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Please comment on Talk:United Daughters of the Confederacy

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DYK for Dwight Agnew

On 29 September 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Dwight Agnew, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that during the attack on Pearl Harbor, USS Trever left her captain behind when she put to sea? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Dwight Agnew. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Dwight Agnew), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Triple Crown

I'm pleased to award Chetsford a Triple Crown for their contributions to HPA-23, Government Army (Bohemia and Moravia) and Herman Vandenburg Ames. Keep up the good work. Damien Linnane (talk) 03:49, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Rockland County Times

Thank you for creating an entry for my newspaper. I am the publisher Dylan Skriloff. I am responsible for spreading the reach of the paper to the major outlets you cited in recent years.

I have information about the paper's past, as well as recent history. Are you interested? This is my first time using wikipedia from the inside so if you have any instructions on how to submit information in a manner that is most convenient feel free to relay that to me. I will look it up on my own otherwise. Dskriloff (talk) 15:46, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Dskriloff, that's no problem, I was surprised it didn't already have an entry.

To your question, I'm happy to add anything you'd like. The only thing to keep in mind is that Wikipedia generally can't use WP:PRIMARY sources, so any information would have to be sourced to a mainstream media outlet (independent of the Rockland County Times itself), a scholarly journal, a book from a reputable publisher, or (usually) a .gov or .edu website. Per the Wikipedia WP:CONFLICT policy you should, ideally, post what you'd like updated in the form of a suggestion to Talk:Rockland County Times and let a third-party editor implement the changes. In reality, the chances that people will regularly be checking the Rockland County Times Talk page are pretty low so feel free to just let me know here and I'd be happy to help. Chetsford (talk) 21:51, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

July to September 2018 Milhist article reviewing

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Precious anniversary

A year ago ...

bibliographies
... you were recipient no. 1745 of Precious, a prize of QAI!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:44, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you today for Herman Vandenburg Ames, who was in the early 20th century "instrumental in the development of government archives and the preservation of official records in the United States, two things which are very much in the spirit of this project"!

Please comment on Talk:History of the Communist Party of China

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Improved page that I created and am ready for resubmission

Hello Chetsford - In August I created a draft for a new page about an upcoming theme park in China. According to your comment it was rejected because the current sources didn't demonstrate notability. I have since added additional reliable sources and replaced sources. The majority of the page's sources are from well-established news outlets and the theme park company's official website. The draft is now resubmitted for your approval: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Shanghai_Haichang_Ocean_Park — Preceding unsigned comment added by MICHAELRG (talk • contribs) 06:56, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.14 21 October 2018

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Herman Vandenburg Ames scheduled for TFA

This is to let you know that Herman Vandenburg Ames has been scheduled as WP:TFA for 10 November 2018. Please check that the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/November 10, 2018. Thanks! Ealdgyth - Talk 16:06, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch, Ealdgyth! Chetsford (talk) 04:40, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Slightly late to the party, but congrats on getting the article to FA status!. Blackmane (talk) 12:39, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, Blackmane! Chetsford (talk) 06:43, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Help with FXCM

Hi, Chetsford. I see that you recently helped with COI edit implementation on the page of Move (company). I am facing a similar situation with the page for FXCM and have made several requests for review but have been told to break things down sentence by sentence. I have receive a few conflicting responses through the process and was hoping you would be kind enough to review the current draft article I have placed in my sandbox. I realize that it is not your or anyone's responsibility to review any of my requests, but I am trying on behalf of FXCM to fully comply with the rules of Wikipedia in an attempt to get the article to read more neutral and also clarify the history of the company. Any help you can provide would be appreciated. --Formilds (talk) 00:47, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Formilds - given the number of other editors active on this topic right now, I suspect my involvement might not be conducive to efficiency of discussion. In general, I try to limit my support to COI edit requests to those articles in which no one has taken any interest at all. If I can be of assistance in any other way, though, please don't hesitate to let me know. Chetsford (talk) 08:10, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the kind response. I still have not received a response from the user on the talk page of the article. I am not sure what to do at this point since they have responded on the talk page of the article and did not respond to the last message I left on their own talk page. How long would you suggest I wait or is there anything else I can do? I am going to seek assistance at the Wikiproject Business page but I don't know if that will help. Any advice you have would be appreciated. --Formilds (talk) 23:24, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Formilds - sorry for my delayed reply. I'm a bit busy for the next couple days but I'll check in on it by early next week at the latest. Chetsford (talk) 06:42, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. Let me know if you have any questions or I can clarify any of the proposed content. I appreciate it more than you know. --Formilds (talk) 02:31, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

