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Cypripedium acaule

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Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 30 Jun 2010 at 21:51:05 (UTC)

 
Original - The orchid Cypripedium acaule, commonly known as "pink ladies slippers".
 
Edit 1 - Brighten
Reason
Clear image of two neighboring specimens in nice shape; bland background contrasts well with the colors of the plant; resolution high enough to print as a poster.
Articles in which this image appears
Cypripedium acaule
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Plants
Creator
Sasata
  • Thanks for that, Noodle. I suppose I could have done that myself, but I didn't "see" the need until it was done. I tried some focus stacks on some mushroom shots, but almost all were unsuccessful... still need more practice with the new gear. Sasata (talk) 13:28, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Cypripedium acaule - Sasata edit1.jpg --Jujutacular T · C 04:08, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Killdeer Nesting

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Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 10 Jul 2010 at 18:35:06 (UTC)

 
Original - Killdeer protecting its nest from photographer.
Reason
High resolution, dynamic coloring, and "rare" by capturing both eyes of a bird.
Articles in which this image appears
Killdeer
FP category for this image
Bird
Creator
User: Gut Monk
  • Support as nominator --Gut Monk (talk) 18:35, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. I have removed this image from the article. As was said, the other image is far superior; the main thing stopping that one from being of FP quality is its small size. There are a number of issues with this one, but, in short, I do not think the camera you used to take this is going to be up to scratch for FP-quality pictures most of the time. To top it all off, your edit warring is completely unacceptable. If you disagree with another editor's actions, discuss it with them on a talk page- the least you can do is explain your actions in an edit summary. J Milburn (talk) 18:48, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose (ec) If this image was being used in Camouflage, it would work better. But in Killdeer, the background makes it far too hard to discern the bird. Too bad the bird isn’t standing on the grass. Not even close to an FP. Also not cropped tight enough. Shortcomings not fixable. Greg L (talk) 18:51, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Since the nominator insists that this nomination be considered (he/she reverted J Milburn), rather than deal with the nominator, I suggest we just WP:SNOWBALL this one since it isn’t even close to FP. Greg L (talk) 18:55, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I support the Snow Ball. I'm new here and still learning. Thanks for the guidance. Also, could either of you talk to me about how you include your name and time stamp with these replies? User:Gut Monk

Not promoted --Jujutacular T · C 03:17, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Olduvai Gorge or Oldupai Gorge

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Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 2 Jul 2010 at 16:54:58 (UTC)

 
Original - Olduvai Gorge within the surrounding Great Rift Valley
 
Edit 1 - Denoised sky, removed dust spots
Reason
I saw this on WP:PPR and thought it was too good not to be nominated here. To me, it fits all the criteria and has definite EV because it adds a lot to the "big picture" of the area. I have also made an edit addressing some of the concerns mentioned in the WP:PPR page.
Articles in which this image appears
Olduvai Gorge
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured_pictures/Places/Landscapes
Creator
Flickr user Noel Feans

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 07:01, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Jordan, 2006

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Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 11 Jul 2010 at 04:38:03 (UTC)

 
Original - Michael Jordan in 2006
Reason
This is a very high EV image that is fairly sharp. Any advice on GL assistance requests would of course be appreciated.
Articles in which this image appears
Michael Jordan
List of National Basketball Association season scoring leaders
African American
Charlotte Bobcats
Washington Wizards
Award share
Atlantic Coast Conference Men's Basketball Player of the Year
NBA Defensive Player of the Year Award
Bill Russell NBA Finals Most Valuable Player Award
50 Greatest Players in NBA History
Oscar Robertson Trophy
All-NBA Team
NBA All-Star Game Most Valuable Player Award
UPI College Basketball Player of the Year
List of players in the Basketball Hall of Fame
List of Omega Psi Phi brothers
Chicago bid for the 2016 Summer Olympics
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Entertainment
Creator
Joshua Massel. Cropped by en:User:Quadzilla99

Comment His eyes look great! --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 08:06, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --J Milburn (talk) 11:40, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jesse Jackson, 2009

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Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 3 Jul 2010 at 00:05:52 (UTC)

 
Original - Jesse Jackson speaking at the University of Chicago in 2009
 
Edit White balance and NR
Reason
This is a very high quality expressive photo that has high EV as the main image in his biography.
Articles in which this image appears
Jesse Jackson
Karin Stanford
Terri Schiavo case
2002 white supremacist terror plot
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Political
Creator
Eric Guo; cropped by Beyond My Ken
  • Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:05, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Oppose The color is WAY wrong, whoever cropped it from what I presume was the original (File:Jesse_Jackson_at_Max_Palevsky_Cinema.jpg) did something to vastly oversaturate the image, way to much yellow. His real skin color ([1]) doesn't look like hes about to die of jaundice. Plus this isn't a very flattering portrait and didn't we just promote a picture of him? — raeky (talk | edits) 00:11, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Question Can the color be corrected by recropping from the original or other Graphics Lab techniques?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:08, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment Regarding the 1983 FA. The 2009 image is used in very different contexts. This one is the main image in his bio.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:08, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • I'm doubtful one of the graphic artists could correct the color sufficiently, but that still doesn't solve the other issues: that hes all sweaty and shiny, thus unflattering, and that hes already been recognized recently with a FPC. — raeky (talk | edits) 01:27, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • We can easily add more issues, JPG artifacts and small file size. Considering this is a modern photograph of him, and as far as I know isn't dead yet, it's reproducible, so our technical standards would be very high for a portrait of a modern person. — raeky (talk | edits) 01:28, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
          • And how is this picture improving this stub? Karin Stanford? — raeky (talk | edits) 01:29, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
            • As far as Karin Stanford goes, I could speak to you left hand guys at FPC as the right hand, but I have shown you a bunch of examples of what they want at places like FAC and FLC and you guys seem to fail to understand what the right hand is doing even when I explain it to you. An image deprived article like this is considered improved by an image like this at all quality review processes (PR, GAC, FAC, FLC) except FPC.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:41, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
              • I would think a picture of her would be more relevent for the article then someone she had an affair with, this image was taken in the oval office, therefore likely PD, if you find the source and crop it, you got a picture of her. — raeky (talk | edits) 01:48, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
                  • You seem to have missed the point. Even now this is not presented as a main image. It is a supporting image and clearly illustrative in its current use. She is only notable because of him. If she was any regular person's baby's momma, she would not have a WP page.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:45, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
                    • I'm befuddled as to how you can keep claiming we're all a bunch of clueless gits who don't know how to edit articles and you're trying to show us how to do it properly, when your article edits keep making fundamental errors such as misspelling the key people's names and shoving images onto the left side of pages for no conceivable reason. Surely the honourable right hand (?) people at FAC & GAC, etc, don't think the only image in an article should be clumsily placed onto the left side of the article? I've said it before - can you please spend more time getting this basic stuff right and less time telling everyone else why they're wrong and you're right; that will do much more to improve Wikipedia. --jjron (talk) 14:56, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
                • Have to agree, the white balance was pretty out of wack, though the edit doesn't feel perfect (the shadows seem a bit green around the hairline in particular).The amount of noise is much higher than I would have expected from a 40D at iso 1000. I'm guessing it was underexposed at the time then pushed later in post processing. I did a noise reduction, but I'm not sure something this small and noisy would ordinarily pass. Noodle snacks (talk) 11:38, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose If the quality ain’t there, don’t despair. Greg L (talk) 01:43, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I’m really looking for some reason to think this on-the-fly photo of an individual is head & shoulders above other such images. It just sort of looks similar to your generic shot when an AP photographer took a picture as Jesse was gesturing; that’s not remarkable. Greg L (talk) 20:42, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support edit. I can get behind this, but I have no strong feelings. Not a bad portrait, but it is a little snap-shotty. J Milburn (talk) 22:18, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose J Milburn’s observation mirrors my own: “a little snap-shotty.” When deciding whether a picture deserves FP status, I can draw an analogy to a chef’s contest: “Tastes a bit like Campbell’s Chicken Noodle soup” isn’t what I would call a ‘big endorsement’ for handing out four or five stars in a French cooking contest. Greg L (talk) 22:47, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The edit has a high technical standard, but I agree with J Milburn and Greg L. It tastes like sanp-shot chicken noodle. Gut Monk (talk) 20:44, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:35, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Fireworks over USS North Carolina (BB-55)

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Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 3 Jul 2010 at 22:41:42 (UTC)

 
Original - Fireworks illuminate the skies over Battleship North Carolina (BB-55) capping week long celebrations surrounding the commissioning the newest Virginia-class nuclear attack submarine North Carolina (SSN-777) on 3 May 2009.
Reason
I just like this image. Figured I'd put it up for FPC just so that the pages that use this image field would include an FPC nom.
Articles in which this image appears
North Carolina class battleship, National Register of Historic Places listings in New Hanover County, North Carolina
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/History/USA History
Creator
Mass Communication Specialist 2ND Class Roadell Hickman (USN)
  • Support as nominator --TomStar81 (Talk) 22:41, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. The quality is lacking, and I'm really not seeing any real encyclopedic value. J Milburn (talk) 23:30, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Gee, I like the image, and clicked on it to look at the full zoom. It is certainly very *nice* and I don’t think the quality is lacking. But like J Milburn, I’m not seeing the EV. Greg L (talk) 02:11, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • How about patriotism? That's encyclopedic, right? From an anthropological perspective, it could also be considered a study into the significance placed in the honor of a commissioning ceremony for a naval ship. TomStar81 (Talk) 06:39, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • This doesn't really illustrate patriotism, and though there is some of the other, the ceremony itself is hardly wildly important, and this doesn't actually illustrate the ceremony that well. We just have some blurry fireworks behind a blurry, dark ship. Sorry. J Milburn (talk) 10:28, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose the fireworks aren't sharp, they are cut off, as is the ship... There is also no way of knowing from this picture what type of ship it is - it's just a ship with guns, so is not a good example of North Carolina class Battleship sorry. Nice enough picture, but nowhere near FP... And may I also say that nom'ing a picture purely so a page has an FP nom on it is a very poor reason to create the nom... You should be creating nom's based on quality pictures, not just to make an article look better... Gazhiley (talk) 09:55, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Interesting composition, but minimal encyclopedic value. Spikebrennan (talk) 15:36, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - EV isn't there. There was a reason I nominated it for FP at Commons and not here when I uploaded it... :/ —Ed (talk • majestic titan) 17:34, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 00:40, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Eastern Great Egret

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Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 5 Jul 2010 at 08:53:28 (UTC)

 
Original - Eastern Great Egret (Ardea modesta), non-breeding plumage, Gould's Lagoon, Tasmania, Australia
Reason
This bird has been over-wintering fairly close to my home for the last few years. It is difficult to approach though, typically spooking within 50 meters or so. With some luck it landed on a nesting box near my position at the time.
Articles in which this image appears
Eastern Great Egret, Egret, Ardea (genus)
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Birds
Creator
User:Noodle snacks

Promoted File:Ardea modesta.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 04:51, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Donald Rumsfeld

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Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 6 Jul 2010 at 00:03:55 (UTC)

 
Original - Donald Rumsfeld former United States Secretary of Defense and White House Chief of Staff
Reason
Yes this is another official portrait. This is a high EV image. I am unsure if it is considered an exemplary official portrait and await your feedback.
Articles in which this image appears
Donald Rumsfeld
United States Secretary of Defense
List of Eagle Scouts (Boy Scouts of America)
List of New Trier High School alumni
Republican Party (United States) presidential primaries, 1988
List of White House Chiefs of Staff
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Political
Creator
U.S. Military
Agreed but it looks very unnatural. --Iankap99 (talk) 17:42, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would be inclined to disagree; they certainly have different connotations. A diagram may be educational, but, for instance, a portrait of a minor celebrity or obscure politician is not as clearly "educational". J Milburn (talk) 16:19, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:27, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Podoserpula pusio

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Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 13 Jul 2010 at 09:05:58 (UTC)

 
Original - Podoserpula pusio
Reason
Quite an interesting looking thing.
Articles in which this image appears
Podoserpula, Amylocorticiaceae
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Fungi
Creator
Noodle snacks

Not promoted --Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 00:59, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawn by nominator. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 00:59, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Lynx in National Park

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Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 14 Jul 2010 at 23:45:32 (UTC)

 
Original - Lynx in National Park Bavarian Forest
Reason
Provides a great amount of EV
Articles in which this image appears
Eurasian Lynx List of mammals of Croatia
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Mammals
Creator
Aconcagua

Not promoted --J Milburn (talk) 11:11, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



evaporated tungsten crystals

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Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 6 Jul 2010 at 22:25:24 (UTC)

 
Original - Tungsten rods with evaporated crystals, partially oxidized with colorful tarnish. Purity 99.98 %, as well as a high pure (99.999 % = 5N) 1 cm3 tungsten cube for comparison.
Reason
and again, I think an another good and EV element photo.
Articles in which this image appears
Tungsten, Group 6 element
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Sciences/Materials science
Creator
Alchemist-hp

Promoted File:Wolfram_evaporated_crystals_and_1cm3_cube.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 22:40, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

a tantalum single crystal

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Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 6 Jul 2010 at 22:16:53 (UTC)

 
Original - A high purity (99.999 %) tantalum single crystal, made by the floating zone process, some single crystalline fragments of Tantalum, as well as a high purity (99.99 % = 4N) 1 cm3 tantalum cube for comparison.
Reason
I think an another good and EV element photo.
Articles in which this image appears
Tantalum, Group 5 element
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Sciences/Materials science
Creator
Alchemist-hp

Promoted File:Tantalum_single_crystal_and_1cm3_cube.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 22:35, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



San Diego, California

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Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 15 Jul 2010 at 04:41:47 (UTC)

 
Original - The skyline of San Diego at night. San Diego is the 8th largest city in the United States and the 2nd largest city in California. It is also the county seat ofSan Diego County. San Diego is where the first Europeans explorered California.
Reason
Its a cool picture of San Diego at night. It meets the criterea
Articles in which this image appears
San Diego
FP category for this image
places/panorama
Creator
Rufustelestrat

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 06:16, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Southern Red Bishop

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Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 7 Jul 2010 at 13:00:34 (UTC)

 
Original - Southern Red Bishop (Euplectes orix), Male
 
Edit 1 - Crop
 
Crop 2. With lead room in the opposite direction, we emphasise the bird's turning to engage with the viewer.
Reason
I was reminded that I had this floating about when I saw the nomination of a related species below.
Articles in which this image appears
Southern Red Bishop
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Birds
Creator
Noodle snacks
Possibly, after all, many photographs are better with the image centered even with a violation of the rule of thirds. --Iankap99 (talk) 05:50, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This doesn't follow the rule of thirds, nor should one blindly follow it all the time. The reason for a little space is more to do with Lead room. I've provided a crop, but I really wouldn't go any for the previous reason. Noodle snacks (talk) 06:27, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What can be forgotten, your level of idiocy or of petulance? Thoraeton (talk) 20:28, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Your comment too. --Alchemist-hp (talk) 22:06, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support crop 2 first, original second, and oppose crop 1: Nice. Shame the bird doesn't appear smaller, but apart from the scale, I suppose he's fluffing up his feathers for a mating display. I think it's worth mentioning on the image description page that this is breeding plumage. Almost hard to believe that they're otherwise a non-descript brown like the female; this shows the difference very well. Maedin\talk 06:45, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support original or Crop 2. Adam Cuerden (talk) 03:09, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Euplectes sp PLW crop.jpg --Jujutacular T · C 13:20, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Summary:
1 general oppose !vote
Nominator supports all
Support only for original / preference for original: Raeky, Alchemist-hp, J Milburn
Preference for crop 1: None
Preference for crop 2: Twilightchill, Greg L, Thoraeton, Maedin
No preference stated: Adam Cuerden (between original and crop 2), Iankap99
∴ Promote Crop 2. Jujutacular T · C 13:20, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Clavaria zollingeri

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Original - The coral fungus Clavaria zollingeri, commonly known as the "violet coral".
 
Edit 1 - More magenta. Noodle snacks (talk) 09:15, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Reason
I said "wow" when I first saw this image just a few hours ago, and immediately created the species article (will be expanding it soon). I think it's a beautiful, clear shot of a bizarre fungus.
Articles in which this image appears
Clavaria zollingeri, Clavaria
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured_pictures/Other_lifeforms/Fungi
Creator
Dan Molter of Mushroom Observer

An unedited version of this photo is available at MushrooomObserver.org: http://mushroomobserver.org/47508

I like the top photo best. The mushroom is already in your face; the yellow leaves and bright green background give much needed distraction. 184.57.122.217 (talk) 06:18, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Yeah, but the point is that the yellow leaves and bright green background are very unnatural. We're trying to document the weirdness of nature here, not lessen it. J Milburn (talk) 11:30, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support original, oppose edit: Accuracy of colours is more important than looking good for EV. The original also has the wow effect. --Redtigerxyz Talk 14:27, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support any. Very good EV, just was used for DYK.--Mbz1 (talk) 21:54, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Color and Light If the question is about accuracy of color, then I encourage you to look at the natural light photo of the same specimen posted at MO along with this image. In natural light, the fungus appears dull pink. But what is natural light? I found this mushroom while running back to my car to escape an approaching lightning storm. It was booming and cracking and the sky was all green and dark. On a sunny day, the natural light photo would look a lot different. Vibrant colors in the top photo were achieved by using artificial light sources along with flash (edit: meta-data says flash did not fire) and the spooky natural light of a brewing thunderstorm. This photo is a representation of a fungus that can look way different depending on lighting conditions. I think I have shown it in a good light. Shroomydan (talk) 14:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments on the edit, please. Which do we prefer? Makeemlighter (talk) 04:48, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Prefer top image on aesthetic grounds only. I think it is a prettier picture. I took about fifteen shots of this specimen using a mixture of natural light, blue spectrum diode flood lights, and built in flash. The color is different on each photo depending on placement of lights, f-stop, white balance, etc. This image was my favorite of the lot. As someone mentioned, I did hit the auto-levels button and it brightened the image.

Promoted File:Clavaria zollingeri 90973.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 23:28, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

French Man In the Streets

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Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 8 Jul 2010 at 06:10:44 (UTC)

 
Original - A homeless man on the streets of Paris
Reason
The 2nd place POTY on the commons for 2006
Articles in which this image appears
Homelessness, Homelessness in popular culture, Poverty in France, Marginalization
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Others
Creator
Eric Pouhier
To both Greg and Reditigerxyz, the image itself is 804×604, i don't know why it is resized to 300x300 here, can someone assist please?--Iankap99 (talk) 20:30, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, I can help. I really like this image. But Featured picture criteria #2 requires that that image resolution be a “a minimum of 1000 pixels in width or height.” Here, the thumbnail is only 300 pixels across and no one is holding that against it. But the full-size native file is only 804 pixels across. And that’s too bad, because I think this image is truly striking. It seems to have plenty of “encyclopedic value” (EV) as used in Poverty in France. Greg L (talk) 20:52, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I understand now. While the resolution is regrettable, images under that criteria have been passed and anything is wave-able, --Iankap99 (talk) 02:31, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My oppose is only due to #2. The creator of the photo has uploaded bigger images on wikimedia. May be the creator can be approached to upload a bigger version. --Redtigerxyz Talk 06:42, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I like the Cibachrome / SX-70 look. The image captures the eye. But the FP criteria require higher res than this. I suggest Speedy Close as “Not promoted”; that is, unless others here want to wave the resolution requirement based on its other virtues. Is ‘minimum resolution’ waveable or inviolate? When I click on the full-size native file, I’m impressed. Greg L (talk) 18:50, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Is it your opinion that this picture is worthy? --Iankap99 (talk) 02:05, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    It's an emotive picture to be sure, but I would only consider supporting if we were to obtain a version with less artistic effects, per Papa Lima Whiskey's comment below. Jujutacular T · C 15:13, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I’ll vote my conscience (even though it is likely others won’t see it my way). Yes… “worthy.” WP:Ignore All Rules is properly used whenever Wikipedia can be improved when a square peg of a circumstance can’t be pounded into a round hole of a policy. This image, overall, is very impressive. Not being able to zoom in to the point that we can see moles on this guy’s neck isn’t required to appreciate it. The full-size image is very striking and made me stop and stare. I love the Cibachrome / SX-70 look. For the attention-deficit crowd that so prone to sailing past Wikipedia’s main page, that is a good thing. Greg L (talk) 03:12, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Oppose I'm not keen on the very dark edges myself (whaever the technical term is), but my main reason is that there is no way of knowing by looking at this picture that this has anything to do with France... This is just a random homeless guy... Yes, it therefore has EV in Homelessness but as for Poverty in France it's just a nice picture - has no direct EV as not definately France... Gazhiley (talk) 09:48, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I'd prefer not to let this nomination pass without having said something about WP:NPOV. If it is the case that this image has been intensively post-processed (e.g. add vignette, reduce saturation) to achieve this particular "look", then it cannot be said to be free of the artist's own point of view, and as such, would fail one of Wikipedia's core policies (linked above). I think the unedited photograph could be just as effective. Apparently, an attempt to contact the author is being made for the first time. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 10:26, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Sure. That is a very legitimate take with as much merit as anyone else’s. The FPC criteria requires that “Any manipulation which causes the main subject to be misrepresented is unacceptable.” Clearly, the vignetting is artistic flourish beyond the simple sharpening and color-correction the FPC criteria explicitly says is OK. But the criteria also states that “More extensive manipulation should be clearly described in the image text”; such disclosure was not provided on the image-description page. But then, the vignetting, extreme contrast, and attenuated color saturation—all of which lead to a gloomy effect—are readily apparent anyway. I would argue that these edits don’t “misrepresent” the nature of the image but I understand that others will think it pushes the bounds of POV-pushing too far—like Time Magazine’s treatment of OJ Simpson. My view was that the stylized nature would be fine for a FP because the effect isn’t dehumanizing nor does it backhand France; it is simply a very eye-catching image. I fully well expect others won’t see it that way. It’s been stylized—but not to the point of misrepresenting the image, IMHO—and the image size is below the minimum: two strikes against it. Nevertheless, I voted my conscience since I can easily imagine this image being on the front of Time, Newsweek, or Life magazines. Greg L (talk) 18:10, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Agreed, but something worthy of the front-over of one of those magazines isn't always what we want- the front covers are designed to be eye-catching, emotive and interesting not, necessarily, encyclopedic. J Milburn (talk) 20:12, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose as last time: Small, the vignetting and desaturation aren't realistic. SpencerT♦Nominate! 19:09, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong oppose Over processed and I have real concerns about personality rights issues - given the massive stigma associated with having ever been homeless, it seems totally unethical to use photos of a homeless person who a) is clearly identified in the photo and b) doesn't appear to have given explicit consent to be either photographed or have the photo published on one of the world's most popular websites. Nick-D (talk) 10:25, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Oppose there isn't enough EV here, not even remotely enough, to justify the very very low (And below our very low standards) resolution. — raeky (talk | edits) 12:55, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Suggest speedy close- we have a large number of nominations active at the moment, and this one is not going to pass. J Milburn (talk) 01:51, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 02:44, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

M3 GT

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Original - A BMW E36 M3 GT negotiates the chicane at Goodwood racing circuit, UK. The M3 GT was produced in limited numbers to homologate the E36 M3 for international GT racing and featured many aerodynamic upgrades and an uprated 295 horsepower engine.
Reason
a high quality, high resolution, striking, dynamic picture of a limited edition motor vehicle being used for the purposes for which it was developed. This picture is used in a large number of wikipedia pages in many countries.
Articles in which this image appears

BMW M3

FP category for this image
Engineering and technology/Machinery
Creator
ultegra
  • Support as nominator --Ultegra (talk) 20:25, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose With only the very front of the car in focus, it is quite inferior for this sort of subject matter. It’s not a depth-of-field issue; the sweet spot of the focus was simply in front of the car and the license plate is about the only part of the car that is remotely in the focus zone. The widespread usage in the other-language versions of Wikipedia suggests only that a better image is not available or not generally known. Greg L (talk) 20:43, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Out of focus. In addition, as general precedent, license plates should be blurred. SpencerT♦Nominate! 21:33, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose- the image quality just isn't there, not to mention the fact that the license plate should probably be blurred. J Milburn (talk) 21:34, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support- it appears that some here don't understand how to photograph a rapidly moving subject that is coming towards the camera. The area of focus (the front of the vehicle) is perfectly captured whilst still maintaining the desired motion blur that creates a dynamic image. It would have been simple to have just set the camera to 1/2000th of a second exposure and have had all of the car in sharp focus. Of course, the downside of this is that the car would look completely stationary, merely leaning to one side as if its offside dampers had collapsed. That's what makes this such a standout photo from a technical perspective, something which seems to have escaped some other commentators.bad_roo (talk) 08:05, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: This is user's first edits at FPC, and first edits in over a year. SpencerT♦Nominate! 19:01, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That's a little insulting to the other editors bad_roo - I'm sure they are well aware of how to do what you say, but that doesn't mean it's FP quality... They are saying that this is too out of focus for an FP, not that the photographer didn't know what they were doing... Gazhiley (talk) 08:59, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Compare another current car FP: File:Mazda RX-8 on freeway.jpg. Focus with the appearance of car motion is possible even at high speeds. SpencerT♦Nominate! 19:07, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 02:43, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Cordray

