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Current requests
[edit]Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).
- Category:Blancpain Endurance Series drivers to Category:GT World Challenge Europe Endurance Cup drivers – C2D: per GT World Challenge Europe Endurance Cup. Fixer88 (talk) 03:18, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Health activists by diseases and disorders to Category:Health activists by disease or disorder – C2A - Anomalous+0 (talk) 01:26, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Metropolitan Routes in Durban to Category:Metropolitan routes in Durban – C2A: Capitalization fix GeographicAccountant (talk) 22:06, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Metropolitan Routes in Port Elizabeth to Category:Metropolitan routes in Port Elizabeth – C2A: Capitalization fix GeographicAccountant (talk) 22:06, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Metropolitan Routes in Pretoria to Category:Metropolitan routes in Pretoria – C2A: Capitalization fix GeographicAccountant (talk) 22:06, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Electronics industry in the People's Republic of China to Category:Electronics industry in China – C2C: Parent category is named Category:Industry in China. BaduFerreira (talk) 20:52, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hong Kong people of Cuban desent to Category:Hong Kong people of Cuban descent – C2A: sp "descent" John of Reading (talk) 16:30, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Norwegian Students' Society to Category:Student societies in Norway – C2F AusLondonder (talk) 14:20, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lutilodix to Category:Fanulena – C2D: sorry, not familiar with the process so tagged twice NotAGenious (talk) 14:11, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Discussion already started in full CfD so it can't be processed speedily. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:22, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Washington city user templates to Category:Washington (state) city user templates – C2B/C2D: per Washington (state). 1857a (talk) 13:55, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Three pillars of the European Union to Category:History of the European Union – C2F AusLondonder (talk) 13:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:North Korean cults of personality to Category:Cults of personality – C2F, by removing the article about North Korean cults of personality from the main category navigation has been explicitly made more difficult. AusLondonder (talk) 13:43, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Plant stem cells to Category:Stem cells – C2F, recently created with single eponymous page. AusLondonder (talk) 13:34, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Astrophysics concepts to Category:Concepts in astrophysics – C2C: sibling and parent are Concepts in FOO, eg Category:Concepts in astronomy Mason (talk) 12:33, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial United States (Russian) to Category:Russian colonization of North America – C2D: per Russian colonization of North America. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:24, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:JL Bourg-en-Bresse players to Category:JL Bourg Basket players – C2D: JL Bourg Basket Dieter Lloyd Wexler 01:44, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Evansville, Indiana navigational boxes to Category:Evansville, Indiana, navigational boxes – C2A: WP:GEOCOMMA. 1857a (talk) 01:28, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Wilmette, Illinois templates to Category:Wilmette, Illinois, templates – C2A: WP:GEOCOMMA. 1857a (talk) 01:27, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Aurora templates to Category:Aurora, Illinois, templates – C2D: per Aurora, Illinois. 1857a (talk) 01:26, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:English expatriates in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth to Category:English expatriates in the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth – C2D: per Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth (en dash). 1857a (talk) 23:02, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Fire trains to Category:Trains – C2F. AusLondonder (talk) 22:24, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:French campaign in Egypt and Syria to Category:French invasion of Egypt and Syria – C2D: per French invasion of Egypt and Syria. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:09, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Channel 5 documentary series to Category:Channel 5 (British TV channel) documentary series – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 15:54, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:History of television in Germany to Category:Television in Germany – C2F. AusLondonder (talk) 15:27, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. Category:Television in Germany is an established, 16 year old category, I don't think it should be replaced by a one article new category. I think this should be a simple Merge rather than rename. Liz Read! Talk! 17:38, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Liz: I'm suggesting a merge to the Television in Germany category under C2F. AusLondonder (talk) 22:27, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- That's what C2F does. The default outcome of a C2F proposal is the merging and deletion of the one-article category. In this case, the category was incorrectly tagged for speedy renaming rather than merging (I have now corrected this). 1857a (talk) 22:38, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. Category:Television in Germany is an established, 16 year old category, I don't think it should be replaced by a one article new category. I think this should be a simple Merge rather than rename. Liz Read! Talk! 17:38, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Central Valley navigational boxes to Category:Central Valley (California) navigational boxes – C2D: per Central Valley (California). 1857a (talk) 00:24, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colorado Springs, Colorado templates to Category:Colorado Springs, Colorado, templates – C2A: WP:GEOCOMMA. 1857a (talk) 00:18, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:San Bernardino navigational boxes to Category:San Bernardino, California, navigational boxes – C2D: per San Bernardino, California. 1857a (talk) 00:10, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:LGBT portal to Category:LGBTQ Portal – C2D: The portal has been renamed to Portal:LGBTQ per the closed Portal_talk:LGBTQ#Requested_move_8_September_2024 RM. Category should follow the eponymous name. Raladic (talk) 01:05, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Procedural objection, given that this was (accidentally) included in Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 September 13#LGBT articles. CC Raladic :) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:13, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- No worries, as long as it gets moved by either the CFD or CFDS :) Raladic (talk) 03:52, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Procedural objection, given that this was (accidentally) included in Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 September 13#LGBT articles. CC Raladic :) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:13, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lifestyles to Category:Alternative lifestyles – C2D; Alternative lifestyle - Anomalous+0 (talk) 00:00, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Anomalous+0: better move this to full discussion because the rename should lead to a lot of purging. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:57, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Canadian premierships to Category:Canadian federal premierships – Distinguish from Category:Canadian provincial premierships. RedBlueGreen93 19:07, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- @RedBlueGreen93: which speedy criterion is applicable here? Marcocapelle (talk) 18:04, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Natural Monuments of Nepal to Category:Natural monuments of Nepal – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:59, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:National Seashores of the United States to Category:National seashores of the United States – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:39, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:National Lakeshores of the United States to Category:National lakeshores of the United States – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:38, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:National Monuments in Guyana to Category:National monuments in Guyana – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:44, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:National Monuments of Colombia to Category:National monuments of Colombia – C2A: See also National monuments of Colombia. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:43, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:National Parks in Indiana to Category:National parks in Indiana – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:43, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:National Scenic Trails of the United States to Category:National scenic trails of the United States – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:39, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Proposed National Parks of Canada to Category:Proposed national parks of Canada – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:36, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:National Parks of Canada to Category:National parks of Canada – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:35, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:National Monuments of the United States to Category:National monuments of the United States – C2A: Caps fixes. For example, National monument (United States) was moved in 2019 to the downcased title and is lowercased in the article throughout when plural and not when referring to an individually named monument. Also see List of national monuments of the United States. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:30, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment — The 2019 renaming referred to above occurred via WP:RM/TR after two previous unsuccessful attempts through the standard RM process. In other words, someone went venue-shopping for a less discerning group of editors. It wasn't uncontroversial then and shouldn't be considered uncontroversial now. I'd bet the same circumstances apply to other pages nominated alongside this one. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 04:34, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- To be clear @RadioKAOS, are you objecting to all national monument title changes alone, or also all other national forest nominations as well? Hey man im josh (talk) 13:12, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hey @RadioKAOS, just following up on this to see if the other sets can be processed, or whether you oppose just the national monuments renamings? Hey man im josh (talk) 13:43, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- @RadioKAOS, I believe myself and the admins who process the requests on this page would REALLY appreciate an answer on this. Additionally, even if we don't consider National monument (United States)'s move to be valid, the 2018 move by (now former) admin DGG of List of national monuments of the United States, which had a discussion preceding it, was a valid move and reason enough to move forward with the category renaming from my POV. Please at the very least clarify whether your objections are to the national monumemnt renamings, or also the national forest ones as well. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:04, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hey @RadioKAOS, just following up on this to see if the other sets can be processed, or whether you oppose just the national monuments renamings? Hey man im josh (talk) 13:43, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- To be clear @RadioKAOS, are you objecting to all national monument title changes alone, or also all other national forest nominations as well? Hey man im josh (talk) 13:12, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment — The 2019 renaming referred to above occurred via WP:RM/TR after two previous unsuccessful attempts through the standard RM process. In other words, someone went venue-shopping for a less discerning group of editors. It wasn't uncontroversial then and shouldn't be considered uncontroversial now. I'd bet the same circumstances apply to other pages nominated alongside this one. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 04:34, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
I guess you responded after I stopped checking regularly for a response, so thank you for the note on my talk page. DGG is deceased, so it's obviously not an option to seek his input. I'm opposed to using obscure corners of project space to bypass discussion on items which should be discussed. Some editors in those project spaces appear only interested in pursuing (a purely superficial notion ) consistency, often without regard for whether there was any consistency involved WRT consensus enroute to that point. Hence, my earlier mention venue-shopping. I have no strong opinion on capitalization variants other than they're often time wasters that stand in the way of moving the project forward. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 04:52, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- That doesn't answer the question @RadioKAOS, we need to know whether you're opposing just the national monuments nominations, or also the national forest nominations. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:10, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- I left them a message after the above reply on their talk page and I've left them another one now. We still need clarity on whether the objection is just to the national monuments renamings, or the other renamings as well, including the national forests. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:48, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- This is a ridiculous failure of communication... They've been pinged for clarity four times and had three messages left on their talk page about this. Personally I think it's reasonable to proceed with all but the national monuments nominations since there's been a lot of effort made to seek out clarity on this and they're not providing it. I don't think it's unreasonable to believe they're talking about the monuments categories solely, but I'm obviously a bit biased as the nominator. Any thoughts @Ymblanter? Hey man im josh (talk) 17:37, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh, I full support this move but I'd say move this to full Cfd, just to be safe. At this point, it is safe to say this person is deliberatly ignoring you. If they have an objection, they can raise it there. If not, then they had numerous oppertunities to do so. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:15, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- This is a ridiculous failure of communication... They've been pinged for clarity four times and had three messages left on their talk page about this. Personally I think it's reasonable to proceed with all but the national monuments nominations since there's been a lot of effort made to seek out clarity on this and they're not providing it. I don't think it's unreasonable to believe they're talking about the monuments categories solely, but I'm obviously a bit biased as the nominator. Any thoughts @Ymblanter? Hey man im josh (talk) 17:37, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- I left them a message after the above reply on their talk page and I've left them another one now. We still need clarity on whether the objection is just to the national monuments renamings, or the other renamings as well, including the national forests. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:48, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:National Monuments designated by Barack Obama to Category:National monuments designated by Barack Obama
- Category:National Monuments in Alabama to Category:National monuments in Alabama
- Category:National Monuments in Alaska to Category:National monuments in Alaska
- Category:National Monuments in Arizona to Category:National monuments in Arizona
- Category:National Monuments in California to Category:National monuments in California
- Category:National Monuments in Colorado to Category:National monuments in Colorado
- Category:National Monuments in Florida to Category:National monuments in Florida
- Category:National Monuments in Georgia (U.S. state) to Category:National monuments in Georgia (U.S. state)
- Category:National Monuments in Hawaii to Category:National monuments in Hawaii
- Category:National Monuments in Idaho to Category:National monuments in Idaho
- Category:National Monuments in Iowa to Category:National monuments in Iowa
- Category:National Monuments in Kentucky to Category:National monuments in Kentucky
- Category:National Monuments in Louisiana to Category:National monuments in Louisiana
- Category:National Monuments in Maine to Category:National monuments in Maine
- Category:National Monuments in Maryland to Category:National monuments in Maryland
- Category:National Monuments in Minnesota to Category:National monuments in Minnesota
- Category:National Monuments in Missouri to Category:National monuments in Missouri
- Category:National Monuments in Montana to Category:National monuments in Montana
- Category:National Monuments in Nebraska to Category:National monuments in Nebraska
- Category:National Monuments in Nevada to Category:National monuments in Nevada
- Category:National Monuments in New Jersey to Category:National monuments in New Jersey
- Category:National Monuments in New Mexico to Category:National monuments in New Mexico
- Category:National Monuments in New York (state) to Category:National monuments in New York (state)
- Category:National Monuments in New York City to Category:National monuments in New York City
- Category:National Monuments in Ohio to Category:National monuments in Ohio
- Category:National Monuments in Oregon to Category:National monuments in Oregon
- Category:National Monuments in South Carolina to Category:National monuments in South Carolina
- Category:National Monuments in South Dakota to Category:National monuments in South Dakota
- Category:National Monuments in Texas to Category:National monuments in Texas
- Category:National Monuments in Utah to Category:National monuments in Utah
- Category:National Monuments in Virginia to Category:National monuments in Virginia
- Category:National Monuments in Washington (state) to Category:National monuments in Washington (state)
- Category:National Monuments in Washington, D.C. to Category:National monuments in Washington, D.C.
- Category:National Monuments in Wyoming to Category:National monuments in Wyoming
- Category:National Monuments in the United States Virgin Islands to Category:National monuments in the United States Virgin Islands
- Category:National Monuments of the United States by state to Category:National monuments of the United States by state
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments to Category:National Park Service national monuments
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments by state to Category:National Park Service national monuments by state
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in Alabama to Category:National Park Service national monuments in Alabama
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in Alaska to Category:National Park Service national monuments in Alaska
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in Arizona to Category:National Park Service national monuments in Arizona
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in California to Category:National Park Service national monuments in California
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in Colorado to Category:National Park Service national monuments in Colorado
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in Florida to Category:National Park Service national monuments in Florida
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in Georgia (U.S. state) to Category:National Park Service national monuments in Georgia (U.S. state)
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in Hawaii to Category:National Park Service national monuments in Hawaii
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in Idaho to Category:National Park Service national monuments in Idaho
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in Iowa to Category:National Park Service national monuments in Iowa
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in Kentucky to Category:National Park Service national monuments in Kentucky
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in Louisiana to Category:National Park Service national monuments in Louisiana
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in Maryland to Category:National Park Service national monuments in Maryland
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in Minnesota to Category:National Park Service national monuments in Minnesota
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in Missouri to Category:National Park Service national monuments in Missouri
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in Montana to Category:National Park Service national monuments in Montana
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in Nebraska to Category:National Park Service national monuments in Nebraska
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in Nevada to Category:National Park Service national monuments in Nevada
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in New Jersey to Category:National Park Service national monuments in New Jersey
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in New Mexico to Category:National Park Service national monuments in New Mexico
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in New York (state) to Category:National Park Service national monuments in New York (state)
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in New York City to Category:National Park Service national monuments in New York City
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in Oregon to Category:National Park Service national monuments in Oregon
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in South Dakota to Category:National Park Service national monuments in South Dakota
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in Texas to Category:National Park Service national monuments in Texas
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in Utah to Category:National Park Service national monuments in Utah
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in Virginia to Category:National Park Service national monuments in Virginia
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in Washington, D.C. to Category:National Park Service national monuments in Washington, D.C.
