Talk:United Kingdom weather records

Latest comment: 2 years ago by YorkshireExpat in topic Semi-protected edit request on 20 July 2022

Update?

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As at July 2006? That's not very up to date for an online encyclopaedia is it. Do these records still hold? Gmackematix (talk) 00:17, 8 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

I've crawled through the Met office data, and bought it right up to date. I've also pulled the out-of-date tag. Number774 (talk) 14:20, 20 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

temperature

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I have read that an amateur meteorologist recorded an unofficial -29.2 deg. C. in Shropshire. Can't remember when - late seventies / early eighties I think. Mr Larrington (talk) 14:31, 9 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

Well an amateur meteorologist is not as professional as the Met Office. Bruvtakesover (T|C) 11:52, 22 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

Gibraltar, UK recorded 40.6 C, officially. Surely this counts?--Weathereditor (talk) 16:06, 4 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

Snow?

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Does it never snow in the UK then?. I actually came here to look up the record snowfall. Surprised its not here. 86.178.73.8 (talk) 18:37, 8 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Be bold and add it. Bruvtakesover (T|C) 11:52, 22 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

it does snow in the uk but not as much as amercia where i live the feb min is 1 C, but it hardly ever snows. we get loads of frost though. the met office snow page has records for snowfall in the uk but no mention of figures.--Weathereditor (talk) 16:00, 4 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

Rainfall

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How can the 120 minute record be higher than the 155 and 180 minute records? Tigerboy1966  10:19, 15 November 2014 (UTC)Reply


Highest 120-minute total 155 mm 11 June 1956 Hewenden Reservoir (West Yorkshire)

There are reservations about the listed value of 193 on the met office website, so that is why the other totals are lower, as not enough proof for the 155 and 180 has been provided. this is the nearest record and i agree that it should be this as you do but the page i cannot edit.--Weathereditor (talk) 16:04, 4 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

Merge

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Both this article and UK rainfall records are short. The more specific article can simply be merged into the United Kingdom weather records#Rainfall section. DrKay (talk) 11:08, 21 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

do it then--Weathereditor (talk) 16:05, 4 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

Done. DrKay (talk) 16:48 13 June 2015 (UTC)

sunshine

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The sunshine min is 0.1 it would be impossible to have 0 hours of sunshine in a calendar month. --Weathereditor (talk) 15:56, 4 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

I have a record high for UV but it keeps being removed every time I add it? --Weathereditor (talk) 15:57, 4 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

Supposed June 2018 Scotland highest temperature record.

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The met office website cited [1] says nothing whatsoever about this supposed 'record'. 86.147.197.31 (talk) 21:04, 25 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

Potential temperature record

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I think we should wait for the Met Office to declare it as offical rather than provsional before editing the article, but last Thursday, the Temperature may have reached 38.7°C in Cambridge.[1] Unoriginal Generic Username (talk) 17:42, 27 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

It is not provisional anymore its official now. Chijx (talk) 07:24, 20 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

@Chijx, what is, the 2019 record? -- DeFacto (talk). 09:46, 20 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
No it's not Met Office still state "provisional" 82.23.64.162 (talk) 12:29, 20 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

References

ever not correct

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The article says "ever recorded in the United Kingdom" yet there was a hotter temperature in Southern Ireland when it was part of the United Kingdom - so ever is not correct i.e.

Ireland (then part of the  United Kingdom)	33.3 °C (91.9 °F)	Kilkenny Castle, County Kilkenny	26 June 1887[93]

here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_weather_records#Europe

So this should be added as this was part of the United Kingdom when it was a weather record.

2022 UK heatwave

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Please stop adding the provisional Met Office figures. These are only provisional so far and are likely to increase even more throughout today. Once the Met Office has confirmed them, they can then be added to the page. DylanClarkWebb (talk) 12:29, 19 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

I fear your plea is falling on deaf ears. Btljs (talk) 14:32, 19 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 20 July 2022

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The temperature record has now risen to 40.3c it needs to be updated as this information is now outdated. Chijx (talk) 07:23, 20 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

@Chijx as soon as the Met Office verifies the records, please feel free to update the page. YorkshireExpat (talk) 07:31, 20 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Terasail[✉️] 09:39, 20 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

I did the obvious thing and added the sourced provisional figure and marked it as provisional. This is the United Kingdom weather records article, so as long as each entry is appropriately sourced and described it can be included. It's not titled United Kingdom weather records that have been confirmed by the Met Office.----Pontificalibus

@Pontificalibus: hate to be a pedant but that's not what the reference says. YorkshireExpat (talk) 13:51, 20 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
What do you think it says? The source is titled "Record breaking temperatures for the UK" and states "For the first time on record temperatures in the UK have exceeded 40°C" and "A provisional temperature of 40.3°C was recorded at Coningsby at 15:12 yesterday (19 July) which, if confirmed, will beat the previous record of 38.7°C set in 2019 by 1.5°C". There's nothing there that would support an argument not to update this article.----Pontificalibus 15:12, 20 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Pontificalibus Provisional! As in it's not a record until it's verified. So much for scientific rigour. YorkshireExpat (talk) 15:21, 20 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
It a provisional record, as noted in this Wikipedia article. It is so widely reported as such by authoritative sources that it would be un-rigorous for this article not to mention it, while of course making it clear that it is provisional.----Pontificalibus 15:49, 20 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
What are records currently though, prior to the July 2022 being verified as valid (or invalid)? -- DeFacto (talk). 16:13, 20 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Pontificalibus @DeFacto Yeah, at least put the actual records back. Or just wait a couple of weeks for verification. YorkshireExpat (talk) 16:21, 20 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
I have updated the article to include both sets of records. I think we should still have the confirmed records in the article while the new records await verification, because these provisional records still have a slight chance of not being confirmed. DarkHorse234 (talk) 21:50, 20 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Pontificalibus: just to prove that these things do sometimes get rejected see here, and then compare for the Met Office record in Northern Ireland. YorkshireExpat (talk) 07:05, 22 July 2022 (UTC)Reply