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Original - Current Ohio Attorney General Richard Cordray was the first Solicitor General of Ohio.
Reason
This is a high quality and high EV image.
Articles in which this image appears
Richard Cordray
Ohio Attorney General
Solicitor General of Ohio
Ohio State Treasurer
Jeopardy! Tournament of Champions
University of Chicago Law Review
Valedictorian
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Political
Creator
See OTRS ticket #2008061510000901
  • It's a flaw in the editing of the photograph, clearly, I was being slightly facetious about it being a flaw with his actual ear. Whatever went wrong with the picture digitally won't be easily correctable and at best will make that part of the picture look a little awkward, since it extends further down around his collar and shoulder. But it's fairly irrelevant at this point since Greg L makes a strong argument of this being a very unoriginal common government portrait, we have no history of promoting these types of pictures. — raeky (talk | edits) 00:47, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Every single U.S. senator and house representative has one of these and they are all identical (except for the head atop the shoulders). Nothing special here. Greg L (talk) 20:17, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The lighting is a little goofy. The right side of the suit is darker than the left. Gut Monk (talk) 22:20, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question for Tony Do you get bonus points for the wiki cup for the most articles a FP/VP is used in that you get promoted? Because the use of the pictures you put in Valedictorian is very suspect, and I'm 100% sure theres far more notable Valedictorians that we have pictures of that would provide more EV to that article then those two. — raeky (talk | edits) 00:51, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Articles need images. I chanced on an article with no images. I had two guys from WP:CHICAGO that represent college and high school valedictorians. Yes there are dozens of valedictorians with WP bios and with free images, but no one was doing the work to put them in the article. Feel free to add more or replace, but makes sure to leave at least one high school and one college valedictorian for the sake of the article. Obviously, I am glad to have Chicago images, but if there are reasons to replace the images go ahead. Don't just delete them however.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:58, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Very good quality, but not FP IMO.--Mbz1 (talk) 21:27, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Don't mean to pile on but I have to agree with the above. I'm sure it's a great shot for the article and it does definitely have EV but not something I can really support for featured status, these shots are a dime a dozen. Cat-five - talk 18:54, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Suggest speedy close- this is not going to pass, and we have a large number of nominations active at the moment. J Milburn (talk) 01:49, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 02:43, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alfred Caldwell Lily Pool

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Original - The Pavilion atop a stone outcropping at the Alfred Caldwell Lily Pool in the Lincoln Park Zoo
Reason
This is a high EV image
Articles in which this image appears
Alfred Caldwell Lily Pool
Alfred Caldwell
Lincoln Park, Chicago
National Register of Historic Places listings in Chicago
List of National Historic Landmarks in Illinois
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Others
Creator
flickr user Digitalley
  • Oops, I didn't answer that question, at WP:VPC there is no minimum, 800x533 COULD pass, but then again down-sampling just to make it look a bit sharper would be looked down upon there as much as it is here. And at VPC we weight MUCH more on EV, and the EV concerns I listed below would come into play. — raeky (talk | edits) 01:23, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Unmodified would be my preferred vote on VPC, since we're not worried much about technical issues but more EV issues and slightly blurry doesn't dramatically hurt the EV. The only issue I would have there is that the image focuses mostly on the structure and not the pond, and I would consider an image showing more of the pond higher EV since although the structure is a main feature of the lily pool, it is afterall the lily pool the article is about. Not sure the image contributes alot of EV to the other articles though. — raeky (talk | edits) 15:04, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I doubt it'd be hard to retake this with better camera settings (higher DOF, better lighting) and improved composition. If you're only thinking VP, is this something you could go down and do yourself Tony? --jjron (talk) 14:46, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Stinks because the photograph has fantastic EV, but enlarged it's really too out of focus to be an FP. Amphy (talk)
  • Comment I don't want to oppose since that would just be piling on but I'd also like to comment on how sad it is that this does not meet the standards since it has such great EV. Cat-five - talk 19:36, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Suggest speedy close to free up space, clearly won't pass from here. --jjron (talk) 05:09, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 05:16, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Villain caricature

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Original - A stereotypical caricature of a villain.
Reason
I think the image actually fits all criterias, perhaps except the caption part. The image was FP before, but was delisted during time of crisis.
Articles in which this image appears
Villain
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Culture
Creator
User:J.J.
  • Honestly, I don't think it's Snidely Whiplash: I think it's more that, like Snidely, it copies the very early film clichés. If you're not familiar with those clichés, it will seem very similar. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:45, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Here is the official Mr. Whiplash. The nose in this one has a loop-back and his top hat is curved here and there is a cleft in the chin. Other than that, two depictions have an uncanny and remarkable similarity. Interestingly, in this depiction of Snidely Whiplash, the nose has the loop-back curve and the hat is curved. This character—a product of Hanna-Barbera—was also used in another character of theirs called Dick Dastardly. The only question now is whether a depiction of what is clearly Snidely Whiplash / Dick Dastardly (what I will refer to as Snidely Whiplash) now represents generic villainy in the public’s consciousness. According to PubLaw, here:

One of the more difficult problems of applying copyright law analysis and protection to graphic characters is ascertaining how such protection will be extended to protect a particular character once that character has taken on a life of its own and the character is no longer existing in the original context in which it first appeared.

The article also speaks to how the courts have adopted the “the total ‘look and feel’ approach;” in this case, it doesn’t seem to be a close call. The above-quoted theory of “took on a life of its own” is the principle of copyright law *appears* to underlie taking this image and declaring it to be a “stereotypical caricature of a villain.” I’m not in the least bit convinced User:J.J., who created this image, fully appreciates the extent to which Snidely Whiplash’s image had “taken on a life of its own” and how the character was “no longer existing in the original context in which it first appeared” in American pop-culture before making his image as he did.
Also take a look at a Google search of "Snidely Whiplash". Either J.J. *reproduced* a very similar image, or his image—which through Wikipedia’s actions has now been put out into the public domain ostensibly as a ‘generic villain’—has now spread into pop culture where it is now discoverable for what it clearly is: Snidely Whiplash. It seems to be a case where WP:OR is the nicest way to characterize what may simply be “copyright violation,” or as Kaldari wrote above, “rip-off.” It could well be the case here that Wikipedia is in a position where it is in the position of changing the way the world works rather than simply reflecting the way the world really works. Regardless, Wikipedia can not be a party to copyright violations and given the uncanny resemblance (total look & feel), I don’t understand why this hasn’t been addressed before now.
I’ve alerted J.J. on his talk page and invited him to weigh in. Perhaps he can replace some conjecture here with facts. One thing we absolutely can not do is find ourselves debating primary legal opinions as to whether Snidely Whiplash’s image now represents generic villainy in the pop culture; if that is the case, we must find a reliable source that states as much. As for the underlying premiss here (that this image is Snidely Whiplash), we can use WP:COMMONSENSE on that bit—it’s not even a close call, IMO, for those of us who grew up on these cartoons, this depiction is clearly the work product of Hanna-Barbera. Greg L (talk) 19:59, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


P.S. BTW, start scrolling down from here on J.J.’s talk page. It appears that this editor is prolific in placing “unsourced images” on Wikipedia and having them deleted over copyright concerns. The one here seems to be just another one to add to the list. I note also that J.J. doesn’t seem to respond to all those posts on his talk page—at least not on his talk page he doesn’t respond much. Greg L (talk) 20:24, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1. I grew up on cartoons. It's obvious that there are substantial similarities between this drawing and the design of Snidely Whiplash. You claim that this is a drawing of Snidely Whiplash (and that this is a matter of common sense and "not even a close call"), and I strongly disagree. Clearly, there are significant differences between the two (particularly in the skin tone, chin, nose, ears and hair). It's reasonable to argue that the degree of similarity is strong enough to constitute copyright infringement (an assertion with which I do not agree), but that's very different from the statement that "this image is Snidely Whiplash."
2. You're mistaken in your belief that the Snidely Whiplash character is a "product of Hanna-Barbera"; he appeared in cartoons from Jay Ward Productions. You're correct, however, that Dick Dastardly is a Hanna-Barbera character, so by your logic, Hanna-Barbera committed copyright infringement too.
3. Are you aware that the concept of a top hat-wearing, mustache-twirling villain long predates the cartoons in question? Please compare this image (from the 1913 silent film Barney Oldfield's Race for a Life) and this image (from the 1914 silent film serial The Perils of Pauline) to this image of Snidely Whiplash before arguing that the latter was the original depiction of such a character (as opposed to a familiar stereotype independently utilized by Jay Ward Productions, Hanna-Barbera and J.J. when a clichéd villain was called for). —David Levy 06:49, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We don't need to argue about this. The Foundation has, through its publications, admitted that this is Snidely Whiplash (yes, the Foundation has ultimate editorial responsibility, which is why WP:OFFICE actions exist). This and the fact that the revision history of the Snidely Whiplash article is just a series of insertions and removals of the image, also explain the Google search results. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 11:27, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If The Foundation has admitted it is Snidely Whiplash, that tells me that this image has an improper file name and improper file description and a lack of copyright attribution and a lack of a fair-use rationale. Greg L (talk) 15:50, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Since when does User:Solipsist = "the Foundation"? —David Levy 16:15, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I already answered that. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 18:04, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You can assign responsibility (and blame) to whomever you please, but the Foundation's failure to correct an erroneous claim not even brought to its attention (inaction) ≠ an endorsement of said claim (action). —David Levy 18:17, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, we don’t need to “argue.” But as this picture was nominated for FPC, potential copyright violation is a germane issue so this does need to be discussed and the proper action taken. This picture had no business ever being used to illustrate our Snidely Whiplash article. It is WP:OR to make something that is so strikingly close to the Snidely Whiplash character that it is passed off as such by Wikipedia and as a result gets used throughout the internet as such (and even used to illustrate the Snidely Whiplash article). The proper illustrations for Snidely Whiplash are those like what is there now: an actual vidgrab from the actual cartoon. Kaldari hit the nail right on the head when he opined simply “Rip-off of Snidely Whiplash.” Greg L (talk) 16:30, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
1. You're correct, of course, that attempts to use this image to illustrate our Snidely Whiplash article are entirely inappropriate. And yes, Solipsist should not have described the image as such.
2. You state above that the image is "strikingly close to the Snidely Whiplash character." Do you care to address the numerous differences that I've noted? (J.J.'s character doesn't even have green skin.) And how are these characters (including Snidely Whiplash) not "strikingly close" to the silent film villains that I cited? —David Levy 17:08, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In court cases like this, the complainant often use surveys of public opinion— (*show someone a picture*) “Who is this?”.

It is WP:OR to make something that is so strikingly close to the Snidely Whiplash character that it was passed off as such by Wikipedia (and was even used at times to illustrate the Snidely Whiplash article). As a direct result of these actions, this image is now being used throughout the internet to depict Snidely Whiplash. All these other people on the Internet aren’t retarded; they know this caricature looks like Snidely Whiplash and they use Wikipedia’s image because it is a high-quality closeup without severe TV-resolution limitations (we even offer a 2000-pixel version of this image). That’s pretty much a “Well… DUH!” thing. The proper illustrations for our Snidely Whiplash article are those like the one there now: an actual vid-grab from the actual cartoon.

Kaldari hit the nail right on the head when he opined simply “Rip-off of Snidely Whiplash.” He applied WP:COMMONSENSE (*ouch*). I’m still waiting for an argument that successfully explains away how this picture isn’t a copyright violation (rip off) without asking us—and everyone else on the internet now using this image as representing Snidely—to “pay no attention to that striking resemblance behind the curtain.” Greg L (talk) 17:27, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're repeating yourself, in large part via copy-and-paste (indiscriminately including statements with which I've expressed agreement), while ignoring my above responses. Until you're willing to engage in actual discussion (in which you directly address other people's arguments), this back-and-forth will fail to be constructive. —David Levy 17:57, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I did address your question (or tried to). So, to guide you along on this, I’ll point directly to your question: “Do you care to address the numerous differences that I've noted?” And my answer is “there is no need to quibble over such details—the proof is first and persistent impressions of the common person on the street.”

Pointing to details like that are what the defendants’ lawyers always resort to in copyright lawsuits over just these sort of things. Trivial difference were used once in a Big Bird lawsuit. One side was saying “Look, our version of this big yellow thing with a long neck has 2D stripes on its legs whereas Big Bird has 3D magenta bands that protrude and ours has blue eyeshadow whereas Big Bird has magenta eye shaddow.” There were many differences in the details like this. But when one just looked at it, one thought “Big Bird.” And that’s what the defendants were trying to do and they just got caught trying to circumvent “overall look & feel” by purposely trying to engineer some differences.

My point above is that pointing to silly little differences doesn’t matter on twit; in the end, all that matters is what the overall effect on first impressions before the lawyers go to work trying to show how the viewer is such a fool. Thus, the proof in the pudding is that this very image is now being used throughout the internet to depict Snidely Whiplash because that’s what it looks like to them. There’s the proof that this looks like Snidely Whiplash. Period. Full stop.

So our arguing over what we think here is WP:OR. Neither you nor I can act like copyright attorneys; we must point the real world. The impressions of all these sources all over the Internet that have picked up on this image as representing Snidely Whiplash is A) real and B) is clearly justified; they aren’t out of their minds—nor was User:Solipsist when he had a hand in declaring here on Wikipedia that this is Snidely Whiplash. Neither were the editors on Snidely Whiplash when they alternately used this very image to illustrate that article. Nor was User:Kaldari, above, when he opined that it is a “Rip-off of Snidely Whiplash.”

So methinks thee doth protest too much, Counsel, and are grasping at straws when you point to trivial details like how Snidely Whiplash is really green and this one is not.

So, seeing that this is all the argument you’ve got, I’ll get onto the task of having this image deleted from Commons tomorrow. Greg L (talk) 18:38, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not quibbling. There are numerous non-trivial differences between this design and that of Snidley Whiplash. Here's a chart:
Traits Snidley Whiplash J.J.'s villain character
Skin color green gray
Nose thin/pointed straight out fat/pointed down
Chin large/pointed down/smooth relatively small/pointed straight out/cleft
Ears small/non-detailed large/detailed
Mustache normal size extremely large
Sideburns yes no
Clothing cloak suit and necktie
Behavior antagonizes damsels/Mounties unspecified
That last trait ("behavior") is important, as a character's use can constitute (or contribute to) copyright infringement, even when its design is largely dissimilar. (A notable example is the Munchkin video game, which was deemed an unlawful copy of Pac-Man despite the titular characters' non-resemblance to each other.) If J.J.'s character were used in a specific context similar to that of Snidely Whiplash (beyond merely being labeled a "villain"), that would change matters, but this is not so.
You've repeatedly stressed that Wikipedia has inappropriately used the image (both as "picture of the day" and in the Snidely Whiplash article) to illustrate Snidely Whiplash. This is not disputed. It has occurred repeatedly, and it's a significant problem with legal ramifications. You also are correct that this likely led to the image's widespread use to depict Snidely Whiplash on various websites.
None of this, however, pertains to the image's intrinsic properties or its copyright holder's intent. That intent, in my view, was not to create a Snidely Whiplash lookalike (and purposely insert differences to hide this), but to create a villain exhibiting characteristics widely associated with stock villains of stage and screen (just as Snidely Whiplash's creator did).
And that's what we're left with. The extent of the similarity is that both characters are villainous, scowling men with top hats, dark hair and handlebar mustaches. Apart from being drawn, J.J.'s character bears as much resemblance to this 1913 character and this 1914 character as he does to Snidely Whiplash. And like Snidely Whiplash, those silent film characters actually fought heroes and tied women to train tracks. (J.J.'s villain character, conversely, has no known behavioral traits beyond his pose.)
That both Snidely Whiplash and J.J.'s villain character are drawn is a major reason why the latter would be mistaken for the former. I'm aware of no similar cartoon character with wider recognition than Snidely Whiplash, so it's likely that any drawing of a villainous, scowling man with a top hat, dark hair and handlebar mustache would be mistaken by some for Snidely Whiplash (simply because no other cartoon character springs to mind). This doesn't mean that any drawing of a villainous, scowling man with a top hat, dark hair and handlebar mustache constitutes copyright infringement. This is a stereotypical depiction that long predates Snidely Whiplash.
Before you nominate the image for deletion at Commons, please note that such a debate (based on the same arguments) already has occurred. —David Levy 23:20, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I’m not sure what I will do now. It seems if I am to pursue this at all, the wisest approach is to contact Warner Bros. Entertainment Group. If they “gotta problem with it,” that will probably be the end of this image on Commons. If W-B doesn’t have a problem, then neither do I. Greg L (talk) 03:47, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Again, Snidely Whiplash is not a Hanna-Barbera character, so Warner Bros. (which absorbed Hanna-Barbera) is not the rights holder.
As noted above, Snidely Whiplash is a character of Jay Ward Productions. That catalog now belongs to Classic Media, whose website displays the contact information that you would need.
Please be sure to also bring to their attention Dick Dastardly, the Hanna-Barbera (now Warner Bros.) character that you describe above as one and the same. Surely, Classic Media will want to seek compensation for the forty years of egregious copyright infringement that you apparently believe has occurred (assuming that it now is clear to you that Snidely Whiplash is not a Hanna-Barbera character). —David Levy 05:43, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Right you are. Jay Ward productions was absorbed by Classic Media, yes? If they don’t have a problem, then neither do I. Greg L (talk) 18:07, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
[Unindent] Honestly, given the amount of copyfraud I've seen, I don't see how them objecting would necessarily prove anything. Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:11, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 05:15, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lost-titled painting of the Battle of Trafalgar

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Original - Multiple ships in combat.
 
1st Alternate - My own attempt to lighten the watery portion without losing the feeling or authenticity of the work itself. The colors are more realistic, reveal more detail and have more "pop."
Reason
Auguste Mayer was apparently a talented painter and this piece meets the qualifications, is noteworthy and eye catching, looks great small and large, was digitally transfered exceptionally well and I think is a great artistic depiction of a historic event and in that way has EV. I've seen perhaps four or so other paintings about this battle including two linked on this image, but I think this one is probably the highest quality.
Articles in which this image appears
Oil painting
Ship
History of the United Kingdom
Battle of Trafalgar
Painting
FP category for this image
Artwork/Paintings
Creator
Painted by Auguste Mayer, uploaded by Rama
  • Support as nominator --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 01:42, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Too dark sorry - can hardly tell without squinting any details of the ships below the sails... Will change if edit done to adjust levels... Gazhiley (talk) 08:45, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • I have no problem with the darks and shadows in this pic, all clear and well detailed. Must be a case of different screen settings (I'm on a calibrated IPS LCD). Perhaps if the majority of users are viewing wikipedia on monitors that tend to reduce shadows to "can hardly tell" then there's a need for instructions how to handle it, say, a viewer that presents normal pics "a-la plain LCD". East of Borschov 03:48, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose: I have reverted your addition to painting and oil painting- those articles are already very over-illustrated, and, having worked with editors on articles very like them (if not them, I don't remember) concerning images, I can assure you that every image is carefully chosen. Additionally, I am not wild about the EV in any of the uses. It's used nicely in history of the United Kingdom, but it is very much used decoratively. In Battle of Trafalgar and ship, it's just another picture. I would be inclined to say it could help out in the artist's article, where it shows a very different style of artwork to the one already there, but, though that would solve the EV issue for me, the fact remains that this reproduction is significantly smaller than the original. I would like to see more fine art FPs, but I don't think this one's "the one", sorry. J Milburn (talk) 11:51, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ok, you got me, I did try to pad the number of articles this image is on, but for obvious reasons it's not hard to see why I would put it there. Might or might not withdraw my nomination of this, I mostly added it to test my FP-worthy-picking ability. Went through like 40 other VERY good pics, one was turned down before, and another already had been promoted. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 21:55, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Quoting you: Too bad for you then. Please try to not take these things personally and react in that vein. Your post seems inappropriately combative and we don’t need that here. Greg L (talk) 22:14, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I meant what's your problem with the image, which you could just have said in the first place, that's my problem - everyone else here has explained what there concerns are, but you're the only one who hasn't and is now apparently trying to draw me into a dispute, we don't need that here, so please stay to the topic at hand. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 22:18, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • And I meant quoting you: Too bad for you then. We don’t need combative language like that here over FPC nominations. There are two topics at hand here: 1) your combative post, and 2) the picture. Instead of striking that part of your combative post, you whip out the ol’ Bat Mirror®©™ of righteous indignation over my rightfully and politely asked you to not personalize this (which you clearly did). As Gazhiley wrote above, it’s too dark. I find your “1st Alternate” (are more to come?) doesn’t solve the issue; there isn’t enough dark detail in the scan. Consequently the lightening done for “1st Alternate”, while bringing out some additional detail, also simply turns fields of murky black to fields of murky very-dark gray. Goodbye to you, sir; I don’t appreciate your conduct here and will have nothing more to do with you on this nomination. Greg L (talk) 22:29, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rather than rudely and trollishly hijacking my topic for a bunch of personal attacks on me, I'd suggest you bring your problems up with me HERE. Secondly, thanks for explanation about the image and please don't come back. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 22:41, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • The painting is 174 years old, the colors in the original look so grey because over time they've faded lost their luster and I only retouched this to give Gazhiley a nicer version, though I'm not too sure of my own refurbishing abilities and don't really feel I should. So it's greyed up a little, big deal, it's an old piece of art, it's stood the test of time and still deserves featuring. I didn't scan this, I did modified Rama's version on Paint.NET. I don't know if you've ever seen the ocean, for all I know you could've spent your whole life in northern Utah, but that murky gray is what deep ocean water looks like. I'm also not the only one to attempt to revive this image: [3][4][5][6]. People have different methods for making friends, but I'd prefer to friends with someone who is polite, not someone who raises anger. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 00:59, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • You're working from a bad source image, the painting's quality isn't at question, it's the photograph of it. It's poor resolution. The whole phrase you can't polish a turd, comes into play here. I think your perceiving negative views on the picture as negative views of the painting, when that's not the case. If there was a better photograph to work with I'm sure it could be restored or even promoted. But with this source, it's not going to happen. — raeky (talk | edits) 01:10, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sure it concerns me, you can't bully people to promote your pictures by trying to get opposers banned if they rub you the wrong way. Keep up that approach and you'll likely be the one on the wrong end of the ban stick. Tongue-in-cheek opposes like Greg L's or even far more harsh opposes are run of the mill here, if you want to keep participating in FPC/VPC you need to learn to take criticism and rejection of your ideas/promotions. The whole purpose of this part of Wikipedia is to judge the merits of pictures on both fairly strict technical grounds and educational grounds. I mean look at some of TonyTheTiger‎'s nominations, hes not resorted to ANI's and trying to get us banned, and I'm sure he's wanted to ring my neck on many occasions for my comments. He's a respectable well trusted member of the WP community and knows where the limits are. I'm happy to work with him but I'm not going to withhold my opinion on his nominations. — raeky (talk | edits) 01:06, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • No, if it did concern you I wouldn't listed you along with him. I don't care what kind of "social hierarchy" you imagine here, but no users are higher than anyone else and neither I nor my vote is worth less than anyone else's, there is no caste system here! Just because someone has more listings of feature-picture candidate edits under their contributions doesn't mean I'm not allowed to disagree with them, and that is not going to get me a banning. I don't mind someone disagreeing, but, call me crazy, I follow WP's behavior guidelines. I've disliked images, but like Gazhiley and Elen I can keep my objections to the facts and let them speak for themselves. If they don't like people disagreeing with them than they should probably avoid me. Anyway, this is a whole major policy/philosophy discussion that's robbing the image of attention, doesn't belong here and we're not going to agree anyway. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 01:24, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment You're not going to be able to fix this by photoshopping it. My guess is that the original picture fills an end wall somewhere (paintings of sea battles tend to the outsize) - to get the image sharp enough to see it has to be much bigger than the average screen (and larger than 135k). And the painting itself may benefit from a clean.--Elen of the Roads (talk) 00:42, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • WithdrawnYou might be right and also THANK YOU for a good example of an oppose, some people here could learn a thing or two from you. I still feel like the image isn't getting fair consideration, but it's clearly not gonna get its due. It might not be featurable but it deserves a heck of a lot more respect than it's gotten here. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 01:24, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: Frankly, I think the opposes are a bit mad: This seems entirely in line to how naval battals appear in art, with a lot of dark tones. The edit is completely out of line with artistic convention or natural colouring. Further, many of the opposes appear to be based solely on the thumbnail: at even a slight zoom in, the details people are complaining they cannot see are perfectly visible. Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:38, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, there is still detail to be seen in the dark areas. I can’t speak for the others, but I certainly zoomed all the way in before voting. The image is still far too dark for me and there clearly isn’t enough dark information to work with in Photoshop. IMO, this image comes up well short of what I would consider “a high technical standard” required of FPCs. I strongly suspect the others here who found the picture too dark also fully zoomed in as well; it’s only too easy to zoom and that much effort is pretty much expected of anyone who is going to be weighing in with an opinion here. Besides, most anyone with much experience here feels that voting and expressing the underlying reasoning for their vote is an exercise akin to writing in a peer-reviewed paper: no one likes being odd-man-out just because they didn’t bother to actually inspect what is under consideration and instead based their decision off of a 250-pixel thumbnail.