The following is the last message I received on my talk page from Formilds:

I know that it is a burden to go through my edits requests. I am sorry and wish I knew an easier way for both of us. I also understand there are issues with the company that must be documented to have a neutral article. I am just tasked with making sure everything is done correctly and isn't promotional for the company or written in a way that makes the company seem like the devil. Thanks for your help with these. Hopefully we can get through them all.
— User:Formilds 8:14 pm, 15 October 2018, Monday (1 month, 5 days ago) (UTC−7)

If there were specific questions / concerns / unresolved issues buried somewhere within that post, they've all escaped me.  Spintendo  02:19, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, Spintendo. Despite leaving a message on your talk page, there have been a few unanswered questions within the edit requests on the talk page of the article. I also used a "ping" on several occasions but did not get a response. In fact, there is still an unanswered question on the talk page of FXCM for an edit request. I realize that you want the requests made a specific way, but that has been shown to be impossible. Asking to change one sentence would lead to another sentence needing moved which leads to another sentence being moved, etc. It is like a domino effect. I don't see that edits must be requested in a specific manner as you want, so I am guessing that this is just your preference. What I am asking is that a new draft that was prepared be reviewed and implemented as requested on the talk page. This is similar to other requests that have been reviewed and implemented for other pages. I am not sure if you will review it in this manner since you requested a specific line by line request (which again is impossible to do based on the differences). If not, please let me know and I can hopefully find help from another editor. As stated with my note on your talk page, I am not here to burden anyone and would like to make it as easy as possible to review, but the line by line request simply isn't going to be easy for any of us. Please let me know. --Formilds (talk) 00:51, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Minor request for help with formatting

Hello, Chetsford! You've been willing to assist with edit requests in the past, so I was hoping you might be able to make a quick formatting update to an article on my behalf. I submitted an edit request here to update a section of the Choice Hotels article. User:WhisperToMe reviewed and implemented the proposed content, but at some point the definition of the "Grant18" reference was lost. I've asked the editor to define the reference in the article, and I'm sure they will come back around at some point, but in the meantime, might you be willing to add the following as an inline citation?

• <ref name="Grant18">{{cite news |title=Choice Hotels Signs Deal in Savannah |last1=Grant |first1=Peter |url=https://www.wsj.com/articles/choice-hotels-signs-deal-in-savannah-1519167596 |newspaper=[[The Wall Street Journal]] |date=February 20, 2018 |accessdate=May 28, 2018}}</ref>

I'm just slightly afraid someone reviewing the recent article history might think the source does not exist. You can find the "Grant18" reference used here: Choice_Hotels#Growth_and_expansion. Thanks in advance for any help. Inkian Jason (talk) 19:38, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

No problem - it's fixed now! Chetsford (talk) 20:29, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. On the off chance you're available for another relatively simple request for the same article, I am hoping to replace the existing "Brands" section with this version, which removes the red links, sorts brands by type (instead of alphabetically), provides a bit more detail about the company's size, and reduces empty space by providing illustrations of two of the mentioned brands. Does this seem like a reasonable improvement? To be clear, I'm submitting a series of talk page requests on behalf of Choice Hotels, and I've disclosed appropriately. User:WhisperToMe thoroughly vetted content in the first two requests, and one outstanding request remains, but I'm actually hoping WhisperToMe will return. If you'd prefer I submit a talk page request for the "Brands" request, I can. And of course, if you're not interested in helping at all, that's also fine! Inkian Jason (talk) 20:55, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

 Done Inkian Jason Chetsford (talk) 00:45, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. Inkian Jason (talk) 16:08, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

By the way, I've submitted another request at Talk:Choice_Hotels#"Corporate_affairs", if you're willing to take a peek or give any feedback. Inkian Jason (talk) 17:40, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Inkian Jason I'd be happy to; I'm a bit busy the next couple days but I'll be certain to check in on it by early next week at the latest. Chetsford (talk) 06:42, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. Inkian Jason (talk) 15:39, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Chetsford, I am still looking for an editor to review this request, if you have any space time to take a look, thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 16:33, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