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in Wyoming to Category:National Park Service national monuments in Wyoming
- Category:National Park Service National Monuments in the United States Virgin Islands to Category:National Park Service national monuments in the United States Virgin Islands
- Category:Bureau of Land Management National Monuments to Category:Bureau of Land Management national monuments
- Category:Bureau of Land Management National Monuments in Nevada to Category:Bureau of Land Management national monuments in Nevada
- Category:Former National Monuments of the United States to Category:Former national monuments of the United States
- Category:United States Forest Service National Monuments to Category:United States Forest Service national monuments
- Category:Former National Forests of Alabama to Category:Former national forests of Alabama – C2A: Capitalization fixes. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:09, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Former National Forests of Arizona to Category:Former national forests of Arizona
- Category:Former National Forests of California to Category:Former national forests of California
- Category:Former National Forests of Colorado to Category:Former national forests of Colorado
- Category:Former National Forests of Georgia (U.S. state) to Category:Former national forests of Georgia (U.S. state)
- Category:Former National Forests of Idaho to Category:Former national forests of Idaho
- Category:Former National Forests of Illinois to Category:Former national forests of Illinois
- Category:Former National Forests of Maryland to Category:Former national forests of Maryland
- Category:Former National Forests of Montana to Category:Former national forests of Montana
- Category:Former National Forests of Nebraska to Category:Former national forests of Nebraska
- Category:Former National Forests of Nevada to Category:Former national forests of Nevada
- Category:Former National Forests of New Jersey to Category:Former national forests of New Jersey
- Category:Former National Forests of New Mexico to Category:Former national forests of New Mexico
- Category:Former National Forests of New York (state) to Category:Former national forests of New York (state)
- Category:Former National Forests of Oregon to Category:Former national forests of Oregon
- Category:Former National Forests of Pennsylvania to Category:Former national forests of Pennsylvania
- Category:Former National Forests of South Carolina to Category:Former national forests of South Carolina
- Category:Former National Forests of South Dakota to Category:Former national forests of South Dakota
- Category:Former National Forests of Utah to Category:Former national forests of Utah
- Category:Former National Forests of Virginia to Category:Former national forests of Virginia
- Category:Former National Forests of Washington (state) to Category:Former national forests of Washington (state)
- Category:Former National Forests of Wyoming to Category:Former national forests of Wyoming
- Category:Former National Forests of the United States to Category:Former national forests of the United States
- Category:Former National Forests that were military bases to Category:Former national forests that were military bases
- Category:National Forests of Alabama to Category:National forests of Alabama – C2A: Capitalization fix. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:04, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:National Forests of Alaska to Category:National forests of Alaska
- Category:National Forests of Arizona to Category:National forests of Arizona
- Category:National Forests of Arkansas to Category:National forests of Arkansas
- Category:National Forests of California to Category:National forests of California
- Category:National Forests of Colorado to Category:National forests of Colorado
- Category:National Forests of Florida to Category:National forests of Florida
- Category:National Forests of Georgia (U.S. state) to Category:National forests of Georgia (U.S. state)
- Category:National Forests of Idaho to Category:National forests of Idaho
- Category:National Forests of Illinois to Category:National forests of Illinois
- Category:National Forests of Indiana to Category:National forests of Indiana
- Category:National Forests of Kentucky to Category:National forests of Kentucky
- Category:National Forests of Louisiana to Category:National forests of Louisiana
- Category:National Forests of Maryland to Category:National forests of Maryland
- Category:National Forests of Michigan to Category:National forests of Michigan
- Category:National Forests of Minnesota to Category:National forests of Minnesota
- Category:National Forests of Mississippi to Category:National forests of Mississippi
- Category:National Forests of Missouri to Category:National forests of Missouri
- Category:National Forests of Montana to Category:National forests of Montana
- Category:National Forests of Nebraska to Category:National forests of Nebraska
- Category:National Forests of Nevada to Category:National forests of Nevada
- Category:National Forests of New Hampshire to Category:National forests of New Hampshire
- Category:National Forests of New Jersey to Category:National forests of New Jersey
- Category:National Forests of New Mexico to Category:National forests of New Mexico
- Category:National Forests of New York (state) to Category:National forests of New York (state)
- Category:National Forests of North Carolina to Category:National forests of North Carolina
- Category:National Forests of Ohio to Category:National forests of Ohio
- Category:National Forests of Oklahoma to Category:National forests of Oklahoma
- Category:National Forests of Oregon to Category:National forests of Oregon
- Category:National Forests of Pennsylvania to Category:National forests of Pennsylvania
- Category:National Forests of Puerto Rico to Category:National forests of Puerto Rico
- Category:National Forests of South Carolina to Category:National forests of South Carolina
- Category:National Forests of South Dakota to Category:National forests of South Dakota
- Category:National Forests of Tennessee to Category:National forests of Tennessee
- Category:National Forests of Texas to Category:National forests of Texas
- Category:National Forests of Utah to Category:National forests of Utah
- Category:National Forests of Vermont to Category:National forests of Vermont
- Category:National Forests of Virginia to Category:National forests of Virginia
- Category:National Forests of Washington (state) to Category:National forests of Washington (state)
- Category:National Forests of West Virginia to Category:National forests of West Virginia
- Category:National Forests of Wisconsin to Category:National forests of Wisconsin
- Category:National Forests of Wyoming to Category:National forests of Wyoming
- Category:National Forests of the Appalachians to Category:National forests of the Appalachians
- Category:National Forests of the Rocky Mountains to Category:National forests of the Rocky Mountains
- Category:National Forests of the U.S. Interior Highlands to Category:National forests of the U.S. Interior Highlands
- Category:National Forests of the United States to Category:National forests of the United States
- Category:National Forests of the United States by state to Category:National forests of the United States by state
- Restoring to the queue--Ymblanter (talk) 20:45, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Burmese magazines to Category:Magazines published in Myanmar – C2C: To match category tree of Category:Magazines by country and Category:Mass media in Myanmar. AusLondonder (talk) 18:57, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Burmese magazines might mean "magazines published in Myanmar" or "Burmese-language magazines" or both. Either way, needs clarification. Her Pegship (?) 19:57, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Pegship: all subcategories of Category:Magazines by language have "-language" in their name so Category:Burmese magazines has to mean "magazines published in Myanmar". Marcocapelle (talk) 18:26, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Pegship: are you (still) opposing this rename? Marcocapelle (talk) 16:49, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Nope, just an observation. Her Pegship (?) 15:03, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Pegship: are you (still) opposing this rename? Marcocapelle (talk) 16:49, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Burmese magazines might mean "magazines published in Myanmar" or "Burmese-language magazines" or both. Either way, needs clarification. Her Pegship (?) 19:57, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
Opposed requests
[edit]- Category:10th-century Somali people to Category:10th-century Somalian people – C2C: parent is Somalian people by century Mason (talk) 02:31, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:11th-century Somali people to Category:11th-century Somalian people Mason (talk) 02:51, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: I think this should go to full CfD. There is also Category:Ethnic Somali people and the country Somalia did not exist yet in the 11th and 12th century. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:37, 12 September 2024 (UTC) Marcocapelle (talk) 18:28, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Honorary Fellows of Bangla Academy to Category:Honorary fellows of Bangla Academy – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:13, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Honorary Fellows of Newnham College, Cambridge to Category:Honorary fellows of Newnham College, Cambridge
- Category:Honorary Fellows of Selwyn College, Cambridge to Category:Honorary fellows of Selwyn College, Cambridge
- Category:Honorary Fellows of St Peter's College, Oxford to Category:Honorary fellows of St Peter's College, Oxford
- Category:Honorary Fellows of Trinity College Dublin to Category:Honorary fellows of Trinity College Dublin
- Oppose: Fellows (and Scholars) are usually capitalised in usage within Trinity College Dublin, for example see https://www.tcd.ie/Secretary/FellowsScholars/fellowship/ - David Malone (talk) 21:21, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Dwmalone: For clarity, are you opposing just the one instance, or the entire set of honorary fellow nominees? Hey man im josh (talk) 17:33, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh: The Trinity College Dublin one, specifically, as I know it is usually capitalised. I suspect it may be true of others too, but I don't know for sure. David Malone (talk) 13:12, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Dwmalone: My understanding has always been that "Fellow" would be capitalized as a title but the pluralized version is not given to individuals, and is treated as MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:14, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Not in TCD anyway - see the link above. The Fellows and the Scholars are both specific groups defined within the statutes of the university, and always seem to be capitalised. The related terms (Fellow, Fellowship, Scholar, Scholarship) are all usually capitalised when they are used to mean these specific roles/groups/... David Malone (talk) 14:08, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Dwmalone: My understanding has always been that "Fellow" would be capitalized as a title but the pluralized version is not given to individuals, and is treated as MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:14, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Honorary Fellows of the Academy of Medical Educators to Category:Honorary fellows of the Academy of Medical Educators
- Category:Honorary Fellows of the African Academy of Sciences to Category:Honorary fellows of the African Academy of Sciences
- Category:Honorary Fellows of the American Institute of Architects to Category:Honorary fellows of the American Institute of Architects
- Category:Honorary Fellows of the British Academy to Category:Honorary fellows of the British Academy
- Category:Honorary Fellows of the British Pharmacological Society to Category:Honorary fellows of the British Pharmacological Society
- Category:Honorary Fellows of the Canadian College of Medical Geneticists to Category:Honorary fellows of the Canadian College of Medical Geneticists
- Category:Honorary Fellows of the Faculty of Public Health to Category:Honorary fellows of the Faculty of Public Health
- Category:Honorary Fellows of the Institute of Physics to Category:Honorary fellows of the Institute of Physics
- Category:Honorary Fellows of the London School of Economics to Category:Honorary fellows of the London School of Economics
- Category:Honorary Fellows of the Royal Academy of Engineering to Category:Honorary fellows of the Royal Academy of Engineering
- Category:Honorary Fellows of the Royal College of General Practitioners to Category:Honorary fellows of the Royal College of General Practitioners
- Category:Honorary Fellows of the Royal College of Nursing to Category:Honorary fellows of the Royal College of Nursing
- Category:Honorary Fellows of the Royal College of Physicians to Category:Honorary fellows of the Royal College of Physicians
- Category:Honorary Fellows of the Royal College of Surgeons to Category:Honorary fellows of the Royal College of Surgeons
- Category:Honorary Fellows of the Royal Microscopical Society to Category:Honorary fellows of the Royal Microscopical Society
- Category:Honorary Fellows of the Royal Society to Category:Honorary fellows of the Royal Society
- Category:Honorary Fellows of the Royal Society of Edinburgh to Category:Honorary fellows of the Royal Society of Edinburgh
- Category:Honorary Fellows of the Royal Society of New Zealand to Category:Honorary fellows of the Royal Society of New Zealand
- Category:PWHL Toronto to Category:Toronto Sceptres – C2D. Wheatzilopochtli (talk) 04:04, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:PWHL Ottawa to Category:Ottawa Charge – C2D. Wheatzilopochtli (talk) 04:03, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:PWHL Montreal to Category:Montreal Victoire – C2D. Wheatzilopochtli (talk) 04:03, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:PWHL Boston to Category:Boston Fleet – C2D. Wheatzilopochtli (talk) 04:03, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:PWHL New York to Category:New York Sirens – C2D. Wheatzilopochtli (talk) 04:02, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- From what I see, the articles were moved three days ago without any discussion. Whereas it is probably a good move, it would be safer to take them to CfD to avoid potentially moving back and forth. Ymblanter (talk) 05:29, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Censorship of LGBT issues to Category:Censorship of LGBTQ issues – C2D: Per Talk:LGBTQ#Requested move 14 August 2024 BlasterOfHouses (talk) 02:37, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose pending Wikipedia:Move_review/Log/2024_September#LGBTQ Bluerasberry (talk) 21:13, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Bluerasberry: do you still object to these moves, now that Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2024 September#LGBTQ (closed) was closed as endorse? Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:15, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose pending Wikipedia:Move_review/Log/2024_September#LGBTQ Bluerasberry (talk) 21:13, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- @HouseBlaster: Yes. Instead of doing a speedy move, can you do a move discussion, and post the rationale there? Perhaps WP:CONSUB. @Dekimasu:, would you like to interpret your original close? Did that cover this too? User_talk:Dekimasu#LGBT_->_LGBTQ_move Bluerasberry (talk) 22:50, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Multiple people have already supported the move of sub articles (whether it be in Talk:LGBTQ community#Requested move 27 August 2024 RM and (myself including) have started moving various articles that are uncontroversial as many have for a long term already explained the Q in addition to the LGBT. The relevant policy that covers the category now following suit is WP:C2D.
- Do you want a collective category move discussion for all categories as a sort of “sampling”? In any case I don’t think there will be any good policy based reason to oppose, other than the personal WP:JDL at this point and we should stop rehashing the same arguments over and over. As for you pinging the closer of the original RM, asking for interpretation, he already did that in his close he noted:
This move may require changes to the article text to conform to the new title, and may imply that templates, categories, etc. should also be moved; please consider contributing to this sort of cleanup.
- so yes, it implied that categories will likely (using the word may) follow suit in line with our existing consistency policies (CONSUB for artices, C2D for categories) for main and sub-topic relationships. Raladic (talk) 23:06, 10 September 2024 (UTC)- Raladic (cc: Ymblanter), a common position I see in the move review discussion was that the RM result should strictly only apply to the article, while further renaming of the very numerous associated pages should be subject to further discussion I'd throw in another oppose for all these LGBT/LGBTQ speedies. --Paul_012 (talk) 06:41, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Paul 012 - This blanket opposition to "all LGBT moves" is not in line with policy.
- The 2 latest requests I made above:
- LGBTQ writers, LGBTQ events
- were carefully submitted in line with their respective eponymous List of LGBTQ writers and List of LGBTQ events articles titles.
- A blanket statement of saying we need to now run all of these category moves, whether they were bulk, or whether they actually were very deliberate and definitely uncontroversial through the bureaucracy of full category move reviews with an WP:SNOW outcome, then that just grinds us to a halt for no reason. Raladic (talk) 16:49, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Those two list articles were only recently moved by you, and not as a result of the RM discussion, which they were not named as part of. C2D does not apply here. --Paul_012 (talk) 17:08, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- C2D is not preempted just because I was the one that moved them, if those BOLD moves were still uncontroversial (which is the case there, as those pages I moved have LGBTQ events and LGBTQ writers explicitly).
- C2D does allow a cat move even if the article it is based on was
or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations
- While my rename was bold, it still is well in line with our article policies, both on CONSUB, but also more specifically for those articles as I just outlined as I checked the content.
- Arguably, I didn't provide a citation for the catmove itself as the unilateral part requests (as I missed that part), so on procedural grounds I can see someone could request one and place it on hold, which I'll be happy to provide.
- But I dispute that C2D doesn't apply outright on this careful and deliberately selected move. Raladic (talk) 21:05, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- There is no reason to move quickly with a mass rename of tens of thousands of articles. I am asking for days, not unreasonable delays. I am not re-arguing this as I never got to participate in the move discussion anyway. This started as a move discussion attended by 20 people for one article, and now it is 100,000 moves of links and prose. I do not object to the moves if consensus is there but I want someone, perhaps the closing admin, to take responsibility for the decision that the one-article move discussion was sufficient for these massive changes. At Wikipedia:Move_review/Log/2024_September the closing admin said,
I did not write here or elsewhere that the result should be used to "radiate everything outwards" without discussion.
. The original move discussion was sufficiently attended for what it was - the move of a single article - but I am arguing that it was not sufficiently attended for mass changes of Wikipedia and what could very well be a change big enough to make the news and be the subject of anthropology studies. I am ready to stand down but I am trying hard to find a venue to have a voice in this. At the move discussion I feel like the subject was whether that one article's move was legitimate, and I agree it was, but I still want to be heard about the next cohort of several thousand moves when they are considered collectively. Bluerasberry (talk) 21:12, 13 September 2024 (UTC)- And that's why, just as I also expressed in the MR and some other editors as well, I posted after the initial RM, the notification on The WikiProject to ensure that the community agreed that in line with our long standing understanding of active members of the project and various sub articles (which I have participated in), that after we found consensus for the main article, likely this would also allow the movement of sub articles. Also as I already noted, this wasn't just the understanding of this single RM that ultimately triggered the move, but the follow up to last years RM, which already pointed everything in that direction and many active editors in the Wikiproject and the space were aware of it and anticipated it, so it didn't come as a surprise to any of us. Prior to the final move to LGBTQ, many sub-articles were repeatedly changed back to "LGBT", even though those pages were always explicitly about LGBTQ, but that was always shot down with the inverse argument of "we want consistency, so we'll keep it LGBT under CONSUB. So those inverse arguments can't have it both ways, now that we do have the main article moved to LGBTQ.
- Now I have not moved tens of thousands of pages, nor am I advocating for it in a rush. I first posted the notice to the Wikiproject after the RM and waited, to ensure my feeling on this wasn't wrong, and you expressed opposition, which was discussed there, as well as in the MR, but beyond that, most active editors of the project appear to have had the same thoughts as me as they've followed it closely over the years. Following the SNOW outcome of the MR and not seeing any clear good policy based reasoning for further opposition of moving some sub-articles, I have now started with some individual, very deliberate uncontroversial moves of articles that have already discussed LGBTQ in the article bodies for a long time, including the sourcing to support it (basically using the litmus test of "if someone did decide that they disagreed with my BOLD move, would it be very likely that policy based my move would be supported by a subsequent formal RM for that sub-article (basically following our policies of WP:BEFOREMOVING).
- Also independent of my own feeling and the notice, some other editors also appear to feel that it has become appropriate and have started moving a handful of articles. Separate to the few articles I have moved myself over the past few days, none of which have had any opposition from people, in fact, quite the opposite as I've gotten a few "thanks" for them, showing explicit support. So now I'm simply following up and nominating those categories to follow those articles that I believe are uncontroversial, based on the topics they cover. I think the move of many articles (and categories and the likes) will take many months, might even be a year or longer, since we want to be deliberate about it and even just the few articles I have moved, have required a lot of post cleanup, such as link corrections in templates, default sorts and updating article leads and prose as appropriate. But I don't think that it is unreasonable to get started with it in line with those topics that arguably are covering LGBTQ topics and doing so slowly as I have started. An article at a time. Raladic (talk) 21:32, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Raladic: Okay, everything seems cool then. Some articles are moved, and that's fine, and more people know, and that is good too. There was a move discussion last year - that's nice, let's build from that. Now that we have the attention of 100+ people and we know that the discussion is about moving all of this per CONSUB, can we move this to full category discussion? I support pinging everyone who has ever shown interest, to confirm we have consensus for this. Bluerasberry (talk) 21:50, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think we so need a collective discussion that says "should every single article be moved" as that question does not have a simple "yes/no" answer, the answer inevitably is "it depends on the context".
- Instead, I think the right path forward, and that which I have taken so far is to raise awareness where we can, and go one by one on specific articles, whether it be with WP:BOLD moves with my own abilities as an editor to interpret that article X can likely uncontroversially be moved and stands a reasonable chance based on the data. Or for cases where there may be more contention, that someone will open an RM for that particular article and then it will be moved.
- Even from a technical standpoint, we can't bulk move articles because of all the post-cleanup that has to be done manually, so I think doing these moves and trusting editors judgement of whether to be bold (and be subject to a retroactive RM if someone does find contention in a move) or do an RM is the right move, individually, per article. Raladic (talk) 22:05, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Note that the now full Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 September 11#LGBT nominations which were opposed at CFDS category discussion for those categories that @HouseBlaster nominated is underway and it also looks like a SNOW case and a very experienced editors has questioned why the speedy move requests were opposed procedurally to begin with.
- So I think I'd take that one full CfD as the litmus test for these category moves and hope that after it, we can proceed with the others as CfDS, such as my above ones that were very deliberate. Raladic (talk) 22:19, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- As it stands now, I will not be willing to move
everythinganything via CFDS. We always have extremely vocal people coming a week after everything has been moved demanding that the categories get moved back because they oppose the move but were not around during the 48h nomination period. And processing these categories is a lot of my time. I believe my (limited) time is best spent on something else than on moving thousands of categories back and forth.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:54, 14 September 2024 (UTC)- Hear hear, @Ymblanter. It's about time to move on, I think. We're currently having the same discussion in multiple places and it's becoming a huge time sink.
- You state yourself, @Bluerasberry, that at least part of your objection is based on being heard rather than policy. In a single post yesterday, you said:
- "I never got to participate in the move discussion"
- "I want someone, perhaps the closing admin, to take responsibility for the decision"
- "I am trying hard to find a venue to have a voice in this"
- "I still want to be heard"
- Your words strongly suggest, at least to me, that this is actually about feeling unheard and your sense of unfairness that this discussion was resolved without you. And I get that—it sucks when you get left out, or you miss out on something, or it seems no one agrees with you. But I do think you have been listened to—multiple times—and your viewpoint has been taken onboard.
- I don't intend my comments as a personal attack, so I apologise if I seem blunt, but your remaining objections no longer seem to be based on valid WP policy. Your policy-based arguments, on the other hand, have all been addressed and discussed in turn, and you've slowly retreated from those arguments. Most people didn't agree with your interpretation of those policies or believe other policies are more relevant, and it seems unlikely anyone is going to change their minds here.
- So, in the end, your remaining argument largely seems to boil down to WP:DONTLIKEIT, and holding the process hostage based on this (again, IMO) risks becoming disruptive. I suspect others are getting tired of the same debate, too.
- @Raladic's suggestion of addressing each page on a case-by-case basis (following WP:CONSUB where there isn't a specific reason to use another initialism) seems to me to be a very pragmatic one. In fact, it gives people the option to discuss such changes on each individual page, which allows even more people to potentially engage in the discussion—which is exactly what you want, anyway. It doesn't rely on people having to engage with a process within a limited timeframe, either.
- It would be great if we could draw a line under this now. I hope we can. Lewisguile (talk) 11:20, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- I think this is what is happening: "Because of the move discussion at Talk:LGBTQ#Requested_move_14_August_2024, we have now established consensus to move all all instances of LGBT to LGBTQ. This includes categories, wikilinks, and instances of the term in prose, and may be a change of the term in 100,000+ instances. Here we apply that consensus to categories."
- @Lewisguile: is this an accurate statement of your reasoning? I am still surprised about the speed and impact of all of this, and want confirmation of what is happening. Is there another consensus statement in support of the move somewhere, or is this the one? Bluerasberry (talk) 20:35, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- No, I wouldn't say that's quite right. It seems to me that, with the consensus to change LGBT-->LGBTQ, there is a case for moving many, but perhaps not all, pages using the former initialism to the latter, and that this can be done via WP:BOLD as per WP:CONSUB. And I believe that, in most cases, this change will be non-controversial based on policy and changing common usage.
- But there will, obviously, be pages that need to stay as LGBT, or some other, related initialism—not least because of proper names of organisations. In those cases, it will mostly be obvious from context (an org called, f'rex, LGBT Organisation would need to retain its name in the relevant article). Where it is debatable, discussion and the requested moves process can help us reach consensus in those specific cases. We therefore don't need a drawn out process to make a blanket decision, because a blanket decision isn't required.