    Oh… I also can not speak authoritatively to the issue of whether raeky, J Milburn, and Gazhiley are “a bit mad” and whether that shortcoming underlies their opinions that are somehow at odds with yours, but according to my 26 other personalities, “I’m” certainly not mad, and my multiple personalities are in the best position to know! So you and I might just have to agree to disagree and it might be best that you didn’t openly posit that those who disagree with you didn’t take the time to inspect the zoomed image like you did, or how others here might be a bit… uhmm… ‘off.’ Of course, if, by “mad,” you meant “angry,” then I again can’t vouch for all the others, but my tongue-in-cheek comment was certainly posted without malice towards anyone and I note that Gazhiley’s (“Too dark sorry”) doesn’t read as angry either. In fact, I suggest that all those who opined that this image does not rise to the level required of FPC candidates deserve a presumption that their opinions were based on the merits of the image and were not based on a lack of due diligence and anger and/or ‘nuttyness.’ Either way, (mad=nuts or mad=angry), I don’t think that’s the case. Greg L (talk) 03:58, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just to add, I zoomed, and I fiddled around with the settings on my monitor to see what I could bring out, before I made my comment (I know I didn't actually !vote, but I wouldn't have said it was good enough for featured picture, because that depends on both the subject and the image quality)Elen of the Roads (talk) 09:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • My oppose was not based on the colours- not being an expert in art history, I wouldn't want to guess whether the colours were right. I wasn't convinced about EV in the placements, and, even more so, I am concerned that this is nowhere near the size/quality of the original. J Milburn (talk) 11:43, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support to Original version, Beautiful illustration, good representation of a naval battle nice detail Sebastian 21:44, 4 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tian2992 (talk • contribs)
  • Oppose. For me, the main problem is that the quality of the photograph itself isn't up to par. The painting is fantastic and a detailed representation of naval warfare, but the scan has lines driving down the center and both far sides (perhaps tape from a slide in a book?) that cause some colour change, which bothers me. If a better scan--or bigger scan, for those who have a problem with the water detail--can be found, the image's quality and use would benefit greatly. Amphy (talk) 04:52, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Can I just draw people back to the EV here? In which article are people feeling there is high enough EV? J Milburn (talk) 11:29, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 05:18, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Apollo Bay

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Original - A panoramic view of the town of Apollo Bay, showing the main shopping strip on the Great Ocean Road (Collingwood St), the foreshore reserve with surrounding hills in background, and the Apollo Bay Golf Club backed by the beach and bay
Reason
Nicely illustrates the key features of the town in good detail showing how they link together and fit into the surroundings; the significant number of people in action throughout the picture add a bit of further interest. Good quality, and despite only being in one article, provides good EV.
Articles in which this image appears
Apollo Bay, Victoria
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Panorama
Creator
jjron
  • Support as nominator --jjron (talk) 16:41, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I find myself reflexively tilting my head, trying to see more off the bottom of the panorama. Also, the overcast day lends to a gloomy feel. Also, the scene appears to be a bunch of grass with some trees and just isn’t terribly interesting looking. These things aren’t fixable in Photoshop. I can certainly see that this image has excellent EV in illustrating the subject Apollo Bay; we should have more of these panoramas to illustrate places on Wikipedia. It’s just that this particular panorama doesn’t rise to FP-status in its genre. Greg L (talk) 20:33, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Nothing more to see at the bottom but more grass. I actually cropped some of it off as those fence posts etc you can see the tops of started looking messy. Neither here nor there anyway really cos you complain that there's too much grass as well, so would obviously oppose no matter what was there. --jjron (talk) 13:12, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. I had the same initial impression as Greg L. I think panoramas like this need more height - it feels particularly tight at the bottom. My main concern, though, is just that so much of the town is obscured and it doesn't illustrate the town very well. The infobox image in the article, if composed better and with more detail, would be better suited to a FP in my opinion. Still, it's a good image but just doesn't quite stand out for me. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 20:42, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Per above, more height would add nothing. Re second concern, unfortunately I was limited by the physics of light. --jjron (talk) 13:12, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Per above, it would be an improvement to the composition though IMO, even if not to the EV. I don't think you were limited by the physics of light so much as by can't-be-bothered-cycling-to-the-top-of-the-lookout-to-take-a-panorama-with-a-better-view-of-the-town. ;-) Ðiliff «» (Talk) 06:47, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • Actually cycled by a lookout with a great view coming into town (looks to be on the opposite side of town to that other one), but after about 95km in the saddle and whizzing past it at about 40km at the time I couldn't be fagged stopping. :-) Seriously though, I don't think it's a good precedent to be suggesting that these panos of towns should be 'aerial' shots, as we'll have a lot of delisting to do... --jjron (talk) 16:23, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
          • Yep, don't get me wrong, I can sympathise with being on the saddle all day. :-) But I don't think any precedents were in question. I wasn't, as you alluded to, expecting that all existing panoramas be replaced by aerial shots in order to be FP quality. Plenty of subjects are perfectly well illustrated at ground level - it's just that this one isn't (IMO). It's about making the most of your environment. In this case, there is a perfectly located hill providing a good vantage point to better encapsulate the town - sure, it wouldn't have as good detail 'at street level', but I think you'd gain EV more from it. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 16:36, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
            • My point being you're always going to see more of a place from the air, and you could oppose any ground-level pano for that reason. In some cases being higher up may give better EV, but for most pano shots I'd say it's more a case of different EV, not necessarily better EV. For example here, this image and the taxobox image show quite different things, so you're really comparing apples and oranges. --jjron (talk) 08:38, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I like it.--Mbz1 (talk) 21:25, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Should this be in the Great Ocean Road article?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:52, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • No, IMO. Sure, the town is on the Great Ocean Road, but there's virtually no sign of it in this image - it illustrates thw town, not the road. I think particularly with panoramas given their awkward proportions, there really has to be high EV to justify inclusion in an article. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 06:49, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Agree. I specifically didn't add it to that article for those reasons. FWIW I have some other images that better illustrate the GOR, which I'm going to add to that article shortly (not for FPC use though). --jjron (talk) 16:17, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose mostly per Greg L and Diliff. I don't think it illustrates either the town or the bay (the water probably takes up less than 2% of the image), and the low visibility probably meant that no (scenery) panorama shot on that day was going to come out great. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 00:31, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose- this is a little gloomy looking, because of the weather, and it's not really crystal clear what's being illustrated. The bar's been set high with panoramas. J Milburn (talk) 10:08, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. I hate to pile on here. It's a good image, overall, but I don't think it gives enough of a sense of the town - I've been there recently and didn't feel like this works to illusrate it. The other end of the park, by the sign, is where I would have taken an image. Featuring the Great Ocean Road and the town's orientation towards it is important. Mostlyharmless (talk) 12:46, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • I disagree, as you're just talking about a photo of the shopping strip; you see that and more here. I specifically for example wanted to include some of the golf course, which is rather iconic for the town, and a glimpse of how the town and golf course integrates with the bay. Photos from the other end of town show none of that. --jjron (talk) 16:32, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Withdrawn to move things along and free up space - obviously not going to swing back from here. BTW, I'm disappointed guys. Five days, five opposes, and yet nobody picked up the pair of 'twins' to use in their vote. :-) --jjron (talk) 08:30, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --J Milburn (talk) 09:19, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Eastern Rosella

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    Original
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    Male replacement
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    Female replacement
Reason
Per the talk page:

I've managed to take two photographs of the Eastern Rosella, one male and one female. They have consistent lighting, backgrounds and so on. Being taken at nearly the same time I'm of sure the sex of each animal. I feel that either of these individually is superior to File:Platycercus eximius diemenensis.jpg. The backgrounds are less distracting and there is more visible detail. A male/female pair in the taxobox would also have greater EV in my view. I wish to replace the first image with the other two, placing the new ones in the taxobox.

Articles this image appears in
Eastern Rosella, List of birds of Australia
Previous nomination/s
Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Platycercus eximius diemenensis.jpg
Nominator
Noodle snacks (talk)

Replaced with File:Platycercus eximius diemenensis male.jpg and File:Platycercus eximius diemenensis female.jpg. --Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:12, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

White-faced heron

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    Delist (breeding plumage)
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    Replace (non-breeding plumage)
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    Not in article (FP, breeding plumage), plan to reinstate
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    Taxobox (FP, juvenile)
Reason
There are Juvenile and Breeding Plumage FPs for this species. I propose to delist this one in favour of the new one so that there can be a featured picture of each in the article. No single image could give the same EV.
Articles this image appears in
White-faced Heron
Nominator
Noodle snacks (talk)
  • Promoted Image:Egretta novaehollandiae Tasmania 1.jpg
  • Delisted Image:Egretta novaehollandiae Tasmania 3.jpg

This will be treated as two separate nominations, a promotion and a delist. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:21, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1910 Houston Pano

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Original - Houston panorama c. 1910
Reason
A very decent set of photos for the time period, valuable to show the state of the city then. Restored / stitched version of File:1910 Houston pano - original.jpg
Articles in which this image appears
History of Houston
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Panorama
Creator
Unknown / Haines Photo Co. Restored by Jujutacular
  • Support as nominator --Jujutacular T · C 04:52, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Looks fine to me, and a great historical record of the city at the time... Gazhiley (talk) 10:52, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose The resolution seems pretty low with height = 636 !! Is there a way to obtain a higher quality scan? It should be noted that the stitching lines are clearly visible at full resolution. --Banzoo (talk) 14:24, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • We gotta cut older photographs some slack. The first photograph was way too grainy (which springs from the “rubber stamp” action of shrunken pitch being used to imprint ink on paper). I think we can forgive these things in images that were taken when guys who fought in the Civil War were still around. My problem with this one is it is framed too high. As it loaded in, I found myself reflexively tilting my head (where’s the rest?). Greg L (talk) 19:38, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • I am not questioning the technical issue when the photograph was taken, I understand that this is an old photo. But this shouldn't influence today's modern scanning and stitching methods to digitize the old photos. For instance, try comparing to this panorama which is few decades older than this one. --Banzoo (talk) 21:16, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • I can't debate, a higher quality scan is certainly possible, but it's certainly better than LOC's first scan. As for stitching though, I honestly don't see any lines. Could you annotate them on Commons perhaps? Jujutacular T · C 21:41, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • I don’t believe this is a digital stitching. Why would someone take a series of photographs in 1910 like this? I think it is abundantly clear that this panorama was made as such back in 1910 and this is just a single-piece scan of the original. What one got for seams back then is what we get today. I was doing stuff like this in 1969: photographers actually had to use scissors. Greg L (talk) 22:12, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
          • Someone put the pictures together by hand in the original: seen here, with clear lines between the photos. I digitally stitched those seams. Jujutacular T · C 03:35, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
            • I see. I struck my above post. It was “scissors and white space between them (way too easy). Although it might be *nice*, I wouldn’t expect someone to tackle the task of making the seams disappear after deleting the whitespace. I might add though, that the far-right frame could be lightened to make that junction look less noticeable; that’s the only one that jumps out at me. Greg L (talk) 03:55, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Oppose. Has potential, but it has some visible and distracting colour banding in the sky along the stitch lines. Since this is B&W, does anyone have a problem with applying complete desaturation? Ðiliff «» (Talk) 08:50, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 04:21, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sebastiano Venier

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Original - Jacopo Tintoretto's c. 1571 painting of Sebastiano Venier, Doge of Venice, at the Battle of Lepanto
Reason
This fine art reproduction is large enough to make out most of the brush strokes, which I think is probably sufficient resolution, though I'd ideally wish for a little more. I don't think I need to defend this image beyond that. As you may have noticed, I'm trying to seek out a variety of historic artworks to add to the FPC variety while I work on my current projects. [E.T.A. ...I was uploading one of those other projects, and forgot I was long enough to nominate this. God, this cold is making me absolutely loopy.]
Articles in which this image appears
Sebastiano Venier, House of Venier. It has been in those articles for some time. If promoted - hence indicating others agree with my appreciation of this - I'd suggest adding it to the article on the artist.
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Paintings
Creator
Jacopo Tintoretto

Not promoted --J Milburn (talk) 14:53, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Temple Grandin

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Original - Temple Grandin at TED (ted.com) giving a talk
Reason
Encyclopedic Value. Temple Grandin was born an autistic person who couldn't "speak before the age of 4," yet went on to be awarded a "Ph.D. in animal science." In addition to her economic importance—developing a standard for humanly processing cattle—she also is a fire cracker with quips like this from her TED talk.
Chris Anderson: You once wrote, [and] I like this quote, "If by some magic, autism had been eradicated from the face of the Earth, then men would still be socializing in front of a wood fire at the entrance to a cave." [Why did you write that?]
Temple Grandin Response: "Because who do you think made the first stone spears? The Asperger guy. And if you were to get rid of all the autism genetics there would be no more Silicon Valley, and the energy crisis would not be solved."
Temple Grandin is worth FP because she's of EV.
Articles in which this image appears
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Grandin
Creator
Steve Jurvetson

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 02:28, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Upland Sandpiper

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Original - An Upland Sandpiper (Bartramia longicauda) perched on a fence post in the Carden Alvar region, near Kirkfield, Ontario, Canada.
 
Cropped - Same photo, tighter crop. I agree with commenters that this one works better.
Reason
All the obvious checkmarks are there - high resolution, not overly manipulated shot in sharp focus under a free license. I think it's encyclopedic, and adds significantly to its article since the only other shot was a very low res pic where the bird was crowded out by grass. I also think he's rather an attractive little bird, and well captured.
Articles in which this image appears
Upland sandpiper
FP category for this image
Animals
Creator
johnath

Promoted File:UplandSandpiperOntarioCropped.jpg --Jujutacular T · C 13:10, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



BP Bridge parapets

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Original - The BP Pedestrian Bridge uses parapets instead of handrails.
Reason
This is a unique feature that is well documented with this photo.
Articles in which this image appears
Parapet
BP Pedestrian Bridge
FP category for this image
maybe Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
Creator
flickr user laffy4k
  • I think the nomination is about the parapets, not the bridge, you might be opposing too quickly. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 00:56, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • I can oppose as quickly as I like thank you... The pic has been nom'd for the article BP Pedestrian Bridge yet there is no way of knowing in this picture that this is a bridge... Parapet - ok but only ok... the other pictures in that article demonstrate Parapet's better IMO... This picture is unnecessary for the article as it is sufficiently imaged... And tbh the more I look at this picture the more it seems over-exposed to me - very washed almost, especially on the buildings behind... That better IdLoveOne? Still a very strong Oppose Gazhiley (talk) 14:00, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • And I could've said your original reason sounded bogus, irrelevant to the issue and like something some totally unexperienced newbie to WP:FPC would say as quickly as I wanted to, but no, unlike you I was more patient as stayed to the topic at hand, that's all. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 20:39, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • Really? Are you really saying my comment was away from the topic at hand?!! If a picture is nominated as representing the BP Pedestrian Bridge then my comment of "where's the bridge" is ENTIRELY relevant to the topic at hand... And speed of opposing has nothing to do with whether you're a newbie or not - it was obvious to me within a few seconds that this was terrible EV-wise for the bridge, so I made the comment... Grow up... Gazhiley (talk) 21:58, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
          • If the nomination was called "BP Bridge" that would be a different story, but it's not, it's "BP bridge parapets," meaning just that. This particular aspect of the bridge is what we should focus on and whether or not it's feature-worthy for what it is. Your argument that you're opposed to this just because you can't see the whole bridge is half moot, and the fact that you're so crabby about this issue means that you're the one that needs to grow up. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 00:33, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
            • I'm striking my last comment - I apologise I was (and still am) very ill and therefore grouchy when I wrote the above comment... I am however sticking to my stance that while this picture is being used in the bridge article, it is therefore irrelevant what the nom name is - I strong oppose as the bridge is not in shot... Gazhiley (talk) 18:04, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
            • (supplement) NBD, I actually did agree with you and didn't really think it stood much chance, maybe if it was from a higher angle and we could see more than just a few feet of its outer shell... Maybe even SOME of the bridge.. Get healthy soon. =) --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 01:56, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 20:40, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Aurora australis

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Original - The aurora australis as seen from the International Space Station.
 
Edit - Small edits to attempt to denoise.
Reason
A fantastic image from an unusual angle. The low light explains the graininess, and it would be hard to get a better camera into this position.
Articles in which this image appears
Aurora (astronomy)
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured_pictures/Sciences/Astronomy
Creator
NASA/ISS Expedition 23 crew
  • Comment. Since Wikipedia is a place of learning, I thought many who voted “support” on this one would like to know about the Solar storm of 1859, also known as the “Richard Carrington flare.” It was a coronal mass ejection that was a once-in-a-thousand-year event. Notwithstanding the rarity of such an event, Richard Carrington, a solar astronomer, happen to be mapping the very sunspot that produced the flare. He was making measurements using an 11-inch projected image on a white-topped mapping table when the white-light eruption burst forth with blinding intensity. According to our own Wikipedia article, the next day, “Aurorae were seen around the world, most notably over the Caribbean; also noteworthy were those over the Rocky Mountains that were so bright, the glow awoke gold miners, who began preparing breakfast because they thought it was morning.” More about Carrington’s Sept. 1, 1859 super-flare is available here at NASA’s A Super Solar Flare. That article speaks of how “Just before dawn the next day, skies all over planet Earth erupted in red, green, and purple auroras so brilliant that newspapers could be read as easily as in daylight.” It also tells of how “telegraph systems worldwide went haywire. Spark discharges shocked telegraph operators and set the telegraph paper on fire. Even when telegraphers disconnected the batteries powering the lines, aurora-induced electric currents in the wires still allowed messages to be transmitted.” Greg L (talk) 02:38, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    P.S. Oh, BTW, my 88-year-old mother was born in 1922. She lived in an old mining town that had wooden sidewalks and a single, dirt road through town. Mail in the winter came by horse-drawn sleigh once a week. When she was six years old, there were several old men in their early 80s who lived in cabins on the edge of town. They had come to north Idaho to escape being drafted into the Civil War. My own mother met men who might well have witnessed the Solar Storm Of 1859. Greg L (talk) 02:43, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • It's just a suggestion because I do want to support this, but with the graininess as it is I just don't feel this is one of the best images on Wikipedia. We've got plenty of images as astounding as this that were even harder to get and make and in higher quality, therefore I don't support these candidate images - As is, but that's my minor opinion and everyone else sees it differently than I do anyhow. This is a great image, so I guess it'll still be nice to see one of these get FP. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 03:46, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment WTF. How is the 12 image of a fully illustrated article great EV and images that are the main image of multiple articles not high EV?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:42, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • This is maybe why you are having issues with FPC editors - EV isn't just based on whether it is the main or indeed only picture in an article. it's whether that picture tells you what you need to know about the subject... This is a great and pretty much unique angle of the Aurora Australis and as such has high EV in an article that as you pointed out has 12 other images... Having the other images there does not reduce this picture's EV... The pictures you spam across multiple articles have low EV for their placements as the pictures usually have no bearing to the article other than co-incidence or "say so"... For example your sports centre picture the other day... Saying it should go in Counterweight is not right, as it does not show a counterweight in the picture, and therefore the picture has low EV. there may be counterweights in the building, but you cannot see that from the picture, and thus the picture is a bad example of counterweights... So irrespective of how many pictures are in the Aurora (astronomy) article, this picture has high EV as it actually shows the topic of the article... Gazhiley (talk) 11:05, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • I agree 100%. We’ve all seen a gazillion pictures of the aurora from ground. Seeing one from this vantage point (like the ISS was going to fly right over the top of it) is an exceedingly rare privilege. This is a truly amazing image that provides insight into the large-scale structure of aurora that one can only imagine from an earth-bound point of view. Greg L (talk) 18:14, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support original - the noise only adds to the amazing piece of art that this picture is. - Negative Twoth —Preceding undated comment added 01:41, 2 July 2010 (UTC).[reply]
  • Support per above. Noodle snacks (talk) 13:18, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I know that there is a really big snow ball above me, but I don't find this image inspiring. While naturally wondrous, it lacking in clarity. Gut Monk (talk) 00:25, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Very good EV.--Mbz1 (talk) 21:34, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. I get that the quality isn't omg!brilliant, but this is an incredibly rare image and the fact we have it at all makes the EV very, very high. I prefer the original for the colour quality, but either works. Amphy (talk) 05:05, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments on the edit vs. the original, please. Which do we prefer? Makeemlighter (talk) 02:49, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Aurora Australis From ISS.JPG --Makeemlighter (talk) 21:05, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Brown Bear Running

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Original - Brown bear (Ursus arctos arctos) running. From Skandinavisk Dyrepark, Denmark.
Reason
The criteria seems to be met and EV is certainly there.
Articles in which this image appears
Eurasian Brown Bear List of mammals of Croatia
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Mammals
Creator
Malene
  • Comment Although *blur* is the outcome, the reason underlying it doesn’t appear to be depth of field and instead appears to be motion blur (1/320th of a second). The bear’s hindquarters appear to be shaking off water. Also, since the camera was panning to track the bear, no part of the grass (either behind the bear or in front of it) is sharp. I don’t see any of this as being a deal breaker (much like a photo of a Formula racing car); the bear’s head has been captured tack sharp. Greg L (talk) 18:05, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Looks to me like it's got both issues: DOF (back of the bear is out of focus, but front is decently sharp), and motion blur (front paws blurry, as they were probably moving faster than the camera was panning). Jujutacular T · C 18:47, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I agree the above two opposes, but I have feeling this has a good chance of pulling through, maybe because the image is so likable. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 20:47, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Greg L gives all the reason why I support. A better camera would have helped this shot, but it's still good enough.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Gut Monk (talk • contribs)
  • Support I really like the expression on the bear’s face; that’s one happy camper. Greg L (talk) 19:02, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support The focus/blur problems aren't too distracting in my opinion, and the shot by itself is quite impressive. XeroJavelin (talk) 20:45, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support. This isn't the perfect shot, but it captures the motion and shows what the bear looks like very nicely. I have no problem with this being a featured picture. J Milburn (talk) 11:59, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. I especially like the expression on the bear's face. Kind of reminds me of a dog. The Utahraptor Talk 15:19, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Not really close to the current standard we have for animal pictures (see the mammals page, for instance). The subject is mostly out of focus, and the composition isn't particularly good. From an EV standpoint, a head shot should be something like   or   and a side shot more like   or  . Those images, while mostly lousy, give a much clearer sense of what the bear actually looks like. Makeemlighter (talk) 19:19, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment Of these four, only one is a brown bear, but it has insufficient resolution to meet the minimum criteria for FPC. The others are for other types of bears. Is there a superior picture of a brown bear that at least meets the FPC minimums? Greg L (talk) 20:20, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • That wasn't the point. Those are examples of what a good shot would look like. Yeah, they stink, but they were taken from better angles and have higher EV because they do a better job showing what a bear looks like. Makeemlighter (talk) 22:11, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Along the same lines previously explored by Greg L, Jujutacular, J Milburn. You can't technically improve this shot much. I expect it won't stay in the taxobox forever for reasons pointed out by Makeemlighter, but it has a definite place in the article as an illustration of a *running* bear (we'd also feature a bird in flight and at rest, or any animal once resting and once feeding). And if any more comparison is needed, this bear FP is one I'm not so sure about. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 22:47, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support I'm not sure the flaws are entirely forgivable, this isn't an extinct animal, so it's highly reproducible, we tend to have high quality standards for these types of photographs. Although I do appreciate the artistic side that the blur representing motion to emphasize that it was a moving dynamic animal and a faster shutter speed although freezing the motion would loose that detail. Similar how we prefer long exposures for water movement.. but also my technical side seems to think that the focus wasn't perfect, his face isn't entirely in focus, seems the focal point was a bit behind his head, the puff of fir on his shoulder looks to be about the focal point, so that is a fairly big technical flaw. — raeky (talk | edits) 00:57, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose It is back focussed, with the focus point being on the shoulder rather than the head. I also believe that it would not be that difficult to reproduce. Noodle snacks (talk) 11:02, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I dont mind the motion blur but the lack of focus on the head is a bummer --Muhammad(talk) 11:29, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • weak support It looks like an image taken in a wild, but it probably is not--Mbz1 (talk) 21:30, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What an absurd reason to hold back a vote.--Iankap99 (talk) 03:16, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted —Maedin\talk 12:01, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Edward Teller, 1958 (2)

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Original - Edward Teller is known as the father of the hydrogen bomb
 
Dust & scratches
 
Dust & scratches and fewer smudges
Reason
This is a high EV image. I am not sure if I should crop out the picture that is cut off above the subject
Articles in which this image appears
Edward Teller
History of the Teller–Ulam design
History of nuclear weapons
List of George Washington University faculty
Hungary
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Others
Creator
U.S. Government
  • Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:40, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Conditional support There is a lot of dust and hair that needs to be cleaned. The original crop seems odd, but the photographer clearly wanted to include the pictures of the calutron and the A-bomb test. The subject is interesting, the contrast and brightness are great, and it is of enormous historical significance. If others are in agreement, I’ll volunteer to clean this. Greg L (talk) 00:48, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • P.S. (a little bit of nice but “irrelevant” info): Here’s Jumbo, 214 tons of a steel containment vessel. In event that Gadget during the Trinity test didn’t do it’s “nuclear thing,” they were thinking they’d set it off inside Jumbo so the precious plutonium could be recovered. They delivered Jumbo to the test site but decided not to use it because A) they figured the odds of Gadget not working were slim, and B), they feared that when Gadget went nuclear, it might blow pieces of Jumbo all over the desert. So they set Jumbo 800 yards away from the shot tower. It suffered hardly a scratch from the explosion. We need an article on Jumbo—I’m not seeing it in the disambiguation. Greg L (talk) 01:07, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose until cleaned. Easy to do, even with free software such as GIMP. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 11:38, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Mildly support I don't like supporting this nomination because of its technical standard, but he is really really important. Gut Monk (talk) 22:37, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment His eyes look goofy. Do you know why? He has one blue eye and one hazel eye. He is a bichromate. Gut Monk (talk) 22:37, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • NOTE Seeing that there is support for this if it is cleaned up, I’ll do so now… Greg L (talk) 16:24, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support “Dust & scratches” “Dust & scratches and fewer smudges” The crop seems odd, but the photographer clearly wanted to include the pictures of the calutron and the A-bomb test. The subject is interesting, the contrast and brightness are great, and it is of enormous historical significance. Greg L (talk) 18:01, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support "Dust & scratches and fewer smudges". Looks like a reasonably clean photo now. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 22:02, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Sorry to be the boring one, but do we know the copyright status of the photos in the background? I do not feel comfortable featuring a picture that prominently includes copyrighted work; it's not great from a philosophical standpoint, but I think these may be too big for de minimis, meaning, if they aren't PD, we may not be legit legally. J Milburn (talk) 10:13, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • It's highly likely that those images are government works, and since they've been named, it should be possible to find out if that is the case. I have my doubts that Teller would have gone to an outside source to decorate his office, but in any case - let's check! Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 12:33, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • In fact, the nuke photo is very similar to this exposure of the same event. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 12:36, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • I can find no non-US-gvmt images of the Calutron racetrack, and similarly for Upshot/Badger. I don't see why we should have to censor where the LLNL does not. As far as I can tell, we're simply following their lead in good faith. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 13:28, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • I’m not sure about the caultron image, but there isn’t enough of that one showing so this would clearly be a fair-use for that one. As for the a-bomb test, all those Trinity shots are DOE photos. I know because back in the early 80's I actually spoke with Harold Edgerton over the phone—I called him at his house—because I wanted to get the top-most Rapatronic image here (which is of a test after Trinity). He told me to contact DOE. Besides, both those images are roughly 680 pixels across but are blurry as all get out. The fuzziness doesn’t remotely diminish until they are only 200 pixels across—and they’re both image fragments.