Inkian Jason - sorry I totally forgot about this. Looking at it now. Chetsford (talk) 21:20, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

Hello! I am hoping you might be able to revisit Talk:Choice_Hotels#"Corporate_affairs" soon to remove the ""Recent developments" and (duplicate) "Corporate affairs" sections. Thanks for all your help with this article. Inkian Jason (talk) 16:09, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your continued help with the Choice Hotels article. I'm sorry if any of my requests have been confusing. Inkian Jason (talk) 17:14, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

User:WhisperToMe returned to help with a couple of the last section requests. Just in case you're following along, my only remaining requests are to have "did not meet the Choice Hotels's new standards" changed to "did not meet Choice Hotels' new standards", as well as the stray "</nowiki>" tag in the "Recent history" section removed. Otherwise, thank you for your help with this article. Inkian Jason (talk) 21:46, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

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Ocean of Tears

Hi there; the AFD is now closed, but I was wondering if you did manage to scan that section of Filming Reality: The Independent Documentary Movement in India?, as I was thinking of expanding the article. If you haven't, dont go to any trouble, as theres probably enough online without it, but if you already have, it would be useful to have the whole 3 pages. Curdle (talk) 15:48, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

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Irish Wildman

Hello Chetsford. Can you tell me what I need to publish Irish Wildman. The only opinion in it that would be aligned to me would be the Slieveanorra photo opinion that it is a fallen tree. All the other information is sourced elsewhere and the links are at the bottom of the page. British Bigfoot Reports cover witnesses both in Ireland and the UK and is run by Deborah Hatswell in England. Other information is common knowledge within Bigfoot Research across the world. Dawser75 (talk) 23:06, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

"Can you tell me what I need to publish Irish Wildman." Dawser75 - yes. You would need multiple WP:RS; things like scholarly, peer-reviewed journals (e.g. Journal of Anthropological Research, Journal of Comparative Mythology), mainstream media (e.g. New York Times, The Guardian, etc.), or books published by major publishing houses. What you have is the following: 1 tabloid, 1 Facebook page, and 3 Linda Moulton Howe-esque websites.
Because you'e invoked the name of a WP:BLP (Ronan XXXXX), that statement also needs to be particularly well sourced to reliable sources as we can't risk defaming a real person by connecting them to a disreputable activity like cryptozoology, unless they are absolutely and verifiably involved. You may also want to check at the Fringe Theories Noticeboard for additional advice. Chetsford (talk) 23:35, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

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Quantity and quality

		The Writer's Barnstar
		By the authority vested in me by myself it gives me great pleasure to present you with this barnstar in recognition of the superb job you have done on Death and state funeral of George H. W. Bush, in recognition of it being only the tip of the iceberg of your content creation and in recognition of the enviable quality of your work. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:51, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Gog the Mild - given the scale and breadth of your incredible work, I'm not sure you have much to envy ... but thank you very much for this in any case! Chetsford (talk) 04:35, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

I think, I am sure, that you are underrating the quality of your edits. Be that as it may, thank you for your compliment. Re UN Rear, I will wait to see if it is down checked on a lack of sources basis; if it isn't I will (obviously) be happy to assess it for A class. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:56, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

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DYK for Provisional Army of the United States

On 10 December 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Provisional Army of the United States, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Provisional Army of the United States had only seven officers? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Provisional Army of the United States. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Provisional Army of the United States), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 12:02, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Young Voters for the President

On 11 December 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Young Voters for the President, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Young Voters for the President helped Richard Nixon capture 52 percent of the "under 30" vote during the 1972 United States presidential election? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Young Voters for the President. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Young Voters for the President), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 12:02, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018

Hello Chetsford,

Reviewer of the Year

This year's award for the Reviewer of the Year goes to Onel5969. Around on Wikipedia since 2011, their staggering number of 26,554 reviews over the past twelve months makes them, together with an additional total of 275,285 edits, one of Wikipedia's most prolific users.

