Property talk:P454

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Structurae structure ID
identifier for a building in the Structurae database

Description	Link to Structurae database - Structurae (Q1061861)
Applicable "stated in" value	Structurae (Q1061861)
Data type	External identifier
Corresponding template	Template:Structurae (Q10958280)
Template parameter	en:Template:Structurae used in references for infoboxes
Domain	According to this template: architectural structure (Q811979) According to statements in the property: fixed construction (Q811430), infrastructure (Q121359) or archaeological site (Q839954) When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed values	[12]\d{7}
Example	Eiffel Tower (Q243) → 20000021 Rockefeller Center (Q11277) → 10000158
Source	Structures and Large-Scale Projects Bauwerke und Großprojekte Ouvrages d'art et grands projets
Formatter URL	https://structurae.net/structures/$1 https://structurae.info/ouvrages/$1 https://structurae.de/bauwerke/$1 https://structurae.net/structures/data/index.cfm?ID=$1
Tracking: same	Category:Structurae ID same as Wikidata (Q13294008)
Tracking: differences	Category:Structurae ID different from Wikidata (Q13294011)
Tracking: usage	Category:Pages using Wikidata property P454 (Q23909028)
Tracking: local yes, WD no	Category:Structurae ID not in Wikidata (Q13294010)
See also	archINFORM project ID (P5383), Structurae person ID (P2418), Emporis building ID (P455)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties Items with no other external identifier Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Mix'n'match (Report) Database reports/Constraint violations/P454 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 24,829 Main statement 24,538 out of 81,000 (30% complete) 98.8% of uses Qualifier 2 <0.1% of uses Reference 289 1.2% of uses
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Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P454#Single value, SPARQL

Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Paddington (Praed Street) tube station (Q3360320), Paddington (Bishop's Road) tube station (Q29378866)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P454#Unique value, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)

Format “([12]0\d{6})|”: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P454#Format, SPARQL

Type “fixed construction (Q811430), infrastructure (Q121359), archaeological site (Q839954)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “fixed construction (Q811430), infrastructure (Q121359), archaeological site (Q839954)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Green Bank Telescope (Q1544579), 1998 FIFA World Cup (Q101730), Delta Works (Q217480), 2000 Summer Olympics (Q8544), 1972 Summer Olympics (Q8438)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P454#Type Q811430, Q121359, Q839954, SPARQL

Item “coordinate location (P625)”: Items with this property should also have “coordinate location (P625)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P454#Item P625, SPARQL

Item “country (P17)”: Items with this property should also have “country (P17)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P454#Item P17, search, SPARQL

Item “located in the administrative territorial entity (P131)”: Items with this property should also have “located in the administrative territorial entity (P131)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P454#Item P131, search, SPARQL

Item “instance of (P31)”: Items with this property should also have “instance of (P31)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P454#Item P31, search, SPARQL

Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P454#Scope, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P454#Entity types

Qualifiers “subject named as (P1810), alternative name (P4970), applies to part, aspect, or form (P518)”: this property should be used only with the listed qualifiers. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P454#allowed qualifiers, SPARQL

This property is being used by: ar:قالب:Structurae fr:Modèle:Bases archi it:Template:Collegamenti esterni sr:Шаблон:Structurae ru:Шаблон:Объект Нью-Йорка en:Template:Structurae es:Plantilla:Structurae my:Template:Structurae, my:တမ်းပလိတ်:Structurae ja:Template:Structurae arz:قالب:Structurae ne:ढाँचा:Structurae su:Citakan:Structurae bcl:Plantilya:Structurae hr:Predložak:Structurae simple:Template:Structurae azb:شابلون:Structurae zh-min-nan:Pang-bô͘:Structurae eo:Ŝablono:Structurae ms:Templat:Structurae ko:틀:위키데이터 속성 추적 da:Skabelon:Structurae dag:Tɛmplet:Structurae nan:Pang-bô͘:Structurae pa:ਫਰਮਾ:Structurae gv:Clowan:Structurae wikt:ko:틀:위키데이터 속성 추적 incubator:Template:Wp/jje/위키데이터 속성 추적 Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Discussion

Restricted to "structure Structrae ID"

I added "structure" to the property label, as there are also Structurae IDs for people, but it is one of these annoying databases where different types of items have different URL patterns. --Zolo (talk) 17:31, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Format change?