        BTW, in that Raptatronic image, the bomb hasn’t really quite begun exploding (in the classical sense where the casing is flying apart) yet. The core exploded and gamma rays instantly flashed through the bomb’s casing and ionized the air surrounding the bomb. That’s the millisecond-long flash seen at the beginning of all atom-bomb explosions. In that topmost Rapatronic image, the ionized air is cooling off and is once again becoming transparent to light. Wicked. In the Rapatronic photo below it, hot gas from the actual exploded bomb is visible. That’s why you get millisecond flash, millisecond dark, and then long-persisistence bright: the signature of an A-bomb explosion.

        You get this effect where the air surrounding the bomb “explodes” before the bomb casing does because the plutonium pit at the heart of an atom bomb fully fissions very, very quickly. It takes roughly 82 fission generations (fissioning nucleus to cause two others to fission), or “shakes” for a plutonium pit to finish fissioning. Each shake averages only 10 nanoseconds. Some 94% of the energy released by an A-bomb is generated in the last four shakes; that is, 94% of an A-bomb’s yield is generated in only 0.04 millionth of a second. Quick stuff. Greg L (talk) 17:30, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support "Dust & scratches and fewer smudges" - Mostly as above. Adam Cuerden (talk) 18:02, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Just not a great shot, IMO. Awkward composition with cut off pictures at the top and too tight crop on the sides (particularly the left). The picture is pretty much completely unappealing too - the wall is horrid and Teller looks rather displeased with the whole situation. I'm not a big fan of portraits, in general, since they typically do nothing more than show us what a person looks like. So I'd say this has decent EV but not enough to be a FP. Makeemlighter (talk) 22:55, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Support Teller is known for the bomb, and the photographer by including the two images, although making the picture awkwardly composed, accomplishes in a single picture to get the essence of what the man is known for. I think it could of been executed better, and yes the wall is horrid looking, hes not making the best face, and it's just strangely composed. So it gets a week support for me. — raeky (talk | edits) 23:23, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:EdwardTeller1958 fewer smudges.jpg —Maedin\talk 12:09, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Chicago River at night

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Original - The Chicago River at night, as seen from the Lake Street bridge.
Reason
I’ve been on one of the many boat tours of the Chicago River during the day. That section of Chicago is a bit like Venice, where the river is like a canal. I had no idea the river could be beautiful at night. I mention this because I suspect this nomination will live or die based on EV. I think it does have EV to illustrate what “Chicago River” looks like (at night). Clearly, it is gorgeous. I’m certain very many of our regular I.P. readership, when they are at Wikipedia’s main page, will stop on this one and click the link. Simply stunning.
Articles in which this image appears
Chicago River
FP category for this image
Chicago River
Creator
Mike Boehmer
  • Support as nominator --Greg L (talk) 16:39, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support For a night image, this seems pretty good. I'm not a photography expert, but it does look to have quality. Adam Cuerden (talk) 17:15, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment This image should be added to Merchandise Mart and Kinzie Street railroad bridge (the raised bridge I believe) and maybe Franklin Street Bridge (which I think is the bridge to the right). If I could recall the name of the Holiday Inn building or the building to the left, I would suggest them also if they have articles. I was at that Holiday Inn last spring when Toni Preckwinkle made her speach following her primary win.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:57, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • It has quite a load of artifacts in the bottom left part. My guess the come from using JPG files as the base for HDR-tonemapping. The operator that was used increases local contrast, which in flat dark areas leads to enhancement of noise/artifacts. Overall sharpness could be better, and while doing exposure bracketing the range should have been extended to shorter exposures. Almost al highlights are blown. For my taste the image is too flickr'ish gimmicky, puting an emphasis on making the scene look as colored and saturated as possible, rather than using the increased dynamic range to create an authentic rendition of the scene. --Dschwen 18:28, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yes, I now see the jpeg-aggravated, dark-area noise at the very bottom-left in the water, Dschwen. I can easily fix that if it is an important deal-breaker for anyone here. As for the exposure chosen and the resultant brightness of the image and its color saturation: indeed, artsy flourish (“gimmicky,” as you put it) is an issue we often wrestle with here on pictures. Artsy flourish should be mostly verboten on daylight pictures. But pretty much any time exposure or time-lapse video are the sort of things the camera sees that the eye does not. What appeared at first to be defective pixels above the buildings proved to be some of the brighter stars visible at night. Given that some stars are visible in this picture—but not too many—this time exposure doesn’t seem to have strayed into *outlandish* territory for a night-adapted eye. Clearly, the picture “Avoids inappropriate digital manipulation.” I would hope that it passes because “at the end of the day” (my wife hates that expression), if this gets onto the Main Page for 24 hours, I think very many visitors will be truly captivated by the beauty of the image and will click on the article and will learn about how Chicago has a canal-like river. It sure is gorgeous. Greg L (talk) 19:13, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • While I'm nit-picking. The image appears tilted, and the verticals do not look well adjusted. There also are dark spots in the water that look like clipped and blackend highlights. All in all there are too many technical problems with this image. On top of that I do not like the style and I do not like the compositional decisions the photographer made. Everything is either very crammed almost touching the edge of the frame or is cut off. Chicago is not running away. This image should be re-shot, and not promoted in this state. Oppose. --Dschwen 20:58, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, per Dschwen, flickr kitsch. --Alchemist-hp (talk) 20:14, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. You were right about the EV thing. This is just another image in an image-heavy article, as far as I can see. Doesn't seem to be illustrating anything in particular. J Milburn (talk) 02:19, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 22:49, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Eastern Spinebill

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Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 13 Jul 2010 at 09:12:09 (UTC)

 
Original - Eastern Spinebill (Acanthorhynchus tenuirostris) female
Reason
I quite like the acrobatic pose, heath and pollen on the beak.
Articles in which this image appears
Eastern Spinebill
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Birds
Creator
Noodle snacks

Promoted File:Acanthorhynchus tenuirostris female.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 22:51, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Crescent Honeyeater Male

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Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 13 Jul 2010 at 08:36:45 (UTC)

 
Original - Crescent Honeyeater (Phylidonyris pyrrhopterus), Male
 
Three alternates
Crop 1: Top and right cropped, my personal favorite because it's all about the bird in this one.
 
Crop 2: Right cropped only. Still adds emphasis to the bird, but more above background.
 
Crop 3: Top cropped only. Emphasis still added, but it looks more like a postcard, which I actually kind of like.
Reason
One can see the crescents for which this species is named. The species is sexually dimorphic
Articles in which this image appears
Crescent Honeyeater, Phylidonyris
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Birds
Creator
Noodle snacks
  • I only (and foolishly) made the crops 2 and 3 based on other suggestions I read here, real smart to add more possible versions for people to quarrel over, huh? Having thought about it the only one I will support is crop 1 because it has more bird, less dreary background, unless perhaps Noodle Snacks can make a version that will appease us all. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 09:15, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's why I'm not outright opposing it. It does seem to be technically correct, but it's boring, the preview image looks great, but it's the full-shot I have an issue with. Something about the focus, maybe it's that there's too much bland and unnecessary green and grey around the bird. Maybe a crop would look nicer? --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 21:35, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment on crops: prefer original, oppose crops. I really do not see the need to crop differently here. Crop 2 is especially unappealing, as the above space feels so dead with the line of sight of the bird cut off on the right. In the original - the above space is necessary to follow the diagonal line given by the birds position. Jujutacular T · C 18:49, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Shots like this are very difficult to take; if you don't believe me, try it yourself for an hour or two. This one is especially good because the eye gravitates towards the subject. It may be helpful to crop a little off the right hand side. Shii (tock) 03:33, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support original, oppose crops: I'm baffled by Gut Monk's comment regarding dynamics. It's precisely the opposite of what I was thinking. The bird looks alert and active, as if he has either just alighted or is about to take off. Good angle, as it addresses the main colourings given in the article: dark grey plumage, yellow wing patch, paler underparts. (P.S. No to a crop—it seems just right how it is.) Maedin\talk 06:29, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I just don't get your reasoning, you supported this image which has a much more bland unimportant backdrop, this background gives a hint to it's natural environment which makes it less bland and more important? — raeky (talk | edits) 00:33, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually my feeling for this image is similar to that one, except that I feel the background in that one isn't as hard to look at because it's smoother, not lumps of green and grey from some pine tree, and I did prefer the cropped version to the original where we weren't drowned in a sea of green, as did you. What's so wrong for suggesting a minor edit like a crop? Many candidate images are tweaked and improved in-candidacy. The whole of the bird itself is in good quality and I appreciate his dedication to photography, but I feel that Noodle Snacks can do better than this, I also see that Shii agrees. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 01:01, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nothing wrong with suggesting a crop, and if you'd like to crop it and add it to the nomination for voting, feel free to do so. That's certainly preferable to implying that experienced users have supported an image without even viewing it at full size first. Maedin\talk 06:31, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • phew Kind of wanted to so I could show what I had in mind but didn't want to be presumptuous. NS did crop it a bit, but I really wanted to see more of the bird he worked so hard to photograph - don't be afraid to crop! I hope you guys can see these before they're deleted, Noodle did license that the image could be remixed. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 08:15, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Original Only Keep up the great work, we do really appreciate the time you put into taking these photographs! — raeky (talk | edits) 15:20, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support original, another wonderful shot. I'm not wild about the crops, and have contacted IdLoveOne concerning their licensing, which I don't think is legit... (Also, damn you for making me read the full text of a CC license :P) J Milburn (talk) 10:25, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • To the above: I didn't want to be "bitey," but I think your views are biased. I think your discernment is clouded out of loyalty to Noodle snacks and that you are completely ignoring the fact that the original is mostly background color that adds nothing of value to the image and fails to give the subject its rightful glory. That's unfair, that's not procedure and that's not what makes a good image or critic. You don't just vote for the incumbent because you know his name. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 17:55, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • BIAS - In this you opted for LESS quote-unquote "lead room," here's another with virtually no "lead room" and not a single critical word from you, how stupid do you think I am? If you want to just pic favorite users to support, fine, but I still hold my opposition to the bland, empty original. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 18:08, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • IdLoveOne, constant accusations are hardly very becoming. It's NS's image regardless of who did the crop, so I can't really see where loyalty would come into it. J Milburn (talk) 18:09, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • In any case, there is lead room in both of those images (PLW reverses the lead room to show off the movement- I don't personally think it was the best choice, but lead room is still there). Further, compositionally, they are very different images, so it's hardly fair to compare them. We're not all out to get you, I promise. J Milburn (talk) 18:11, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I wouldn't have said that if it didn't appear that Raeky votes for everything Noodle snacks uploads. I'm not saying out to get me, not that paranoid, I just don't like seeing unfair behavior and unfair advantages given to others. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 18:14, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I vote in favour of most of the images NS nominates as well- that's nothing to do with the fact that it's NS, it's the fact that the images he nominates are great! I can assure you Raeky does not support everything NS nominates- for instance, just yesterday he opposed this nomination. J Milburn (talk) 18:27, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support original Perhaps in a taxobox crop 1 would be preferred, but as a photograph, I think the original is best. 99of9 (talk) 05:33, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - I'll probably annoy a few people with this, but I really rather like crop 3 - the focus is drawn to the bird as a whole, yet there's enough space to the right so that it doesn't feel cramped. I respect the point about keeping the diagonal with the space above the bird, but there my focus is drawn straight to the eye, rather than the bird as a whole. Which is generally good, but in this case I prefer the other option. Plus I generally prefer the ratio on crop three, as it is interesting in itself. That said, I'm not opposed to the original, so if that's the way consensus goes I'm happy with that - but crop 3 does it best for me. :) - Bilby (talk) 07:05, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Phylidonyris pyrrhopterus male.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 22:52, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Charles XIV John of Sweden

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Original - Jean Baptiste Bernadotte, Marshal of France, King of Sweden (1818). Joseph Nicolas Jouy, after François-Joseph Kinson. Painting of the recently-crowned Charles XIV John of Sweden, commissioned by Napoleon for the Hall of the Marshals in the Tuileries Palace.
Reason
A high-quality reproduction, easily the best image we have for this king.
Articles in which this image appears
Charles XIV John of Sweden, Union between Sweden and Norway, Monarchy of Norway
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Royalty and/or Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Military
Creator
Joseph Nicolas Jouy, after François Joseph Kinson. Photo by Gérard Blot.

Promoted File:Jean-Baptiste-Jules Bernadotte, Prince de Ponte-Corvo, roi de Suède, Maréchal de France (1763-1844).jpg --Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 15:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



At Breakfast

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Original - Ved frokostbordet og morgenaviserne [At Breakfast], an 1898 artwork by L. A. Ring
Reason
Finally, another really good reproduction of an artwork! The edges give good evidence of being the edges of the canvas, and, at around 10 megapixels, the resolution is reasonably high, and quality good. =)
Articles in which this image appears
L. A. Ring
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Paintings
Creator
L. A. Ring

Promoted File:Laurits Andersen Ring - Ved frokostbordet og morgenaviserne.jpg --Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 15:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Willis Tower2

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Original - Willis Tower, shot from the Chicago River.
 
Edit1 Hugin corrections by TonyTheTiger (talk · contribs)
 
Edit2 Hugin corrections and change aspect ratio by TonyTheTiger (talk · contribs)
Reason
This is one of the most photographed buildings in the world from a great angle. It has high EV on WP.
Articles in which this image appears
Chicago
Willis Tower
List of architects of supertall buildings
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
Creator
Daniel Schwen (User:Dschwen)

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 04:37, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Xantho poressa, female at spawning time

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Original - Xantho poressa, female at spawning time
Reason
Good quality and EV, rare photo in Web. Featured on Commons Wikimedia, used in other national Wikis.
Articles in which this image appears
Xantho poressa
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Others
Creator
George Chernilevsky

Not promoted --Jujutacular T · C 13:28, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Kalākaua

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New Original - Kalākaua, the last King of Hawaii (reigned in 1874—1891)
 
Dust cleaned
Reason
Photo, showing the last Hawaiian monarch in the official attire with good resolution
Articles in which this image appears
Kalākaua, Hawaii and many others
FP category for this image
People
Creator
Uncredited, kept in the Hawai'i State Archives
  • Support as nominator --Twilightchill t 15:31, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: The EV is clear; this has a real chance. However, the image is scratched, dirty and noisy. It would really benefit from some restoration. J Milburn (talk) 15:40, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    So far I have little time for restoration. Could someone else please? Twilightchill t 16:49, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The contrast and brightness is so far off, it isn’t close to being ready for consideration. And these things are very easy to fix. I’m just gonna fix it and replace this one with the new one. I’ll keep a copy of the old one just in case someone has a coronary. Greg L (talk) 18:01, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Done. Only the contrast, range, and brightness. Optimized for well-adjusted monitors. I didn’t horse around with dust & scratches. Let’s see what others think of this picture’s potential before anyone addresses that. Greg L (talk) 18:08, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • It's a good start, but I don't feel it's quite enough, yet. It just needs some of the dust and scratches cleaning out. J Milburn (talk) 23:49, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Let’s see if we can get one or two more editors who think this is FP material if the dust & scratches are fixed. It took me only 7 minutes to fix the contrast and brightness, re-upload the image, and come here and post that I did so. Dust & scratches typically takes much longer—for me, anyway. I’ll volunteer if no one else steps up to the plate first. Greg L (talk) 02:10, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Considering it is a historical shot I think the scratches and the dust while not strictly necessary do not entirely degrade from the piece and it has very high EV. I would not object to it being suspended for restoration though. Cat-five - talk 04:53, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support That took only 25 minutes to digitally clean the image of dust. Plus 15 minutes horsing around on Commons because the template-based content generator didn’t work for me for some reason. Greg L (talk) 05:22, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Template-based content generator? Gut Monk (talk) 16:56, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • On Commons, one is stepped through a process where you are eventually taken to a template that makes the violet-colored (“Description”, “Date” biz). One is supposed to fill in some blanks with one’s username, etc. I probably wasn’t careful and accidentally made two fields into a single, nonsense thing the template couldn’t parse. Instead of getting nice tabular colored fields, I had a data-ralph that looked like this. Greg L (talk) 04:15, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • For whatever reason I always find those Commons templates incredibly too long-winded and restrictive, so bypass them to do it manually in a fraction of the time. --jjron (talk) 17:24, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support cleaned. Adam Cuerden (talk) 20:35, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support although I was the one who uploaded from the Hawaii archives last week. And looking at the original original, its contrast was not so bad. So something I did in my upload must have made it worse. Maybe my monitor was badly adjusted. Why not just put the dust cleared version into the old name, so the articles pick that one up? Anyone who wants the old media can still get back the older version. Right now the articles are using the dusty variant. But to be clear, he was not the last monarch; that was Queen Lili'uokalani, his sister. He was the last ruling King. W Nowicki (talk) 18:41, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, forgot that, but the caption is correct anyway, that's more important. Twilightchill t 21:59, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, and the diacritic is corect in the caption too (long "a"). Looks like someone changed all the references to add the "dust" suffix to the articles? Is that the usual policy? Anyway, maybe this will motivate someone to improve the article too, it needs some work. W Nowicki (talk) 21:40, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Kingdavidkalakaua dust.jpg --Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 15:48, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Eidsvoll riksraad 1814

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Original - The painting Riksforsamlingen på Eidsvoll 1814 was probably begun in 1882. The picture includes 55 portraits of the constitutional fathers. (Not all of the 112 persons are viewable.) It is today located in the Norwegian Parliament, behind the speaker's platform and the presidential podium.
 