Thanks are also extended for their work to JTtheOG (15,059 reviews), Boleyn (12,760 reviews), Cwmhiraeth (9,001 reviews), Semmendinger (8,440 reviews), PRehse (8,092 reviews), Arthistorian1977 (5,306 reviews), Abishe (4,153 reviews), Barkeep49 (4,016 reviews), and Elmidae (3,615 reviews).
Cwmhiraeth, Semmendinger, Barkeep49, and Elmidae have been New Page Reviewers for less than a year — Barkeep49 for only seven months, while Boleyn, with an edit count of 250,000 since she joined Wikipedia in 2008, has been a bastion of New Page Patrol for many years.

See also the list of top 100 reviewers.

Less good news, and an appeal for some help

The backlog is now approaching 5,000, and still rising. There are around 640 holders of the NPR flag, most of whom appear to be inactive. The 10% of the reviewers who do 90% of the work could do with some support especially as some of them are now taking a well deserved break.

Really good news - NPR wins the Community Wishlist Survey 2019

At #1 position, the Community Wishlist poll closed on 3 December with a resounding success for NPP, reminding the WMF and the volunteer communities just how critical NPP is to maintaining a clean encyclopedia and the need for improved tools to do it. A big 'thank you' to everyone who supported the NPP proposals. See the results.

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DYK nomination of Jiggs II

Hello! Your submission of Jiggs II at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 13:17, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Please see new note on your DYK nomination. Yoninah (talk) 19:49, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Pinks and greens

On 19 December 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Pinks and greens, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the United States Army's new "Army greens" uniform was influenced by the "pinks and greens" uniform of the 1920s? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Pinks and greens. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Pinks and greens), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:03, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of 1975 Holton-Arms School Senior Prom

Hello! Your submission of 1975 Holton-Arms School Senior Prom at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! --Animalparty! (talk) 22:20, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Please upload free images to Commons!

Thank you for uploading free images/media to Wikipedia! As you may know, there is another Wikimedia Foundation project called Wikimedia Commons, a central media repository for all free media. In the future, please upload media there instead (see m:Help:Unified login). That way, all of the other language Wikipedias can use them too, as well as our many sister projects. This will also allow our visitors to search for, view and use our media in one central location. If you wish to move previous uploads to Commons, see Wikipedia:Moving images to the Commons (you may view your previous uploads). Please note that non-free content, such as images claimed as fair use, cannot be uploaded to the Wikimedia Commons. Help us spread the word about Commons by informing other users, and please continue uploading! --Animalparty! (talk) 22:37, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, User:Animalparty. To address your templated concerns:

• "As you may know, there is another Wikimedia Foundation project called Wikimedia Commons". That's correct, I do know that.
• "please upload media there instead" While I do, selectively, upload content to the Commons, I don't believe this is a requirement.
• "Help us spread the word about Commons" Unfortunately, I don't have time to do that right now, but I appreciate the invitation and will keep it in mind for the future.

Thank you for your contributions. Best - Chetsford (talk) 17:21, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

The text above is all an automatically generated template. The primary message I wanted to convey was the second: unless otherwise restricted (e.g. {{PD-US-1923-abroad}}), free media uploaded to Commons is much more valuable and versatile. Cheers, and thanks for all you do. --Animalparty! (talk) 20:39, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

File:Bush portrait on 1DEC2018.jpg listed for discussion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Bush portrait on 1DEC2018.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for discussion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. B dash (talk) 11:57, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

• B dash - can you please make sure you've read this (User_talk:B_dash#please_be_more_attentive) note? It appears one of the implicit conditions of your unblocking was that you would limit your activity to constructive edits. I'm not entirely certain these type of slapdash nominations are constructive. Chetsford (talk) 17:29, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Coty, Inc. and Enka İnşaat ve Sanayi A.Ş. drafts

Hi, Chetsford! I've posted edit requests for both Coty, Inc. and Enka İnşaat ve Sanayi A.Ş., hoping to replace the existing articles with improved and updated drafts. I was working with User:Fylbecatulous to update the Coty article, but their profile now says they are deceased. I've tried reaching out to relevant WikiProjects for both articles, but so far no editors have reviewed the requests. Might you happen to be interested in either article? They are very different, both both in pretty bad shape. If you're not interested, of course that's OK, and I hope you're having a good holiday season. Inkian Jason (talk) 17:37, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Inkian Jason No problem - I just did Coty. I may not be able to look at the other until later next week but please ping me if you don't see any progress by Friday as it probably means I've forgot! Chetsford (talk) 07:51, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

Happy New Year! Thanks for revisiting the Coty, Inc. article. I've submitted another request for the History section. Looks like the Enka article remains unchanged, but I don't want to ask too much at once so I'll try posting more WikiProject outreach. Inkian Jason (talk) 16:18, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Chetsford. I think I may have found someone to help with the Enka article, but if you have a moment, I am still looking for someone to review the next proposed History section for the Coty article here: Talk:Coty,_Inc.#History_section:_1930s–1990s. To see this section within the full proposed draft, see User:Inkian Jason/Coty, Inc. Thanks again for your ongoing help. Inkian Jason (talk) 16:33, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!