- Links currently pointed to LGBT will also redirect to LGBTQ anyway, so there doesn't need to be a sudden effort to change everything. Most of this will happen in time as people edit and tweak individual articles, and/or when any moves occur. That removes the worry that 100,000s of changes will need to be made immediately. Lewisguile (talk) 12:00, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- As it stands now, I will not be willing to move
- @Raladic: Okay, everything seems cool then. Some articles are moved, and that's fine, and more people know, and that is good too. There was a move discussion last year - that's nice, let's build from that. Now that we have the attention of 100+ people and we know that the discussion is about moving all of this per CONSUB, can we move this to full category discussion? I support pinging everyone who has ever shown interest, to confirm we have consensus for this. Bluerasberry (talk) 21:50, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- There is no reason to move quickly with a mass rename of tens of thousands of articles. I am asking for days, not unreasonable delays. I am not re-arguing this as I never got to participate in the move discussion anyway. This started as a move discussion attended by 20 people for one article, and now it is 100,000 moves of links and prose. I do not object to the moves if consensus is there but I want someone, perhaps the closing admin, to take responsibility for the decision that the one-article move discussion was sufficient for these massive changes. At Wikipedia:Move_review/Log/2024_September the closing admin said,
- Those two list articles were only recently moved by you, and not as a result of the RM discussion, which they were not named as part of. C2D does not apply here. --Paul_012 (talk) 17:08, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Raladic (cc: Ymblanter), a common position I see in the move review discussion was that the RM result should strictly only apply to the article, while further renaming of the very numerous associated pages should be subject to further discussion I'd throw in another oppose for all these LGBT/LGBTQ speedies. --Paul_012 (talk) 06:41, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- @HouseBlaster: Yes. Instead of doing a speedy move, can you do a move discussion, and post the rationale there? Perhaps WP:CONSUB. @Dekimasu:, would you like to interpret your original close? Did that cover this too? User_talk:Dekimasu#LGBT_->_LGBTQ_move Bluerasberry (talk) 22:50, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Children's books with LGBT themes to Category:Children's books with LGBTQ themes
- Category:Chilean LGBT-related films to Category:Chilean LGBTQ-related films
- Category:Chilean LGBT actors to Category:Chilean LGBTQ actors
- Category:Chilean LGBT artists to Category:Chilean LGBTQ artists
- Category:Chilean LGBT composers to Category:Chilean LGBTQ composers
- Category:Chilean LGBT dancers to Category:Chilean LGBTQ dancers
- Category:Chilean LGBT dramatists and playwrights to Category:Chilean LGBTQ dramatists and playwrights
- Category:Chilean LGBT entertainers to Category:Chilean LGBTQ entertainers
- Category:Chilean LGBT footballers to Category:Chilean LGBTQ footballers
- Category:Chilean LGBT journalists to Category:Chilean LGBTQ journalists
- Category:Chilean LGBT models to Category:Chilean LGBTQ models
- Category:Chilean LGBT musicians to Category:Chilean LGBTQ musicians
- Category:Chilean LGBT novelists to Category:Chilean LGBTQ novelists
- Category:Chilean LGBT painters to Category:Chilean LGBTQ painters
- Category:Chilean LGBT people to Category:Chilean LGBTQ people
- Category:Chilean LGBT people by century to Category:Chilean LGBTQ people by century
- Category:Chilean LGBT people by occupation to Category:Chilean LGBTQ people by occupation
- Category:Chilean LGBT photographers to Category:Chilean LGBTQ photographers
- Category:Chilean LGBT poets to Category:Chilean LGBTQ poets
- Category:Chilean LGBT politicians to Category:Chilean LGBTQ politicians
- Category:Chilean LGBT rights activists to Category:Chilean LGBTQ rights activists
- Category:Chilean LGBT screenwriters to Category:Chilean LGBTQ screenwriters
- Category:Chilean LGBT sculptors to Category:Chilean LGBTQ sculptors
- Category:Chilean LGBT singers to Category:Chilean LGBTQ singers
- Category:Chilean LGBT songwriters to Category:Chilean LGBTQ songwriters
- Category:Chilean LGBT writers to Category:Chilean LGBTQ writers
- Category:Chinese LGBT-related films to Category:Chinese LGBTQ-related films
- Category:Chinese LGBT-related television shows to Category:Chinese LGBTQ-related television shows
- Category:Chinese LGBT-related web series to Category:Chinese LGBTQ-related web series
- Category:Chinese LGBT actors to Category:Chinese LGBTQ actors
- Category:Chinese LGBT broadcasters to Category:Chinese LGBTQ broadcasters
- Category:Chinese LGBT businesspeople to Category:Chinese LGBTQ businesspeople
- Category:Chinese LGBT dancers to Category:Chinese LGBTQ dancers
- Category:Chinese LGBT dramatists and playwrights to Category:Chinese LGBTQ dramatists and playwrights
- Category:Chinese LGBT entertainers to Category:Chinese LGBTQ entertainers
- Category:Chinese LGBT lawyers to Category:Chinese LGBTQ lawyers
- Category:Chinese LGBT musicians to Category:Chinese LGBTQ musicians
- Category:Chinese LGBT novelists to Category:Chinese LGBTQ novelists
- Category:Chinese LGBT painters to Category:Chinese LGBTQ painters
- Category:Chinese LGBT people to Category:Chinese LGBTQ people
- Category:Chinese LGBT people by century to Category:Chinese LGBTQ people by century
- Category:Chinese LGBT people by occupation to Category:Chinese LGBTQ people by occupation
- Category:Chinese LGBT poets to Category:Chinese LGBTQ poets
- Category:Chinese LGBT politicians to Category:Chinese LGBTQ politicians
- Category:Chinese LGBT rights activists to Category:Chinese LGBTQ rights activists
- Category:Chinese LGBT screenwriters to Category:Chinese LGBTQ screenwriters
- Category:Chinese LGBT singers to Category:Chinese LGBTQ singers
- Category:Chinese LGBT songwriters to Category:Chinese LGBTQ songwriters
- Category:Chinese LGBT sportspeople to Category:Chinese LGBTQ sportspeople
- Category:Chinese LGBT writers to Category:Chinese LGBTQ writers
- Category:Colombian LGBT-related films to Category:Colombian LGBTQ-related films
- Category:Colombian LGBT-related television shows to Category:Colombian LGBTQ-related television shows
- Category:Colombian LGBT actors to Category:Colombian LGBTQ actors
- Category:Colombian LGBT artists to Category:Colombian LGBTQ artists
- Category:Colombian LGBT entertainers to Category:Colombian LGBTQ entertainers
- Category:Colombian LGBT footballers to Category:Colombian LGBTQ footballers
- Category:Colombian LGBT journalists to Category:Colombian LGBTQ journalists
- Category:Colombian LGBT musicians to Category:Colombian LGBTQ musicians
- Category:Colombian LGBT novelists to Category:Colombian LGBTQ novelists
- Category:Colombian LGBT painters to Category:Colombian LGBTQ painters
- Category:Colombian LGBT people to Category:Colombian LGBTQ people
- Category:Colombian LGBT people by century to Category:Colombian LGBTQ people by century
- Category:Colombian LGBT people by occupation to Category:Colombian LGBTQ people by occupation
- Category:Colombian LGBT poets to Category:Colombian LGBTQ poets
- Category:Colombian LGBT politicians to Category:Colombian LGBTQ politicians
- Category:Colombian LGBT rights activists to Category:Colombian LGBTQ rights activists
- Category:Colombian LGBT screenwriters to Category:Colombian LGBTQ screenwriters
- Category:Colombian LGBT sculptors to Category:Colombian LGBTQ sculptors
- Category:Colombian LGBT singers to Category:Colombian LGBTQ singers
- Category:Colombian LGBT songwriters to Category:Colombian LGBTQ songwriters
- Category:Colombian LGBT sportspeople to Category:Colombian LGBTQ sportspeople
- Category:Colombian LGBT writers to Category:Colombian LGBTQ writers
- Category:Costa Rican LGBT entertainers to Category:Costa Rican LGBTQ entertainers
- Category:Costa Rican LGBT footballers to Category:Costa Rican LGBTQ footballers
- Category:Costa Rican LGBT journalists to Category:Costa Rican LGBTQ journalists
- Category:Costa Rican LGBT musicians to Category:Costa Rican LGBTQ musicians
- Category:Costa Rican LGBT people to Category:Costa Rican LGBTQ people
- Category:Costa Rican LGBT people by century to Category:Costa Rican LGBTQ people by century
- Category:Costa Rican LGBT people by occupation to Category:Costa Rican LGBTQ people by occupation
- Category:Costa Rican LGBT politicians to Category:Costa Rican LGBTQ politicians
- Category:Costa Rican LGBT rights activists to Category:Costa Rican LGBTQ rights activists
- Category:Costa Rican LGBT singers to Category:Costa Rican LGBTQ singers
- Category:Costa Rican LGBT sportspeople to Category:Costa Rican LGBTQ sportspeople
- Category:Costa Rican LGBT writers to Category:Costa Rican LGBTQ writers
- Category:Cover images of books with LGBT themes to Category:Cover images of books with LGBTQ themes
- Category:Croatian LGBT actors to Category:Croatian LGBTQ actors
- Category:Croatian LGBT artists to Category:Croatian LGBTQ artists
- Category:Croatian LGBT broadcasters to Category:Croatian LGBTQ broadcasters
- Category:Croatian LGBT entertainers to Category:Croatian LGBTQ entertainers
- Category:Croatian LGBT journalists to Category:Croatian LGBTQ journalists
- Category:Croatian LGBT musicians to Category:Croatian LGBTQ musicians
- Category:Croatian LGBT people to Category:Croatian LGBTQ people
- Category:Croatian LGBT people by century to Category:Croatian LGBTQ people by century
- Category:Croatian LGBT people by occupation to Category:Croatian LGBTQ people by occupation
- Category:Croatian LGBT politicians to Category:Croatian LGBTQ politicians
- Category:Croatian LGBT rights activists to Category:Croatian LGBTQ rights activists
- Category:Croatian LGBT singers to Category:Croatian LGBTQ singers
- Category:Croatian LGBT women to Category:Croatian LGBTQ women
- Category:Croatian LGBT writers to Category:Croatian LGBTQ writers
- Category:Cuban LGBT-related films to Category:Cuban LGBTQ-related films
- Category:Cuban LGBT actors to Category:Cuban LGBTQ actors
- Category:Cuban LGBT artists to Category:Cuban LGBTQ artists
- Category:Cuban LGBT broadcasters to Category:Cuban LGBTQ broadcasters
- Category:Cuban LGBT dancers to Category:Cuban LGBTQ dancers
- Category:Cuban LGBT dramatists and playwrights to Category:Cuban LGBTQ dramatists and playwrights
- Category:Cuban LGBT entertainers to Category:Cuban LGBTQ entertainers
- Category:Cuban LGBT novelists to Category:Cuban LGBTQ novelists
- Category:Cuban LGBT painters to Category:Cuban LGBTQ painters
- Category:Cuban LGBT people to Category:Cuban LGBTQ people
- Category:Cuban LGBT people by century to Category:Cuban LGBTQ people by century
- Category:Cuban LGBT people by occupation to Category:Cuban LGBTQ people by occupation
- Category:Cuban LGBT photographers to Category:Cuban LGBTQ photographers
- Category:Cuban LGBT poets to Category:Cuban LGBTQ poets
- Category:Cuban LGBT politicians to Category:Cuban LGBTQ politicians
- Category:Cuban LGBT rights activists to Category:Cuban LGBTQ rights activists
- Category:Cuban LGBT screenwriters to Category:Cuban LGBTQ screenwriters
- Category:Cuban LGBT singers to Category:Cuban LGBTQ singers
- Category:Cuban LGBT writers to Category:Cuban LGBTQ writers
- Category:Cypriot LGBT people to Category:Cypriot LGBTQ people
- Category:Czech LGBT-related films to Category:Czech LGBTQ-related films
- Category:Czech LGBT-related television shows to Category:Czech LGBTQ-related television shows
- Category:Czech LGBT artists to Category:Czech LGBTQ artists
- Category:Czech LGBT businesspeople to Category:Czech LGBTQ businesspeople
- Category:Czech LGBT composers to Category:Czech LGBTQ composers
- Category:Czech LGBT dancers to Category:Czech LGBTQ dancers
- Category:Czech LGBT dramatists and playwrights to Category:Czech LGBTQ dramatists and playwrights
- Category:Czech LGBT entertainers to Category:Czech LGBTQ entertainers
- Category:Czech LGBT footballers to Category:Czech LGBTQ footballers
- Category:Czech LGBT musicians to Category:Czech LGBTQ musicians
- Category:Czech LGBT novelists to Category:Czech LGBTQ novelists
- Category:Czech LGBT people to Category:Czech LGBTQ people
- Category:Czech LGBT people by century to Category:Czech LGBTQ people by century
- Category:Czech LGBT people by occupation to Category:Czech LGBTQ people by occupation
- Category:Czech LGBT photographers to Category:Czech LGBTQ photographers
- Category:Czech LGBT poets to Category:Czech LGBTQ poets
- Category:Czech LGBT politicians to Category:Czech LGBTQ politicians
- Category:Czech LGBT rights activists to Category:Czech LGBTQ rights activists
- Category:Czech LGBT screenwriters to Category:Czech LGBTQ screenwriters
- Category:Czech LGBT singers to Category:Czech LGBTQ singers
- Category:Czech LGBT sportspeople to Category:Czech LGBTQ sportspeople
- Category:Czech LGBT writers to Category:Czech LGBTQ writers
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- Again, oppose pending Wikipedia:Move_review/Log/2024_September#LGBTQ Bluerasberry (talk) 21:13, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:14th-century German LGBT people to Category:14th-century German LGBTQ people – C2D: Per Talk:LGBTQ#Requested move 14 August 2024 (this should have more robust error checking) BlasterOfHouses (talk) 04:36, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Request: Please leave redirects for the FOOian LGBT people related categories. I'll do my best to make sure that the rename is seamless for Template:LGBT people by nationality and century category header, but leaving redirects will be extremely helpful to ensure that everything behaves as expected. Mason (talk) 12:14, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Again, oppose pending Wikipedia:Move_review/Log/2024_September#LGBTQ Bluerasberry (talk) 21:13, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Category:British LGBT rights activists to Category:British LGBTQ rights activists
- Category:British LGBT rugby union players to Category:British LGBTQ rugby union players
- Category:British LGBT scientists to Category:British LGBTQ scientists
- Category:British LGBT screenwriters to Category:British LGBTQ screenwriters
- Category:British LGBT sculptors to Category:British LGBTQ sculptors
- Category:British LGBT singers to Category:British LGBTQ singers
- Category:British LGBT songwriters to Category:British LGBTQ songwriters
- Category:British LGBT sportsmen to Category:British LGBTQ sportsmen
- Category:British LGBT sportspeople to Category:British LGBTQ sportspeople
- Category:British LGBT women to Category:British LGBTQ women
- Category:British LGBT writers to Category:British LGBTQ writers
- Category:British teen LGBT-related films to Category:British teen LGBTQ-related films
- Category:Bruneian LGBT people to Category:Bruneian LGBTQ people
- Category:Bruneian LGBT people by century to Category:Bruneian LGBTQ people by century
- Category:Bulgarian LGBT-related films to Category:Bulgarian LGBTQ-related films
- Category:Bulgarian LGBT actors to Category:Bulgarian LGBTQ actors
- Category:Bulgarian LGBT comedians to Category:Bulgarian LGBTQ comedians
- Category:Bulgarian LGBT entertainers to Category:Bulgarian LGBTQ entertainers
- Category:Bulgarian LGBT musicians to Category:Bulgarian LGBTQ musicians
- Category:Bulgarian LGBT people to Category:Bulgarian LGBTQ people
- Category:Bulgarian LGBT people by century to Category:Bulgarian LGBTQ people by century
- Category:Bulgarian LGBT people by occupation to Category:Bulgarian LGBTQ people by occupation
- Category:Bulgarian LGBT poets to Category:Bulgarian LGBTQ poets
- Category:Bulgarian LGBT politicians to Category:Bulgarian LGBTQ politicians
- Category:Bulgarian LGBT rights activists to Category:Bulgarian LGBTQ rights activists
- Category:Bulgarian LGBT songwriters to Category:Bulgarian LGBTQ songwriters
- Category:Bulgarian LGBT sportspeople to Category:Bulgarian LGBTQ sportspeople
- Category:Bulgarian LGBT writers to Category:Bulgarian LGBTQ writers
- Category:Burmese LGBT-related films to Category:Burmese LGBTQ-related films
- Category:Burmese LGBT actors to Category:Burmese LGBTQ actors
- Category:Burmese LGBT artists to Category:Burmese LGBTQ artists
- Category:Burmese LGBT businesspeople to Category:Burmese LGBTQ businesspeople
- Category:Burmese LGBT entertainers to Category:Burmese LGBTQ entertainers
- Category:Burmese LGBT people to Category:Burmese LGBTQ people
- Category:Burmese LGBT people by century to Category:Burmese LGBTQ people by century
- Category:Burmese LGBT people by occupation to Category:Burmese LGBTQ people by occupation
- Category:Burmese LGBT politicians to Category:Burmese LGBTQ politicians
- Category:Burmese LGBT singers to Category:Burmese LGBTQ singers
- Category:Cambodian LGBT-related films to Category:Cambodian LGBTQ-related films
- Category:Cameroonian LGBT people to Category:Cameroonian LGBTQ people
- Category:Cameroonian LGBT rights activists to Category:Cameroonian LGBTQ rights activists
- Category:Canadian LGBT-related comedy television series to Category:Canadian LGBTQ-related comedy television series
- Category:Canadian LGBT-related documentary films to Category:Canadian LGBTQ-related documentary films
- Category:Canadian LGBT-related drama television series to Category:Canadian LGBTQ-related drama television series
- Category:Canadian LGBT-related films to Category:Canadian LGBTQ-related films
- Category:Canadian LGBT-related plays to Category:Canadian LGBTQ-related plays
- Category:Canadian LGBT-related reality television series to Category:Canadian LGBTQ-related reality television series
- Category:Canadian LGBT-related short films to Category:Canadian LGBTQ-related short films
- Category:Canadian LGBT-related sitcoms to Category:Canadian LGBTQ-related sitcoms
- Category:Canadian LGBT-related television episodes to Category:Canadian LGBTQ-related television episodes
- Category:Canadian LGBT-related television films to Category:Canadian LGBTQ-related television films
- Category:Canadian LGBT-related television series by decade to Category:Canadian LGBTQ-related television series by decade
- Category:Canadian LGBT-related television shows to Category:Canadian LGBTQ-related television shows
- Category:Canadian LGBT-related television specials to Category:Canadian LGBTQ-related television specials
- Category:Canadian LGBT-related web series to Category:Canadian LGBTQ-related web series
- Category:Canadian LGBT academics to Category:Canadian LGBTQ academics
- Category:Canadian LGBT actors to Category:Canadian LGBTQ actors
- Category:Canadian LGBT actresses to Category:Canadian LGBTQ actresses
- Category:Canadian LGBT artists to Category:Canadian LGBTQ artists
- Category:Canadian LGBT broadcasters to Category:Canadian LGBTQ broadcasters
- Category:Canadian LGBT businesspeople to Category:Canadian LGBTQ businesspeople
- Category:Canadian LGBT composers to Category:Canadian LGBTQ composers
- Category:Canadian LGBT dancers to Category:Canadian LGBTQ dancers
- Category:Canadian LGBT dramatists and playwrights to Category:Canadian LGBTQ dramatists and playwrights
- Category:Canadian LGBT entertainers to Category:Canadian LGBTQ entertainers
- Category:Canadian LGBT film directors to Category:Canadian LGBTQ film directors
- Category:Canadian LGBT journalists to Category:Canadian LGBTQ journalists
- Category:Canadian LGBT lawyers to Category:Canadian LGBTQ lawyers
- Category:Canadian LGBT male actors to Category:Canadian LGBTQ male actors
- Category:Canadian LGBT men to Category:Canadian LGBTQ men
- Category:Canadian LGBT models to Category:Canadian LGBTQ models
- Category:Canadian LGBT musicians to Category:Canadian LGBTQ musicians
- Category:Canadian LGBT novelists to Category:Canadian LGBTQ novelists
- Category:Canadian LGBT novels to Category:Canadian LGBTQ novels
- Category:Canadian LGBT painters to Category:Canadian LGBTQ painters
- Category:Canadian LGBT people to Category:Canadian LGBTQ people
- Category:Canadian LGBT people by century to Category:Canadian LGBTQ people by century
- Category:Canadian LGBT people by occupation to Category:Canadian LGBTQ people by occupation
- Category:Canadian LGBT people in municipal politics to Category:Canadian LGBTQ people in municipal politics
- Category:Canadian LGBT people in provincial and territorial legislatures to Category:Canadian LGBTQ people in provincial and territorial legislatures
- Category:Canadian LGBT photographers to Category:Canadian LGBTQ photographers
- Category:Canadian LGBT poets to Category:Canadian LGBTQ poets
- Category:Canadian LGBT politicians to Category:Canadian LGBTQ politicians
- Category:Canadian LGBT rights activists to Category:Canadian LGBTQ rights activists
- Category:Canadian LGBT rugby union players to Category:Canadian LGBTQ rugby union players
- Category:Canadian LGBT scientists to Category:Canadian LGBTQ scientists
- Category:Canadian LGBT screenwriters to Category:Canadian LGBTQ screenwriters
- Category:Canadian LGBT sculptors to Category:Canadian LGBTQ sculptors
- Category:Canadian LGBT senators to Category:Canadian LGBTQ senators
- Category:Canadian LGBT singers to Category:Canadian LGBTQ singers
- Category:Canadian LGBT songwriters to Category:Canadian LGBTQ songwriters
- Category:Canadian LGBT sportspeople to Category:Canadian LGBTQ sportspeople
- Category:Canadian LGBT women to Category:Canadian LGBTQ women
- Category:Canadian LGBT writers to Category:Canadian LGBTQ writers
- Category:Canadian teen LGBT-related films to Category:Canadian teen LGBTQ-related films
- Category:Canadian victims of anti-LGBT hate crimes to Category:Canadian victims of anti-LGBTQ hate crimes
- Category:Cape Verdean LGBT-related films to Category:Cape Verdean LGBTQ-related films
- Category:Cape Verdean LGBT people to Category:Cape Verdean LGBTQ people
- Category:Cape Verdean LGBT rights activists to Category:Cape Verdean LGBTQ rights activists
- Again, oppose pending Wikipedia:Move_review/Log/2024_September#LGBTQ Bluerasberry (talk) 21:13, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Restored these, they are obviously opposed as well. A bunch have already been processed.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:30, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- The RM was endorced, restoring to the queue. Some have already been processed, but the backlinks still need to be checked.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:43, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Now the move has been opposed again. I am not going to process via speedy any LGBT categories for at least a few months, this is a massive waste of my time. Thank you for understanding.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:48, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Tyla (South African singer) to Category:Tyla – The main article Tyla (South African singer) was moved to Tyla. dxneo (talk) 03:02, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy because "Tyla" is an ambiguous term. 1857a (talk) 04:51, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- And so is Chris Brown, Rihanna and so on. The rationale was not to swap per PRIMARY but to move as there's currently nothing at Category:Tyla. Does opposing mean Category:Tyla will never be created because there's a lot of Tylas? dxneo (talk) 18:14, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- This opposition is only to the speedy renaming of this category (C2D does not generally apply when removing a disambiguator from an ambiguous term). The category may be renamed to Category:Tyla via full discussion, if there is consensus. 1857a (talk) 01:04, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- understandable Thank you. dxneo (talk) 01:59, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- 1857a, would it have been okay if I moved it myself before coming here? dxneo (talk) 14:07, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- understandable Thank you. dxneo (talk) 01:59, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- This opposition is only to the speedy renaming of this category (C2D does not generally apply when removing a disambiguator from an ambiguous term). The category may be renamed to Category:Tyla via full discussion, if there is consensus. 1857a (talk) 01:04, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- And so is Chris Brown, Rihanna and so on. The rationale was not to swap per PRIMARY but to move as there's currently nothing at Category:Tyla. Does opposing mean Category:Tyla will never be created because there's a lot of Tylas? dxneo (talk) 18:14, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy because "Tyla" is an ambiguous term. 1857a (talk) 04:51, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion
[edit]Moved to full discussion
[edit]- Category:LGBT events to Category:LGBTQ events – C2D: Consistent with parent LGBTQ article after recent Talk:LGBTQ#Requested_move_14_August_2024 discussion per WP:CONSUB (which was further endorsed in MR). These event categories are not strict LGBT, but contain LGBTQ related events Raladic (talk) 21:51, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:LGBT festivals to Category:LGBTQ festivals
- Category:Lists of LGBT-related events to Category:Lists of LGBTQ-related events
- Category:LGBT-related observances to Category:LGBTQ-related observances
- Category:LGBT conferences to Category:LGBTQ conferences
- Category:LGBT events by country to Category:LGBTQ events by country
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:08, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:LGBT studies academics to Category:LGBTQ studies academics – C2D: The field itself and its parent category is Queer studies or LGBTQ studies, so this subcat should match it. Raladic (talk) 18:44, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- i am pretty sure someone will oppose the move, so it would be better to go for a full discussion. Ymblanter (talk) 19:47, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Moved down to on hold pending the close of the below linked Wikipedia:Move_review/Log/2024_September#LGBTQ of the other related LGBT -> LGBTQ moves. Raladic (talk) 18:06, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Incidentally, the MR just concluded as predicted closed as endorsed.