Edit 1: This is what I'd expect the colours to look like - though that doesn't mean I'm right. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:05, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 
Edit 2: Or maybe it's between the two?
Reason
High resolution and high quality image of one of Norway's most famous paintings. Illustrating a major turning point in Norwegian history.
Articles in which this image appears
Constitution of Norway

Union between Sweden and Norway Treaty of Kiel Norway in 1814 Monarchy of Norway Norwegian Constituent Assembly Oscar Wergeland Norway Template:Norwegian-people

FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/History/Others

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Paintings

Creator
Oscar Wergeland

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 19:46, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Yttrium

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Original - Yttrium, element number 39
Reason
Another fine example of Alchemist-hp's work; I like this one's interesting growth patterns.
Articles in which this image appears
Yttrium, Group 3 element
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Sciences/Materials science
Creator
Alchemist-hp
  • Support as nominator --Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:54, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, fantastic. J Milburn (talk) 00:29, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support (*sigh*) Another one from Alchemist. Why don’t we give this guy a perpetual-FP license? Good work, Mr. Alchemist. Greg L (talk) 00:30, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I can't even imagine how much all these samples cost, your access to them and willingness to photograph them for us is such an invaluable service I can't even express in words how grateful we are. — raeky (talk | edits) 01:24, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • There's probably at most 85 elements that one could practically photograph (Francium and higher are very reactive and/or radioactive, and Technetium is very, very rare. We have 14 featured pictures of elements under Materials science, and Platinum under Geology (as the nugget happens to be natural). Alchemist-hp has created all of these. That's amazing, and I'm eyeing several more, like Scandium which are up to the same quality. He is probably one of the most important creators of scientific content on Wikipedia. [Not to deny other good work - Noodle snacks, for example, has a lot of amazing mineral photos; however, Alchemist-hp completely dominates this particular niche - over 1/6th of all photographable elements have featured pictures by him, and the number is set to increase. Noone else even has one.] Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:47, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • I'm sure his samples are extraordinarily expensive, they're all very high purity and some of these rare earths, like this one, is very hard to purify. I hope we eventually get all 85 of those as FP's. Would be invaluable to the encyclopedia. Would be nice if some of the radioactives are featured too, but that could be difficult to do. And of the naturally occurring elements, we'll never get a nice lump of Astatine, any picture showing a quantity of Astatine would be FP worthy for sure, regardless of quality. — raeky (talk | edits) 01:53, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • Forgot Astatine, and Polonium is probably highly restricted. Plus, I thought we had one of Radon, but we don't (just a photoshopped speculative image)... so reduce my count to 82. We might get one or two of the radioactives on top of that, but if we ever had those 82 featured, it would be an incredible achievement =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 05:26, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Really love the coiling crystal tendrils on the bottom left. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 01:45, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- George Chernilevsky talk 05:48, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. I love the growth pattern (or whatever it's called) on the left sample. Quite neat, & of course great quality/EV. Amphy (talk) 07:02, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Beautiful - Peripitus (Talk) 09:14, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support—extraordinary shapes and textures, lovely against the background and in relation to each other. Tony (talk) 15:56, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Yttrium sublimed dendritic and 1cm3 cube.jpg --Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 00:02, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Lasiodora parahybana (Brazilian salmon pink birdeater)

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Original - Lasiodora parahybana (Brazilian salmon pink birdeater)
Reason
Good quality and EV, featured on Commons. Used in some national Wikis
Articles in which this image appears
Lasiodora parahybana
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Arachnids
Creator
George Chernilevsky
  • Oppose I think the vantage point of above the animal isn't the most attractive, a closer to ground vantage point would of been better, and I think the sand backdrop isn't very natural for Brazilian spider... — raeky (talk | edits) 02:21, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. I already commented on this picture at COM:QIC, the lighting is not ideal at all. The dark shadows blend in with the spider and make its contours hard to see. --Dschwen 20:09, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, I'm sorry, I'm not wild about this. The angle isn't right for me, and the fact it's on sand is a little... Odd. J Milburn (talk) 23:50, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 05:25, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Australian Magpie, Cracticus tibicen tyrannica

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Original - Australian Magpie, Cracticus tibicen tyrannica on the southern Victorian coast
 
Alt edit - Noodle snacks' edit of an alternative version of this bird
Reason
High quality illustration of the Australian Magpie. While we already have an FP of this species, File:Cracticus tibicen tibicen juvinile ANBG.jpg, that is a different subspecies and a juvenile, so I don't think that's an issue, plus this one shows other details, such as the full legs and feet.
Articles in which this image appears
Australian Magpie
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Birds
Creator
jjron
  • Yeah, not artifacting I don't think as it's in the original; wasn't sure myself if it was a little noise, but given it was taken at ISO200 I wouldn't have expected any noise. --jjron (talk) 00:54, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support, we have enough description of this subspecies specifically to warrant a featured picture. Accurately illustrates that it is "a very large white-backed form", but only a weak support as the "broad black tail band" is not visible. A pose as with the lead image would probably have been more effective. J Milburn (talk) 10:01, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support EDIT:(preferably the alt) Looks great and in better than decent resolution. Not sure if we're restricted to one FP per species, but I support this on its technical qualifications and my own tastes. This one also doesn't have the blurring or the extra background seen in the other ones. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 11:41, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • We're not restricted to one FP per species, but each FP does have to have high encyclopedic value- as such, it would have to be specifically used to show something that the other FP does not. This one is being used to illustrate the subspecies, which certainly warrants illustration. J Milburn (talk) 12:13, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • And as I say in the reason, this an adult vs the other being a juvenile. --jjron (talk) 00:54, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • I like that more of the color variations are shown in the alternate as well as the glimmer in the eye and that the quality is still high. I think the opposes are a bit unfair, not the bird's fault it's black (and white, you guys do see that, right?). Looks like it was a bit overcast, but I can make out the slight lightshine on the alt, maybe the opposers are giving their computers/monitors too much credit. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 22:54, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Shadows are strongly posterised and cover much of the central subject. Redevelop from RAW, lifting shadows? Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 16:31, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Nice framing and cropping; nice pose; standing on the fence post is cool. But the lighting is quite short of what I would consider FP material. I have a nice well-adjusted 27-inch iMac monitor and a really well-adjusted Sony Trinitron 21-inch external monitor. And both show this bird’s body like it’s almost a black hole: very little discernible detail. I understand black is hard to light, but I can imagine catching a bird like this with light from a setting sun. If this exact image had that sort of lighting, that would indeed be FP material (IMHO). Greg L (talk) 02:07, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • I did this edit: File:Australian Magpie 1, jjron, 5.07 highlight.jpg, but accidentally did it to the wrong image. I don't know if that is worth doing to this. Fairly strong fill flash can help reduce dynamic range with light backgrounds and dark coloured birds. I've got File:Cracticus tibicen hypoleuca male domain.jpg, but was kind of waiting around for a female. Noodle snacks (talk) 05:52, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Thanks. Give it a go if you like, it looks good at image page size, but for mine I think it brings up too much - something, not even sure what to call it - in the blacks. I tried lifting some shadows too but found the same thing, which is why I settled on this as the best compromise. Looks like this has been voted down by now anyway. Yeah, agree, I would have used fill flash in ideal circumstances but was actually taking some scenery so didn't have the flash on, when this cheeky chap came and landed beside me, so just snapped off these couple of shots in the 10 secs I had available before he took off. --jjron (talk) 09:23, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Oh, btw, just as an independent viewpoint, which one do you think is better for the article? I wasn't sure. Actually, if you don't mind I'll dump up your edit here and see if we can get some feedback. Cheers, --jjron (talk) 09:26, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • I'd actually probably go for 1 - you can see a little more on the head. I think ideally speaking to differentiate subspecies for the Aust. Magpie one should be able to see the back of the bird - but that isn't a factor as there aren't any Adult FPs at the moment. Noodle snacks (talk) 11:01, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Greg L (except without the fancy monitors!) --99of9 (talk) 05:34, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose original and edit. On the edit: I did that, too (but on the original picture) and concluded that nothing will save this except going back to RAW. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 13:53, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Per the above concerns on lighting, get two pictures—one with a flash, one with out—whenever you can. You can see the flash of the camera in the eye of the bird of other FP's, and that seems to help their FP nomination. Gut Monk (talk) 16:54, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 05:24, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Five Noble Gases and Hydrogen

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Reason
Very encyclopedic. As all these gases are transparent in their unexcited state, this is the best way to get an image for them. Given the subject, the resolution is ample.
Articles in which this image appears
Noble gas [All but Hydrogen]; Individually used in Hydrogen, Helium, Neon, Argon, Krypton, Xenon.
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Sciences/Materials science
Creator
All by commons:User:Jurii
 
Nitrogen - possible additional FP.
Could you mark it with Commons' Image notation tool? I can't spot it. Adam Cuerden (talk) 02:41, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've added one. You can only see it full sized, so there was a level of estimating. J Milburn (talk) 10:38, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, J Milburn found it. It's only visible when the image is full-size. SpencerT♦Nominate! 21:36, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Hydrogenglow.jpg
Promoted File:Helium-glow.jpg
Promoted File:Neon-glow.jpg
Promoted File:Argon-glow.jpg
Promoted File:Krypton-glow.jpg
Promoted File:Xenon-glow.jpg
Promoted File:Nitrogen-glow.jpg On nitrogen: Supported by Adam, Milburn, raeky, mcshadypl, Gut Monk
That's all of them, promoted. Main page scheduler should note the combined image, File:Glowing noble gases.jpg for possible use (noble gases only). Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 10:33, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Atelopus certus

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Original - A male Atelopus certus, a species of toad in the Bufonidae family endemic to Panama.
 
Edit1 - Crop by jjron
Reason
Very nice image of a pretty little creature in its natural environment, exhibiting typical behaviour. Already a featured picture on Commons.
Articles in which this image appears
Atelopus certus, Atelopus
FP category for this image
Amphibians
Creator
Brian Gratwicke = User:Brian.gratwicke

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 18:05, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Scandium

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Original - Scandium, element number 21
Reason
an another fine chemical element image
Articles in which this image appears
Scandium, Group 3 element
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Sciences/Materials science
Creator
Alchemist-hp

Promoted File:Scandium sublimed dendritic and 1cm3 cube.jpg --Jujutacular T · C 22:53, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Kyndra Miller Rotunda

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File:Kyndra Miller Rotunda crop1.jpg
Original - Kyndra Miller Rotunda is an American professor of law, currently working at Chapman University, and an Army JAG officer (Major) in the United States Army.
Reason
A professionally produced photo of a notable individual received through our photo submission system. The original is File:Kyndra Miller Rotunda.jpg, if anyone wants to try to recrop. (Concerning the watermark, Rotunda assured me that the rights had transferred to her upon her payment, a simple work-for-hire- I'd be inclined to believe her. Not only is this likely, but she is a law professor...) Plenty of emotion, this shot really helps the article by adding a face to the name in a way that some formal portraits do not.
Articles in which this image appears
Kyndra Miller Rotunda
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Others
Creator
Glamour Photography. Property of Kyndra Miller Rotunda.
  • (*smile*) That was my take too. But we finally have a portrait that is pretty much flawless in every respect. Though I voted “support,” I still have a latent concern about notability. Is that a legitimate issue here? Greg L (talk) 19:26, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question The source does say Glamour Shots, does the OTRS include full permission from Glamour Shots for copyright release? Since it's a professional studio they hold the copyright of the image, see [9]? — raeky (talk | edits) 04:58, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please suspend the nomination while I look into this. J Milburn (talk) 11:11, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Email sent to Glamour Shots. Fingers crossed. J Milburn (talk) 11:19, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Might be worth asking if this has been airbrushed too - it certainly gives me that impression. Noodle snacks (talk) 13:17, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • Incidentally, the crop's a bit awkward - if the copyright is OK, is there a possibility the watermark could be cloned out rather than cropped (or assuming it's legit, they may even be able to provide one without the watermark). --jjron (talk) 14:14, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
          • I'm going to suspect that the copyright release from them requires the watermark to remain. This is a professional studio, they make their $ by selling you copies of the pictures, not by letting you make your own. I also suspect it's rather difficult to get them to part with the copyright. As for airbrushing, I do think that's a standard technique for this studio, they sorta specialize in it. — raeky (talk | edits) 17:06, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
            • Absolutely true. When I buy commercial photography services, I pay extra to buy ownership of license rights, otherwise you end up inevitably going back to the photographer and get killed for reproductions in brochures and media. Photography is a competitive business and many commercial photographers are hungry enough to take you up on the offer. BTW, for killer portraits, Quicksilver Studios across the border in Idaho does some stunning work. At their home page, navigate to “Seniors” → “Featured Galleries” → “Raves.” Greg L (talk) 18:26, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Suspended per nom's request pending licensing check. --jjron (talk) 14:06, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted - I'm going to presume from the image's disappearance that this failed the licensing check. Pity. Adam Cuerden (talk) 17:49, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Florida Burrowing Owl

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Original - The Florida Burrowing Owl (Athene cunicularia floridana) is one of over 20 documented subspecies of the Burrowing Owl (Athene cunicularia).
Reason
Lovely shot used in the taxobox. High EV, meets the technical criteria.
Articles in which this image appears
Burrowing Owl
FP category for this image
Birds
Creator
Dori
  • We have a fairly high standard for bird shots, there is no detail on the feathers, it's not sharp focus. Likewise this is a common bird, so it's highly reproducible. — raeky (talk | edits) 02:25, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:08, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Calocoris affinis

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Original - Calocoris affinis, a true bug in the Miridae family, upon Knautia arvensis.
Reason
High quality image of an insect identified to species level, used well in the genus article.
Articles in which this image appears
Calocoris
FP category for this image
Insects
Creator
Darius Bauzys
  • Support as nominator --J Milburn (talk) 09:47, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Perfect photo -- George Chernilevsky talk 14:01, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I think the green background was a poor idea here. It detracts sufficiently from the image to not merit FP status, IMO. Greg L (talk) 16:46, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I think the background is just green because this photo was taken in a field =\ Other than that the insect and the bud are in very good resolution. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 20:18, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- One the best macro shots in the last times. Excellent quality and detail, nice composition. -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 16:35, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose There's too much reflection on the back of the front wing (covering the abdomen). It's not completely blown, but I wasn't able to salvage it to any meaningful extent. It's a fairly common bug, so I'd suggest a retake. The article about the plant already has a high quality image showing the flower as its taxobox image, and it's a short article, but once expanded, this might find a place in it, as I don't (yet) see another image that shows the bud. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 13:21, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Interesting you should say that- I'd call this little creature a shield bug if I were to find it myself, and the thing I always noticed about shield bugs was how shiny they are. I actually considered the shine before my nomination, but decided that, for that reason, it wasn't necessarily a negative. (Also, can I ask what makes you think it's a common species? We don't have an article on the species, and didn't have one on the genus until I wrote it.) J Milburn (talk) 23:55, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:08, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Marbled rock crab male

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Original - Marbled rock crab male
Reason
Featured on Commons, used in other national Wikis
Articles in which this image appears
Pachygrapsus marmoratus
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Others
Creator
George Chernilevsky
  • It is small and fast animal. For successful photo there is only fraction of a second. I did series of photos, then chose one best. Concerning composition: i have photos of the big Warty crab (Eriphia verrucosa). I did them macro by the plan en claws and face. As a result i have been attacked by really strong claws. The camera has fallen to sand, and i have received blood-stained fingers. The crab hasn't suffered :) -- George Chernilevsky talk 19:27, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Most crabs are physically kind of 2-dimensional, the top is generally the best side to look at. This image is very clear and smooth, but I wish the crab stood out more from its surroundings, maybe were in a different angle. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 20:43, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I think on the biology side this is the most common way (that and probably an underside shot with it on it's back) is the way books photograph crabs for identification. I think the way this sucker is camouflaged on sand any bio camouflage page if it's not overtly illustrated might benefit from this too. — raeky (talk | edits) 23:32, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose On that background, it’s like trying to find Waldo. Greg L (talk) 04:23, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Pachygrapsus_marmoratus_2008_G1.jpg--Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:47, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Ivy Mike nuclear weapon test

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Original - Nuclear weapon test Mike (yield 10.4 Mt) on Enewetak Atoll. The test was part of the Operation Ivy. Mike was the first hydrogen bomb ever tested, an experimental device not appropriate for use as a weapon.
Reason
Image was previously nominated here


This is a historical image that has incredibly encyclopedic value and is of relatively high quality and of good size considering when the photograph was taken and the subject matter.

Articles in which this image appears
Ivy Mike, Operation Ivy, Nuclear Fusion, Nuclear weapon design, Timeline of nuclear fusion
FP category for this image
Engineering_and_technology
Creator
United States Department of Energy
The URL listed in the original upload is no longer valid but I found a new location at [10]. Our version doesn't seem to have been altered from the original. There are other photos in the same collection that don't have the darkness issue.--RDBury (talk) 12:46, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
According to the article, the detonation was fairly early in the morning. Sunrise may not have taken full effect yet, and the light pulse from the blast may account for the contrast. The other photos of this particular detonation do show similar ambient darkness. bahamut0013wordsdeeds 20:50, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:IvyMike2.jpg --Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:45, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Signal Hill 1923

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Original - Panoramic view of Signal Hill circa 1923. The appearance of the area during this time period led to it being called "Porcupine Hill".
Reason
Decent quality for the time period, and a very appalling picture. Over 200 derricks are visible. Restored version of File:Signal Hill California Panorama.jpg
Articles in which this image appears
Signal Hill, California, Long Beach Oil Field
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Panorama
Creator
The Aerograph Co., restored by Jujutacular

Promoted File:Signal Hill California 1923.jpg --Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:42, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Eisenhower Expressway

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Original - Eisenhower Expressway and the Chicago Transit Authority blue line train connect the western suburbs of the Chicago metropolitan area to the Chicago Loop.
 
Edit obscured license plates by TonyTheTiger (talk · contribs)
Reason
This contributes to several articles.
Articles in which this image appears
Interstate 290 (Illinois)
Blue Line (Chicago Transit Authority)
Roads and freeways in Chicago
Chicago metropolitan area
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Engineering and technology/Others
Creator
Daniel Schwen (User:Dschwen)
  • Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:44, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The buildings in the background look a bit wavy. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 02:32, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - An unusal subject, but well-photographed. Adam Cuerden (talk) 03:55, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose It just sorta looks like a snapshot of a freeway from a pedestrian bridge. Ho-hum. I can’t imagine I.P. readers stopping to click this thing on the Main Page. Greg L (talk) 04:22, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: We're gonna need those numberplates blurred, for a start. J Milburn (talk) 10:14, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Oppose Giving a reason of "This contributes to several articles." is a terrible reason to give for nominating an image - I could place a really poor image in 20 articles - doesn't mean it's worth of a nom! Please firstly provide a particular reason why you think this is worthy of being nominated... Secondly as Greg L said it looks like a snapshot from a pedestrian bridge, not FP quality at all... Thirdly as per IdLoveOne it's hazy like there's heat affecting the shot... Fourthly if this is a picture of an expressway it should be of the expressway, not a picture of Chicago with a random road in the bottom of the picture - it should be the main focus... Finally, to quote Greg L "I can’t imagine I.P. readers stopping to click this thing on the Main Page." it's just plain and uninteresting sorry... Gazhiley (talk) 11:13, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Just noticing this nomination now. A perfectly sharp 13MP image is not FP quality at all. What? I guess people are just being fed up with Tony nominating so many Chicago images. Just say it. Please stay honest. Your so called snapshot is actually a composite panoramic image, which proved difficult due to the many moving cars. Also the pedestrian bridges in the vicinity all have several feet of meshed wire fencing. I had to contort myself, climb up, stick my arm and camera through a hole, and avoid getting part of a tree on the right in the frame. I personally am pretty pleased how the composition with the diagonally running road, multiple level road and "L" crossing, and the notable skyline turned out. --Dschwen 16:11, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • I agree - FP isn't just for the usual. Sometimes, we need to appreciate a really good photo of an unusual choice of subject. Adam Cuerden (talk) 05:01, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Sharpness and megapixels are just minimums and aren’t a defining criteria for what constitutes an interesting, attractive photo that has EV and deserves Featured Picture status. I’ve got a 6.5-megapixel image of a manhole cover. I can go take a four-frame, 48-megapixel, monster version of that cover; that wouldn’t make it FP material. Greg L (talk) 17:57, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • And yet we have zillions of pictures of all kinds of fruits, chunks of metal on white backgrounds. A manhole cover would fit in perfectly. Please note that Gazhiley was talking about quality. --Dschwen 18:38, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • If you are going to quote me please note that I also talked about the picture's lack of EV for the chosen nom due to the road being a small part at the bottom of the picture, and certainly not the focus of it - also the haze from the heat making things looked blurred, the "snapshot-esque" style of picture (although I agree this isn't actually a snapshot)... Not just just the quality... And may I echo Greg L in that the amount of megapixels and sharpness doesn't neccessarily mean the picture is of fantastic quality... It just means the blur is even clearer if that makes sense! Oh and my Oppose and comments have nothing to do with the nom and his attitude towards FPC - I rarely look at the nom first what with the pictures being what this page is about... Strangely enough they are the first things that catch my eye and where I get my judgement from... Gazhiley (talk) 22:13, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
          • Ok, you have your mind set, that's fine. No need to make up arguments about the blur. You can think what you want about the subject matter, just don't unfairly slam the technical quality, that's all I'm asking for. --Dschwen 01:04, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
            • Make up arguments?!! The buildings behind (which are kinda the main draw of the picture as opposed to the random road below) are blurred... The heat refractions are obvious and create a very hazy effect on the buildings at full zoom... Not making anything up... Gazhiley (talk) 14:05, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
              • Ok, I don't get it, we are arguing about something completely obvious to me. Are you looking at a different image? You can see fine antenna details on the Willis Tower, you can count loops on the mesh wire fencing, you can count rivets on the L tracks. And yet you are fixated on atmospherical speckling in a small part of the image (far away and close to the ground). It is not even blur! And even those parts of the image do not contain significantly less information that a much lower resolution would be justified. What is your problem here?! --Dschwen 16:06, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
                • What I'm talking about (as I mentioned above in the mini-thread above this one) is the top half of the picture... The buildings behind at full zoom look like the edges were cut with a crinkle-cut chip cutter... They maybe far away but when I look at this picture my eye is drawn to them (as the road in the bottom 3rd is pretty dull and un-interesting), so to me they are the main focus of the picture... I haven't at one point said the foreground is blurred... Gazhiley (talk) 22:03, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
          • I strongly agree- anything that benefits from illustration, no matter how unwelcome the topic would be in a traditional encyclopedia, is worthy of featured pictures. J Milburn (talk) 21:06, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support either It is a good-quality image and illustrates its subject well- both the expressway and the rail line. -- mcshadypl TC 03:43, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support This checks the boxes for me. Cowtowner (talk) 17:38, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 01:59, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Wave (La Vague)

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Original - The Wave (La Vague), an 1896 oil painting by William-Adolphe Bouguereau
Reason
I think most people like William-Adolphe Bouguereau. This is a high-quality image of one of his works, and shows off his style very well.
Articles in which this image appears
William-Adolphe Bouguereau, Art nude
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Paintings
Creator
William-Adolphe Bouguereau (1825-1905)
  • Support as nominator --Adam Cuerden (talk) 04:47, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support A beautiful painting from a truly wonderful painter, would be a great addition as a FP. — raeky (talk | edits) 05:03, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support beautiful painting -- George Chernilevsky talk 05:32, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, this is exactly what I mean when I say we need more fine art FPs. J Milburn (talk) 09:55, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Info Another of Bougereau's works is an FP on en-wp: File:Bouguereau-Linnocence.jpg. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 10:28, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- I like Bouguereau very much though he has been considered as a lesser artist. As for this picture, I can't help feeling it is somehow kitschy. Support anyway as we need good reproductions of fine art. -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 10:40, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment Has anyone seen the original to know what color it really has? Bouguereau’s other works suggest he wasn’t adverse to warm tones. Most images retrieved from a Google image search—but not all—have this blue cast. But, as if often the case, all it takes is one high-res image to get on the Internet and if it isn’t copyrighted, it is multiplied a thousand fold. I note that some versions of this painting, like this one, are more color balanced whereas still others, like this one, are even slightly bluer. I can see that the sky is partially cloudy and the way he has no direct sunlight reflecting off the waves and the diffuse shadows beneath the lady makes it quite clear that a cloud is partially blocking the sun here. The eye working the way it does, it tends to quickly balance the RGB so everything takes on an overall white balance. On a purely subjective, artistic note, I have a healthy dose of skepticism that Bouguereau would have depicted a nude bather using a color palette reminiscent of the arctic. Of course, that may have been precisely his intent so as to give her nudity an even-more vulnerable look (in addition to her virginal, cherub-like body and milky complexion). It would nevertheless be quite nice to find someone expert on this painting who could attest for certain what it *really* looks like before slapping it up on the Main Page for the world to see. Greg L (talk) 21:51, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm afraid we won't be able to know what the 'real' colours are unless a digital copy of the image taken with one of those calibration targets is made available. Even in that case, we have to trust that the picture was made with a calibrated lighting. Maybe the bluish touch is purposeful and the lady is an arctic mermaid... -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 22:23, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • The _Vast_ majority of them on tineye are in agreement with these colors and the best I can tell it's in private collection, so chances of seeing it is slim. — raeky (talk | edits) 22:50, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support She must skinny dip a lot, look how pale and obviously cold and clammy her skin must be, yet she's smiling like she just found $20. Not sure the detail or size is what it could be, I was hoping to be able to see canvass fibers. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 01:00, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Mildly support Gut Monk (talk) 01:23, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Beautiful!--Mbz1 (talk) 03:07, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, though I agree with Greg L that it would be good to know if these are the true colours or not. It's very indicative of the artist's later work. I dig it. Amphy (talk) 06:45, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Note about color I contacted Epic Stitch (Fine Arts Collection). They sell prints of this for $40. As you can see, their Web-based depiction of The Wave is in warmer colors than shown here. If they respond, I’ll let you all know. Greg L (talk) 02:14, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Not sure that's the best palace to ask, they sell a cross stitch interpretation of the painting... hardly an art expert. — raeky (talk | edits) 02:27, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • <disappointed cluelessness>Oh… (darn).</disappointed cluelessness> I didn’t realize what “cross stitch” was. I’ll see if I can find someone else. Greg L (talk) 02:41, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • After looking at what sellers of lithographic reproductions have, it seems quite clear that Bouguereau made the image with an icy-blue cast. The differences between the various reproductions of “ice”—that I can see on the Web, anyway—show that ours is probably close enough. I note cqout.com. When I scroll down to the bottom of that page, though the sand colors are more saturated, there is clearly bluish cast for the overall scene and the nude. This isn’t the first time I’ve gone to litho-reproduction-selling houses and seen the sand with more saturated colors than here. I can’t see how these questions over quibbling color details are at all provable one way or another. So I’m done on this point. As the saying goes… “close enough for government work.” Greg L (talk) 02:58, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Wonderful painting Old Al (Talk) 03:31, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:William-Adolphe Bouguereau (1825-1905) - The Wave (1896).jpg --Jujutacular T · C 06:36, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Ira Aldridge in Titus Andronicus

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Original - African-American actor Ira Aldridge in the role of Aaron in Shakespeare's Titus Andronicus, Act IV, Scene 2.
 
