Wikidata:Property proposal/Vice
running mate
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Organization
| Description | second person on a presidential or other electoral ticket |
|---|---|
| Data type | Item |
| Domain | voting (Q189760); public election (Q40231); voting round (Q24097670); |
| Allowed values | human (Q5) |
| Example 1 | At 2010 Brazilian presidential election (Q985172) → successful candidate (P991): Dilma Rousseff (Q40722) → Vice: Michel Temer (Q463533) |
| Example 2 | At 2016 United States presidential election (Q699872) → candidate (P726): Hillary Clinton (Q6294) → Vice: Tim Kaine (Q359888) |
| Example 3 | At Q57048416 → successful candidate (P991): João Doria (Q10311413) → Vice: Rodrigo Garcia (Q10363867) |
| Example 4 | At 1960 Brazilian presidential election (Q4958894) → successful candidate (P991): Jânio Quadros (Q310123) → Vice: João Goulart (Q34982) |
| Planned use | Fill the information about elections in Brazil, from present to past |
| Expected completeness | eventually complete (Q21873974) |
| See also | substitute/deputy/replacement of office/officeholder (P2098) |
Motivation
[edit]In the election items there is a gap in the completeness of the data, which is the total absence of the candidate to vice-something in the statements. It would be very important for the modeling of election data in Wikidata if it were possible to put a qualifier for candidate (P726) and successful candidate (P991) to indicate the substitute/deputy/vice who composes the coalition, since it is an information for showing out alliances and agreements between parties and individuals in the elections. Hope to read your inputs on this, thanks. Ederporto (talk) 12:30, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
Discussion
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Support This property can be quite useful on election projects EricaAzzellini (talk) 13:05, 5 November 2018 (UTC)- Support It does look like we need something like this. However, the label (at least for US English) should be "running mate" - "vice" on its own has a completely different meaning! ArthurPSmith (talk) 20:18, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oh, sorry for that, it is a false cognate, maybe? Would you mind to change the description and labels to the better options in english? thank you! Ederporto (talk) 01:23, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
- Ok, done! ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:39, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support David (talk) 06:56, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Useful for structuring items on election. --Joalpe (talk) 14:24, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
Comment @EricaAzzellini:, @ArthurPSmith:, @ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2:, @Joalpe: I was reading the proposal again and it occurred to me that, at least in portuguese, this property could also be used to indicate the "second in command" of companies, organizations etc. For example: Wikimedia Foundation (Q180) → chairperson (P488) → María Sefidari (Q15735639) → Vice/<equivalent in english to the second in command> → Christophe Henner (Q18219536). What do you all think? Good contributions, Ederporto (talk) 20:45, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- Comment I think the label for that in English would be "second in command", but you wouldn't use that until they were actually in office, so for example it wouldn't apply to Tim Kaine in your examples above. Also for some large companies there are many (maybe hundreds) of "vice presidents". And looking around it seems we may have a property for that already - substitute/deputy/replacement of office/officeholder (P2098) although modeled a little differently. You might want to look at how that's used and maybe revisit this proposal? ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:18, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
- substitute/deputy/replacement of office/officeholder (P2098) is for the function, not for the person itself. I think the proposal can go on as it is, just for elections. Maybe, as the need of second in command in the modeling organizations show up we can discuss more, right? Good contributions, Ederporto (talk) 19:49, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
@Ederporto, EricaAzzellini, ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, ArthurPSmith, Joalpe: 
Done: running mate (P6149). − Pintoch (talk) 13:20, 20 November 2018 (UTC)