more complicated than “just” friendship, though I dislike the way society devalues friendships.

Imo, these two dudes are soulmates.

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