Not for voting - Unrestored original.
Reason
Illustrates both a very notable African-American actor, and one of Shakespeare's plays which is very hard to find high-quality illustrations for. I actually had to contact the LoC, and beg them to release the files to get this one, hence why I've done it immediately. =)
Articles in which this image appears
Ira Aldridge, Titus Andronicus
FP category for this image
Either Wikipedia:Featured_pictures/Culture,_entertainment,_and_lifestyle/Theatre or Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Entertainment. Probably the latter: It's slightly more important in Ira Aldridge.
Creator
From a daguerreotype by Paine of Islington. Printed by The London Printing and Publishing Company.
  • Support as nominator --Adam Cuerden (talk) 13:31, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Info If you're wondering about the crop, it's because there's a little bit of text shoved right down at the bottom of the page, and I needed to put enough space on the other sides to balance. File:Ira_Aldridge_as_Aaron_in_Titus_Andronicus - detail.jpg crops this text, but I think you'll agree that it had to stay in in at least one copy. Adam Cuerden (talk) 13:31, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, very nice. Love the costume. Agreed the EV is higher in the actor's article. J Milburn (talk) 09:12, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support High technical standard (TS,) with high EV. Gut Monk (talk) 01:11, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support for quality, but I need to catch up on my Shakespeare, and Ira seems to be an interesting person, a black man becoming a famous actor decades before the USA even thought about freeing its slaves. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 01:35, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Titus Andronicus is basically a revenge tragedy. It contains rape, cannibalism, murder, and... ya name it, it's probably in there. Ira Aldridge was really an incredible person: He started his career in America; when he had gone as high as he could in America, he left for Britain, to have more opportunity - and was so good that he's one of only 33 actors memorialized in the Shakespeare Memorial Theatre in Shakespeare's birthplace of Stratford-upon-Avon. Long before the idea of race-blind casting, he played Hamlet, Romeo, Richard III, and (of course) Othello, all to rave reviews. He also had two interracial marriages (his first wife predeceased him), which really annoyed the pro-slavery contingent (though that he did marry interracially was probably mainly for reasons of propiniquity: Victorian Shakespearian actors in Britain were probably unlikely to even meet very many people who weren't white. Still, I'm kind of proud of his wives for ignoring the prevalent racism, which, while largely of a passive sort due to ignorance (racism due to not knowing the other group is much easier to get people to drop, as opposed to active racism, as in the American South of the time), it was still very common.) Adam Cuerden (talk) 05:04, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Fantastic job on the restoration, and equally fantastic EV. Amphy (talk) 06:38, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. — raeky (talk | edits) 00:21, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Ira Aldridge as Aaron in Titus Andronicus.jpg --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 16:30, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Velodona togata

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Original - An illustration of Velodona togata, a species of octopus in the Octopodidae family, from Die Cephalopoden, a 1910 work by Carl Chun.
Reason
A strong illustration from a reliable source, gently restored.
Articles in which this image appears
Velodona
FP category for this image
Molluscs
Creator
Rübsamen, cleaned by Citron
I confirm what J Milburn said. This image is henceforth featured on commons, I had no comment on the noise.--Citron (talk) 09:47, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Velodona togata.jpg --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 16:31, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Black-headed Bunting

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Original - A male Black-headed Bunting. The male is distinctly more colourful than the female, with bright yellow underparts, chestnut upperparts and a black hood when breeding.
 
Edit1 Lighter and cropped a bit.
Reason
Interesting bird, good resolution and focus, nice composition. Used well in our species article, featured on Commons and the Spanish Wikipedia.
Articles in which this image appears
Black-headed Bunting
FP category for this image
Birds
Creator
Mjobling
  • Support as nominator --J Milburn (talk) 09:25, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Support If we’re gonna have yet another bird photo on the main page, let it be one that is head & shoulders better than the typical one here. But I think it could be a bit brighter. I just tried brightening up a version I dragged onto my computer it and it looked really nice. Greg L (talk) 17:46, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support Per Greg, it could be a bit brighter. Gut Monk (talk) 01:09, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Oppose Both The bird looks great, the head, the feathers, though the tail's a bit OOF, even the feet and branches under it look good, but the background is so drab, it subtracts from eye-appeal and makes an adorable little song bird seem tragic, and I doubt there's anything that can be done to fix it and keep it realistic. It looks like night is falling, maybe if the night sky was in the background in this it would be better, sorry, J. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 01:15, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • The well-intentioned alternate's not much better, and I still think we can do better as far as featuring bird images. In Edit1 it looks like the bird formally had its picture taken complete with reflectors. I could maybe think about supporting one of these as a valued image and Mjobling has potential, but let's be real: Does any of you really think this is one of the best bird images we have? --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 18:45, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Prior to the last two weeks or so (my Holidays), only a handful of birds were promoted from March or so. As a corollary - the long term rate isn't actually that high. Since my holidays conclude today, I won't be nominating any more for some time most probably. Regardless, the argument that we have had a lot of bird pictures in the last two weeks doesn't really hold any water. I am sure that User:Howcheng will spread them out on the main page and that argument isn't included in the FP criteria. Moving to the picture itself, it is perhaps a little dark, but this is probably needed to avoid blown highlights, and overall it meets the criteria. I'm sure an edit with the curves tool would be an improvement. Noodle snacks (talk) 01:40, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note I tried to improve this by brightening the image and cropping it a bit tighter. Wikipedia’s servers seem to have a bug in the way they convert thumbnails because the thumbnails here seem to be darker and more saturated than the full-size originals on Commons, which tend to look less saturated and lighter. In doing so, I necessarily had to blow out detail in the bird’s neck, so now I see why the original was made the way it was. I contribute it to see if others think it an improvement still. Greg L (talk) 02:17, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Original Oppose Color Edit I think the colors, lighting, and crop of the original is just fine. — raeky (talk | edits) 05:17, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Original Oppose Edit1 per Raeky -- George Chernilevsky talk 10:19, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Benjamint 12:38, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:28-090504-black-headed-bunting-at-first-layby.jpg --Jujutacular T · C 18:28, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Léon Georget

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Original - French cyclist Léon Georget, photo created/published 1909.
 
Alt - removed dust and scratches, also rotated, and cropped less.
Reason
I'd gotten some enjoyment from this image previously, and I feel it is topical given the Tour de France. The large rake, fixed gear and toe clips are all interesting artefacts of history.
Articles in which this image appears
Léon Georget, Cycling
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Sport
Creator
Unknown

Suspended pending cleanup. --jjron (talk) 08:16, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Alt supplied. Also updated the voting period timer. Jujutacular T · C 20:10, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, I like it. EV is very high, quality is great. Could probably still benefit from some more cleanup (still some muddy flecks) but I'm willing to overlook that in this case. J Milburn (talk) 21:03, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Alt That is an eye-catching photo. Gut Monk (talk) 00:52, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The alt is much better, but, if I may, why should we care about this photograph? What is it's historical significance? I want to know. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 01:07, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Modern racing bikes generally have a smaller fork rake, a handlebar configuration which is only superficially similar, and gears. The frame itself appears to be made from tubular steel, instead of the aluminium or carbon fiber common today. As far as cyclist goes, a modern day racing cyclist would use Clipless Pedals instead of spiky pedals, heavy leather shoes and being strapped in. Instead of being covered in thick wool, tight fitting and aerodynamic lyrca would be the norm. There is also EV for the cyclist himself.
Above comment by Noodle snacks (talk). SpencerT♦Nominate! 17:50, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Leon Georget 1909.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 01:36, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Topographical map of the Antipodes Islands

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Original - The Antipodes Islands are a group of inhospitable volcanic islands to the south-east of New Zealand. The group consists of one main island, Antipodes Island, of 20 km² area, Bollons Island of 2 km² to the north, and other small islets and stacks, including the Windward and Leeward Islands and Orde Lees Islet. The highest point is Mount Galloway (366 m), which is also the group's most recently active volcano.
Reason
Highly EV vector map, created from public domain sources using purely open source software
Articles in which this image appears
Antipodes Islands, Bollons Island, New Zealand outlying islands, List of islands of New Zealand
FP category for this image
Maps
Creator
Matthewedwards :  Chat 
  • Support as nominator --Matthewedwards :  Chat  04:32, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: It is difficult to tell where the separation is between Hut Cove and Anchorage Bay is on the existing map. One of the references, here, makes the separation clearer. Would it be possible to make this separation more visible? SpencerT♦Nominate! 17:46, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Oppose per J Milburn. Nicely done, and (thank god) labelled. I hate Wikipedia maps a lot of the time, because you go and look at, say, a map of Africa, and if you don't have every country memorized already, not one map on Wikipedia will bother to tell you - you'll have to look at every damn country page to see which one is highlighted. Ugh! Anyway, enough off-topic ranting. Adam Cuerden (talk) 13:36, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Excellent work: clear color scheme, good use of labels and a legend, good sourcing on the description page, and the global locater is a useful touch. Jujutacular T · C 19:45, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong oppose. I hate to do this, but this just isn't up to the standard of the source maps- not nearly. The coastlines are far, far too smooth, and the level of detail is pretty minimal. Take, for example, the left side of South Bay (I've forgotten technical terms here, sorry). Even when viewed at low-res on the source maps, this is clearly a peninsula with only a narrow landbride across when compared to the size of the main bulk of the islet, as opposed to the lump on the bottom of the svg map. Also take a look at Bollons Island- two pointy outcrops clearly visible on the other maps stop this being the idealised crescent shape on the svg map. Further comparisons of the coastline reveal severe shape problems, without even going in to the more technical issues (I haven't looked in-depth for problems with the mountains themselves), or addressing the lack of detail when compared to the others, especially this one. Compare this nom, perhaps, to a current svg topographic map of FP status- File:Falkland Islands topographic map-en.svg. It's in a different league. J Milburn (talk) 00:52, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't want to sound facetious, but perhaps you don't completely understand all the ins-and-outs of cartography. Firstly, I only used the LINZ map as a source for accurate heights of hills and mountains. Their help page tells us that their maps are at a scale of 1:25,000 (it's 1:50,000 for NZ, and 1:25,000 for the outlying islands). My map's scale is 1:372,000. All maps are scaled, and there is always some degree of "incorrectness". As LINZ says, "To show as much information as possible, maps at this scale are "generalised" (meaning that small twists and turns of features like roads and rivers are smoothed out). The best you can achieve from a map is the ability to calculate the length of the mapped (generalised) river. Different maps are likely to have different degrees of generalisation, so you may get different results for the same feature."
When most people talk about the scale of a map, and "scale: 1: xxx xxx" what they mean is that one centimeter on paper corresponds to xxx xxx cm on the ground; however, when a map creator talks about the scale, especially with digitally created maps, it can refer more to the accuracy of the spatial positioning of objects, and less about the linear scale. They are still tied together, though, and even though the accuracy is rarely shown on commercially available maps, each cartography institute or private cartographer will still operate by it.
As an example, the USGS's standards, set in 1947, on a map with a scale of 1:50 000, 90% of points tested must fall within a maximum of 0.508mm on the map in relation to their true positions, or 25.4m.[11] According to one Wikipedian who is a cartographer for the Portuguese Navy, the maximum error allowed there is 0.25 mm, which means that for a map scaled at 1:50 000 must be correct to within 12.5m. France is even more strict. Their maximum is 0.1mm, so a map at 1:50 000 must be true to within 5m on the ground.[12] I don't know what New Zealand's error margin is. They don't tell us on their website. Either way, both the Falklands Island map and this Atipodes Island map, and most other similar maps created by Wikipedians, are drawn with a maximum error level of 0.25mm. Both maps are created using NASA's Shuttle Radar Topography Mission [[digital elevation model], and the NGA's SRTM Water Body Data. The resolution for the data is three arc seconds, which works out to 93m. When a new map is created by copying a map or interpreting data published by another source, as in this case, cartographers often work under the rule that their map must be accurate to no less than three times that of the original data. So if you draw such a coastline from Landsat Enhanced Thematic Mapper Plus, which has a resolution of 14.25 m the accuracy of our map can be calculated as  . The scale can then be calculated as   so the scale is 1:171,000.
Anyway, I preserved the original resolution of the DEMs, which is 93m. So I calculate   and my scale is 1:372,000.
You're asking me to change the resolution of the source material (the DEMs). I can't do that. This is the one of the best resolutions that we can work with at Wikipedia. The LINZ maps are protected by crown copyright, so we can't use them here. I would love to make them more accurate, but we can only work with the material that is available to us. You said that the Falklands Island map is in a different league - it was created in exactly the same way. Yes, the path of the coastline was simplified, and nodes were deleted, but the same shape remains. There are so many nodes in the original path that the coastline looks just as smooth. The path is only simplified to provide a significant reduction in the number of nodes to produce a file small enough for accessibility on the Internet, but it still preserves the original path of the coastline. I downloaded the material from NASA last night, and projected one of the segments. There were 20,904 nodes in the original vectorized coastline. In the exact same area of the promoted image, there are only 678 nodes. The number of nodes has been significantly reduced, but what remains is still true to the original lines. In this map, there are 542 nodes in the original, unmodified coastline. There are 90 in the finalized version, and they are still true to the original lines. The level of detail is no more minimal than for the Falklands map. The area and natural topography of the Antipodes is less than the Falklands', which is why it may appear to someone who doesn't work with maps that this is minimal and in a lesser league to the map of the Falklands. There are no "problems" with the coastline, or with the topography of the land. And by the way, if you overlaid a 1:50,000 or 1:25,000 map with a precision of 0.25mm of the Falklands over our map, you will see that our map's coastline is significantly different.
I don't point out technical faults with photographs because I don't understand them. Matthewedwards :  Chat  19:07, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per J Milburn, the coastline definitely needs to be more detailed, this shows us it is more detailed. — raeky (talk | edits) 01:57, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose -- It is a good work, but not featurable imo. As noted above, the coastline lacks detail (the technical jargon is too generalized). I don't like the triangular black symbols to mark the elevation points; why not white and equilateral? Why is the longitude of the central meridian between brackets? Finally, this is not a topographical map but a hypsographical map, since only the relief is represented (with hypsometric tints). -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 16:11, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The black triangles were taken from File:Maps template-en.svg, which is based off File:Maps template-fr.svg. Both use the same triangles, and maps featured here and at Commons use the same triangles. I removed the parentheses. I'm not sure why they were there but I think it was to do with when I was making them all fonts I put them in there to forget not to change the style. And yeah, you could call it hypsographical, but all our other maps on Wikipedia are called "topographical", I added the streams but it's an uninhabitable island with no other distinguishable features such as roads, tracks, etc, and so calling it hypsographical didn't seem entirely correct to me either. And frankly, I'm sick of being accused of putting incorrect information into images. It's the same as being told I'm putting incorrect text information into articles: Vandalism. Matthewedwards :  Chat  19:27, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 23:22, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Biden & Obama

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Original - Joe Biden and Barack Obama on the day Obama officially announced his Vice Presidential choice
Reason
This is one of the better images of Barack Obama and Joe Biden together on the campaign trail.
Articles in which this image appears
Democratic Party (United States) vice presidential candidates, 2008
Barack Obama presidential campaign, 2008
Syracuse University
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Political
Creator
Daniel Schwen (User:Dschwen)
  • Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:36, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose It looks like too much of a snapshot. Gut Monk (talk) 01:22, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Per Monk. ‘Nuf said. Greg L (talk) 02:31, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Per Monk. Nothing special. -- Jack?! 04:19, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per everyone else. Would make a great Facebook picture for Joe Biden though. Amphy (talk) 06:31, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose as above. Far too snapshotty. This isn't going to pass, suggest speedy close. J Milburn (talk) 09:47, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I echo J MilburnGazhiley (talk) 10:27, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose also suggest speedy. — raeky (talk | edits) 13:57, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Uhhhh, another "snapshot". Maybe "blurry" too? --Dschwen 14:44, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I second (“third” actually, after J Milburn and raeky) Speedy Close This image can’t possibly win on any count. As an illustration of “Biden & Obama”, the president is partially obscured and way out of focus. So it doesn’t have a prayer in that regard. In the context of illustrating just “Biden”, we can come up with one that doesn’t have him eclipsing his president. Besides, WP:SNOWBALL tells us that it would take an army of socks to reverse this vote ratio. Greg L (talk) 18:05, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • I don't get it. This is most likely the best Biden picture taken by a Wikimedian that we have (correct me if I'm wrong), plus it shows him with his running mate at the day he was announced as the vice presidential candidate. And it gets slammed as a "snapshot". I wouldn't know how to do right by this crowd. No point in even trying. Anybody maybe wanting to compare Biden's face to a manhole cover? That would just be the final missing comment. Geez, I can only facepalm when reading these "expert-opinions". Brings back "fond" memories of this candidate. --Dschwen 18:22, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • It is fabulous that in an all-volunteer electronic encyclopedia that we have pictures like yours, Dschwen, that add enormous encyclopedic value (EV) to our articles. Thank you. I am a big, big advocate of adding pictures to articles since they save a thousand words each and make our articles much more attractive and professional. However, being an important illustration of the subject in question and adding EV does not mean a picture is amongst our best works. I have gobs of illustrations I created for use in articles and few make it to FPC although all are exceedingly important to the articles.

        In this particular case, this picture is being used to illustrate both men, such as here at Democratic Party. That caption there states “Biden and Obama in Springfield, Illinois after Biden's formal introduction as the running mate.” Notwithstanding that Obama is co-featured in the image, he is way out of focus (and rather significantly eclipsed by Biden). Our Featured Picture Criteria requires that pictures be of “High technical standard” and that “Its main subject is in focus.” Focus is a serious flaw if one is going to be deciding whether it should be on the Main Page for a day, don’t you think? Again, none of this detracts from the fine contribution your picture makes to the articles it is in.

        Nevertheless, I’ll withdraw my seconding of the nomination for “speedy close.” There is no harm is giving this image a full and fair hearing to give others an opportunity to weigh in. Greg L (talk) 19:35, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak Oppose It's sharp, but I found the legs in the background distracting, as well as the large, floating white square that they are standing on. Fletcher (talk) 01:52, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Second Speedy Close Per Well… Duh! Greg L (talk) 16:39, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The hair is obviously photoshopped. (Kidding!) Seriously though, it doesn't "pop" and doesn't make me go "wow" as most featured pictures do.-- φ OnePt618Talk φ 03:14, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support I know there is a large and irreversible consensus above me, however, I view the image as follows: a quality and effective demonstration of campaigning and reasonable illustration of the two candidates together. Though the image lacks "lead room", I don't think that the composistion is as bad as some here would indicate. Just my two cents. Cowtowner (talk) 07:39, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Jujutacular T · C 03:01, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Miley Cyrus

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Original - Miley Cyrus at the premiere for Hannah Montana: The Movie in April 2009.
 
Alternate version provided by Jjron with crop, levels and curves adjustment, as well as minor sharpening.
Reason
This is the first FP nomination of several celebrity images I have received OTRS permission for in the last few years. It is a quality headshot of the actress/singer and an edited alternate created by Jjron has also been included if a landscape or portrait is preferred.
Articles in which this image appears
Miley Cyrus
Hannah Montana: The Movie
FP category for this image
People - Entertainment
Creator
Angela George
Comment I considered that before nominating but saw the passing of File:MARTAKIS1.jpg which has a similar pose and crop. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 00:43, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Conditionally Oppose A very popular person with high technical standard photographs, most likely with more to come.
I don't want Wikipedia to become a news chat. Can we put a date on when she is important, and feature her on that day? Gut Monk (talk) 01:20, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The lighting here doesn’t remotely look like the best available portraiture lighting. The shadow across her forehead is clearly from a direct-on strobe rather than an umbrella light, which would always be used for any high quality portrait, like this one of Kyndra Miller Rotunda. This image of Miley Cyrus is the stuff one would expect of a Nickelodeon red-carpet photo-op where paparazzi shout out her name (“Ms. Girl On School Backpack… Ms. Girl On School Backpack!”) Greg L (talk) 01:37, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment That would be an effective way to get her to face the camera. As this image was taken at a red-carpet premiere, we wouldn't expect to see the same lighting as in the studio setting for the Martakis or Rotunda images. For similar comparisons on lighting it seems to compare to File:George Clooney 66ème Festival de Venise (Mostra) 3Alt1.jpg or File:Peter Levy BBC.jpg. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 03:07, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Understood. But, clearly, runway photos are a dime a dozen. The George Clooney runway shot looks like a runway shot (IMHO). And, as runway shots go (“George! Over here! Over here!”), his is pretty good. And the man’s face is a study in “distinguished character” (good thing I’m straight). But I would argue that if one is going to have a picture packed edge to edge and stem to stern with face, as was done here, then it takes on a portrait-like nature. In such a genre, it ought to act the part and look really, really nice if it is to purportedly represent our best work. We shouldn’t have to say “This was actually a runway shot, so… ‘pretty good’… right?”

    BTW, I think the Peter Levy picture is crap-poor, was framed to catch overlying UFOs (or to add EV to our “Forehead” article), and never should have garnered FP-status in the first place. With five “supports”, one “oppose”, one “Weak oppose”, and one “neutral”, it sorta squeaked through. That this picture “sucks less” than Peter Levy’s is not a reason I would vote for it. Greg L (talk) 04:11, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 03:06, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Brandenburg an der Havel

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Original - A panoramic view of the town of Brandenburg an der Havel, Brandenburg, Germany.
Reason
Beautiful panorama, gives a real feel for the town and surrounding area.
Articles in which this image appears
Brandenburg an der Havel
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Panorama
Creator
Leviathan1983

Promoted File:Brandenburg Pano 02 (MK).jpg--Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 11:12, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Common Blue Damselfly

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Original - The mating wheel of the Common Blue Damselfly (Enallagma cyathigerum), a species of damselfly found throughout much of Europe.
Reason
Perhaps the perfect taxobox image- shows both male and female, in a natural yet interesting pose (I'd imagine there are plenty of people who wouldn't actually realise that they are mating, or at least would learn something from seeing this) in their natural environment. Already featured on Commons and the German Wikipedia.
Articles in which this image appears
Common Blue Damselfly
FP category for this image
Insects
Creator
L. B. Tettenborn

Promoted File:Enallagma cyathigerum 1(loz).jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 09:02, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Eastern Spinebill

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Original - Species of honeyeater found in south-eastern Australia in forest and woodland areas, as well as gardens in urban areas of Sydney and Melbourne
 
Alt
Articles in which this image appears
Eastern Spinebill
Creator
Benjamint 12:54, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Jujutacular T · C 17:15, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Summary for original:
Support: IdLoveOne, Jack, Gut Monk, J Milburn (weak), Raeky, Cowtowner, jjron (weak)
Oppose: Dschwen, Muhammad, Noodle snacks, Makeemlighter (weak)
~63% support => not promoted
  • I'd suggest this may need a recount. Muhammad's vote was based solely on him thinking the minimum size requirements had been increased, when that's not the case. Since he gave no other reason, and this fits well within the current guidelines and is similar in size to many recently featured bird images, I'd politely suggest his !vote probably should not be counted. Correct me if I'm wrong. --jjron (talk) 18:12, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Human Embryogenesis

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Original - the initial stages of human embryogenesis
Reason
Highly encyclopedic and illustrative, clearly showing the important stages in the first three weeks of formation of the human embryo. High quality SVG on a par with many current FPs.
Articles in which this image appears
Human embryogenesis, Prenatal development + others
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Sciences/Biology
Creator
Jrockley, Zephyris

Not promoted --Jujutacular T · C 20:13, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



An odd-eyed cat

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The most common cases of complete heterochromia in house cats are one odd eye, the blue eye, with one normal eye.
Reason
High technical standard. Also, high encyclopedic value.
Articles in which this image appears
Heterochromia, Odd-eyed cat
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured_pictures/Animals/Mammals
Creator
Keith Kissel
  • Support as nominator --Gut Monk (talk) 14:04, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Love the picture (my cat has both blue eyes and is stone deaf), but I don't like the caption, it shouldn't say "rumored to be" since that is mostly WP:OR. — raeky (talk | edits) 14:55, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Didn't think I'd ever be supporting a cat-image. But this one is absolutely marvelous. Love the composition, overall colors of the scene which accentuate and support the eyes. Light is very good, depth of field is well chosen. Good resolution. Nice candidate. --Dschwen 16:00, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per Dschwen... Never thought there's be an article on odd-eyed cats - you learn something new every day! Gazhiley (talk) 17:26, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Amazing! Very interesting subject and a fantastic picture to match. Strong support. -- Jack?! 03:17, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. I wasn't wild about the setting (on a bed? Blankets?) but I do feel this is a suitable picture for the subject matter. The quality is very high. J Milburn (talk) 10:05, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • The background may only be a bed with blankets, but that's the usual location of a house cat. I see no problem with the background, it's not distracting or anything. -- Jack?! 21:39, 17 July 2010 (UTC) (I've moved this down as I assume it was meant as a response to J Milburn as didn't make sense in it's original placing below your above comment Gazhiley (talk) 00:07, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Yeah, hence the full support. However, after some further consideration, I'm gonna make it a weak support. A shot like this is very reproducible, and, though this is good, it's not mind-blowing. I don't rate the foreground fabric. J Milburn (talk) 00:36, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Nice and rare, very good -- George Chernilevsky talk 15:22, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. I might be a shag on a rock here, and the photo as such is OK, but I'm not liking the homely background for an encyclopaedia. Also technicals aren't particularly great - quite heavy noise and a fair bit of artifacting, not so much on the face, but everywhere else. Only in a gallery in the key article Heterochromia, and I can't help but wonder whether the Odd-eyed cat article should be merged into that one (and seems I'm not the only one). --jjron (talk) 17:25, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment First, a public apology to anyone I offened. I sleep walk, and its becoming problem. If I offend you, then I'm sorry. It's because I've spent too much time on Wikipedia and I"m dreaming about it. However, if you need your car door opened, or your slices of bread torn into tiny pieces, then please let me know—I'm an expert on the matter.
Jjron, I disagree. The creator has, I presume, put blue and green blankets behind the cat for a reason. You call it a homely a background, but I'm with Dschwen on this subject—it is part of the composition.
Speaking to topic of FP, I'm wholly opposed. Did you know that heterochromia could happen? If so, how old were you? I have complete heterochromia, and my classmates were amazed by it.
Speaking to the topic of merging articles, I'm on the fence. Yeah...but...I suggest this article. Gut Monk (talk) 21:42, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We can agree to disagree perhaps. I'm certainly not opposing an FP on this topic, if you think I'm suggesting that, just that I don't think this is it. In reply to your question, yes I did know heterochromia existed, and have seen it in real life, including on neighbourhood cats. I don't believe it's that rare, and the number of images in Commons:Category:Odd-eyed cats would seem to testify to that. How old was I? Well I can't remember sorry, I'm an old man... --jjron (talk) 06:38, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:June_odd-eyed-cat.jpg —Maedin\talk 22:52, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Dendropsophus microcephalus calling