Best wishes for this holiday season! Thank you for your Wiki contributions in 2018. May 2019 be prosperous and joyful. --K.e.coffman (talk) 00:47, 22 December 2018 (UTC) Noël ~ καλά Χριστούγεννα ~ З Калядамі ~ חנוכה שמח ~ Gott nytt år!

DYK for Day X plot

On 23 December 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Day X plot, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that German police have been investigating reports of their country's soldiers plotting the assassination of several left-leaning politicians? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Day X plot. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Day X plot), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:04, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Jiggs II

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Jiggs II you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Gog the Mild -- Gog the Mild (talk) 18:41, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Czech language dissertation

Hello Chetsford, I was wondering if you could tell me if what kind of thesis this is and if it was accepted? I was able to find out that her bachelor's thesis was in 2014, but I'm not sure if this was a masters' or PhD thesis (or whatever the Czech equivalent would be). This information was requested by editors reviewing the A-class nomination for the article that the thesis is cited in. Thanks in advance. (Edit: Gog the Mild found the document with the review of the thesis—here.) Catrìona (talk) 01:56, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

References

Hey Catrìona - so sorry for my delayed reply. This appears to be a master's degree thesis. Chetsford (talk) 21:38, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, that was very helpful. Catrìona (talk) 07:18, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Jiggs II

The article Jiggs II you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Jiggs II for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Gog the Mild -- Gog the Mild (talk) 22:41, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

2018 Military History Newcomer of the Year

		2018 Military History Newcomer of the Year
		As voted by your peers within the Military history WikiProject, I hereby award you the WikiProject Barnstar for being nominated for the 2018 Military History Newcomer of the Year Award. Congratulations, and thank you for your efforts in 2018. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:27, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Brigadier General Thomas F. Barr Award

On 2 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Brigadier General Thomas F. Barr Award, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the namesake of the Brigadier General Thomas F. Barr Award served for just one day as Judge Advocate General of the United States Army? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Brigadier General Thomas F. Barr Award. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Brigadier General Thomas F. Barr Award), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:03, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Question

Hi there, I was just wondering ... why are you not an administrator and would you be open to persuasion? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:08, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Well thank you, MSGJ! I've never really thought about it before this moment. To be honest, however, I'm not really certain I actually have any need for the toolset. But maybe I can ping you down the road if that changes? Chetsford (talk) 22:04, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

2018 Year in Review

		The WikiChevrons
		For your work on United Nations Command-Rear, Helicopter 66, and Emanuel Moravec you are hereby awarded the WikiChevrons. Congrats! TomStar81 (Talk) 19:30, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

		The Epic Barnstar
		For your work on United Nations Command-Rear, Helicopter 66, and Emanuel Moravec you are hereby awarded The Epic Barnstar. Congrats! TomStar81 (Talk) 19:30, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, TomStar81! Chetsford (talk) 20:42, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Paul Ryan

Howdy, I think you made a boo boo, by accidently closing '2' un-related Rfcs. When you ment to close 'one'. GoodDay (talk) 07:55, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Oops, thanks for the catch, GoodDay - fixed! Chetsford (talk) 07:58, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Congratulations from the Military History Project

		Military history reviewers' award
		On behalf of the Military History Project, I am proud to present the The Milhist reviewing award (1 stripe) for October to December 2018 reviews. MilHistBot (talk) 01:06, 8 January 2019 (UTC) Keep track of upcoming reviews. Just copy and paste {{WPMILHIST Review alerts}} to your user space

DYK for Death and state funeral of George H. W. Bush

On 9 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Death and state funeral of George H. W. Bush, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the U.S. Supreme Court delayed hearing oral arguments in Gamble v. United States due to a national day of mourning proclaimed following the death of George H. W. Bush? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Death and state funeral of George H. W. Bush. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Death and state funeral of George H. W. Bush), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Sunset Parade