- Pinging @Ymblanter - I suppose we can move this and all the below LGBT -> LGBTQ moves back into active to process now? Raladic (talk) 23:15, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Bluerasberry still needs to withdraw his objection – CFDS is like WP:PROD in that it has to be unopposed and anyone can object for any reason (or no reason) at any time. I have asked him to reconsider below. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:28, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Moved down to on hold pending the close of the below linked Wikipedia:Move_review/Log/2024_September#LGBTQ of the other related LGBT -> LGBTQ moves. Raladic (talk) 18:06, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- i am pretty sure someone will oppose the move, so it would be better to go for a full discussion. Ymblanter (talk) 19:47, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:LGBT writers to Category:LGBTQ writers – C2D: Consistent with parent LGBTQ article and List of LGBTQ writers after recent Talk:LGBTQ#Requested_move_14_August_2024 discussion per WP:CONSUB Raladic (talk) 02:51, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Both are now at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 September 17#LGBT categories, round 3. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:44, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Rodeo in the arts to Category:Rodeo culture – C2C: to match sister categories and expand its scope. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:40, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Omnis Scientia: if renamed I would rather propose Category:Rodeo in culture but upmerging is perhaps an even better idea. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:01, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'll move to full Cfd then. Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:07, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Omnis Scientia: if renamed I would rather propose Category:Rodeo in culture but upmerging is perhaps an even better idea. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:01, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
Current discussions
[edit]September 20
[edit]NEW NOMINATIONS
[edit]Category:Video games with alternative versions
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This category is oriented towards a non-defining and trivial trait. The "alternate versions" of the games in question consist of ports with different content or features mostly due to technical restrictions, HD/remastered versions, deluxe/collectors editions, and versions with both intentionally alternate titles and content. As you can see, the criteria for this category is not consistent; there's no way it can be defining, nor a category entitled "Video games with alternate titles in PAL regions". QuantumFoam66 (talk) 01:40, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Video games in Hong Kong
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Video games in Hong Kong to Category:Video gaming in Hong Kong
- Nominator's rationale: Category:Video gaming in Hong Kong already exists, however this is the only category in the tree of Category:Video gaming by country that hasn't been renamed to match up with the names of other categories.
QuantumFoam66 (talk) 00:47, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Asian-American drama films
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Asian-American drama films to Category:Asian American drama films
- Nominator's rationale: Hyphenating heritage such as "Asian-American" or "African-American" doesn't seem to be the standard anymore. AP made this style change in 2019, following other style guides that have done the same. Additionally, this would bring the category in line with the related Wikipedia page titles (eg Asian Americans and Asian American activism). Probably a discussion of removing the hyphen from many related categories to be had, but I'm new to CfD and will try this one first. Thanks. Pingnova (talk) 00:36, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
September 19
[edit]Category:Redirects from external links
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: {{r from external link}} has been deleted, so I believe this is eligible for speedy deletion under WP:C4, but 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:D69:7CF2:4B8A:3610 contested this because Liz recently tagged the category with {{emptycat}}. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:33, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy is only intended for uncontroversial deletions, and the recent tagging demonstrates that deletion is not uncontroversial. There was limited discussion of these cases previously with some feeling that pages tagged with Template:Emptycat should never be eligible for C4, and others being OK if the template was a holdover from a past time that was no longer applicable. Regardless, given the timing here C4 should not be used.
- Anyway, XFD is flatly better to speedy deletion in every aspect except volume management, and the clearer consensus created by discussion is often of value going forward. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:BCD7:AA73:70F1:F07C (talk) 23:07, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - I created the now-deleted rcat template and companion category several years ago because consensus at the time was that we should maintain malformed incoming link targets. This largely had to do with a bug in Reddit markup which caused some links with trailing punctuation to omit a closing parenthesis in the actual hyperlink, which meant that links from Reddit to Wikipedia pages with parenthetical disambiguators were frequently broken. That bug seems to have long since been corrected. Consensus now seems to be that we should let any remaining malformed incoming links rot instead, and so such redirects will generally always be deleted (unless some other rcat applies), and this category will always be empty. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 21:48, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic literature
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic literature to Category:Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
- Propose merging Category:Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic comics to Category:Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
- Propose merging Category:Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic novels to Category:Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
- Propose merging Category:Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic video games to Category:Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
- Propose merging Category:Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic characters to Category:Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
- Nominator's rationale: An unnecessary group of subcategories made by the same blocked disruptive user. There are not enough actual pages to merit the existence of subcategories, and they can easily fit within the parent category. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:35, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Note: They should all be dual-merged into the matching "Star Wars X" or "X based on Star Wars" parent categories as well if necessary. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 22:24, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Years of the 20th century in North Vietnam
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Years of the 20th century in South Vietnam to Category:Years in South Vietnam
- Propose renaming Category:Years of the 20th century in North Vietnam to Category:Years in North Vietnam
- Nominator's rationale: merge, duplicate scope in South Vietnam, all years were in the 20th century. Rename North Vietnam for consistency. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:54, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Closed military installations
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Closed military installations to Category:Former military installations
- Propose renaming Category:Closed military installations of Canada to Category:Former military installations of Canada
- Propose renaming Category:Canadian Forces bases in Canada (closed) to Category:Former Canadian Forces bases in Canada
- Propose renaming Category:Closed military installations of the United States to Category:Former military installations of the United States
- Propose renaming Category:Closed military facilities of the United States in the United States to Category:Former military installations of the United States in the United States
- Propose merging Category:Closed military facilities of the United States in insular areas of the United States to Category:Former military installations of the United States in the United States (unnecessary layer with only PR subcat)
- Propose renaming Category:Closed military facilities in Puerto Rico to Category:Former military installations in Puerto Rico
- Propose renaming Category:Closed installations of the United States Army to Category:Former installations of the United States Army
- Propose renaming Category:Closed training facilities of the United States Army to Category:Former training facilities of the United States Army
- Propose renaming Category:Closed medical facilities of the United States Army to Category:Former medical facilities of the United States Army
- Propose renaming Category:Closed medical research facilities of the United States Army to Category:Former medical research facilities of the United States Army
- Propose renaming Category:Closed research facilities of the United States Army to Category:Former research facilities of the United States Army
- Nominator's rationale: I can see no useful distinction between "closed" and "former". – Fayenatic London 07:56, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Implementation note: Turkish and Vietnamese Wikipedias also have two layers, but they were probably copied from here and should be merged likewise, along with Wikidata items https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q25233618, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q8383568. Please ping me when closing this. – Fayenatic London 07:56, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge Category:Closed military installations to Category:Former military installations or reverse merge, I can't tell the difference either. Renaming the other categories obviously depends on the merge direction. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:20, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge, but all of Category:Former military installations into Category:Closed military installations. "Former" could mistakenly be taken to mean that the article is about the site of the previous military installation (possibly including after closure and current use), not about the notable period of military activity at the site which has ended. Thus I prefer "closed" to "former." After this discussion closes, there should only be one category, not two, definitely. Buckshot06 (talk) 20:57, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag all of the "former" categories. Discussion on direction of renaming/merging would be appreciated :)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:43, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Former military installations to Category:Closed military installations
- Propose renaming Category:Former United States military installations in Germany to Category:Closed United States military installations in Germany
- Propose renaming Category:Former military installations of Australia to Category:Closed military installations of Australia
- Propose renaming Category:Former Royal Australian Air Force bases to Category:Closed Royal Australian Air Force bases
- Propose renaming Category:Former military installations in New South Wales to Category:Closed military installations in New South Wales
- Propose renaming Category:Former military installations in Queensland to Category:Closed military installations in Queensland
- Propose renaming Category:Former military installations in South Australia to Category:Closed military installations in South Australia
- Propose renaming Category:Former military installations in Victoria (state) to Category:Closed military installations in Victoria (state)
- Propose renaming Category:Former military installations of Denmark to Category:Closed military installations of Denmark
- Propose renaming Category:Former forts to Category:Closed forts
- Propose renaming Category:Former star forts to Category:Closed star forts
- Propose renaming Category:Former military installations in Germany to Category:Closed military installations in Germany
- Propose renaming Category:Former United States military installations in Germany to Category:Closed United States military installations in Germany
- Propose renaming Category:Former military air bases in Ukraine to Category:Closed military air bases in Ukraine
- I have no opinion on whether this is a good idea or not. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:49, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. The nominator is absolutely right about distinction between the two terms. However, semantically speaking "closed" implies a certain process that makes a particular object "former". Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 21:15, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Will there be a change like instead of "Former country" to "Closed country" in order to make everything uniform? Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 21:19, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Selena y Los Dinos
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Selena y Los Dinos to Category:Selena
- Nominator's rationale: Eponymous parent category here is unnecessary just for a members subcat, especially since Category:Selena exists. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 04:52, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:09, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose I had forgotten to create an albums category for the group's albums but the category no longer just has one subcategory. Dash9Z (talk) 01:38, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think that is enough to warrant an eponymous category for the group. Plus, the Selena category serves the same purpose and is more all encompassing. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 07:20, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Two subcategories and Selena y Los Dinos in this category as of relisting. Is this enough for it to be kept?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:39, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Comics retailers
[edit]- Propose splitting Category:Comics retailers to Category:Comics bookshops and Category:Comics retailers (people)
- Propose renaming Category:Comics retailers in Canada to Category:Comics bookshops in Canada
- Nominator's rationale: split, we do not usually mix biographies and companies. This is a kind of undoing of the result of this 2008 discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:48, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose rename. Support splitting articles on people to Category:Comics retailers (people). I think we should be able to standardise around adding (people) for the articles about people. There are several others of these under Category:Retailers by type of merchandise sold, and most are not book stores. I also think "bookshop" is probably not the best target name. "Comic book store" would seem to be the more common name, if anything. - jc37 12:37, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag Category:Comics retailers in Canada.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:29, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Infectious disease deaths in the Seljuk Empire
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: delete, category contains only one article which is not helpful for navigation. Merging is not needed, the article is also in Category:Infectious disease deaths in Syria. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:11, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Furry stubs
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated stub category with little prospect of expansion to the required size. As always, stub categories are not free for just any user to create on a whim for any topic of personal interest -- there have to be at least 60 articles to file in a stub category before it can be created, and for that very reason stub categories have to be proposed to Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting for discussion before they can be created. But this was never proposed for discussion, and there's only one article here with no prospect of finding 59 others quickly: the mainspace category Category:Furry fandom doesn't even contain 60 articles total across it and all of its subcategories combined, and what it does contain isn't all (or even mostly) stubs.
The template isn't as much of a problem -- the minimum bar for a stub template isn't 60 articles, as templates can file articles into higher-level stub categories in the meantime even if they don't yet have enough articles to get their own dedicated category. So I'm fine with keeping it if somebody can think of an appropriate higher-level category that it can be moved to -- but as a stub template does have to file its entries somewhere, it also has to be deleted if a replacement stub category can't be found. Bearcat (talk) 15:12, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:British businesspeople in the natural gas industry
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Contains only a single article which is about the chief executive of an energy supplier. AusLondonder (talk) 14:35, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Georgian–Seljuk wars
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Georgian–Seljuk wars to Category:Battles of the Georgian–Seljuk wars
- Nominator's rationale: rename, per actual content, except for one article they are all about battles. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:33, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Catering and food service companies of Scotland
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Contains no articles and only a subcat not about catering and food service companies (Category:Hotels in Scotland) AusLondonder (talk) 14:24, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, Category:Restaurants in Scotland can easily be added but that wouldn't be enough. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:37, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Lutilodix
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Lutilodix to Category:Fanulena
- Nominator's rationale: https://doi.org/10.1071/IS22049 NotAGenious (talk) 14:02, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Is this source proposing a revision or establishing a revision? That is not very clear. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:42, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Finishing (construction)
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Useless category containing a single article. AusLondonder (talk) 13:52, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Shouldn't it be merged to its parent category? This is really just a question, 'no' can also be a good answer. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:45, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Places named after Canadian politicians
[edit]- Propose deleting Category:Places named after Canadian politicians (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Places named after George-Étienne Cartier (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Places named after Tommy Douglas (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Places named after René Lévesque (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Places named after Louis Riel (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Places named after John Robson (politician) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Places named after prime ministers of Canada (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Places named after John Abbott (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Places named after Robert Borden (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Places named after John Diefenbaker (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Places named after William Lyon Mackenzie King (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Places named after Wilfrid Laurier (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Places named after John A. Macdonald (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Places named after Alexander Mackenzie (politician) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Places named after Arthur Meighen (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Places named after Lester B. Pearson (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Places named after Louis St. Laurent (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Places named after Pierre Elliott Trudeau (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Places named after Charles Tupper (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: WP:SHAREDNAME violations. Per longstanding consensus, we do not categorize things for who or what they were named after. Bearcat (talk) 13:45, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:46, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Fire prevention in the United Kingdom
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Only subcat by country in the Category:Fire prevention tree and contains only a single redirect to Building regulations in the United Kingdom. AusLondonder (talk) 13:38, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:48, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:University and college field hockey venues in the United Kingdom
[edit]- Propose merging Category:University and college field hockey venues in the United Kingdom to Category:College field hockey venues and Category:Field hockey venues in the United Kingdom and Category:University and college field hockey in the United Kingdom and Category:University sports venues in the United Kingdom
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge this underpopulated category Category:University and college field hockey venues in the United Kingdom (1). Mason (talk) 12:40, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support in principle but only merge to Category:University sports venues in the United Kingdom since the article is about a multi-purpose venue. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:51, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:College sports teams by university
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Redudant category layer Mason (talk) 12:37, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge or delete per nom, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Maybe delete because the subcategory is by team rather than by university, but I am not sure of this. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:56, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Subfields of astrophysics
[edit]- Propose splitting Category:Subfields of astrophysics to Category:Astrophysics and Category:Subfields of physics
- Nominator's rationale: Duel upmerge. This category is underpopulated, and not helpful for navigation with only two pages in it Mason (talk) 12:32, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support in principle per nom, perhaps it should (also) be merged to Category:Astronomical sub-disciplines. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:01, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Hyperinflations
[edit]- Propose splitting Category:Hyperinflations to Category:Inflation and Category:Financial crises
- Nominator's rationale: Duel merge. There are only two pages in here that, which isn't helpful for navigation. If not merged, the category should be renamed to Hyperinflation to reflect the topic category Hyperinflation Mason (talk) 12:28, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- It is populated better now. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:11, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Olympic Games swimming controversies
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: I think we should purge and selectively merge this category because olympic swimming controversies are vague, and we don't really have enough content in Swimming controversies that are non-olympic to justify diffusing Mason (talk) 12:25, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, it is a viable subcategory of Category:Olympic Games controversies. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:14, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:TripleS (group)
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: withdrawn (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 15:15, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:TripleS (group) to Category:TripleS
:Nominator's rationale: The group doesn’t require disambiguation. The category should simply be renamed to "TripleS." Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 08:36, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'm withdrawing my request.Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 12:13, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- This could have been listed at Speedy but the subcategories should be nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- I understand. How do I withdraw my request? Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 08:53, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Stations of Tokyo Toden
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: merge, only one article in the category, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:40, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Tram stops in Switzerland by municipality
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Tram stops in Switzerland by municipality to Category:Tram stops
- Nominator's rationale: merge, only one subcategory in the category, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:35, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Tram stops in Switzerland would be more appropriate. Mackensen (talk) 11:11, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- There aren't any other articles about tram stops in Switzerland so I presume we can skip that. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:17, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Are you proposing to upmerge Category:Tram stops in Switzerland as well, then? jlwoodwa (talk) 21:54, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- There aren't any other articles about tram stops in Switzerland so I presume we can skip that. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:17, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:People associated with the Livonian Order
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: rename, "associated with" is unnecessarily vague. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:30, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Game jam video games
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Having been initially created as part of a game jam is not defining for these games. While it can be an interesting factoid that shows how game jams help inspire developers, my guess is that most players of Celeste, Inscryption, etc. don't know or care that it originated in a game jam, and it certainly isn't mentioned prominently in the gaming media. That makes this category fail WP:NONDEF. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 03:23, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Just because some players may not know the game originated from a game jam doesn't invalidate that there is recognization of what game jams produce in the industry as a whole, so this is a defining category. Also, "not mentioned prominently in gaming media" can be disproven with sources, [1], [2], [3] etc. --Masem (t) 03:29, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- I can't read the first two sources but the third is surely irrelevant for this discussion. It proves notability of the topic, but it does not prove that it is defining for e.g. Amnesia Fortnight 2012. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:21, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- What I meant is that it is not typically mentioned when the gaming press talks about a particular game. Of course, game jams are notable. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:12, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- If it's needed to show how games created through game jams are recognized post release as such games, it becomes a matter of picking examples, and this will depend on the impact of the game and relationship to coverage.