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Original - A male Dendropsophus microcephalus, a species of frog in the Hylidae family, displaying its vocal sac while calling.
Reason
The image has extremely high EV in both articles- in the species article, the EV is clear, while in the frog, it serves to illustrate the call; something obviously very important in that article. I'm not sure which has higher EV, to be honest. The quality and size are both sky-high, and the composition is very compelling. The dark background is because the image was taken at night, and this is a wild specimen. Already featured on Commons.
Articles in which this image appears
Frog, Dendropsophus microcephalus.
FP category for this image
Amphibians
Creator
Brian Gratwicke/User:Brian.gratwicke

Promoted File:Dendropsophus microcephalus - calling male (Cope, 1886).jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 02:21, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Lesser Tasmanian Darner Austroaeschna hardyi female.jpg

Metallic Ringtail

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Original - Metallic Ringtail (Austrolestes cingulatus)
Reason
One can see the metallic lustre and ringtail well.
Articles in which this image appears
Metallic Ringtail
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Insects
Creator
User:Noodle snacks

Promoted File:Austrolestes cingulatus male.jpg --Jujutacular T · C 12:37, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Blackstone Hotel

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Original - Blackstone Hotel is known as the Hotel of Presidents.
Reason
This is a high EV image
Articles in which this image appears
Blackstone Hotel
Historic Michigan Boulevard District
National Register of Historic Places listings in Chicago
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
Creator
User:Jcrocker

Not promoted --J Milburn (talk) 14:25, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Common Brushtail Possum

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Original - Common Brushtail Possum (Trichosurus vulpecula)
Reason
The direct flash isn't perfect, and using off camera flash might have been a bit better (eg File:Trichosurus vulpecula brown form.jpg), but flash is needed for photography of nocturnal mammals, and the very high EV outweighs the hard and direct light source in this case imo. I intend to try and get some sugar glider and qoull photos in the future. Brushtail possums apparently come in four different colours.
Articles in which this image appears

Common Brushtail Possum

FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Mammals
Creator
Noodle snacks

Promoted File:Trichosurus vulpecula 1.jpg --J Milburn (talk) 15:24, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Emu Portrait

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Original - Portrait of an emu Dromaius novaehollandiae. Taken in Bangalore. Emu eyes are golden brown to black. The naked skin on the neck is bluish-black.
Reason
Good quality, EV. Already featured at commons and has been stable in the articles for quite some time.
Articles in which this image appears
Emu, Casuariidae
Creator
Muhammad Mahdi Karim
  • Support as nominator --Muhammad(talk) 19:28, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Going to have to oppose here, on EV grounds. A full shot of the bird would be much better EV then a headshot, and as for angles of a headshot, something like   is a bit more striking. — raeky (talk | edits) 02:30, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Good lighting and it’s nice and sharp. The background is (thankfully) out of focus and isn’t competing for attention. The Emu article already has full-body images. This photo is being used to discuss eye color. Ergo, it has EV to illustrate the intended issue. Greg L (talk) 02:58, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Sorry, nice IQ, but I'm not liking the composition. I'm not against animal 'portraits' per se, but for mine, for an emu, this is cut-off too high up; I feel a portrait orientation would have worked a lot better. I'm also not a big fan of these direct side-on photos that give the subject a two-dimensional feel. --jjron (talk) 18:34, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support This strikes me as a quality example of a valuable profile-portrait shot of the animal. I'm not seeing valuable arguments as to how this is not a quality demonstration of the beast. Cowtowner (talk) 06:09, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment It has such ugly skin, shown off by very good photo capture quality. Also a bit blurry around the eye, you must have snapped this as it was blinking. I'm not sure though that this is dynamically feature-worthy though, I would expect to see this in Valued Pictures but it seems Commons disagrees with me... How is an image selected for Picture of the day a week in advance? --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 22:28, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 22:16, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wolf Point, Chicago

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Original - Wolf Point, Chicago is the historic point that represents the origin of Chicago. The Kennedy family are celebrated owners of property interests in the currently undeveloped land in the area. The picture shows Left Bank at K Station (300 North Canal), 333 North Canal, Kinzie Street railroad bridge, 350 West Mart Center, Merchandise Mart, 300 North LaSalle and part of 333 Wacker Drive.
Reason
This is a high EV image that was suspended (see Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Chicago River at night) when it was realized that its highest EV uses were redlinks.
Articles in which this image appears
Wolf Point, Chicago
350 West Mart Center
Chicago River
Merchandise Mart
300 North LaSalle
333 Wacker Drive
Kinzie Street railroad bridge
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Urban
Creator
Flickr user Mike Boehmer

/TonyTheTiger|C]]/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:20, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

  • My oppose reasons were technical, so nothing has changed for me since a few days ago when to image was last nominated. Sorry. --Dschwen 00:56, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose as flickr Kitsch and on EV grounds, marginal EV on any individual article since it's a night shot and not of any specific building. — raeky (talk | edits) 02:26, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • O.K., I am going to continue to pretend to not see what is going on and ask a foolish question. Has there ever been an argument on FP that night broad Panos of important subjects have less EV because they do not highlight a specific subject or is that an argument you just create for my noms. (assuming this is considered an important subject).--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:42, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support While it has a little bit of digital noise in the lower left-hand corner of the water (which can be fixed) it is clearly a truly stunning image. It illustrates a multi-bulding area (Wolf Point) in a way I had not imagined (having taken a boat tour there during the day). Being a time exposure, one can even see some of the brighter stars above the sky, like one might be able to do with the naked, night-adapted eye. I can’t see any stitching seams—even in the water (which is a neat trick). I’m sure very many of our I.P. visitors (who we’re all creating content for) will really stop and stare at this one. I can’t wait to see the traffic stats on Wolf Point the day after this appears on the Main Page. Greg L (talk) 02:52, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - stunning image, but oppose per Raeky. -- Jack?! 03:10, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose poss strong oppose... I hate glare from lights in night shots... Over-exposure I think it is but not 100% sure... but the blue lights at Left top and left centre, and the orange lights along centre line to far right centre are all very distracting due to their glare... And the top of the buildings at far left and 3rd in from right (inc cut off building) are lacking in detail due to light levels... It's a great picture, just not worthy of an FP for me sorry... Oh and while I'm here can I just say the EV is useless for the named buildings in this shot... as a non-chicagoean this picture doesn't give me any clue about the buildings you have placed this into... Each listed building could be any of about a dozen in this shot, so saying this pic is high in EV for each article is not right in my opinion... For example if I wanted to find a picture of for example 300 North LaSalle this picture would not help me in the slightest, and that's kinda against the idea of an encyclopedia for me... Gazhiley (talk) 23:57, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • No one said it was high EV in each article. It is only high EV in the first two. It is like any pano of a variety of encyclopedic subjects. It not high EV for all of them.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:17, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • It's quoted in the introduction as a "high EV image" and listed as in 7 articles... So therefore one would naturally assume it was high EV for all... If it has only got EV for two, then why nom it for 7? Just nom it for the two it has EV for... And my point still remains... if I wanted to see what the Wolf Point, Chicago or the 350 West Mart Center (the first two in the list that you says it has high EV for) looked like this image is useless as it could be any part of this picture... How do I know from this which building 350 West Mart Center is?! Plus I still don't like the glare from the lights... Gazhiley (talk) 10:39, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • 7 articles are listed in "Articles in which this image apppears" not "Articles in which this is a high EV image".--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:19, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
          • But this is my point - it shouldn't be listed in those articles as it has no EV for them... Matthewedwards has re-iterated this below as well... Gazhiley (talk) 10:46, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
            • Dear right hand, I have fixed the WP:CAPTIONs. Get off it. signed the left hand.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:19, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
              • That's very innapropriate and inflamatory language Tony and I'd appreciate it if you didn't use such a tone. I'm merely pointing out my objections. Personally I don't care what you have done to WP:CAPTIONs I still don't agree that this picture belongs on most of the articles due to lack of EV. I'm allowed to voice my opinions without receiving such attitude in return as far as I'm aware... Gazhiley (talk) 13:46, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
                • I have said time and time again that you picture guys (The left hand) are the only reviewers who prefer not to have medium and low EV images added to the articles. All other review processes (The right hand, i.e, FAC, GAC, FLC, PR, etc.) prefer images of this type to be added. Which articles do you feel would be improved by its removal?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:25, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
                  • All of them except Wolf Point, Chicago and Chicago River. It has no EV in articles on individual buildings because the image doesn't help identify the individual buildings or bridge, even with the best written captions. I can only identify the buildings and bridge because the articles have other images of them, and for that reason, this image is useless in those articles. I think you've misunderstood both hands. I think the "left hand" does appreciate medium and low EV images in articles, because they still offer some EV; they just don't nominate them at FPC because they're not high EV. When images provide high EV in one article but little in another, the "left hand" simply doesn't list it under "Articles in which this image appears". What that sentence really means, and there could be an argument to change the wording, is, "Articles in which this image appears [and provides high EV]". The "right hand" appreciates medium and low EV images in articles, too, as long as they provide some EV. I've written plenty of FAs and FLs and reviewed many more, and I was the FL director for over a year. If you nominated any of the articles you've listed this image in at FAC or FLC, I would question the image's EV. You got Inauguration of Barack Obama listed at FA. Miley Cyrus sang at the Kid's Ball, and George Lopez did some standup, but you wouldn't slap image of them in there just because we happen to have pictures of them available. FA, FL and GA require the article stays on topic and is relevant, and this applies equally to the pictures used as well as prose. Matthewedwards :  Chat  15:07, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
                    • Couldn't have put it better myself Matthewedwards... Oh and btw Tony it was more the "Get off it" rather than the hand bit I objected to... Gazhiley (talk) 15:24, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
                      • I shouldn't have to say, that I have done enough WP:GAs to know what reviewers want since I may have the most on WP. An article like Inauguration of Barack Obama has an abundance of exactly on point images so we don't need tangential images. That is not what most of the articles we are discussing here are like. Look at my next WP:GAC (1997 Michigan Wolverines football team). I am not going to find a bunch of images of that team playing. I am going to have to put in a bunch of low EV images. A bunch of images you pictures you guys would say have no relevance. Stuff like pictures of the stadium and players a decade later will be pretty much the only choices I have. Reviewers will be happy to see these images because we have nothing else. Lets look at an article like Kinzie Street railroad bridge that you think would be better off without the image. The main author of the article who has nominated it at WP:GAC has deciced to move the image it into the main text. Obviously, people who know the GAC process understand how less than perfect images help an article. Removing it from 350 West Mart Center would border on idiotic. It is not the best we can hope for, but it is not degrading the article. In many of its other placements, it is sort of decorative, but does not have a negative impact on any of the articles.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:33, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
                        • I know the GAC process perfectly and have experienced it many times. I do not understand how images that don't help the reader, help the article. Removing it from the West Mart Center makes perfect sense because the image does not help a reader identify that building. Only an idiot wouldn't be able to see that. And on that point, I think I'll stop. There's just no helping you. Matthewedwards :  Chat  20:03, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
                          • I am going to assume for a second that you can see by the picture that anyone familiar with the neighborhood would know what building we are talking about by having this image at 350 West Mart Center. If you are going to pretend it would not help the reader know the location of the building, I might as well ignore you. Sure the reader can not look and see if the building is limestone, granite or brick, but the reader can see "Oh it is that building at Wolf Point." That helps many readers who know what they are looking at. Night images are not uncommon on WP. this is one that is in a lot of Chicago articles. This recent FA is another. There are a bunch of others. Clearly, you can not see many of the architectural features, but purging WP of night images is not really that sensible. If we get a good daytime image, we can move this down in the article. Without a good replacement, I see no reason not to have an image that clearly represents the location of a building.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:41, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
                            • What about the readers who aren't familiar with the neighbourhood. There are far more readers of Wikipedia who are not, than readers who are. Of course the reader needs to know the location of the building, I just don't think this image achieves that in the best way possible, or even in one of the best ways. I like night images, I like this image. I could see it blown up to poster size and hung on a white wall of some yuppie's studio apartment, I just don't think it's good for some of the articles it's in. I haven't said to delete night images from Wikipedia. I'm really not going to continue this any longer. Clearly we're just going around in circles when there are plenty of other things on the site that need doing. :) Best, Matthewedwards :  Chat  14:54, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • oppose I agree with Greg that this is visually attractive and would entice readers to any articles it's attatched to in a blurb if it appeared on the main page. For that it gets 2 thumbs up. But I also agree that it is completely useless in the articles listed because there is no way for the person to properly identify each building, and the captions at the articles don't help any either. At Wolf Point, Chicago, the caption says "Night view of Wolf point [sic] (located between 350 West Mart Center and the Chicago River" Well, I don't know what 350 West Mart Center is, so it doesn't help me locate Wolf Point. It doesn't highlight what 350 West Mart Center is in that article either, because that caption says "Apparel Center sits at a juncture in the Chicago River." Great. So do a bunch of other buildings in that picture. It's a poor illustration of the Chicago River, because it's nighttime, so the river is black and just reflects all the lights, and doesn't show any detail of the actual river (take look at our FP of the River Thames). It's nice decoration for the articles it's in, but it's crap at illustrating the subjects. Matthewedwards :  Chat  22:14, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Featured Pictures are defined as follows:
I would have thought it clear that this image is eye-catching and would make our visiting readership stop and want to click that article. I’m surprised others don’t feel that way. Greg L (talk) 00:49, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Greg it is not you. It is me. There is WP:GANG of people derailing my WP:CUP picture points by pretending every image I post has no EV. If I wanted to win the CUP I would not be spending my time here. I could put up about 3000 points in the final round by doing DYKs if I wanted to win. I will mostly just go about my business here on WP and whatever score I get I get. Fortunately, for all of Sasatas fans here in the Mushroom fan club there are not enough DYKs that I am interested in doing for the CUP to win. I could have been a contender if not judged by people trying incessantly to pick fights with me, but don't try to make any sense of the logic they use to shoot down my noms. You will go crazy if you believe that they believe what they are saying.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:34, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I had no idea you were in the Cup, and I don't think I've ever voted on a mushroom photo. Matthewedwards :  Chat  14:54, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Tony, this has got nothing to do with the Cup- you can't even claim points for these, as you and everyone involved with the Cup knows. Your random attacks on Sasata (who is one of our best content writers and a capable photographer) just make you look sour. There's no conspiracy, there's no attempt from anyone to derail your nominations, and there's no unfair advantage that Sasata has over you. If you have a genuine complaint about the Cup, make it in the correct venue, and I will of course hear you out; please don't drag it up here. J Milburn (talk) 19:04, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
First of all, I have a lot of respect for Sasata, who is most likely the most productive wikipedian in the world right now (There was a time when I was and there was a then Mitchezania was). I actually made sure to recognize Sasata personally when he surpassed me at WP:FOUR. I would put my money on him to win the CUP. I don't have the time to be as productive as him. I understand that I could not get credit for this image. My point is that there is a WP:GANG saying crazy stuff to derail any FPC or VPC for which I could earn CUP points. I don't have enough of an interest or belief in the process to pursue it any further than to say it exists.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:37, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I can assure you that I am not in any such gang, so far as I am aware. I don't remember you nominating any which could have gained you Cup points. J Milburn (talk) 02:25, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I am not naming names, but a lot of the shenanigans is in suddenly preferring no perspective correction now that I have learned hugin. Every architecture work I have nomed and corrected has either failed or been passed uncorrected. The other stuff is just pretending not to understand why everywhere else on WP except the picture world would consider the pictures relevant.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:30, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
For transparency, I just thought I let everybody know that I also have been put in relation with this "gang". For my part I know is absurd, but anybody should judge for him/her-self. --Elekhh (talk) 10:36, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 22:18, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tramp

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Original - A tramp depicted in an 1899 U.S. poster. In the American English, the word tramp typically refers to a long term homeless person who travels from place to place as an itinerant vagrant, traditionally walking or hiking all year round. The term was in common usage between the 1880s and the 1940s.
Reason
High quality image that has been gently cleaned. The image shows the sterotypical tramp from the middle of the period when, according to the article, the term was most popular in the US- on that note, I found the difference between the American use of the term and the way it is used in British English rather interesting. As an aside, I love the style; I think it's a wonderful picture regardless of any EV.
Articles in which this image appears
Tramp
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Lifestyle
Creator
A Russell-Morgan Print. The U.S. Printing Co., Cin., U.S.A. Cleanup/restoration ("color level (pick white & black points), cropped, and converted to JPEG (quality level 88) with the GIMP 2.6.1") by Eubulides
Discussion of original, which led to an edit
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

Oh, crap! I forgot about this! Will start work now. Adam Cuerden (talk) 13:10, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 
Edit 1: Lots and lots of changes. Went back to the original for this, since Milburn's was a JPEG, and I thought the crop a little tight. From my experience, these are very, very likely to be the "real" colours; or at least the intended (The paper may have yellowed a bit more with age, but it would almost certainly have been white when printed. LoC scans of black-and-white images have a tendency towards somewhat bizarre colours, unfortunately, but knowing what such images usually look like can allow sensible decisions to be made.)

Edit uploaded, Support edit - also, I removed the little notice about when it closes, because I have no idea how that works for suspended noms. Someone may readd it, if they know the time to have it close. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:19, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just added the timer. The nom will close precisely 9 days from now. Jujutacular T · C 15:27, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Tramp_smoking_cigar_with_cane_over_arm_-_restoration.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 22:19, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A half of a pure, electron-beam remelted ruthenium bar

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Original - the element Ruthenium, atomic number 44
Reason
an another fine chemical element image
Articles in which this image appears
Ruthenium, Group 8 element
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Sciences/Materials science
Creator
Alchemist-hp

Promoted File:Ruthenium_a_half_bar.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 01:30, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Uluguru Mountain Ranges

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Original - A panorama illustrating the Uluguru Mountains in Morogoro, Tanzania. The mountains' peak is at 2,630m
 
Edit 1 - A panorama illustrating the Uluguru Mountains in Morogoro, Tanzania. The mountains' peak is at 2,630m
Reason
Good quality, EV and res. Better in temrs of composition and EV compared to this Valued Picture. Already featured at commons
Articles in which this image appears
Uluguru Mountains
Creator
Muhammad Mahdi Karim

Comments on the edit, please. Which do we prefer? Makeemlighter (talk) 22:28, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Uluguru_Mountain_Ranges.jpg --I'ḏ♥One 02:20, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Flounder, Bothus mancus

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Original - Three first frames of the same fish taken a few minutes apart showing the ability of flounders to change the colors to match the surroundings. The last fourth frame show the same flounder bury himself into the sand leaving only the eyes protruding. It is a common behavior, when flounders are hunting, or hiding.
Reason
Great EV; very good quality; Not nearly enough FP of underwater images taken in the wild
Articles in which this image appears
Underwater camouflage and mimicry ;Peacock flounder
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Fish
Creator
Mbz1

Promoted File:Peacock Flounder Bothus mancus in Kona.jpg --I'ḏ♥One 06:15, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Ernest Borgnine

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Original - Ernest Borgnine shows off his new Chief Petty Officer (CPO) cover at the United States Navy Memorial in Washington, D.C. in October 2004.
Reason
I stumbled upon this picture a few weeks ago while adding another image to his article. The interesting pose and smile creates interest for the reader.
Articles in which this image appears
Ernest Borgnine
Boy-Scoutz 'n the Hood
FP category for this image
People - Entertainment
Creator
Mark D. Faram of the U.S. Navy

Promoted File:Ernest-Borgnine 2004.JPEG --I'ḏ♥One 06:48, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Plutonium pellet

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Original - Plutonium-238 pellet photographed under its own light, these pellets are used in radioisotope thermoelectric generators.
 
Edit 1 - Denoised, removed dust spots and smudge
 
A sharper picture of a pellet used in a Radioisotope thermoelectric generator.
Reason
Access to Plutonium is virtually non-existent, it's so radioactive a pellet as shown gets red hot under it's own energy. The technical limitations, danger and impossible to access samples of this element would mean we could probably forgive some of the technical flaws, namely quite a bit of noise. This provides extensive EV for the articles it is in. We do have another photo of these pellets, but it's under the minimum size and has a DOF issue. This image is unique since it clearly illustrates the heat and light the element emits on its own being a dark shot.
Articles in which this image appears
Plutonium-238, Plutonium, Plutonium(IV) oxide, Isotopes of plutonium
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Sciences/Materials science
Creator
United States Department of Energy
  • Support as nominator --— raeky (talk | edits) 05:08, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support It might benefit from some mild editing to denoise, but this is an astounding image of something which it's very unlikely any of the readers will ever see in person. Remember, kids: When a substance literally glowing from radioactivity, that glow means "danger!" Adam Cuerden (talk) 11:35, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Uploaded Edit: Attempted the mild editing mentioned above. It was hard to decide exactly how much noise to remove, so I purposely left some noise, so that it still seems real. Too much denoising, and the texture gets wiped out. I've also removed an insane amount of dust spots and one smudge. The edit is also a bit brighter and a bit blurry, but that was a side effect of the denoiser. I couldn't really sharpen it decently, so I left it alone. --Aiyizo (talk) 19:52, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Either --Aiyizo (talk) 19:52, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Edit 1 I don’t get to see plutonium 238 every day. I saw a picture like this a long time ago and always thought it fascinating. Very nice find. Greg L (talk) 21:02, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question How big is this pellet? The light makes it somewhat difficult to tell. SpencerT♦C 23:49, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose and Comment I retracted my “support” vote. Just because the DOE provides a über-oversampled image (3200 pixels across) is no reason for it to magically circumvent our minimum resolution requirement, IMO. There is a much sharper image on Wikipedia, shown at right. And, though sharper, it too has out-of-focus areas because of DOF issues. Moreover, at 609 pixels wide, it doesn’t have enough resolution to meet our minimums. This particular nomination doesn’t meet FPC minimums because it is fuzzy at any size larger than this 260-pixel thumbnail. One should be able to fill a 1000-pixel-width window (at minimum) with sharpnes. The only possible exception are for technological brick walls like photos of auroras from space, or some scanning electron microscope images of really small things (or an amazing picture of a light wave). But these images are simple, earth-bound, shirt-sleeve environment shots, so the only excuse is they were shot with something like a Sony Mavica that wrote to a floppy disk. Greg L (talk) 00:37, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    P.S. I was going to volunteer to add a legend-like scale (the sort you see on maps). Of course, that would have required knowledge of this thing’s size. That’s when I went to the DOE site and that, in turn, sensitized me to the focus and oversampling issues. Greg L (talk) 02:05, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    • I think your misunderstanding the nature of this material, it's DEFINITELY NOT "shirt sleeve" environment, it's radiation suit, and glove box only environment. These pellets are not mass produced or readily available, they're EXTREMELY expensive and outside of very tightly controlled government facilities would never exist. The nominated photograph is shot in the dark under it's own light, i.e. it's glowing red hot from it's own radiation decay energy. Any element that gets so hot it causes it's self to glow (or in the case of it's metal form actually catch fire) isn't something one can find pictures of every day. Getting a better image of this element could be considered virtually impossible, i.e. like getting better pictures of the surface of the moon. Thus it should be treated differently then other images. — raeky (talk | edits) 02:22, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • I think you would be surprised by what I know about my fissile materials and other radioisotopes from U-235 on up. Pu-238 is an alpha emitter (so too is the bomb-grade Pu-239). Alpha particles can be stopped by paper. Indeed, you don’t want to inhale the stuff. But when they brought the 5 kg Pu-239 core to New Mexico for the Trinity shot, one of the physicists held it in his hand. It was even slightly warm because of the slight alpha radiation it was emitting. He blanched. If this Pu-238 cylinder wasn’t so hot, it too could be held in one’s hand after it was cleaned of loose particles. It being hot and being an alpha emitter is not the same sort of fundamental limitation I am talking about (like an aurora from space) where we must make exceptions for resolution and sharpness. As for your statement Any element that gets so hot it causes it's self to glow (or in the case of it's metal form actually catch fire) isn't something one can find pictures of every day: Well, that’s exactly my feelings and is almost exactly what I wrote when I first voted “support”. But I later struck that vote because of this really bad lack of sharpness. Even though it is way-cool, it is simply not, IMO, of “high technical standard”, as required of FP pictures. The rarity of a government-supplied thing like this and the difficulty of getting pictures like this is really more of a non-free, fair-use argument if there happen to have been a copyright issue than it is a basis for excusing poor focus. Sorry; that’s my reasoning. Let’s see how others feel. Greg L (talk) 05:03, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • A little side note. The first pure-fission bombs needed “tamper”, which was a dense metal surrounding the plutonium pit to keep it inertially confined for a millionth of a second. The tamper comprised two hemispheres that created a ball about as big as a bowling ball, with a soft ball-size pocket in the center where the plutonium pit goes. One of the first tampers they had fabricated for Trinity was a gold one. Then they changed to a depleted uranium one. The scientists worked in wooden shacks at that time. Oppenheimer used one of the two hemispheres of the gold tamper as a door stop for the remainder of the project. Greg L (talk) 05:21, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. I'm feeling what Greg is saying here. This may be the best we have, and it may be very difficult to reproduce, but that does not mean that we should feature it. J Milburn (talk) 11:10, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Same reasons as above. Jfitch (talk) 08:08, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - This is one of those many subjects/articles where a FP is just not feasible. Cacophony (talk) 07:20, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 04:44, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Face-off