Is my observation correct, that this database changed the format of the identifiers from 's' or 'p' + 7 digits to new 8 digits? --Pasleim (talk) 11:10, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes, apparently. A bot should probably change that. As the older format still works at the moment, it could follow the link and grab the new idea. But from what I can see, simply replacing "s" with "2" would do the trick. ---Zolo (talk) 17:53, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

@Pasleim, Zolo: so now we have two ID for the same notice on Structurae? It create some violations on Wikidata:Database reports/Constraint violations/P454. What should we do? Remove the s+ ID? leave the two IDs? Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 10:24, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

s + Id is just a redirect to the new 8 digit Id. So let's remove all s + Id if the new version is set. --Pasleim (talk) 12:36, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

webmaster@structurae.de: The IDs were changed as follows: The p = 1 , s = 2 followed by the 7 digits.

stats

• Mix'n'match: Details for Structurae: Automatically matched 11,732 (18.5%), Unmatched 51,666 (81.4%), Total 63,491
• 1887 inclusions of Vorlage:Structurae in dewiki
• dewiki: 46 matches only ([1])
• 1504 wikidata items with Structurae ID as of now. --Atlasowa (talk) 11:47, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Is Emporis building ID (P455) constraint relevant ?

Hi,

Emporis building ID (P455) was add by Docu but I'm wondering if it's relevant or not. Right now for 1696 items with Structurae structure ID (P454) there is 1613 violations, ie. 95%!

For there, there is two possibilities :

• few items are in Emporis
• a lots of items are in Emporis but no one put the ID on the items

Does someone know Emporis enough to tell?

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 11:12, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

I think Emporis mostly aims at businesses focuses on recent constructions, especially skyscrapers. Structurae contains more ancient buildings, and also infratructure projects. So I don't think the constraint is really relevant. We can probably find better ways to suggest adding missing ids. --Zolo (talk) 09:04, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

URLs

webmaster@structurae.de: The main URL for the English version of Structurae currently is http://structurae.net and no longer http://en.structurae.de. The old URLs are, however, redirected to the new ones. The site also uses semantic URLs, but the old (s/p+7 digits) and new IDs (8 digits) can still be used to create a valid link which is then redirected to the current semantic URL.

Label disambiguation

Rather than edit-warring over the label, as User:Jura1 and I have been doing now, I should have brought the conversation here, as they first suggested. Jura1 considers that the English-language label should be "Structurae ID (structure)", including the disambiguator, whereas I contend it should be "Structurae ID", without it. My preference is based on what I've seen with other properties and in Help:Label: “labels can be ambiguous” and “disambiguation information belongs in the description”. Jura1 correctly points out, however, that Help:Label is pertinent to items not properties.

Opinions anyone? — OwenBlacker (talk; please {{ping}} me in replies) 21:07, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

• I wouldn't mind if we had only one, but there is also Structurae person ID (P2418). Contrary to items, it's not possible to have several properties with the same label. For most (if not all) multiple properties for one website, the label already differentiates them @OwenBlacker: --- Jura 21:16, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
  • @Jura1: Naming it "Structurae structure ID" feels less weird than "Structurae ID (structure)", for what it's worth :) — OwenBlacker (talk; please {{ping}} me in replies) 21:58, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
    • np, as long as it includes it in one way or the other. @OwenBlacker: --- Jura 11:40, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
      • @Jura1: That certainly sounds like an easier solution until-and-unless someone comes up with another :) — OwenBlacker (talk; please {{ping}} me in replies) 12:49, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

How do you find the structure Structrae ID?

If you search for a structure in the database by name, e.g. "Storchenbrücke" for Storchenbrücke (Q15060163), you find the page https://structurae.net/structures/storchenbrucke. But how do you find the numeric ID required for this property? --Dipsacus fullonum (talk) 21:47, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

• described at URL (P973) contains a few links as well. Ideally, these would be converted to P454 [2]. --- Jura 19:45, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

"But how do you find the numeric ID required for this property?" → @Dipsacus fullonum, Jura1: There's a small info box on structurae web pages, search for "Structure-ID" --FoeNyx (talk) 14:09, 7 November 2020 (UTC)