A well known game is Inscryption and those sources are plenty eg [4], [5], [6]. Or Goat Simulator, [7], [8], [9].
The idea is comparable to how a projects originates such as in Category:Crowdfunded video games and even to a degree of Category:Indie games (though here this has no question of being defining). The implication that players may not care about these is short sighted since these are a significant vector of new games into the industry and the industry recognizes the importance of game jams. — Masem (t) 19:17, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- I can't read the first two sources but the third is surely irrelevant for this discussion. It proves notability of the topic, but it does not prove that it is defining for e.g. Amnesia Fortnight 2012. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:21, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Surnames of Lechitic origin
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Completely redundant very thin linguistic layers. --Altenmann >talk 00:37, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom, but merge Category:Lechitic-language surnames to Category:West Slavic-language surnames. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:27, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
September 18
[edit]Category:Fictional criminal organizations
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: "Criminal organization" and "organized crime group" are synonymous. No reason for separate categories to exist. Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 23:37, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- We have a separate Category:Criminal organizations and Category:Organized crime groups too. Let's discuss that first. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:29, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. As Marco said, there's also a real-life Category:Criminal organizations category, which Category:Fictional criminal organizations is meant to be a fictional counterpart to. Also, both categories have subcategories for terrorist organizations, which should be considered distinct from organized crime groups or street gangs which are driven by profit instead of ideology. AHI-3000 (talk) 19:46, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:History of language education
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Unhelpful for navigation as only contains two redirects. Appears to be limited scope for expansion. AusLondonder (talk) 23:15, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:31, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Documentary television series about higher education
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Dual merge. There's only one page in this underpopulated category. Mason (talk) 21:36, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:33, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Districts of Uddevalla
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Districts of Uddevalla to Category:Populated places in Uddevalla Municipality
- Nominator's rationale: rename, technically these are "localities" in Uddevalla Municipality but "populated places" is the term more often used in categories. Villages or hamlets are also okayish, but the current "districts" does not make any sense. After renaming to populated places, Uddevalla may be added to the category.Marcocapelle (talk) 19:15, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle: Both categories currently exist. Are you proposing a merge? jlwoodwa (talk) 00:44, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Subdivisions of Landskrona
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Subdivisions of Landskrona to Category:Geography of Landskrona
- Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. For context, Landskrona is a town with just over 30.000 people. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:59, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Landskrona IP
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:OCVENUE, we do not have venue categories containing incidental events. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:49, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Centuries in Gelsenkirchen
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Centuries in Gelsenkirchen to Category:History of Gelsenkirchen
- Nominator's rationale: merge, the parent category is otherwise empty. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:13, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:American Association Triple Crown winners
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Merge per WP:NARROWCAT; there are only going to be two articles here because the league, while considered a major league, was a brief one. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:35, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Narrow cat definitely applies. Further the pages can just be interlinked. FYI. The wall of text is from the category creator, who isn't engaging in the concerns raised in the nomination and instead seems to assume that the nominator has an agenda. Omnis is making an extremely reasonable nomination. That I would have made had I come across the category first. Mason (talk) 22:52, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, and note that this nomination is A) by the same person who nominated the parent category for deletion less than three months ago, and B) carried out in concert with a series of other moves depopulating the category Category:Major League Baseball Triple Crown winners by removing subcategories for Negro League and American Association players. The supposed rationale for removing the Negro Leagues was that although considered "Major Leagues", they're not part of "Major League Baseball", and therefore only get to go under "baseball", not "Major League Baseball", which must only contain subcategories for the American League and National League. The nominator also didn't bother to notify me of this nomination, which I only discovered when checking what changes had been made to an item on my watchlist.
- The overall effect of these moves is to make all other triple crown winners harder to find by adding unnecessary side-branches in the category tree, just so that the main category will only contain American League and National League players. It's ironic that this nomination is based on the category being a small one that can't be expanded, when the nominator has reduced another category (which the nominator previously argued shouldn't even exist) from seven items to four, and seeks to preclude any others from being added to it.
- The pretext given is that "Major League Baseball" refers to an organization consisting only of the American League and National League, and therefore excludes all other leagues. This can only cause confusion for readers, who will expect all "Major League" triple crown winners to be included, and either assume incorrectly that there must not be any others, or wonder why they have been excluded. Shunting all other triple crown winners into "baseball" along with topics about the minor leagues and amateur baseball carries the message that they are inherently lesser achievements. Nothing useful is accomplished by making the whole category structure more complicated, and hiding or deleting subcategories so that their members are harder to find. P Aculeius (talk) 23:12, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- @P Aculeius, please see WP:ASSUMEGOODFAITH and WP:NARROWCAT; only two articles aren't enough to warrant a category. I apologize for not informing you; I'm guess the Twinkle setting glitched but it was not my intention.
- Also see this discussion about this AFD about keeping the leagues distinguished due to Ngl players being deliberately kept out of the two MLB leagues - the NL and the AL - and are distinct leagues because of that. Retroactive recognition by MLB will not change the reality these players played in. Omnis Scientia (talk) 01:20, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- You tried to eliminate the parent category, and now less than three months later, you're depopulating it by moving or proposing to delete its subcategories. Your rationale for deleting the American Association category is that it only contains two entries, and can't be expanded; but in the process you're reducing the parent category from seven items to four, and precluding it from being expanded. That looks very much like a pattern, as well as a set-up for renominating the main category for deletion.
- Your distinction of "Major League Baseball" consisting only of the American and National Leagues is flawed, both because the description of a "major league" is officially defined to include the American Association and Negro Leagues (as well as several other leagues that didn't produce any triple crown winners), which should therefore be included under the same heading in the category tree; but also because as a legal entity "Major League Baseball" did not exist until 2000, meaning that under your criteria for inclusion there has only been one "Major League Baseball triple crown winner": Miguel Cabrera in 2012. Every other member of the four remaining subcategories preceded the formation of "Major League Baseball", and would thus have to be excluded as well. The distinction that you're making produces a nonsensical result.
- The AFD you refer to is about whether it made sense to keep a list of Negro League players who later played in the Major Leagues, which was nominated for deletion because Negro Leaguers are now officially considered Major Leaguers, and therefore all of them played in the Major Leagues. The discussion was closed as "keep" in just over a day since nobody agreed with the nomination. Some of those who replied made a point of how at the time they existed the Negro Leagues were most definitely not considered Major Leagues; but the respondents' point was not that they were not Major Leagues, but that the distinction made prior to integration was relevant to whether such a list was worth having. Thus the AFD to which you refer is not pertinent to this discussion.
- The fact that Major League Baseball—and most other organizations devoted to recording the history of the Major Leagues—recognizes the statistics of the Negro Leagues, American Association, Union Association, Players' League, and Federal League on par with those of the American and National Leagues, means that there is no justification for excluding all records other than those of the American and National Leagues from the heading of "Major League Baseball"; it is a distinction without a practical difference. This is not to say that these records should not be grouped by league; doing so is traditional for many reasons. The part that makes no sense is to consider the American and National Leagues together, and keep them separate from the eleven other leagues that are also considered to have been "Major Leagues".
- Normally I would agree that a subcategory with only two entries is unnecessary; but all of the other Major League triple crown winners are categories by league, and eliminating the American Association category would require its entries to be diffused into the parent category, which is a container category without any other individual entries. But what you have done is removed the Negro Leagues as well, and shunted them into "baseball" rather than "Major League Baseball". And this makes them harder to find, or to put it another way, makes the category tree harder to navigate. The advantages of keeping all categories of Major League triple crown winners within the same container category outweigh any value in the technical distinction between "Major League Baseball" and "the Major Leagues", or any concern about there being only two entries under "American Association triple crown winners". If you were going to diffuse the latter's members into a parent category, you ought also to diffuse the other subcategories; that would mean fifty-four entries currently sorted into six subcategories.
- The whole scheme of moves and deletions produced today only makes a mess of what had been a simple and intuitive category tree, and if it isn't intended to resurrect the argument for deleting the parent category from last June, then its only justification is splitting hairs by distinguishing between "the Major Leagues" and "Major League Baseball"—itself a dubious proposition, since the American and National Leagues were separate entities until 2000. This nomination should be withdrawn, since the category is justified as a necessary subcategory of a container category that should include the nominated category's contents, along with the two Negro League categories that were simultaneously removed from it—and which should be restored. P Aculeius (talk) 06:25, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- @P Aculeius, I won't be reading through that since you're clearly not assuming good faith. All I will say is that my only object to the MLB triple crown category was the term "winners" since I don't think its something which can be won but rather should be earned. Of course, many people thought otherwise and made good arguments which I ultimately agree with so I respect that.
- And the Ngl categories are still seperate from MLB ones; hence why I referred to the AFD because I wasn't going to make that argument all over again when many have done so there eloquently. That's the current status quo; its complicated and you can disagree but that's how it was decided.
- But none of that complicated debate has anything to do with THIS CFD which is based on WP:NARROWCAT and nothing else. I would appreciate if you don't derail this Cfd with long, unreadable texts which are unrelated. MLB is the NL and AL to most people who don't even know about the brief leagues before modern MLB began at the turn of the 20th-century. Omnis Scientia (talk) 07:38, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment, in most cases I would have immediately supported a nomination like this. The reason I didn't, this time, is because the target contains almost no articles in the root, and it is not likely there will be other articles any time soon (if only because this is not a batch nomination). I am not against the merge but the navigational benefit of the merge is limited. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:45, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle, it is quite tricky in this case because their achievements are very different and the league's records aren't fully documented. I do think there is a solution where these two articles and their achievements can be better and more specifically categorized. Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:54, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Omnis Scientia: can you please elaborate what the solution would be? Marcocapelle (talk) 05:16, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle, well two solutions. I've been skimming through MLB categories and, as I've mentioned above but now can confirm, the only leagues fully categorized are the AL and NL - by achievement, by awards, etc. - due to them being the two leagues have defined MLB over a century (150 years in one case). So the simplest and, IMO, best solution is to delete this category as the list suffices.
- The second is not the best but the "Triple Crown (baseball)" category be divided into pitching and hitting and this way, the two articles can be better categorized and the KBO players in the list can be added there too. But, again, I would much rather just delete this category rather than wade into what would can potentionally become a complicated category tree if we try to categorize this league and others like it in the way the current MLB ones are. I don't think its worth the trouble just for the sake of two articles. Omnis Scientia (talk) 08:36, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Omnis Scientia: correct me if I'm wrong, if you think only AL and NL should stay, are you planning to propose upmerging the Nippon and Negro categories as well? If that is the case a batch nomination would be more appropriate. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:07, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle, no because those aren't old MLB leagues - Nippon is the Japanese major league and Negros Leagues were the MLB equivalent for African American players - they recently recognized as such - back when MLB was segregated. Hence why they aren't in the MLB category and why I created a new "Triple Crown (baseball)" category to house them.
- The American Association (AA) was once part of MLB in the 19th-century but folded after a few years - and, unlike the others, which have multiple people to achieve this distinction, it had relatively few stars. In this case, the two players in this category achieved two different things which are related only by name. So applying WP:NARROWCAT seemed reasonable to me. Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:16, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Adding to this: I moved the American Association category to this one because I assumed this was a straight forward nomination and merging would be made easier this way. Omnis Scientia (talk) 17:05, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Omnis Scientia: correct me if I'm wrong, if you think only AL and NL should stay, are you planning to propose upmerging the Nippon and Negro categories as well? If that is the case a batch nomination would be more appropriate. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:07, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Omnis Scientia: can you please elaborate what the solution would be? Marcocapelle (talk) 05:16, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle, it is quite tricky in this case because their achievements are very different and the league's records aren't fully documented. I do think there is a solution where these two articles and their achievements can be better and more specifically categorized. Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:54, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Note to closer: if its not against the rules, please disregard the category creator's oppose vote and base closing this category based on the others. The creator was assuming bad faith and insinuating that I had an agenda by starting this Cfd. Their vote is not based on any policy but entirely on attacking my intentions. If anything, please read my reasoning and close or relist based on that. Best regards, Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:16, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Second note to closer: please disregard the above bad faith comment—I'm not assuming here; if the nomination was not in bad faith, the above comment clearly is. I gave several valid reasons for opposing this proposal, then elaborated on them when the nominator rejected them, only to have the nominator state point blank that he refused to read what I said. Being the category creator is not a valid reason for having my opposition disregarded, nor is pointing out that the nominator previously tried to eliminate the parent category, and subsequently removed most of its contents after that nomination failed—particularly when the rationale for this nomination is that the category is small. But I will restate my other reasons for opposing the nomination:
- (1) Major League Baseball officially recognizes both the American Association and the Negro Leagues as "major leagues", and that all major references prior to the inclusion of the latter already included American Association records as "major league" records (along with several others that are universally so treated), making the distinction being drawn by the nominator both technical and idiosyncratic.
- (2) The American League and National League were themselves separate entities, and did not amalgamate into "Major League Baseball" until 2000; by insisting that a category listing major league baseball triple crown winners should only include players from "Major League Baseball", the nominator is excluding all National League triple crown winners and all but one of the American League winners as well. This creates an unexplained inconsistency, since these and all of their contents are still subcategories.
- (3) Readers would naturally expect to find all major league triple crown winners in the same category, rather than having the American and National Leagues in one subcategory, and all other major league triple crown winners in the same category with Japanese and Korean baseball (and presumably any other international or minor leagues that might have produced triple crowns). The resulting category structure is confusing and counterintuitive; it does a disservice to readers by hiding subcategories that they would expect to find in the main category, giving the impression that there are no other major league triple crown winners, or alternatively that they are not on par with those of the American or National Leagues, when they have been officially so declared, and when those of the nominated category have always been so considered. P Aculeius (talk) 16:56, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @P Aculeius, respectfully, you did not at all give any reasons with regards to THIS nomination and that's why I did not read through all your reasons. You went on a rant about baseball leagues which should be discussed on WP:Baseball, not on here. Please don't derail this Cfd with unrelated topics. This is a straight forward WP:NARROWCAT and the two Triple Crown winners won two different types of triple crowns; on top of that AA league leaders aren't categorized (same case with all defunct leagues). Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:21, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: There is a lot of noise here. This is a content forum, not a conduct forum. If you think someone is acting in bad faith, WP:ANI is thataway. So – everyone – knock it off. With that out of the way: More uninvolved participation is needed to form consensus. Should we have some articles directly in Category:Triple Crown (baseball) winners?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 18:10, 18 September 2024 (UTC)- @HouseBlaster, my apologies. I only nominated this as a simple WP:NARROWCAT nomination and for no other reason. I honestly didn't expect such a huge reaction from the creator when I was simply following the policy set by the Baseball WikiProject. Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:48, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Film post-production technology
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Film post-production technology to Category:Film and video technology
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. Post-production isn't a defining characteristic for these pages Mason (talk) 22:58, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Selective manual merge to multiple parents as appropriate case by case. – Fayenatic London 06:42, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Good suggestion Mason (talk) 22:47, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Having once had a toe in this world, I think it is different from general film & technology. Category:Television and film post-production companies should certainly be kept. Examples of articles for which it is not defining, please, and why? Johnbod (talk) 17:25, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Response to Johnbod's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 18:03, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Bordeaux tramway stops
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Bordeaux tramway stops to Category:Tram stops in Bordeaux
- Nominator's rationale: I'm not familiar with public transportation in France but it looks like these categories are duplicates of each other. Since this category is the only category in Category:Tram stops in France by system, it seems wiser to merge this category rather than doing a merge in the opposite direction. Liz Read! Talk! 17:50, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Instead, all subcategories under Category:Tram stops in France by commune should be deleted. All these tram stops are part of the network of Bordeaux tramway. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:21, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:East German swimming people
[edit]- Propose merging Category:East German swimming people to Category:Swimming in East Germany
- Propose merging Category:Swimming people in the United Kingdom to Category:Swimming in the United Kingdom
- Propose merging Category:German swimming people to Category:Swimming in Germany
- Nominator's rationale: Do we really need "Swimming people categories" like this? Mason (talk) 03:00, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- At least merge East German, which has only two subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:42, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Merge the rest?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 17:50, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Persecution of Greeks in the Ottoman Empire before the 20th century
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:OCMISC, this is an "all-other" category (other than the 20th century). Marcocapelle (talk) 17:40, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Maltese pop singer navigational boxes
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: I see little reason to diffuse here. There are no other Maltese genre nav box categories for musicians. Just adds another layer/level of categorization/navigation that is unnecessary. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 16:27, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Script–font templates, deprecated
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This template had two pages which were deleted in TfD. If a template is unwanted, it should be sent to TfD or tagged with a deprecation template. This type of category is unhelpful and usually ends up lost. Gonnym (talk) 16:18, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Libertarian Party of Canada
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Libertarian Party of Canada to Category:Libertarianism in Canada
- Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary eponymous category for a small political party. User:Namiba 15:29, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:25, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:History of the Maratha Confederacy
[edit]- Propose merging Category:History of the Maratha Confederacy to Category:Maratha Confederacy
- Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:11, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support: Agree with nom's rationale. PadFoot (talk) 16:01, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:History of the University of Manchester
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Contains a single article which is not specifically about the history of the University of Manchester. AusLondonder (talk) 15:08, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- If the category is kept this article might stay and two student protest articles may be added. But I am not really opposing. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:18, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Pedophilia in the Catholic church
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: A duplicate of Category:Catholic Church sexual abuse scandals, contains only subcategories, one which is already in the existing category. AusLondonder (talk) 14:59, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom (perhaps keep as redirect). Marcocapelle (talk) 15:19, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- delete per nom, also seems very ripe for WP:BLP violations ... sawyer * he/they * talk 16:20, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- I recommend merging to Category:Catholic Church sexual abuse scandalsjust in case DLE adds pages to this category before the nomination is processed. Mason (talk) 21:48, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:German Research Foundation
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Recently created category serves no purpose, only contains the main article. AusLondonder (talk) 14:53, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Shouldn't it be merged to Category:Scientific organisations based in Germany? Marcocapelle (talk) 15:21, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah German Research Foundation should be there unfortunately the creator of this category removed it from that category. AusLondonder (talk) 15:29, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:26, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. In the future, noms like this can be speedied if you propose a merge target @AusLondonder. Mason (talk) 21:31, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Is this the correct procedure? AusLondonder (talk) 22:38, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- That, and speedy nominations have their own sort of tags. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:39, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Is this the correct procedure? AusLondonder (talk) 22:38, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. In the future, noms like this can be speedied if you propose a merge target @AusLondonder. Mason (talk) 21:31, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Deutscher Wetterdienst
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Another recently created category with only a single article contained within. Serves no purpose. AusLondonder (talk) 14:45, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Shouldn't it be merged to Category:Governmental meteorological agencies in Europe? Marcocapelle (talk) 15:22, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support merge Mason (talk) 21:32, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Foreign relations of the Kingdom of Georgia
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:23, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:2nd millennium in the Kingdom of Georgia
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: delete, duplicate of Category:Centuries in the Kingdom of Georgia. The existence of the Kingdom of Georgia is wholly limited to the 2nd millennium. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:19, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Opposition to Ferenc Gyurcsány
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This category was already deleted by discussion once. Allan Nonymous (talk) 12:56, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Please provide a link to the previous discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:26, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Ojarumaru episode lists
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Ojarumaru episode lists to Category:Ojarumaru seasons
- Nominator's rationale: Per content. Solidest (talk) 09:21, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Attack on Titan episode lists
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Attack on Titan episode lists to Category:Attack on Titan seasons
- Nominator's rationale: Per content. Currently, such categories are predominantly called '.... seasons'. Solidest (talk) 09:14, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Lists of Numbers (TV series) episodes
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Per content. Articles about seasons are distinct from lists of episodes articles and are neither lists nor included in the hierarchy of 'lists of episode' categories. Solidest (talk) 09:12, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Lists of Law & Order episodes by season
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Lists of Law & Order episodes by season to Category:Law & Order seasons
- Nominator's rationale: Per content. 'Lists of episodes' categories should include 'Lists of episodes' articles. Solidest (talk) 09:10, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Union Nationale des Étudiants de France
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: No purpose of a category with only a single article (the main article Union Nationale des Étudiants de France) AusLondonder (talk) 08:20, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom. This could be speedied Mason (talk) 10:44, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Shouldn't it be merged to Category:Groups of students' unions? Marcocapelle (talk) 12:21, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Union Nationale des Étudiants de France is not a group of student unions, it's a single union. AusLondonder (talk) 13:12, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- You are right, then I will remove that as a parent. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:28, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Union Nationale des Étudiants de France is not a group of student unions, it's a single union. AusLondonder (talk) 13:12, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy delete per WP:C2F. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:28, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Hotels in Hainan
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Hotels in Hainan to Category:Hotels in China
- Nominator's rationale: Category only contains 1 entry. LibStar (talk) 01:28, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Dual merge, also to Category:Buildings and structures in Hainan. The latter contains many subcategories with one entry. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:45, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Emergent gameplay
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: WP:TRIVIALCAT WP:SUBJECTIVECAT
Emergent gameplay refers "complex" situations in games that emerges from relatively "simple" mechanics. The criteria for inclusion is a little vague and the definition of a bit opinionated when you think about it. Emergent gameplay already mentions some of the articles listed here too. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 00:29, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
September 17
[edit]Category:Precision FC players
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: A semi-anonymous club. I don't think it deserves a category, especially since it only has two players, and the sources that mention that they play for it are from a blogging site and social media. EpicAdventurer (talk) 22:19, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. The club also does not have its own article. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:48, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Superoxide generating enzymes
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Superoxide generating enzymes to Category:Superoxide generating substances
- Nominator's rationale: There's only one page and a redirect in this category. Upmege for now as it's not helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 20:16, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:49, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support merge ― Synpath 22:46, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Toxic enzymes
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This category isn't very helpful with only one page in it. Mason (talk) 20:16, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- It's also not meaningfully different from Category:Protein toxins and can be merged/redirected into that. ― Synpath 11:43, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Related: while updating Category:Protein toxins with Botulinum toxin I found Category:Biological toxin weapons - a bizarrely named, small category with mostly protein toxins within it. I removed the small molecule toxins from it and think it should be merged to Category:Protein toxins. ― Synpath 12:25, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- It's also not meaningfully different from Category:Protein toxins and can be merged/redirected into that. ― Synpath 11:43, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Saint Paul Seminary School of Divinity alumni
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: The seminary no longer uses the School of Divinity title in its name or branding and has not for the past several years.~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 19:49, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Please tag the category page. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:50, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:History of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: delete, duplicate of Category:Military of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan. I would not object renaming the latter to Category:Military history of the Republic of Afghanistan. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:03, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:SpaceX astronauts
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:SpaceX astronauts to Category:SpaceX-flown astronauts or something similar, per discussion on the Category talk:SpaceX astronauts.