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Original - Series showing Louie Caporusso winning a face-off
Reason
This is about as high EV as a set of action sports images can get in their primary use
Articles in which this image appears
face-off
Louie Caporusso (only 1 of set)
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Entertainment
Creator
Greg Sommers (flickr user Greg-ography)
  • Support I think the strength of this set is the action sequence: 1-The puck is dropped, 2-Caporusso wins the puck, 3-He passes it under his opponent, whose move fails to steal the puck. While you could argue that the individual images might not have an optimal composition, I think action is the most important thing here. -- Orionist ★ talk 19:49, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • To someone who doesn't know a thing about the sport the series of images is near useless. — raeky (talk | edits) 20:03, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • I thought we were suppose to assume the reader knows what he is looking for when he chances on a page.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:26, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • We assume are readers are experts about everything they read and are not visiting it to learn something about it? News to me. — raeky (talk | edits) 20:33, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
          • Not experts. Page naming conventions and hatnote conventions are based on assuming people know what they are looking for and can spell it correctly.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:06, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
            • Sure, I accept they know what they're looking for and are not just random mindless robots randomly looking at random stuff for no meaning. But that doesn't mean someone wanting to know about face-offs visiting face-off will be able to understand and follow whats going on in these three images. It would need explanation, probably arrows and drawings over the picture to indicate the flow of the puck, it would also be FAR more valuable to have a video of this exchange, so they can actually see the action of whats going on. Trying to condense something as dynamic as this into 3 shots is not easy, and I don't feel this does it well. It's just too hard to follow the action, to much time has gone between the shots to follow the movement and know what took place. Without being told whats going on you couldn't pick up on it from the pictures, imho. — raeky (talk | edits) 21:11, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
          • (ec)To be fair, we do feature some highly technical images. Scientific diagrams, for instance, some of which presume considerable understanding from readers when shown on independently of the article in which they appear (and even the articles are sometimes very technical). I don't think that quite applies here; the image is hardly featured in the most technical of articles. J Milburn (talk) 21:14, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Sports photos are exceedingly ubiquitous and this composition and its lighting simply looks unremarkable. This is going to be a tough one to shoot without lots of flash fill because the players are too dark and there is no obvious fix without blowing out the ice. Greg L (talk) 21:05, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I would suggest that this belongs in sport if it is determined to have more EV in face-off (or other people if it is determined to have more EV in the other). J Milburn (talk) 21:14, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Greg L and Raeky (video suggestion)... Gazhiley (talk) 23:49, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose It would be ideal if the picture was taken from the opposite side such that the referee isn't in the way. Also, the few number of pictures prevents one from really understanding what actions are occurring.-- mcshadypl TC 00:28, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I don't like the composition on this shot, nor the angle, it doesn't seem anything special, certainly not too difficult to reproduce and get a better shot. Jfitch (talk) 11:23, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 04:43, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Uranium

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Original - A billet of highly enriched Uranium-235 that was recovered from scrap processed at the Y-12 National Security Complex.
Reason
Another very unlikely element anyone outside of a controlled government facility would have access too, Uranium-235, meets technical standards, provides excellent value to multiple articles.
Articles in which this image appears
Uranium-235, Uranium, 2000s commodities boom
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Sciences/Materials science
Creator
United States Department of Energy

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 06:23, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Close up of the Leucanthemum Vulgare

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Original - Close up of the Leucanthemum Vulgare
Reason
It's sharp, well composed and shows the distinct characteristics og this family of plants
Articles in which this image appears
Leucanthemum
FP category for this image
Plants
Creator
User:TobiasKierk (CC) / TobiasK @ WP
  • Support as nominator --TobiasKierk (talk) 23:13, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose -- Poor lighting, subject out of focus. A weird exposure choice for this subject! -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 14:19, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Uneven lighting, significant colour fringing, overexposure (particularly in the bottom right)... - Zephyris Talk 15:07, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Blown highlights. — raeky (talk | edits) 15:29, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I hear you guys - and I actually agree when I see the picture again. Thanks for the feedback. TobiasKierk (talk) 16:35, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - poor lighting, not in focus and patchy exposure. -- Jack?! 16:51, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose; by no means a bad effort, and I suspect you may well be up to offering FPs in the future, but this one's not there, as above. J Milburn (talk) 16:53, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. This is certainly not a bad picture, and looks to be a considerable improvement on the one it replaced in the article; however standards for flowers tend to be very high in general at FPC, and as stated above this is unlikely to make it. If you'd like to get feedback before nominating in future can I point you to Wikipedia:Picture peer review, in case you don't know about it. And now let's all sit around watching this for the next eight days. --jjron (talk) 17:00, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Try again, FPC loves nature stuff like this when the quality is there, and has pretty high standards because a lot come through here. We might as well suggest speedy close unless the problems can be fixed or a nicer edited version is offered. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 17:42, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose and Comment Irrespective of focus issues, and notwithstanding that others don’t like the uneven lighting, I find this lighting to be truly beautiful; a tranquility about it. I thought I’d add those 2¢ (possibly, I suppose, because an old “personanalysis” test said I am “Immune to social pressure”). I wouldn’t mind a picture with much, much sharper focus but with lighting along these lines. I can see however, that there would be a tight tradeoff between achieving an overall bright-ish image and not blowing out highlights, so perhaps a little more shadow fill than this would be better. Greg L (talk) 20:59, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Provided you had a tripod and the flower wasn't blowing in the wind, you could do a HDR-esque combination to keep all the areas from blowing out or being too dark/light. Even-still it's possible to get the exposure right to keep the highlights from blowing and if the darker areas are too dark thats what Photoshop is for. ;-) — raeky (talk | edits) 21:06, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment An object (say a coat) hung between the sun and the subject of your photo would have probably fixed your problems here, evening out the light. Noodle snacks (talk) 12:00, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Firstly I will assert that it is sharp enough. However it isn't that sharp, but not because of your excellent camera/lens. I'm guessing the focus plane is behind or in front of where it should be, probably as a result of using One Shot AF and hand-holding. Personally I'd be going to F4 or so just for the depth of field (this is for an encyclopaedia, not a portfolio). Noodle snacks (talk) 10:48, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 14:17, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Common collared lizard

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Original - A common collared lizard in Black Canyon of the Gunnison National Park.
Reason
This looks better at full size than it does as a thumbnail. A technically fantastic shot used well within the article- this angle is perfect to show off the pattern on the body, and especially on the neck, from which the lizard takes its name- altogether a very well executed shot. Already featured on Commons.
Articles in which this image appears
Common collared lizard, Crotaphytidae
FP category for this image
Reptiles
Creator
Dschwen
  • Support as nominator --J Milburn (talk) 23:46, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Conditional support This is a really well done photograph. It is very sharp, the focus is perfect, and the fine detail on the lizard looks neat at full zoom (besides being colorful). However, I think trying to get the entire lizard in the frame (close to the very tip of its tail) is not only unnecessary, but detracts from it. I just cropped a 2573 × 1810 section and thought it much improved. 00:09, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
    • Why would you do that?! There is another shot of the same lizard linked on the image page where I was closer to it. No need to shoehorn the full view into an artificial close-up if there is an actual close-up. --Dschwen 01:10, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • ‘Cause… this one is better than those? And would look even better (IMHO) if cropped closer? Some two-thirds of the image area here is devoted to giving room for that tail. If cropped closer, I think it would be really, really good and would be solid FPC material. I don’t need to see the dust mites on the tip of its tail; that gorgeous, fine detail on the lizard’s body combined with the depth of field-control (and many other variables) are what sets this apart from others. Greg L (talk) 01:32, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • Uhm... I was talking about this one. --Dschwen 02:17, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
          • That’s a pretty nice picture too. You just barely squeaked by with the focus zone, didn’t you? But I’m judging this picture in the context of it adding EV for the two articles you linked to. For me, I thinking it is unfortunate and undesirable to have so much photo area dedicated to the proposition of framing a highway that stretches from Washington state to Kansas. It ought to be cropped tighter and then it would be very, very good indeed. Greg L (talk) 04:44, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
            • What do you mean by barely squeaked by with the focus zone? In the picture I linked to the entire lizzard minus the tail (which you apparently don't care about) is in perfect focus. There is no barely and certainly no squeaking. *shakes head* --Dschwen 13:07, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support in current form. I disagree with the above and feel the space added by the inclusion of the tail adds to the composition of the shot, and also accurately illustrating it's long tail that may not be clear in other shots, which is important as it a significant feature of this lizard. Jfitch (talk) 09:06, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Nice use of DOF, everything in focus that needs to be with pleasing bokeh. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 11:05, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - As above although the camera position is not the best. -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 15:21, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Nice photo --George Chernilevsky talk 06:47, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I'm liking it... — raekyT 00:55, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Wonderful! --Mbz1 (talk) 04:28, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Noodle snacks (talk) 07:02, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support--Avala (talk) 20:58, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Collared Lizard 2.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 01:22, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Central Heterochromia

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Original - Central heterochromia is an eye condition in which there are two different colors in the same iris. Central heterochromia is where the central (pupillary) zone of the iris is a different color than the mid-peripheral (ciliary) zone.
Reason
Sometimes, yourself is the best illustration. I have central heterochromia; The camera I got for Christmas is fairly good, I thought, why not?
Articles in which this image appears
Heterochromia (replaced a similar, but much lower-resolution image)
FP category for this image
I'd probably say Wikipedia:Featured_pictures/Sciences/Biology
Creator
Adam Cuerden
 
Edit 1: crop, very slight lightening (any more would be misleading) per request.
 
Edit 2: A version of “Edit 1”, but with histogram spread from 4% black to about 98% white.
  • Support as nominator --Adam Cuerden (talk) 17:44, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I would suggest a little brighter and cropped a little closer. Greg L (talk) 20:51, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Edit 2 (or Edit 1) Though I would prefer a bit brighter yet, I can support this. I am certainly impressed with the sharpness. And the choice of the eye to use looks like it is a median example (rather than the über exaggerations one might see in medical books). Greg L (talk) 18:44, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I suspect brighter would be unrealistic - eyeballs aren't pure white, after all. =) I have to admit, getting it this sharp was interesting - I took about a hundred photos, then selected the best. Getting the lighting right was the hard part - I wanted minimal reflections, but there had to be enough light to illuminate the eye clearly. Finally ended up using the flash, but with my finger over part of the flash. On the image page, I describe my [failed] battle with my nose, which you can see a bit of a reflection of, but which, short of matte black facial paint, I think is unavoidable. =)Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:14, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Indeed, there wasn’t all that much room for brightening it. Still, I pushed & spread the histogram out to use the available space without blowing out any highlights. It’s another one to consider. I support either Edit 1 or Edit 2, with a preference for the latter. And, BTW, all that effort (a hundred shots) to get the focus certainly explains why it’s so darn sharp. Nice, nice work. It certainly deserves FP status, IMO. Greg L (talk) 22:18, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • They were fairly quick - I wasn't really paying attention to the time, but I think it took an hour or two, all told, mostly in futzing about to try and figure out what worked and what didn't. It was quicker than most of my restoration work, though, of course, I had excellent control of the subject, which was also readily at hand, neither of which I believe is normally the case with photographic FPs. =) More on topic, Support Edit 2, although I still Support original or Edit 1. I prefer the wider crop, but can also see how the tighter one may be more useful for the articles it's in. Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:40, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Edit 2 Stands out from the ubiquitous eye photos around here, and very nicely illustrates the concept. I have this in my own eyes and had no clue what it was called until 2 minutes ago. I like it when Wikipedia does that. --Aiyizo (talk) 23:20, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Edit 2 Going to throw my support in here, looks a little freaky a big eye, but as eyes goes, it's a nice picture of one. — raekyT 00:56, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • I think it's partially freaky because the eye is so wide open: That's rarely seen except in moments of anger or fear. Unfortunately, it's kind of necessary for a picture like this =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 20:21, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support any, pref edit 2. Good work. I'll also note that I have this same condition, unbeknownst to me until this nom :) Jujutacular T · C 04:29, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support prefer edit 2. Well captured, good EV --Muhammad(talk) 16:45, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose: I'm sorry, but I find this picture rather unpleasant. The prominent blood vessels are not typical of many eyes, and the wide-open look is unnecessary and uncomfortable to look at. I like eyes and have absorbed time with Flickr browsing in the past, and have witnessed many, many, many eye shots superior to this. We have a sectoral heterochromia photo here on WP that shows the eye does not need to be wide open: File:Sectoral_heterochromia.jpg. Though not freely licensed, here's an example of heterochromia looking gorgeous, not frightening: [13]. I don't argue the image's value (and the central heterochromia is great), but this is not FP to me. I also think the crop is too cramped and the eyebrow hair makes both versions appear "messy" and cluttered. Maedin\talk 18:58, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Eye Central Heterochromia crop and lighter.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 01:29, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nepalese Rupee coin

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Articles in which this image appears
Nepalese rupee, Economy of Nepal, Rupee
Creator
Benjamint 08:16, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I just had a look at some photos of Nepalese banknotes and only one was tagged, thats not to say that whoever uploaded them was correct though. I'll have to leave it to somebody more knowledgeable in this area to determine Benjamint 00:23, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 09:12, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mourner and burning ghat in Pashupatinath Temple

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Original - Arya Ghat, near Pashupatinath temple is the most widely used place of cremation in Nepal. Open-air cremations are held at the temple and non-hindu visitors may watch from outside. Here a mourner watches over a burning ghat
Articles in which this image appears
Pashupatinath Temple, Cremation
Creator
Benjamint 07:28, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as nominator --Benjamint 07:28, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • These ceremonies are quite public and photography is accepted. Nevertheless I chose an angle from which the mourner is unrecognizable due to the heat-distortion Benjamint 07:33, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Nice shot. Good EV in both articles and the image quality is excellent, albeit low res. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 08:20, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I think that, if this was to pass, it may warrant a place here- it's potentially a rather disturbing image. J Milburn (talk) 19:42, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per Diliff. I can only imagine that squeamishness is preventing others from participating. Question though: the article says "Non-Hindu visitors are allowed to have a look at the temple from the other bank of Bagmati river" and "Along the shores of the Bagmati river near the temple lies "Arya Ghat", the most widely used place of cremation in Nepal", while this other image of yours   which looks like a zoom of this location  , and your use of the 400mm lens would indicate that this possibly was taken from across the river and is possibly Arya Ghat rather than the temple. Phew - to get to my point, if I am correct, the caption, image page, and location in the article all should be improved to reflect this, as it would all be misleading atm (btw a geocode would be nice too :-) ). If I'm wrong, please correct me. -jjron (talk) 13:54, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. I would like to support this, but I have given it some thought, and I have some issues. Firstly, the background is rather distracting- the mourner and corrugated iron draw the eye. Secondly, the image isn't massive- yeah, it's above our minimum, but I do get the impression that a slightly larger image would be better. Thirdly, I'm concerned about EV. It's very much just another shot of a cremation in cremation (on a loosely related note, the fact we don't have an article on cremation in Hinduism specifically is shocking...) while I can't really see what it's adding to the other article. All round, I don't think this one is quite there, sorry. J Milburn (talk) 16:16, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • I can't say I agree that the corrugated iron draws the eye. It's hard not to be drawn to the burning cadaver in the foreground, surely? And I don't think it's just another shot - it's one of only two images that actually shows a cremation complete with cadaver up close. All the others show the scene or building in which cremations occur without really showing the cremation itself in any detail. It's a little disturbing, sure, but it's got loads of EV for that reason IMO. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 16:47, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • I'd feel more comfortable with this if the respective articles were cleaned up a little (with images, less can often be more...) so that the EV was clear. As I said, I'd love to support this. J Milburn (talk) 00:39, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose This is nothing special. It actually is snap shotty. However, it might make FP with the following advice.
Do you see the guy in the background? POSITION HIM. Walk up to people, and talk to them. Gut Monk (talk) 00:00, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Perhaps you were sleep-editing again since while you're linked image is a beautifull portrait it doesn't have any relevance or EV to this subject, and neither would any similar image that I could have taken. I doubt that the mourner's hoodie would have quite the same impression as the girl's more traditional garb, leaving him out of context and looking more like a grumpy adolescent missing his skate-board. Furthermore, having read the article and above comments you would of course have noted that non-hindus may not enter that area.. and seriously, would you feel comfortable walking up to a grieving man asking for a photo shoot and to kindly sign some model release papers? Benjamint 01:27, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Don't you know that photo is world famous and even lead to a recent investigation long after the war that picture was taken during to find out who she is? I think his point is that the person might've been more interesting than just him being at a cremation, a slice of life sort of thing. It's also stupid to make assumptions and jump to conclusions about people just off their clothes, you don't know what either of the people you mentioned might be going through or who they really are. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 03:30, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think you may have missed Benjamint's point, but anyway... Re the green hoodie fella, I'm not even sure he is a mourner. This more distant image indicates that apart from being a cremation site, this appears to be a general thoroughfare and possibly just a bit of a 'hangout spot' as well. Therefore he may be nothing to do with this cremation, but just hanging out there - talk about a slice of life! --jjron (talk) 08:58, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think Benjamint's photo has a legitimate photojournalistic method and style and he makes a legitimate point about the Afghan girl's portrait being completely different. A photojournalist documents and observes, there's certainly no obligation to interact. In fact, sometimes interaction affects the ability to observe impartially. And I would have taken issue with Gut Monk's response too. Rather than merely expressing an opinion about the photo, he seemed to imply that he was the foremost expert on photojournalistic composition and it could only make FP if his advice was followed. Comes across as a bit arrogant and condescending... Ðiliff «» (Talk) 09:01, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose looks more like the result of a riot then a religious cremation. The background does not look attractive. Also this would have to be excluded from the front page I think, burning bodies probably isn't something we should put on the front page. — raekyT 00:44, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I know what you mean, but I'm sure there would be some people who would have something to say about that. WackyWace you talkin' to me? 19:22, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We without a doubt censor the front page, theres an active blacklist of articles for FA and some images like this won't be featured as a POD. — raekyT 19:38, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, we do censor the main page, although that's an aside really. It shouldn't affect whether it becomes a FP or not. And I don't see how it could be mistaken for the result of a riot with after any real consideration. A rioter likely wouldn't place a body on a bed of wood and set it alight. Besides, even if it could be mistaken for something else, that's probably the nature of the event, and not the fault of the photo. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 20:41, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's not the fault of the photo but the background, it just doesn't look good.. Theres a lot better ways to photograph a religious cremation.. — raekyT 20:52, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Support Good quality and rare image.--Mbz1 (talk) 04:26, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Per those that do. Noodle snacks (talk) 06:11, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question What is it that's burning? Is it an animal? Gazhiley (talk) 10:37, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • It's a cadaver - a dead person. No, ghat is not a typo of goat. ;-) Ðiliff «» (Talk) 11:22, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • No ;-) required - I assumed it was something like a goat... but an actual human is burning? eeewwwwwwww!!! This better not go near the front page... I've just had lunch too! This sort of thing should stay inside buildings not be out on the street... Disgusting... Gazhiley (talk) 13:28, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • In all seriousness, that is a little culturally insensitive. This is common practice within Indian/Hindu culture. J Milburn (talk) 14:06, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
          • Unfortunately this is probably a pervasive feeling amount the western cultures. I personally wouldn't want to see or worse smell this IRL. If this was the Indian wiki, then it would probably without question be allowed on the front page, but this isn't and discretion should probably be followed and exclude this from the POD. — raekyT 14:12, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
            • Personally I see no reason this shouldn't go on the mainpage and find nothing offensive about it myself, but meh, I don't think POTD is the main point of FPC. But just looking at the !votes and comments on this, is there something about Aussies that makes them impervious to the type of squeamishness that many others seem to be showing? :-) --jjron (talk) 14:18, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
              • Aussies are strange blokes, it's scientifically proven I think. — raekyT 14:24, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
                • It's just my opinion... nothing more... maybe I was a little rash saying this shouldn't go near the front page... it was kinda meant in a playful way tho, honest! But either way, I don't agree with something like this being so public and in such a "slapdash" way ie chucked on top of a load of wood and set fire... Something as significant as a cremation should be kept private and not in the open... But that's just my opinion... Not saying I'm right or wrong - just that this is my opinion... Gazhiley (talk) 15:18, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
                  • As I said above, I agree that this probably should not go on the main page, as there are plenty who would find the image a little disturbing. I was referring specifically to some of Gaz's other comments (also, sorry, I wasn't meaning to "tell you off" or anything). J Milburn (talk) 18:24, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The background is too distracting. File:Pashupatinath Cremation.jpg and File:Ghat nepal.JPG IMO capture the atmosphere better. The fact it is a ghat is manifested in both pics. The proximity to the temple is seen in the former. Both these elements are critical to the importance of Arya Ghat. A better photo of an open public cremation can be captured on this ghat or on Nigambodh Ghat or on Manikarnika Ghat at Varanasi. --Redtigerxyz Talk 17:00, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Very good composition. The background is not distracting to me. --Elekhh (talk) 15:30, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 09:19, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Southwest Airlines Boeing 737

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Original - A Southwest Airlines Boeing 737 preparing to land.
Reason
This image has a large resolution and is of the entire aircraft. Another FPC of a Southwest Airlines Boeing 737 took place a little under a year ago. That image wasn't promoted since it didn't show the entire aircraft. This image also shows blended winglets.
Articles in which this image appears
Boeing 737 - infobox
FP category for this image
Aeronautics and aviation
Creator
Dylan Ashe
  • Support as nominator --~NerdyScienceDude (✉ • ✐ • ✍) 21:00, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment This is certainly a *properly done* photograph; it has no motion blur that I can see. So I suppose it is “of a high technical standard”. As I’m not *feeling* it (sorry), I’m open to suggestions as to how this “Is among Wikipedia's best work”. It just seems to have a “sterile” affect about it. Greg L (talk) 21:08, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am of the feeling that the monotone pale sky provides a less than optimal backtground. I would like a brighter blue and maybe some bright white clouds in the background, but none of that really takes away from the photograph's main subject. I don't think there is a real good reason to oppose, although it is not a mushroom, which might be a good reason.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:46, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: This isn't a bad picture- however, what I'm feeling right now is that the crop is perhaps a little tight. J Milburn (talk) 23:23, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment No motion blur, but the color's not too sharp, that's noticeable over the red and blue areas, though that might be because it seems by the brightness and angle of shadows that this was taken in noon, and on a clear and probably hot day, so maybe it's glare. and it might've looked nicer with more space left to the sides of the wings' tips. Because of these two things the image is actually a little boring, but it is technically good I guess. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 23:36, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Gut Monk (talk) 23:46, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per TonyTheTiger, bland sky and not a mushroom. — raekyT 00:52, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The aircraft has a colourful livery, but the uninteresting sky ruins the image. It doesn't have that special 'pizzazz'. WackyWace you talkin' to me? 19:19, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral. As I said above, I think the crop's a little tight, and I hear what people are saying about the boring background, but this is a high-quality, high EV image, with pride of place in an article. I don't think this would be a poor addition to our FPs, but, at the same time, I don't think it would be the best addition. I'm open to persuasion either way. J Milburn (talk) 18:27, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Per reasons cited in my comment, above. Greg L (talk) 23:44, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Unsure about this one, all the technicals are there, besides maybe a nice crop, yet I see what people are saying about the bland background as it was my initial thought. I thought I'd go in search and see what has happened to similar images and we have a very similar photo that passed to FP status here: [[14]]. JFitch (talk) 00:52, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 23:04, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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