Wikidata:Property proposal/sample
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samples
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work
| Description | audio or video which this work uses an excerpt of |
|---|---|
| Represents | sampling (Q596446) |
| Data type | Item |
| Domain | instance of (P31) musical work (Q2188189) |
| Allowed values | instance of (P31) audiovisual work (Q2431196) |
| Example 1 | Ice Ice Baby (Q2389029) → Under Pressure (Q836667) |
| Example 2 | Popular Song (Q7229734) → Popular (Q56085665) |
| Example 3 | Popular Song (Q56085662) → Popular (Q56085665) |
| Expected completeness | always incomplete (Q21873886) |
| See also | modified version of (P5059), edition or translation of (P629), has melody (P1625) |
Motivation
[edit]Suggested by Mahir256. The FRBR model doesn't really provide for this and modified version of (P5059) suggests that two works are not intrinsically different. Jc86035 (talk) 15:29, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
Discussion
[edit]
Support Mahir256 (talk) 15:42, 14 August 2018 (UTC)- Support -Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 10:15, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Mahir256, Jc86035, Valentina.Anitnelav:
Done Created as samples from work (P5707). ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 16:23, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
sampled by
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work
Not done
| Description | work which uses an excerpt of this item |
|---|---|
| Represents | sampling (Q596446) |
| Data type | Item |
| Domain | instance of (P31) audiovisual work (Q2431196) |
| Allowed values | instance of (P31) musical work (Q2188189) |
| Example 1 | Under Pressure (Q836667) → Ice Ice Baby (Q2389029) |
| Example 2 | Popular (Q56085665) → Popular Song (Q7229734); Popular Song (Q56085662) |
| Example 3 | MISSING |
| Expected completeness | always incomplete (Q21873886) |
| See also | modified version of (P5059), has edition or translation (P747) |
Motivation
[edit]Inverse of "samples". Jc86035 (talk) 15:29, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
Discussion
[edit]
Oppose as this will add unnecessary bloat—of the sort not present with "samples" above—to heavily sampled musical work items. Mahir256 (talk) 15:42, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Mahir256: Okay; I hadn't considered that. I guess if it's not common for an artist to sample themselves then it's probably not necessary to have an inverse (whereas I've been using modified version of (P5059) for re-recordings; see Wikidata:Property proposal/modified version). Jc86035 (talk) 17:37, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose as above. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:53, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Jc86035, Mahir256, Pigsonthewing: Not done, given that we created the inverse. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 16:24, 23 August 2018 (UTC)