- Nominator's rationale: Prior to September 2024, all astronauts listed in Category:SpaceX astronauts had simply flown on a SpaceX capsule launched on a SpaceX Falcon 9 launch vehicle. Now, with the completion of the recent private spaceflight mission Polaris Dawn, two SpaceX employees—Sarah Gillis and Anna Menon—have been astronauts (while employed by SpaceX) on this recent commercial spaceflight. It would be confusing to categorize the two of them as merely the sense of astronauts who have flown on SpaceX equipment, as they are also SpaceX employees, and are categorized in Category:SpaceX employee astronauts. (more emplyees are planned to fly on future spaceflights). N2e (talk) 17:46, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Lechitic nobility
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Arbitrary category: Lechites did not have nobility, because applying the concept of nobility to ancient tribes would be an anaccronism. More important: there is no sources that discuss "Lechitic nobility". --Altenmann >talk 18:12, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, not a defining characteristic of the articles in the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:08, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:20th-century disestablishments in East Germany
[edit]- Propose deleting Category:20th-century disestablishments in East Germany (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:20th-century establishments in East Germany (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:20th-century disestablishments in West Germany (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:20th-century establishments in West Germany (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: delete, duplicate of Category:Disestablishments in East Germany by decade because the entire history of East Germany stayed within the 20th century. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:18, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- comment it does seem redundant, but maybe it is simply for formal reasons, Category:20th-century disestablishments in Germany (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs).
- No, there is no formal reason, Category:20th-century disestablishments in Czechoslovakia does not exist either. At most we may keep them aa redirects. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:40, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle: By the way, what would you suggest about confusing forking of category:20th-century disestablishments in West Germany vs. category:20th-century disestablishments in Germany?
- For example, compare Category:1950 disestablishments in Germany and Category:1950 disestablishments in West Germany. Or maybe I miss something. --Altenmann >talk 20:04, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- P.S. Maybe it is West Berlin? --Altenmann >talk 20:04, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- That is odd indeed. I would expect Germany to contain two subcategories, East and West. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:40, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- P.S. Maybe it is West Berlin? --Altenmann >talk 20:04, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- I have added three siblings one day later. The West German categories weren't even part of the tree of West Germany. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:40, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Sports executives by sports organizations
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Delete; any category that can fit here is already fitted in the much better organized Category:Sports executives by sport. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:54, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:24, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Mason (talk) 10:45, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Baseball players from Northern Ireland
[edit]- Propose splitting Category:Baseball players from Northern Ireland to Category:Sportspeople from Northern Ireland and Category:Major League Baseball players from the United Kingdom
- Propose deleting Category:Major League Baseball players from Northern Ireland (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Delete and dual merge per nom. Only one article and that of the same person. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:11, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Major League Baseball players from Ireland
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Dual merge; so all these players, as stated in the category itself, were born in pre-1922 Ireland when it was still part of the UK. So I suggest this be merged with the UK category BUT also that it be allowed to be recreated if there are, in the future, enough players born in post-1922 Ireland to justify a category. This way, any confusion can be avoided. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:53, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Despite being technically correct, as a way to categorise players I don't see it as valuable to a reader. IMO moving "United Kingdom" to "Great Britain" would make more sense. Cashew.wheel (talk) 14:13, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Cashew.wheel, that would cut out anyone from Northern Ireland then. Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:33, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- I was initially going to do Cfd a merge all constitunency nation categories for this into the parent category since they are, historically less than a hundred UK-born players in MLB history. What do you think of that suggestion? Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:35, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Despite being technically correct, as a way to categorise players I don't see it as valuable to a reader. IMO moving "United Kingdom" to "Great Britain" would make more sense. Cashew.wheel (talk) 14:13, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose if the category were "from the Republic of Ireland", I would agree. But these players are from Ireland and not the United Kingdom. This nomination confuses Ireland, which is a geographic space, for the United Kingdom, which is a political entity.--User:Namiba 13:23, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- To be clear "Republic of Ireland" is not a political entity, it's just a description of the country of Ireland. Cashew.wheel (talk) 13:45, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Bastun, @Namiba, they are from the United Kingdom though. Pre-1922 Ireland was part of the United Kingdom (hence "United"). I would be open to other suggestions to clear up confusions here. Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:30, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- They were no more from the United Kingdom than any other colonial subject was "from" the United Kingdom. They were from occupied Ireland and erasing that is not useful or accurate.--User:Namiba 19:35, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Namiba, fair point. I will let the play out and I think the descriptor would have to be changed then to contain both pre-1922 Ireland players and any future Republic of Ireland players. Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:40, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- They were no more from the United Kingdom than any other colonial subject was "from" the United Kingdom. They were from occupied Ireland and erasing that is not useful or accurate.--User:Namiba 19:35, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per Namiba. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 13:54, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Baseball venue navigational boxes
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Dual merge to parent categories with no objection to recreation if there are more templates fitting the criteria of this page. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:50, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:27, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:People from the State of Palestine
[edit]- Propose merging Category:People from the State of Palestine to Category:Palestinian people
- Nominator's rationale: My previous proposal to disambiguate was closed due to a lack of consensus, with some reasonable arguments referencing the millions of Palestinians in the diaspora who are not from the State of Palestine. Therefore, I propose a merge. No other country makes a distinction similar to that between Category:French people and Category:People from France. Sakakami (talk) 06:55, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- My first instinct was to oppose, but after seeing which subcategories are in each of these two categories (with a considerable amount of overlap) I rather tend to support. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:18, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Procedurally oppose. The last discussion was closed yesterday. And none of the contributors were pinged. Mason (talk) 20:18, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Web-julio, @Namiba pinging all contributors to the previous discussion. Sakakami (talk) 21:12, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. But I agree with Marco that it needs purging. Web-julio (talk) 22:05, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- This is a completely different proposal than Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 September 9#Category:Palestinian people. Sakakami (talk) 21:13, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- If it were completely different, why did you literally cite it as the rationale for this proposal? Mason (talk) 10:46, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- In a way, this proposal is the opposite of the September 9 proposal to disambiguate Category:Palestinian people. Here, I am suggesting a merge into Category:Palestinian people. Do you have any substantial feedback on the content of the proposal, rather than just a procedural opposition? Sakakami (talk) 15:48, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- If it were completely different, why did you literally cite it as the rationale for this proposal? Mason (talk) 10:46, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Web-julio, @Namiba pinging all contributors to the previous discussion. Sakakami (talk) 21:12, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Procedurally oppose. The last discussion was closed yesterday. And none of the contributors were pinged. Mason (talk) 20:18, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
LGBT categories, round 3
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:LGBT writers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:LGBTQ writers
- Propose renaming Category:LGBT studies academics (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:LGBTQ studies academics
- Nominator's rationale: A third (much smaller) batch of categories which were omitted from batch 1 and batch 2. Rename to add the Q per WP:CONSUB and WP:C2D per Talk:LGBTQ#Requested move 14 August 2024. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:32, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Rename per nom. Note that support seems to be snowing for batch 1 and 2. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:26, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Rename per nom.--Trystan (talk) 06:41, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:52, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Rename as long as we leave redirects Mason (talk) 20:19, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:52, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Rename with redirects. ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 15:09, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. Raladic (talk) 15:34, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support, though I agree that redirects should be left in place. This has already been discussed to death, and was settled when the page finally got moved several weeks back — but since some of the categories in this tree got speedy moved before the objection was raised, meaning that some are at LGBTQ while others are still at LGBT, it has become an incredibly disruptive burden to have to manually determine whether any individual category is at "LGBTQ" or just "LGBT" before adding it to an article, which is a dumpster fire I have no responsibility to put up with any further. Bearcat (talk) 16:03, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Former objects
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Former objects to Category:Former entities
- Nominator's rationale: Would it be correct to call these "former objects"? After all, a mine being shut down doesn't make it disappear, and being smashed into a million pieces doesn't remove something from existence. I don't think this category makes that much sense, and is heavily overlapping either way, so it should be merged. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 12:20, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Leaning support, the content of the category is a hodgepodge. But the target already has 50+ subcategories, I wish we could find some way of structuring it. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:26, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep as a somewhat helpful diffusion of the parent. I have diffused a few other sub-cats of that parent but it is indeed a mixture. Category:Former business entities (or similar) could hold Defunct brands, Former corporate subsidiaries by company, Former dual-listed companies, Former government-owned companies, Former joint ventures, Defunct companies, Defunct record labels. Category:People by former status might be useful for biography categories, but I only noticed Former members of organizations, Former billionaires and Former slaves that would go there. – Fayenatic London 09:49, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, I created Category:Former business entities. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:27, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- some of the items in former objects probably should not be there. a mine is not an object, its a geographical or even geological feature, not an object. its a structure of sorts. however, i still stand by this as my effort to create broader and broader categories up to the most basic categories on WP. maybe cull some categories out of it. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 22:00, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep The possible problems with the mine example aside, I agree with the nomination insofar as these here do not stop being objects as such, but they are no longer the type of object they once were. So the category makes sense in this regard. I can't think of a better title which describes this 100% accurately and remains concise at the same time, so I would tend to keep it as a helpful organizational tier as described by Fayenatic london. Category:People by former status likewise seems a good idea to have. Daranios (talk) 08:43, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Elite 11 participants
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This is a high school football competition. It is a non-defining characteristic User:Namiba 20:04, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - A list of participants on the main article (Elite 11) exists, making this a defining category. It being limited to high school players shouldn't be the only argument for deletion as it is a national competition by invite only. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 20:09, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Taking part in this competition is a minor part of any player's career. It would definitely not be suitable for an introduction and sources do not consistently refer to it. Per WP:NONDEF, "a defining characteristic is one that reliable, secondary sources commonly and consistently define, in prose, the subject as having. For example: "Subject is an adjective noun ..." or "Subject, an adjective noun, ...". If such examples are common, each of adjective and noun may be deemed to be "defining" for subject.
- Oppose - A list of participants on the main article (Elite 11) exists, making this a defining category. It being limited to high school players shouldn't be the only argument for deletion as it is a national competition by invite only. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 20:09, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
if the characteristic would not be appropriate to mention in the lead section of an article (regardless of whether it is currently mentioned in the lead), it is probably not defining; if the characteristic falls within any of the forms of overcategorization mentioned on this page, it is probably not defining."--User:Namiba
- Delete, trivial characteristic of anyone's career. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:48, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Second overall NFL draft picks
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: A non-defining category. User:Namiba 19:12, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - As a main article (List of second overall NFL draft picks) exists, the category should be considered defining. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 20:06, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. It is defining to be the first overall draft pick since that person is the FIRST of the draft and is considered to be the best player of all the picks. The second overall
is the 30th-something pick in the draft and, while still great, is not going to be. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:45, 9 September 2024 (UTC)- "The second overall is the 30th-something pick in the draft" It's not the 30th pick, it's the 2nd. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 01:21, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiOriginal-9, you know, that's my bad, I mistook second OVERALL as second ROUND! But the point still stands. It still isn't defining in the way it is for a first overall. Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:01, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Would the same logic be applied to the article then? I only made the category to match it. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 17:25, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Dissident93, articles and categories have different criteria so the existance of the article isn't relevant to the Cfd. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:58, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Seems like WP:COMMONSENSE to me. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 23:16, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Dissident93, your argument is that the category should exist because there is an article listing them. But that isn't how we categorize things at all. Just because there is a list article of something, it doesn't have to or even need to be categorized.