On 10 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sunset Parade, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in 2018 the United States Marine Corps' Sunset Parade (pictured) was moved from the Marine Corps War Memorial to the Lincoln Memorial? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sunset Parade. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Sunset Parade), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Crisper drawer

Hi, I did some editing on your article, and suggested a few new hooks. Best, Yoninah (talk) 21:57, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for United States Zouave Cadets

On 11 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article United States Zouave Cadets, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that The New York Times stated that, with one exception, the United States Zouave Cadets (pictured) were "all young men of extraordinary muscular power"? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, United States Zouave Cadets), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Your hook made our minimum 25,000 hits all-time lead hook list! Congratulations! Yoninah (talk) 01:24, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Wow, thank you Yoninah! I don't think that would have happened if you hadn't picked it for the image slot! Chetsford (talk) 09:46, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

File:Bush portrait on 1DEC2018.jpg

I was wondering if you are able to get to the PD explanation for File:Bush portrait on 1DEC2018.jpg, which was discussed here: Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2018 December 29#File:Bush portrait on 1DEC2018.jpg. The image was deleted and is causing a red link at your DYK here: Template:Did you know nominations/Death and state funeral of George H. W. Bush. Cheers! - tucoxn\^talk 16:13, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

This image was removed from your DYK. I hope you get the PD explanation and restore the image. - tucoxn\^talk 14:38, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Sully (dog)

On 13 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sully (dog), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that U.S. President George H. W. Bush's service dog Sully (pictured) slept next to Bush's coffin before his state funeral? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sully (dog). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Sully (dog)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

– Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Jiggs II

On 14 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Jiggs II, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that before becoming a United States Marine Corps mascot, Jiggs II won a blue ribbon at the 1926 Westminster Dog Show? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Jiggs II. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Jiggs II), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

– Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

MEI Conlux

Hey, I really didn't mean to annoy you by working on this, I thought given how things went with Crane & Co. that you were fine with someone working on saving the article. FWIW, I believe that both Crane and MEI are very notable in manufacturing, and would not have tried to save them if not (I don't try to save all that many articles). I hope that there are no hard feelings. Markvs88 (talk) 02:20, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

You're certainly not annoying me, Markvs88. It's great to try to salvage articles. In general, I think we should police our use of company press releases and purchasing receipts to do so, but that's more a discussion for AfD or WP:RSN if you have questions about RS. Chetsford (talk) 02:28, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, glad to hear it. I took the tone of your replies in the discussion to be on the negative side, so I wanted to circle around and make sure. See you around! Markvs88 (talk) 12:43, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

No problem - if I expressed myself imperfectly, I apologize. Thanks for checking! Chetsford (talk) 20:26, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

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DYK for Alexander Macmillan (engineer)

On 23 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Alexander Macmillan (engineer), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Alex Macmillan did not know his 1954 mathematical correction had become a widely used formula known as the "Macmillan Correction" until he read about it while surfing the web in 2004? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Alexander Macmillan (engineer). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Alexander Macmillan (engineer)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 00:02, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

What was the copyright violation?

Hi Chetsford,

Thank you for reviewing my first article. I saw that you declined it based on copyright violation. I am not sure what specifically in the article was in violation?

Can you please tell me what it was specifically so I can remove it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:It_Will_be_Chaos

Yes. I noted that this line - "a comprehensive, yet intimate portrait of lives in transit" - is so close to this line - "part intimate portrait of lives in transit" [3] - as to violate WP:CLOP. Upon noting this, I declined the nomination without further review, ergo, there may be further copyright violation beyond this and I can't say this is a comprehensive list. Chetsford (talk) 02:30, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Quiet Logistics article

Hi Chetsford

Thank you for taking the time to read through and approve my Quiet Logistics article submission.

I understand your concern regarding compensation. However, I'm not being compensated for creating it. Quiet Logistics does not know about the article nor that I created it. (I'm the only person who knows who created it and you and I are most likely the only two people to have ever read it.) 17 years ago I worked with the founders of Quiet while at EXE Technologies.

