User talk:AdrianoRutz

Guten Morgen - Ich hab gerade gesehen das Du das Objekt Q130360853 bearbeitet hast. Möchte Dich noch kurz auf User_talk:Wostr#Checkrequest hinweisen (letzter Punkt in dem Absatz). Also ob man es mit Q5122105 zusammenlegen kann oder nicht, da die CAS unterschiedlich sind... Vielleicht magst Du ja dazu auch was sagen/beitragen...

Guten Morgen, danke für den Ping. Ich sehe, dass beide auch nicht den gleichen InChI (P234): International Chemical Identifier (und InChIKey (P235): a hashed version of the full standard InChI) haben... ich wäre auch der Meinung es scheint sich hier die gleiche type of chemical entity (Q113145171): Wikidata metaclass that covers physical entities of interest in chemistry including molecular entities and pure chemical substances zu sein, aber eventuell auch diese zuerst löschen (nur /s1 gegen /s2 also absolute stereo requested)?

Hi Adriano,

may you please tag scientists you create as Chemiker (Q593644) or Pharmakologe (Q2114605) instead of generic "researchers" (e.g. Valentina Parisi (Q127429241))?

Hi @Bernice Heiderman, I believe this is still the most used model. Nevertheless, I added pharmacist (Q105186) to both Cherry Lifeng Li (Q127429252) and Valentina Parisi (Q127429241).

Yes, but why model something inexact when it would be the same effort to do it more precise?

It is not inexact, you can be a pharmacist and not a researcher, or a researcher and not a pharmacist, or both. We lack plenty of occupations to define more granularly what people do, so I went for the most used in such cases, anyway, thank you for your vigilance and will to improve precision of Wikidata. :)

I can't resolve general modeling issues since I'm no expert for them. But in Wikidata the scientist professions are subclasses to researcher (-> Wissenschaftler (Q901) -> Q1650915). By tagging them more specific you actually don't remove the "researcher".

pharmacist (Q105186) for example is not

I've meant Pharmakologe (Q2114605), not Apotheker (Q105186)!

Pharmakologe (Q2114605) is too specific and does not apply. pharmacology (Q128406) is only a subpart of the research you can do in pharmaceutical science (Q7180763)

Maybe I'm seeing this different than you because I'm reading the German descriptions and you the English (or the Portuguese)?

In my language even Dioskurides (Q297776) is an Pharmakologe (Q2114605) – while Apotheker (Q105186) (Apotheker/in = apotecário) are simply employees of an Apotheke (Q13107184).

Totally right, I changed the occupations of the above, thank you.

Bonjour (je me permet de parler en français car j'ai vu des messages en dessous en français),

Depuis aujourd'hui, quand j'essaye d'accéder à Quickstatement et que j'essaye de m'identifier, il me retourne une erreur 403.

Même chose, quand j'essaye d'accéder à votre batch, la page ne se loade pas: https://quickstatements.toolforge.org/#/batch/231817

As-tu la même expérience ou est-ce seulement mon compte ou mon ordinateur?

Bonjour,

QuickStatements est bel et bien indisponible pour le moment, et cela semble toucher tous les utilisateurs. La meilleure option est de contacterUser:Magnus Manske ou de laisser un message sur Help talk:QuickStatements

Ok merci pour la confirmation que ce n'était pas que moi (je m'étais addressé à toi car j'avais juste cherché dans la page "Modifications récentes" des modifications "Quickstatement" et cliqué sur le premier pseudo apparu.).

Je vais patienter, en général quand il y a un bug, au bout de quelques jours ça se résout.

Bonne continuation!

Hello Adriano,

You signed up for an interview with me tomorrow 9:00 Amsterdam time. You can get to the interview room with this link: https://teams.microsoft.com/l/meetup-join/19%3ameeting_YWUyMjcxYTYtZWMzZC00MDU4LTk5MTYtZjNlNjYzNTEwMzE5%40thread.v2/0?context=%7b%22Tid%22%3a%22cc7df247-60ce-4a0f-9d75-704cf60efc64%22%2c%22Oid%22%3a%222fba8408-b879-4a31-bec7-9379a71a54fe%22%7d

Mennolt van Alten

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Bonjour,

Je travaille pour Wikimedia CH, où je m'occupe du soutien à la communauté francophone. J'ai remarqué par le biais de la carte du MOOC Wikidata que vous êtes en Suisse, et je vous contacte donc pour vous proposer de participer aux événements locaux.

Pour info, nous avons un calendrier ici sur meta, avec des événements qui ont lieu un peu partout en Suisse. Le 27 avril 2024 nous organisons à Berne un moment d'échange et de rencontres autour des projets Wikimedia (plus d'infos ici sur notre site web).

Au plaisir de vous rencontrer !

Bonjour,

Merci beaucoup d'avoir pris contact, heureux de voir que la carte du MOOC a servi! Je ne suis pas encore certain de pouvoir participer le 27 mais m'inscrirai si jamais.