- Second overall picks are WP:NONDEFINING and WP:TRIVIALCAT. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:16, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Seems like WP:COMMONSENSE to me. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 23:16, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Dissident93, articles and categories have different criteria so the existance of the article isn't relevant to the Cfd. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:58, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Would the same logic be applied to the article then? I only made the category to match it. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 17:25, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiOriginal-9, you know, that's my bad, I mistook second OVERALL as second ROUND! But the point still stands. It still isn't defining in the way it is for a first overall. Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:01, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- "The second overall is the 30th-something pick in the draft" It's not the 30th pick, it's the 2nd. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 01:21, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak keep: I do think it's a possibly defining category, as it's certainly brought up enough in the media and on broadcasts to be relevant, but it may be a bias from having watched Calvin Johnson, Ndamukong Suh, and Aidan Hutchinson (Detroit Lions). So long as List of second overall NFL draft picks exists, I think this category makes sense to keep. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:54, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Habsburg Bohemia
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Habsburg Bohemia to Category:Bohemia under Habsburg rule
- Propose renaming Category:Habsburg Silesia to Category:Silesia under Habsburg rule
- Nominator's rationale: rename to same format as subcategories of Category:History of the Habsburg monarchy by country. It is not speediable because a redirect Habsburg Bohemia exists. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:34, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:German expatriates in the Czech lands
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: delete, these weren't expatriates since Bohemia and Moravia were part of the Holy Roman Empire. Marcocapelle (talk) 01:56, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:27, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Members of the Chamber of Representatives of Belgium
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Belgian deputies of the 48th legislature to Category:Members of the 48th Chamber of Representatives (Belgium)
- Propose renaming Category:Belgian deputies of the 49th legislature to Category:Members of the 49th Chamber of Representatives (Belgium)
- Propose renaming Category:Belgian deputies of the 50th legislature to Category:Members of the 50th Chamber of Representatives (Belgium)
- Propose renaming Category:Belgian deputies of the 51st legislature to Category:Members of the 51st Chamber of Representatives (Belgium)
- Propose renaming Category:Belgian deputies of the 52nd legislature to Category:Members of the 52nd Chamber of Representatives (Belgium)
- Propose renaming Category:Belgian deputies of the 53rd legislature to Category:Members of the 53rd Chamber of Representatives (Belgium)
- Propose renaming Category:Belgian deputies of the 54th legislature to Category:Members of the 54th Chamber of Representatives (Belgium)
- Propose renaming Category:Belgian deputies of the 55th legislature to Category:Members of the 55th Chamber of Representatives (Belgium)
- Propose renaming Category:Belgian deputies of the 56th legislature to Category:Members of the 56th Chamber of Representatives (Belgium)
- Nominator's rationale: Belgium has a bicameral legislature. These categories are intended for members of the Chamber of Representatives, the lower chamber. There are separate categories for members of the Senate, the upper chamber. Using the term "legislature" in the category makes it ambiguous.Obi2canibe (talk) 20:13, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge all to Category:Members of the Chamber of Representatives (Belgium), this is massive overcategorization. Have a look at e.g. Daniel Bacquelaine. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:45, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment In accordance with WP:DIFFUSE, legislator categories are often sub-categorised by term in order to prevent the parent category from becoming overpopulated. This can result in long serving legislators being included in several categories e.g. Jeremy Corbyn is included in 11 categories, Angela Merkel is included in 8 categories.--Obi2canibe (talk) 20:56, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Then better diffuse them by century, similar to what we do with politicians in general. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:55, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- How would that help overpopulation? We already have several hundred articles on English Wikipedia for Belgian MPs and this could potentially increase to more than 3,000 articles. Assuming an even distribution, that's 2,250 20th century members and 750 21st century members.--Obi2canibe (talk) 17:46, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Historical monuments in Uzbekistan
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: delete, apart from mausoleums the category does not contain monuments and memorials. The mausoleum articles are already in Category:Mausoleums in Uzbekistan, part of Category:Monuments and memorials in Uzbekistan. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:40, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. I think this category is for heritage-listed buildings and structures, which can indeed be referred to as "historical monuments". It shouldn't be in Category:Monuments and memorials in Uzbekistan though. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:31, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Some buildings are listed, others aren't. It could be an option to rename to Category:Listed buildings in Uzbekistan and purge non-listed buildings. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:01, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
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- That is my understanding too, based on the text of the articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:56, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Depends what Uzbekistan calls its heritage-listed buildings. It appears to be something like "National Register of Immovable Property Objects of the Material and Cultural Heritage of Uzbekistan". -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:53, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Considering we do not have an article about listed buildings in Uzbekistan, I suppose that the more general Category:Listed buildings in Uzbekistan is a more safe rename target. But the category still needs to be purged and re-parented. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:01, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Empirical evidence
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Empirical evidence to Category:Empiricism
- Nominator's rationale: There are only two pages in here, which can be linked directly if they're not already. Mason (talk) 20:05, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Reverse merger: empiricism is a narrower concept than empirical evidence: empiricism holds that true knowledge or justification comes only (or primarily) from empirical evidence. Empirical evidence per se makes no claim about its importance, whether it's primary or secondary in knowledge construction. fgnievinski (talk) 21:54, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Agree with Fgnievinski that Category:Empiricism is not a good merge target. Alternative: merge Category:Empirical evidence to Category:Evidence. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:15, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- I like the alternative merge recommendation. I don't think we should reverse merge, given that Empiricism is a category created in 2005, and is much broader. Mason (talk) 23:27, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- I would oppose the reverse merge proposed by fgnievinski. Mason (talk) 20:20, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- I like the alternative merge recommendation. I don't think we should reverse merge, given that Empiricism is a category created in 2005, and is much broader. Mason (talk) 23:27, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Diplomats of former countries
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Diplomats of former countries to Category:Diplomats by former country
- Nominator's rationale: I was inspired by a comment on @Johnpacklambert:'s page. I want us to consider renaming this category Diplomats by former country. It fits with the rest of the People by former country tree. Mason (talk) 13:19, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- By suggests it is a container category, in contrast to of. Then what to do with the 8 articles that aren't in subcategories? Marcocapelle (talk) 14:52, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'd think that they should be removed, and placed into relevant parents until there's a critical mass for a category of their own. Mason (talk) 17:01, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hm, I don't know, it does not seem very helpful to remove these 8 articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:04, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'd think that they should be removed, and placed into relevant parents until there's a critical mass for a category of their own. Mason (talk) 17:01, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Defunct games
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Defunct games to Category:Inactive online games
- Nominator's rationale: Is it possible for a game to be defunct without relying on the Internet in some way? I think this is an unnecessary parent category since there's nothing that wouldn't fit into the subcategory. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:17, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Zxcvbnm It's complicated. Did you look at the entries there? It had some entries added that belong in the Category:Inactive online games and I moved them there, so I assume you clicked on these and did not notice that the category is intended for games that mix physical and online components, but cannot be classified as online games. For example, there were board games like Golem Arcana or children games like Xtractaurs that have physical presence as well as online component that became defunct; as well as many defunct CCGs (those probably need their own category and populating it) like Sword Girls. I've pruned the category to those three entries, although I expect there are more such products to be added. Anyway, the point of this category is to list defunct (inactive) games that are not only online, but physical. You cannot classify Golem Arcana, Xtractaurs or Sword Girls as 'online games', as you played them in the real world; the first two had an online component, but defunct CCGs don't (and they need a separate category, to be honest). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:22, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- If the game depends on online to function, then that would make it an "online game", right? Even if it has a physical component, that would be useless without the computerized online part. Digital CCG's are also basically video games. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 04:19, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Zxcvbnm Not when the game has significant physical components, such as miniatures. Golem Arcana can be played with paper rules, IIRC. Anyway, I've created a new subcategory for Category:Discontinued collectible card games so now this is also valid as a parent category unifying such games with online ones and the weird hybrid ones like Golem Arcna and Xtractaurs. @BOZ in case they have some other games to add here, or comments. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:08, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- If the game depends on online to function, then that would make it an "online game", right? Even if it has a physical component, that would be useless without the computerized online part. Digital CCG's are also basically video games. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 04:19, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Zxcvbnm It's complicated. Did you look at the entries there? It had some entries added that belong in the Category:Inactive online games and I moved them there, so I assume you clicked on these and did not notice that the category is intended for games that mix physical and online components, but cannot be classified as online games. For example, there were board games like Golem Arcana or children games like Xtractaurs that have physical presence as well as online component that became defunct; as well as many defunct CCGs (those probably need their own category and populating it) like Sword Girls. I've pruned the category to those three entries, although I expect there are more such products to be added. Anyway, the point of this category is to list defunct (inactive) games that are not only online, but physical. You cannot classify Golem Arcana, Xtractaurs or Sword Girls as 'online games', as you played them in the real world; the first two had an online component, but defunct CCGs don't (and they need a separate category, to be honest). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:22, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Leaning keep, sounds find as a parent category for those discussed above. Daranios (talk) 08:36, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Islam and slavery
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: purge all content that is region-based or language-based rather than religion-based. For comparison, the article Slavery in the United States is not in Category:Christianity and slavery either. Possibly rename to Category:Islamic views on slavery and do the same for other religions. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:03, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Purge but not rename. I think the way it is works well. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:46, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Omnis Scientia: "the way it is" will not continue if it is purged per the nominator's proposal. – Fayenatic London 12:02, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Fayenatic london, you make a fair point. I'm definitely open to more suggestions on the matter. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:11, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Omnis Scientia: "the way it is" will not continue if it is purged per the nominator's proposal. – Fayenatic London 12:02, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Purge but not rename. I think the way it is works well. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:46, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep as is – and put Slavery in the United States into Category:Christianity and slavery. These would reflect realities of religions that have been historically dominant in the society of those regions. Maybe create intermediate categories for Slavery in West Asia and Slavery in North Africa. – Fayenatic London 12:02, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think that religions "been historically dominant in the society of those regions" is a good argument. This way of reasoning would imply that every social history article should be put in a religion category too, I do not think that would be a good idea. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:07, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:People from Daye
[edit]- Propose merging Category:People from Daye to Category:People from Huangshi
- Nominator's rationale: Only contains one entry, and Daye is in Huangshi LibStar (talk) 01:05, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:03, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
September 16
[edit]Category:Executed Ming dynasty people
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Seems duplicative.Hi! I've never done this before! Any mistakes are my own.There might be more of these for other periods. Category:People executed by the Ming dynasty seems better... treed? like in the category tree? Although the two are not congruent, since this is a child of Category:Executed Chinese people by period and the other one isn't, and this one is specifically for Chinese people and the other one isn't. Still seems like one category too many for essentially the same concept. Folly Mox (talk) 12:51, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge, is duplicative indeed. Ultimately the category might be renamed to Category:People executed by China under the Ming dynasty but let's leave that for another time. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:18, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:47, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe, but only as part of a wider nomination of all subcats in Category:Executed Chinese people by period. – Fayenatic London 12:17, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Below are the sibling categories. Afterwards nephew/niece categories may need to be nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:28, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Executed Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms people to Category:People executed by a Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms state
- Category:Executed Jin dynasty (266–420) people to Category:People executed by the Jin dynasty (266–420)
- Category:Executed Liao dynasty people to Category:People executed by the Liao dynasty
- Category:Executed Qin dynasty people to Category:People executed by the Qin dynasty
- Category:Executed Qing dynasty people to Category:People executed by the Qing dynasty
- Category:Executed Sixteen Kingdoms people to Category:People executed by a Sixteen Kingdoms state
- Category:Executed Song dynasty people to Category:People executed by the Song dynasty
- Category:Executed Northern and Southern dynasties people to Category:People executed by a Northern and Southern dynasties state
- Category:Executed Sui dynasty people to Category:People executed by the Sui dynasty
- Category:Executed Tang dynasty people to Category:People executed by the Tang dynasty
- Category:Executed Three Kingdoms people to Category:People executed by a Three Kingdoms state
- Category:Executed Yuan dynasty people to Category:People executed by the Yuan dynasty
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Category:Virat Kohli
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Not needed, as there are only a few articles directly about Kohli, and not enough to warrant a category. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:31, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Leaning keep; seems okay to me ATM and is the average size of most epon categories (and I think it will undoubted expand in the future). Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:01, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Of the 5 things in that category, Career of Virat Kohli is a spinoff of Virat Kohli that doesn't look to have had consensus to be created, Super V is
is an Indian animated television series loosely based on Virat Kohli
, so is only tangentially relevant to Kohli, and {{Virat Kohli series}} is up for deletion. As such, I see 2-3 sensible articles in this category only, which is not enough. For reference, Category:Sachin Tendulkar has 11. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:26, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Of the 5 things in that category, Career of Virat Kohli is a spinoff of Virat Kohli that doesn't look to have had consensus to be created, Super V is
- Leaning keep; seems okay to me ATM and is the average size of most epon categories (and I think it will undoubted expand in the future). Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:01, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:History of Bechuanaland Protectorate
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: merge, two redundant category layers with two subcategories in total. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:45, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:History of the Ashanti Empire
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: delete, duplicate of Category:Military of the Ashanti Empire. I would not object to renaming the latter to Category:Military history of the Ashanti Empire. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:34, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:History of the Republic of Artsakh
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:History of the Republic of Artsakh to Category:History of Nagorno-Karabakh
- Nominator's rationale: rename per main article History of Nagorno-Karabakh and because many articles in the category are about the period before the Republic of Artsakh was established. After this rename Category:Republic of Artsakh should become a subcategory instead of a parent category. By all means keep a redirect. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:15, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:André Previn
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: With all related subcats in the "works by" category scheme, this eponymous parent is unnecessary. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 15:43, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:21, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Years
[edit]- Propose splitting Category:Years to Category:Years BC and Category:Years AD
- Nominator's rationale: I think it would worth moving the relevant sub-categories, for individual years, into Category:Years BC and Category:Years AD. What do others think? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:01, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Rather create e.g. Category:Years of the 15th century, similar to Category:Years of the 15th century by continent and Category:Years of the 15th century by country. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:29, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- That works for me. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:38, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Questions What is the benefit? What would happen to subcats which span AD & BC, either now or in the future? ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 23:06, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Shooting people
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Newly created category that duplicates an existing category, and is extremely liable to being misunderstood and misused. These were created as parents for a new Category:Shooting coaches hierarchy, but the problem is that the name is highly ambiguous -- it isn't clearly communicating the distinction between the intended "people involved in sport shooting" and unintended uses like "people who shot other people" or "people who were shot" or "people who committed mass shootings" that wouldn't belong in the same place as sport shooters.
So since we already have Category:Sport shooters for people involved in sport shooting, and the coaches category has already been added to it, we don't need this to coexist alongside it. Bearcat (talk) 14:03, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:31, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, I agree that this duplicate category tree is more trouble than its worth. Mason (talk) 20:21, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Misplaced comment
[edit]I am also of the opinion to rename or remove this category. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Attorney001 (talk • contribs) 09:15, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Attorney001: please move your comment to the right section. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:31, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Note: I cannot determine what section this comment was intended for, and even perusing OP's edit history didn't shed any light — however, as it was simply sitting at the top of the page as a standalone comment, it was becoming a "comment" on every new nomination that got added above it, forcing every new nomination to have to be edited to move it again. Accordingly, I've given it a headline to stop that from happening, but it should still be moved if anybody can figure out where it belongs. Bearcat (talk) 14:12, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:People from Guararé
[edit]- Propose merging Category:People from Guararé to Category:People from Guararé District
- Nominator's rationale: Category with just one entry. Lost in Quebec (talk) 13:03, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Rather merge to Category:People from Los Santos Province because Category:People from Guararé District is equally empty. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:33, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Skiers from Shenyang
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Contains no entries. LibStar (talk) 07:10, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment The nominator prematurely emptied this category. Liz Read! Talk! 07:44, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- @LibStar: it wasn't particularly helpful to remove Guo Xinxin prematurely. More importantly, why shouldn't it be merged to the parent categories, instead of deleted? That question also applies to your other manual removals. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:41, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- The article Guo Xinxin contains no citation for being from Shenyang. Applying WP:BURDEN. LibStar (talk) 09:48, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Fair point. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:35, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- The article Guo Xinxin contains no citation for being from Shenyang. Applying WP:BURDEN. LibStar (talk) 09:48, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:35, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:People from Kangping County
[edit]- Propose merging Category:People from Kangping County to Category:People from Shenyang
- Nominator's rationale: Only 1 entry in this category. LibStar (talk) 06:52, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:43, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:People from Faku County
[edit]- Propose merging Category:People from Faku County to Category:People from Shenyang
- Nominator's rationale: Only 1 entry in this category. LibStar (talk) 06:51, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:44, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:American expatriate soccer players in Turkey
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Per multiple discussions, triple-intersection soccer categories are not to be used. See: [10] . BlameRuiner (talk) 06:24, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Oppose; this is part of a very large category tree of expatriate sportspeople.Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:55, 16 September 2024 (UTC)- In fact there isn't a large category tree of expatriate soccer people. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:07, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle, oh I see now. Thanks for the clarification! In which case I'm neutral. Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:28, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- In fact there isn't a large category tree of expatriate soccer people. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:07, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Shouldn't it be merged to Category:American expatriate sportspeople in Turkey? Shouldn't volleyball and basketball categories be nominated too? Marcocapelle (talk) 09:46, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 18:35, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge/diffuse to Category:American expatriate soccer players and Category:American expatriate sportspeople in Turkey, which is how we usually categorise such people, and then delete. Having such a narrow triple-intersection is not needed - and I agree the same principles should apply to other sports. GiantSnowman 18:37, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge/diffuse per GiantSnowman's reasoning and breakdown above.
Category:Dumbest Wikipedians
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Fails WP:USERCAT for lacking any discernible collaborative function. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:37, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:56, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- I don't really understand why, since this is under the subcategory of Wikipedians, and also has the humor template box. The userbox on the page was from an editable userbox template, so it can't really be deleted. It's a humorous user category that users can add to their page, and I don't see a problem with it. From Rushpedia, the free stupid goofball (talk) 16:11, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:25, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment There is an accompanying userbox that probably should be tagged for deletion or this category might just get recreated if it gets deleted. Liz Read! Talk! 07:46, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- I wouldn't mind deleting the userbox, but, generally, there are many more userboxes than user categories anyway, so it is not a compelling argument. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:50, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Animated television series about hippopotamuses
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Better title, as there is only one extant Wikipedia article about a live action television series about hippopotamuses, Potamus Park. FilmandTVFan50 (talk) 01:12, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Meanwhile there are six articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:27, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
September 15
[edit]Category:Scholastic Confucianism in Korea
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Scholastic Confucianism in Korea to Category:Scholastic Confucianism
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's no need to have this category with a single page in it. It's just not helpful for navigation. The page is already in Korean Confucianism Mason (talk) 21:26, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:28, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Israeli philosophy
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This is a redudant category layer that isn't helpful for navigation. There isn't a Israeli philosophy page. Mason (talk) 20:35, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. There are quite a few siblings that can be deleted for the same reason. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:47, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep There is a Category:Philosophy by country (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) and Category:Israeli philosophy (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) fits very niicely into that structure. However the category Category:Israeli philosophy (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) only has one sub-category so it is not very useful at the moment, so I can agree with the argument as to why it should be deleted. Isoceles-sai (talk) 10:32, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Medieval mosques
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Mosques completed in the 1090s to Category:Religious buildings and structures completed in the 1090s and Category:11th-century mosques
- Propose merging Category:Mosques completed in 1092 to Category:Religious buildings and structures completed in 1092 and Category:11th-century mosques
- Propose merging Category:Mosques completed in the 1120s to Category:Religious buildings and structures completed in the 1120s and Category:12th-century mosques
- Propose merging Category:Mosques completed in 1124 to Category:Religious buildings and structures completed in 1124 and Category:12th-century mosques
- Propose merging Category:Mosques completed in the 1160s to Category:Religious buildings and structures completed in the 1160s and Category:12th-century mosques
- Propose merging Category:Mosques completed in 1163 to Category:Religious buildings and structures completed in 1163 and Category:12th-century mosques
- Propose merging Category:Mosques completed in the 1210s to Category:Religious buildings and structures completed in the 1210s and Category:13th-century mosques
- Propose merging Category:Mosques completed in 1213 to Category:Religious buildings and structures completed in 1213 and Category:13th-century mosques
- Propose merging Category:Mosques completed in the 1220s to Category:Religious buildings and structures completed in the 1220s and Category:13th-century mosques
- Nominator's rationale: merge, these are mostly one-article isolated categories, not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:55, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment {{clc}} check here. ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 11:51, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge 11th & 12th centuries only - that is, the first 6 categories in the proposal. Looking at Mosques by year of completion, most year-cats up to the 20th century have 1-3 articles. Looking laterally on either side of 15th-century mosques, all century-cats from the 13th century onward have at least 9 decade-cats, and most decade-cats from the 13th to the mid 19th century have 1-3 year-cats. The 11th & 12th centuries are the most barren outliers, with 1 and 2 decade-cats respectively, only 3 year-cats between them, and so are a better cutoff point than the 15th century. The next cohort to consider, if at all, is from the 13th to the 19th century, and should not be split arbitrarily at the 15th century. ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 13:14, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think it is a good idea to keep very poorly-populated decade categories in the 13th to 15th century. That may change from the 16th century onwards. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:37, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Films directed by Vincent Moon
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: The subject article was deleted at AFD. Graham87 (talk) 17:31, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Two of the three articles in the category refer to music videos in an article about the song. The third (and the redirect) refer to documentaries about bands. This might have been too small even if the article about the director had not been deleted. Walsh90210 (talk) 20:06, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Cultural depictions of Ken Griffey Jr.
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Delete; only one category and one article. Both are in appropriate subcats of Category:Baseball culture so no need to merge. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:34, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. On top of that Ken Griffey is just one of many appearances in the article. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:49, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Rugby league plays
[edit]- Propose splitting Category:Rugby league plays to Category:Rugby league mass media and Category:Plays about sport
- Nominator's rationale: Dual merge with no objection to recreate if there is more. Only two articles. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:26, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:51, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Lighthouse of Alexandria
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: delete, not a defining characteristic of the articles in this category. It rather is a "what links here" collection. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:07, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 08:51, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose It covers the lighthouse's architect Sostratus of Cnidus, its destruction in the 1303 Crete earthquake, several attempts at duplication, and depictions in fiction. Dimadick (talk) 05:10, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- 1303 Crete earthquake is a good example, its epicenter wasn't in Egypt, it caused damage all over Crete and Egypt. Lighthouse of Alexandria really isn't a defining characteristic of this earthquake. This applies similarly to the other articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:54, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment A majority of the (now-13) articles should be removed, or moved to a new Cultural depictions of the Lighthouse of Alexandria if consensus for such a category exists. I'm not sure there will be more than 3 articles left when that is done. Walsh90210 (talk) 19:59, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:People with cervical spine fracture
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: A hodge-podge of people who died by hanging or other trauma, people who were paralyzed from an injury, and people who suffered a minor injury. Generally not a defining characteristic. Walsh90210 (talk) 04:41, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- If there are people who died by hanging in this category they should be purged. I do not have an opinion about the proposed deletion. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:15, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Lean delete; if kept, people who died by hanging should be purged at the very least. Omnis Scientia (talk) 08:33, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Wikipedia non-empty soft redirected categories
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: See discussion at Template talk:Category redirect#Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories which are double redirects – the Wikipedia prefix is not needed here and renaming promotes consistency with Category:Non-empty disambiguation categories. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:28, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 12:45, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose This is used by bots which you will break by moving. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 08:55, 17 September 2024 (UTC).