It's been about 15 years since I did any wikipedia editing, and that was limited to correcting grammar and spelling. I'm still climbing the learning curve so please excuse any formatting issues or my not replying in the proper place. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamreh (talk • contribs) 17:25, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi Jamreh - sorry, the message was a pre-formatted template and sounds a lot harsher than it was intended. I routinely leave that notice on anyone's Talk page who submits a company AfC article for review and hasn't been active much beyond that. In any case, the article looked fine to me (COI or not). Thanks for your explanation and for your contributions! Chetsford (talk) 18:57, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Request on 21:09:47, 1 February 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Emilkpaul

• Emilkpaul (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Pentecostal Church Bethel AOG (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Feels Bad when your first page created gets rejected, however could you please help me get the page published

Emilkpaul (talk) 21:09, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Emilkpaul - there's no reason to feel bad, many (most?) people have their first attempt declined. The major issue at this point is you need WP:SIGCOV in WP:RS and you currently only have a source to the church's own website which is not, therefore, WP:INDEPENDENT. If you can correct this I think you'd be on the right track! Chetsford (talk) 21:11, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

As per your advise added independent source gov website which shows church details — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emilkpaul (talk • contribs)

Hi - please be sure to read this, too - WP:SIGCOV. Chetsford (talk) 21:47, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Request on 03:01:39, 3 February 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Warrenlead

• Warrenlead (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Koala Country BBS (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I have found all the best references that I can find that are available on the internet There are lots of other pages with even less references than this. I am not sure why you are being so hard on me. The BBSs used to be listed in an Australian PC Magazine back in the day but I can't seem to find it anywhere, perhaps it's too old.

Warrenlead (talk) 03:01, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Warrenlead, I apologize, I'm not trying to be hard on you. You're correct there are a lot of articles on WP with bad referencing. Where we can identify them we try to nominate them for deletion. If you'd like a second review, however, just resubmit it and I'll be certain not to review it myself. That way it will get a new set of eyes. Chetsford (talk) 04:02, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

WP:TH#Padma tsho history

Hi, Chetsford. I was quite surprised to see your reply to Ogyan Rgzin on the Teahouse. It seemed to me to have a superficial appearance of welcome, while actually being neither welcoming nor helpful to a new user who is obviously struggling both with Wikipedia and with English. --ColinFine (talk) 19:54, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

ColinFine that certainly wasn't my intention. I'm sorry if I worded it in such a way that it presented that appearance. Chetsford (talk) 20:13, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Deletion review for Aprimo

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Aprimo. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. ( Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2019_February_6#Aprimo ) Djm-leighpark (talk) 10:09, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for International Conference on the Situation in Venezuela

On 7 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article International Conference on the Situation in Venezuela, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that representatives from more than a dozen nations are reported to be attending today's International Conference on the Situation in Venezuela in Montevideo, Uruguay? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/International Conference on the Situation in Venezuela. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, International Conference on the Situation in Venezuela), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Amakuru (talk · contribs) 00:01, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

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Calvary Christian School page submission

I appreciate your review and submission of the article although I have one question: what does it mean you "rmv non encylcopedic content" in which you removed explanatory content?

Dallas S12345 (talk · contribs)

Hi Dallas S12345 - the article was written like a handbook or advertisement for the school. Please see WP:NOTFAQ, WP:NOTADVERTISING, and WP:NPOV. Wikipedia entries are written like encyclopedia articles, not recruitment brochures or new student guides. In addition, all content other than the most rudimentary must be sourced to WP:INDEPENDENT WP:RS. For ideal high school entries, please see Arlington Senior High School or Union City High School. Chetsford (talk) 17:33, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Okay, I understand. Thanks for your help. Dallas G. Spencer (talk) 20:41, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Cassettes (band) submission

Hi Chetsford! You declined an article creation that was recently added citing insufficient reliable resources. The article in question cites reputable press coverage from a variety of national and regional sources as well as involvement with other national recording artists currently on Wikipedia. I believe this is sufficient to justify creation of this page and ask you to reconsider. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atarischad2019 (talk contribs) 22:54, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