A bientôt peut-être,

While I was checking model cząsteczki chemicznej lub sieci przestrzennej (P8224) constraint violations I noticed that some items that was probably incorrectly changed from 'type of chemical entity' to 'group of stereoisomers': Q76115890, Q27467546, Q2823252 (or Q4639534 by NPImporterBot). Based on the structure + InChI and IsoSMILES I can't see a missing stereocentre anywhere. Am I missing something here?

Hi, no you are right, this was a mistake (partially related to https://github.com/rdkit/rdkit/discussions/6881). Thank you for fixing it! Do not hesitate to give your thoughts about related https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Chemistry#Modelling:_refine_%22group_of_stereoisomers%22? whenever you have time. And thank you for all your hard work for the Chemistry Project!

Hi, I have to write to you, because it is the third time I have to revert some of your semi-automatic edits (QS) regarding:

1. UDYKDZHZAKSYCO-CIBWSTISSA-N (Q105270642)
2. JWYXXCZNFFQYGQ-UOMKELITSA-N (Q105136469)
3. UDYKDZHZAKSYCO-LSSWMSPRSA-N (Q5049581)

I understand the nature of these edits, however, we have to think of some process to prevent such changes. With the #1 and #2 items names from PubChem are invalid. In the first case we have kastalagina (Q104387655) and UDYKDZHZAKSYCO-CIBWSTISSA-N (Q105270642) is its stereoisomer. As I don't see any other valid name for this, I decided to put an InChIKey as a label. For the second item (JWYXXCZNFFQYGQ-UOMKELITSA-N (Q105136469)) we have prymnezyna 1 (Q7253248).

In the case of UDYKDZHZAKSYCO-LSSWMSPRSA-N (Q5049581) I think that InChIKey as a temporary name is much better than PubChem CID (CID 3002104).

I tried to sum up this problem on WikiProject subpage: Wikidata:WikiProject Chemistry/Names exceeding character limit. However, it didn't receive any interest on Wikiproject discussion page, so it's merely a proposition of how to deal with this issue.

I'd suggest that any changes of en:label (in the future probably from the mul:label) from InChIKey to other label should be done manually or reported somewhere (Wikidata talk:WikiProject Chemistry/Names exceeding character limit?) for manual checking.

Hi @Wostr,

Thank you for getting in touch and notifying me. I was indeed trying to import masses, names, and CIDs from PubChem based on InChIKeys. Regarding the very long names, I know the issue. We did the same as you did in the frame of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Chemistry_Natural_products (putting the InChIKey).

I have high hopes https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Pending#IUPAC_name will also contribute to improving this situation.

Thank you again, I will avoid any unsupervised semi-automated updates from now on.

Let me inform you I have fixed the item Q114754880, which had e.g. broken title and a incorrect issue date (taken from wrong item from Crossref API) – probably was created automatically somehow. Regards, —Mykhal (talk) 21:39, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much, was created automatically indeed

What type of query did you use to generate batches like this one: https://quickstatements.toolforge.org/#/batch/193571?

I found that in some cases you've added type of chemical entity (Q113145171) to items that should not have this metaclass, because there are already metaclasses like group or class of chemical substances (Q17339814) or group of stereoisomers (Q59199015).

Normally, there are no more chemical compound (Q11173) using found in taxon (P703) without type of chemical entity (Q113145171)! :)

(see https://w.wiki/6ggp)

By the way, your remark also allowed me to spot a priority list of chemicals to disambiguate... in case: https://w.wiki/6gi$

Yes, I checked that earlier and spotted that some of the incorrect 'type of chemical entity' was added earlier by me also. That's why I started https://quickstatements.toolforge.org/#/batch/193747 and I see now that half was done by me and the other half by you with https://quickstatements.toolforge.org/#/batch/193768 :)

Thanks for the help

Hi @Wostr! Thank you for your prompt ping. I wanted to help with all chemicals using P703 but indeed I messed something up in the query, things are now on their way of being fixed, see: https://quickstatements.toolforge.org/#/batch/193768

Thank you again!

You have a bunch of new items like Mild, Stereoselective, and Highly Efficient Synthesis of<i>N</i>-Acylhydrazones Mediated by CeCl₃·7H₂O in a Broad Range of Solvents (Q114865259) that have HTML in it. I recommend running these through a parser like BeautifulSoup and getting the text out without the tags.

Hi, I am using the https://github.com/SuLab/WikidataIntegrator, I opened an issue to try to fix this upstream (https://github.com/SuLab/WikidataIntegrator/issues/197). I know @Daniel Mietchen had similar issues and wrote a maintenance query to partially address this point. @Daniel Mietchen Do you have any updates on this? @RPI2026F1 Thank you for reporting, I will try to come up with a solution that handles this on a broader range so I might not correct everyrhing directly, thank you for your patience.

If your script is in Python, you should be able to sanitize the title yourself. How are you fetching the titles?