• Hi Atarischad2019. I've reconsidered it and I don't believe the band has received WP:SIGCOV. The first two sources, chorus.fm and kickstarter are not WP:RS so I don't consider they exist for purposes of establishing notability. The fifth source, Chris Hardwick's podcast, is probably RS, however, the content simply consists of Hardwick reading a letter from one of the band's members with no original reporting and is, therefore, not WP:INDEPENDENT and doesn't exist for purposes of establishing notability. The other two sources, the radio stations, are RS but just those by themselves (since the other three references do not exist in the mind of WP) don't constitute "significant coverage". Chetsford (talk) 23:02, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your help and feedback! Would the addition of the following reference help the cause at all?: http://piratespress.com/rotw/2019/01/11/cassettes-wild-heart/ (The distinction has previously gone to artists such as The Gaslight Anthem, MxPx, Bush (British band) and many more.) What other types of sources might be helpful in establishing notability? Is the inclusion of notable producers helpful? Would linking to a band member's previous project's existing Wiki page help? Thanks in advance for your guidance in helping to get this article approved! I really appreciate your assistance. - Atarischad2019 —Preceding undated comment added 23:17, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi Atarischad2019 - I checked piratespress.com against the following four-part criteria for reliable sources in which it must meet every item to be reliable and found it meets only one of the four:

1. Is the article signed and attributed using a personal name? - No
2. Does the source which hosts the article publish a physical address by which it could be held legally liable for its publication? Yes
3. Does the source have clear evidence of a gatekeeping process, or editorial control, such as multiple writers or editors and is it obviously not a citizen journalism, social media, or other user-generated content site? - No
4. Is the source, itself, referenced by other sources which are unambiguously reliable (e.g. reputable daily newspapers, books by major publishing houses, indexed scholarly journals, or news programs carried by terrestrial radio or TV stations not otherwise known to be unreliable)? - No

What other types of sources might be helpful in establishing notability? - Any source that met the four-part criteria above would be reliable, AFAIC. To establish notability, it would have to show significant coverage - and not a mere, passing mention - of the band, such as a dedicated article, or a major portion of an article.

Is the inclusion of notable producers helpful? Would linking to a band member's previous project's existing Wiki page help? To meet the WP:GNG no, those would not help, per WP:NOTINHERITED. However, please also see WP:MUSICBIO as there are an additional 12 criteria there under which they could qualify even in the absence of meeting GNG (they would only have to meet one). Chetsford (talk) 23:31, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarification! Is there a certain number of references meeting the 4 points above that would be grounds for approval? I have some others I could include but didn't deem them necessary to the article. Two for example: https://www.punknews.org/article/68633/videos-cassettes-born-in-the-90s and https://dyingscene(dot)com/news/introducing-pop-punk-act-cassettes-ffo-the-80s-pop-punk/ Again, thank you for your help!- Atarischad2019

There is no specific number but, in general, three substantial profile articles of the band, versus album reviews, would often meet the minimum. Or more references of lesser substance. I would not consider punknews.org to meet the standard of WP:SIGCOV since the article is three sentences long. I would not consider dysingscene.com to be a reliable source since its authors write under pseudonyms like "Bizarro Dustin" and "Screeching Bottlerocket", it does not provide a physical address by which it can be held liable for what it publishes and therefore has no pecuniary incentive to be accurate in what it writes about living people, I can find no evidence its reporting has ever itself been referenced by a source which is itself reliable. Just throw in a few of the features and profile stories that have been written about the band in Spin, Paste, Rolling Stone, Billboard, Philadelphia Weekly, the New York Times, Entertainment Weekly, Filter, etc., and you'll be set. If there aren't any, you may have a struggle qualifying under the General Notability Guidelines but you could still qualify under MUSICBIO by providing just one source that proves they won a Grammy Award or had a certified gold record, etc. Chetsford (talk) 00:30, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks again for your quick feedback! Essentially, with the two approved sources in the initial article, this would just need one other feature article that meets the 4 point criteria to be re-submitted and approved? - Atarischad2019

At an absolute minimum, yes, that would often establish notability. Chetsford (talk) 00:43, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Crisper drawer

Hello! Your submission of Crisper drawer at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 17:27, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

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Wpkbwc (talk) 05:52, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

FWIW, I didn't really understand the logic of making a mainspace copy of an article that you don't think is of mainspace quality, on someone who is borderline notable at best - but not worth arguing about. The Drover's Wife (talk) 10:11, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

The Drover's Wife - I didn't think the sources in the draft demonstrated notability, but I thought the individual was notable. Chetsford (talk) 10:15, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

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