- Which bots, Rich Farmbrough? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 19:59, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, duh. R'n'B, is this rename going to make life super difficult for you? I do think if it is a matter of changing a single line of code we should do it to be consistent with Category:Non-empty disambiguation categories, but if it would be a pain I completely and sincerely understand :) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:28, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Nope, not at all. However, I can't speak for any other bot operator. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 01:11, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry I did not see RussBot in the category text, since I'm used to seeing bots mentioned in one of the category banners, like on WikiProject banners without banner shells. But, since it's ok for RussBot, and no other bots/ops are listed on the category, I think it's ok to rename. ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 11:42, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Nope, not at all. However, I can't speak for any other bot operator. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 01:11, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, duh. R'n'B, is this rename going to make life super difficult for you? I do think if it is a matter of changing a single line of code we should do it to be consistent with Category:Non-empty disambiguation categories, but if it would be a pain I completely and sincerely understand :) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:28, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Which bots, Rich Farmbrough? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 19:59, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Don Young
[edit]- Propose deleting Category:Don Young (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Barney Frank (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:John Dingell (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Ted Stevens (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Glenn Youngkin (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Terry Branstad (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Mark Meadows (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Tim Walz (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Joe Manchin (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Jamie Whitten (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Practically everything in each of these categories is not "defined" by the politician, and are better served as just being interlinked. The bulk of each page are just the elections they were in or a thing named after the person. They're all made by the same category creator. Mason (talk) 21:41, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:52, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep There are a variety of reasons why I made these. Some of them were extremely long serving politicians, many of them are really significant names in their areas. Young and Stevens have dates and places named after themselves. Barney Frank is a significant LGBT figure. Walz is literally the Democratic nominee for VP. Youngkin has his own article for his tenure as governor. Manchin has his own article for his own political positions. You have to keep them. Keep all of these. Vinnylospo (talk) 17:18, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- The question at stake is not how important they are. The question is if a fair amount of spin-off articles about them personally exist, next to the main article. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:32, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep I want to keep some of these because honestly. I just feel like all of the pages or categories I try to make often get removed. This is all in good faith. I seriously don’t mean any harm. When I make these articles, I have a real sense of accomplishment. I get really upset when this stuff gets removed. It almost feels like I wasted my time and I feel like no matter how often I try, I feel it leaves no impact and it’s removed. I’m just rambling here. I’m just very upset. Please don’t take any of this wrong. I really love making articles. It’s truly my passion. But how can I feel comfortable creating when I sometimes feel my work will get removed regardless? Vinnylospo (talk) 06:44, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Please don't double vote Mason (talk) 20:24, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:35, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, including the category for the Democrat candidate for V.P. A concern: only the Don Young link works to bring editors here from the category pages, not everyone who will look for this nomination will find it. Took me awhile. Please either fix that and re-set the time period or consider vacating this nomination, thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:31, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Will do. How do I make sure it focuses on the category? Vinnylospo (talk) 14:53, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- At the very least these categories need a major purge. Mason (talk) 20:25, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will fix the links to this nomination.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:35, 15 September 2024 (UTC)- Keep The election they were in should be covered by eponymous categories. Vinnylospo is doing necessary work here. Dimadick (talk) 12:54, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep These seem as reasonable as other categories in Category:Wikipedia categories named after American politicians. Why would there be categories for Michael Bennet or Philip Hart but not Tim Walz? I can't support a bulk nomination here. Some of the entries in these categories can be removed, but Category:Jamie Whitten is the only one that seems likely to be small enough to be deleted as a WP:SMALLCAT after doing so. Walsh90210 (talk) 19:48, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- 'Keep if we are going to do these eponymous categories. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 09:01, 17 September 2024 (UTC).
Category:Chemical looping technologies
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Chemical looping technologies to Category:Chemical process engineering
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. There are one two pages in this category, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 12:01, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom, though I am not sure if Category:Chemical process engineering or Category:Chemical processes is the right target. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:25, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- I wasn't really sure either, so any content experts would be much appreciated! Mason (talk) 17:53, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will drop a note at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chemistry.
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- Keep, with potential rename to expand scope slightly for inclusion of additional related articles. I've never heard the phrase "chemical looping", but I know that pressure swing adsorption, anthraquinone process, and several decaffeination processes are all a comparable concept. Maybe something with "cycle" rather than "loop" is better? These are all like a catalytic cycle, but where the cycle is interrupted by time and/or place instead of a one-pot type of process. Thanks for the WPCHEM ping, HouseBlaster! DMacks (talk) 06:52, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- @DMacks: so how exactly should this be renamed? And which other articles can be added after renaming? Marcocapelle (talk) 08:03, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- As I said, I'm not sure of the name. I'm in the chemistry world, not engineering, so I don't know if engineers have a more-general term here. In addition to the three articles I already mentioned, also sulfur–iodine cycle (and other thermochemical cycles) and Girdler sulfide process come to mind. DMacks (talk) 08:44, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! It hadn't even occurred to me that this is about engineering rather than about chemistry. I left a notification at the WikiProject Engineering talk page. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:57, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- You're welcome! I looked up some likely synonym/descriptor phrases, and couldn' find anything else consistent. "Loop" in the context of reactor design seems to have several distinct modes (closed vs open; but a flow reactor might be a loop but not have discrete reaction zones; and component reactions might each be themselves a batch vs continuous). Hopefully some engineering folks can help figure out a reasonable term of art here. DMacks (talk) 17:33, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! It hadn't even occurred to me that this is about engineering rather than about chemistry. I left a notification at the WikiProject Engineering talk page. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:57, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- As I said, I'm not sure of the name. I'm in the chemistry world, not engineering, so I don't know if engineers have a more-general term here. In addition to the three articles I already mentioned, also sulfur–iodine cycle (and other thermochemical cycles) and Girdler sulfide process come to mind. DMacks (talk) 08:44, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- @DMacks: so how exactly should this be renamed? And which other articles can be added after renaming? Marcocapelle (talk) 08:03, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:The Numbers not in Wikidata
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:The Numbers not in Wikidata to Category:The Numbers ID not in Wikidata
- Nominator's rationale: To move where the articles have been recategorized to via the {{Cite The Numbers}} temp. Consistency with Category:The Numbers ID different from Wikidata. Trailblazer101 (talk) 05:51, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy redirect. There's no need to discuss this, especially since the proposed target "rename" already exists as a category, meaning the only thing that needs to happen is a categoryredirect. Bearcat (talk) 13:40, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The rename has already taken place in the template; should we keep a redirect?
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- Redirect per Bearcat, or just delete. I am not sure if a redirect is useful in the first place. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:12, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I should've been more clear with my relisting comment: There is consensus we should either redirect or just delete. Which one should we do?
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- Elaboration of previous comment: if I understand correctly the redirect is not necessary for the template to work properly. So presumably it can be deleted. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:07, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, I just realized this was still up. As the author, this can be speedy deleted as a redirect is not needed. Trailblazer101 (talk) 02:09, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
September 14
[edit]Category:Forestry researcher stubs
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Forestry researcher stubs to Category:Academic biography stubs
- Nominator's rationale: Stub category with fewer than 60 members; upmerge to Category:Academic biography stubs per WP:WPSS procedure. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 20:19, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge, this is a very small stub category. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:08, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Anti-piracy battles involving Great Britain
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: I don't think we need to diffuse by century*nationality intersection, especially given that there are only 4 pages in here Mason (talk) 19:43, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- If merged, also merge to Category:Naval battles involving Great Britain. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:20, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Rodeo in the arts
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Rodeo in the arts to Category:Rodeo
- Nominator's rationale: Merge per WP:NARROWCAT Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:11, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
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- @Marcocapelle: from Speedy Cfd. Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:15, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge for now, almost all are films in their own subcategory. No objection to recreate the category in some form when more non-film articles are available. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:44, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:History of the Jews in the Middle East
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: merge or reverse merge, and keep a redirect, Middle East and West Asia are very overlapping concept. I will tag both categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:47, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. ME includes all of Turkey and Egypt, but not the South Caucasus. WA excludes parts of Turkey and all of Egypt, but includes the South Caucasus. Ergo ME =/= WA.
- I could possibly get behind "Middle East and West Asia", but that's a mouthful. Keeping separate ME and WA lists seems the better alternative. Lewisguile (talk) 12:52, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- ME is a subcat of WA, which is certainly defensible. But much of the content of WA is clearly ME. If we decide what ME actually covers, say it in a note, & rearrange accordingly, won't that fix things? Johnbod (talk) 17:44, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- The three Caucasus countries may or may not belong to either Middle East or West Asia, we can't "decide" that they do belong in West Asia but not in the Middle East. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:29, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- We can and should decide what these terms cover for the purposes of the category, and say that. We should be doing that for all such ambiguous terms, such as Central Europe etc. Otherwise chaos. Johnbod (talk) 11:42, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Oppose, per above, not seeing useful improvement in this proposal. Johnbod (talk) 16:36, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Prehistoric Asia
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Prehistoric Asia to Category:Prehistory of Asia
- Nominator's rationale: merge, it is unclear how the two categories are supposed to be different from each other. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:13, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to the former. Category:Paleontological sites of Asia is not Prehistory in the usual sense, & should be kept out. Johnbod (talk) 17:39, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- The latter is a fair point, I purged this subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:45, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Merge direction? (I will tag Category:Prehistory of Asia.)
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- I don't have a preferred merge direction, maybe User:Nederlandse Leeuw has, one way or the other. I do notice however that not just Asia has this issue, it applies likewise to all other continents. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:29, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Short answer: I'm not sure what to advise here. Seeing my previous proposal for renaming Ancient Fooland to Ancient history of Fooland was a failure, I'm reluctant to to suggest any direction to take into making these catnames more consistent, certainly as long as the main article titles are not in some way WP:TITLECONned first. But that is a discussion that should probably take place elsewhere and not here.
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- Assuming we go for a reverse merge, the list of all continents becomes as follows. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:29, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Prehistory of Africa to Category:Prehistoric Africa
- Propose renaming Category:Prehistory of Antarctica to Category:Prehistoric Antarctica
- Propose merging Category:Prehistory of Asia to Category:Prehistoric Asia
- Propose merging Category:Prehistory of Europe to Category:Prehistoric Europe
- Propose merging Category:Prehistory of North America to Category:Prehistoric North America
- Propose merging Category:Prehistory of Oceania to Category:Prehistoric Oceania
- Propose merging Category:Prehistory of South America to Category:Prehistoric South America
- Comment: There is currently the article title Prehistoric Asia, and also Prehistoric Africa (but "prehistory of Africa" is used in the article body) and Prehistoric Europe. There are no dedicated articles, only redirects, for Prehistoric Oceania/Prehistory of Oceania and Prehistoric South America/Prehistory of South America. Prehistory of North America is a broken redirect to History of North America § The beginning of North America (which is no longer the title of any section of that article); however, Timeline of North American prehistory does exist. There's nothing for Antarctica. Ham II (talk) 17:00, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Chemical compounds by type
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Chemical compounds by type to Category:Chemical compounds by parameter
- Nominator's rationale: The contents of this Category clearly don't fit with the current name: none of them is "by type", as they all use different parameters.
which is what gave me the idea for the proposed rename. Honestly, I'm not entirely sure that's the right name, so if somebody comes up with a better name I'll be more than happy to support. Anomalous+0 (talk) 08:15, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- By property? Remsense ‥ 论 15:23, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- I have seen "by parameter" more often, so it should be ok. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:14, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Remsense: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's comment? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 19:21, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's comment?
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Relisting comment: Still looking for thoughts on Marcocapelle's comment :)
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- @Remsense: we have Category:Categories by parameter but that it is not a good analogy. I could find Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2016_June_24#Category:People_categories_by_parameter. Conclusion from that discussion: "by parameter" wasn't a good suggestion after all. Based on this previous discussion, you can likewise argue that Category:Chemical compounds by type should be merged to Category:Chemical compounds. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:44, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delay. I think since there are only six members, it might be better to upmerge? Remsense ‥ 论 21:56, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah right. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:59, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delay. I think since there are only six members, it might be better to upmerge? Remsense ‥ 论 21:56, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
Greek mythology by region
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Aeginetan mythology (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Mythology of Aegina
- Propose renaming Category:Aetolian mythology (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Mythology of Aetolia
- Propose renaming Category:Attic mythology (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Mythology of Attica
- Propose renaming Category:Eleusinian mythology (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Mythology of Elefsina
- Propose renaming Category:Boeotian mythology (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Mythology of Boeotia
- Propose renaming Category:Theban mythology (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Mythology of Thebes, Greece
- Propose renaming Category:Locrian mythology (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Mythology of Locris
- Propose renaming Category:Corcyraean mythology (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Mythology of Corfu
- Propose renaming Category:Cretan mythology (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Mythology of Crete
- Propose renaming Category:Cypriot mythology (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Mythology of Cyprus
- Propose renaming Category:Epirotic mythology (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Mythology of Epirus
- Propose renaming Category:Arcadian mythology (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Mythology of Arcadia, Peloponnese
- Propose renaming Category:Troezenian mythology (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Mythology of Troezen
- Propose renaming Category:Corinthian mythology (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Mythology of Corinthia
- Propose renaming Category:Elean mythology (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Mythology of Elis
- Propose renaming Category:Laconian mythology (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Mythology of Laconia
- Propose renaming Category:Messenian mythology (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Mythology of Messenia
- Propose renaming Category:Rhodian mythology (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Mythology of Rhodes
- Propose renaming Category:Salaminian mythology (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Mythology of Salamis Island
- Propose renaming Category:Thessalian mythology (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Mythology of Thessaly
- Propose renaming Category:Pierian mythology (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Mythology of ancient Pieria
- Nominator's rationale: These categories are for mythology relating to the places rather than mythology necessarily originating in those places, as the current titles imply. There are many Greek myths about places didn't originate in those places and many for which it is impossible to know where the myths originated. Some of the subcategories of Category:Greek mythology by region already follow the proposed naming convention. Mclay1 (talk) 12:29, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Is "Mythology of X" any better a naming convention? To me that implies that it's mythology from that place just as much as "X-ian mythology" does. Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 08:21, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'd say the proposed names work for both much more than the current names. I'm open to suggestions, however. Mclay1 (talk) 11:49, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- Is "Mythology of X" any better a naming convention? To me that implies that it's mythology from that place just as much as "X-ian mythology" does. Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 08:21, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. The rationale proposes a distinction without a difference. Additionally, renaming these will make them harder to search for, since there are already too many entries for "Mythology" to display in the search window, while most of the articles using demonyms appear right away when someone starts to type them. Consistency is not a strong argument when balanced against convenience. A handful of these names may not be familiar to readers, but readers who are familiar enough with the topics to be searching for them would probably recognize them; and many of the proposed names are equally objectionable.
- For instance, "Mythology of Elefsina", rather than "Eleusis", since inexplicably the entire history of ancient Eleusis is covered under the unrecognizable modern name of the town; "Mythology of Corfu", as though "Corfu" were the name of a place one encounters in classical history or mythology; "Mythology of Corinthia", when "Corinthia" is the name of a modern administrative region of Greece that did not exist in antiquity; "Mythology of Arcadia, Peloponnese", as though any other Arcadia would have distinctive mythological topics; "Mythology of Salamis Island", when Salamis was never so called "Salamis Island" in antiquity and will not generally be encountered under that name, and there is no corresponding mythological topic for the other Salamis, in Cyprus. P Aculeius (talk) 12:43, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- Categories are not named based on the convenience of searching for the category name; most readers are not finding categories that way, and helping users get to them quickly is not a consideration. First and foremost should be accuracy, and these current names are not accurate. There is a distinction between the mythology relating to a place and the local mythology of the people from that place, but there is of course overlap and the proposed names work for both.
- Secondly, using the modern names of the places would be consistent with the rest of the category trees for those places (we use "Greece" and not "Hellas"); however, if it would be better to use the ancient names of the places, we can do that rather than discarding the entire rename for that reason.
- To address two specific ones: Corinthia is used for the ancient region (see Regions of ancient Greece#Corinthia), and the disambiguation in the category tree for Category:Arcadia, Peloponnese is necessary to distinguish it from other places called Arcadia. We generally keep subcategory names consistent for clarity even if they wouldn't be ambiguous. Just because we don't currently have mythology categories for other places of the same name, doesn't mean it wouldn't be confusing without disambiguation. Mclay1 (talk) 11:48, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- I will concede that the searching convenience is not a strong argument for categories, the way it would be with article titles. But the proposed titles are still counter-intuitive, so it is not entirely irrelevant; and if your argument is for consistency, then both categories including the subject and their corresponding articles should begin with the name of the place represented, rather than a generic word such as "mythology". When you're researching mythological subjects, do you look under "Greek Mythology" or "Mythology of Ancient Greece"? "Norse Mythology" or "Mythology of the Norse?"
- There may be an argument to make for moving some of these titles, where the demonym is not as familiar as the name of the place, e. g. "Mythology of Cyprus, Epirus, Salamis" may be more logical than "Cypriot, Epirot, Salaminian mythology", but this would be the case for only a few of them, which again demonstrates that consistency, while not entirely irrelevant, is less helpful for determining titles than natural language.
- With respect to the modern names, they are simply anachronistic in speaking of subjects from antiquity, and virtually all scholarship written in English over the last three centuries will use Greek- and Roman-era names in preference to modern ones. In some cases such as "Greece", there is a further convention of Anglicization, but it forms on the Roman-era "Graecia" rather than Greek "Hellas". But you will have trouble finding any scholarship referring to the "Elefsinian mysteries", or similar descriptions, and if there is any, it will probably be in recent translations of modern Greek works.
- I will retract my criticism of "Corinthia", finding that the term is used for the territory belonging to Corinth in antiquity. However, "Corfu" is as anachronistic as "Elefsina" and even less recognizable; and consistency within category trees is a weak argument for disambiguation when there is no risk of confusion. Nobody says "Arcadia, Peloponnese" or "Salamis Island", and there is no need to do so in these category names just because disambiguation is unavoidable in other contexts.
- It's not merely that we don't currently have categories for mythology of other, similarly-named places, but that it is unlikely that such categories would exist in the first place. For instance, the Salamis in Cyprus would presumably be covered under the mythology of Cyprus; and there is no other ancient Arcadia that would have any distinct mythology; the barely-known Cretan town is usually called "Arcades", and other places called "Arcadia" were not established or did not bear the name until after paganism was stamped out. The strongest argument for disambiguation would be "Thebes, Greece", but the corresponding article and category on the mythology of Thebes in Egypt are under "Theban Triad". There is not much risk of confusion, and a hatnote would probably be sufficient to help anyone who arrives at the wrong topic.
- To re-iterate, consistency is not a strong argument for renaming categories that are already unambiguous, particularly when the extant names are what readers would most likely expect to find; and in many cases renaming them to be consistent with each other would make them inconsistent with article titles that readers would expect to encounter. It would be better to deal with these on a case-by-case basis. P Aculeius (talk) 14:12, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
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- I do not have an opinion about "fooian" versus "of foo", generally, but I concur with P Aculeius that we should not use modern names when it conflicts with common names of ancient Greece as used by classical scholars. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:03, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:DC Comics animated series title cards
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Both cover the exact same scope as these title cards are just the on-screen logos and have overlapping descriptions and categories. Cats are not too big to warrant separate ones over a technicality, which can be confusing, especially when both have logo and title card/intertitle-named files. Trailblazer101 (talk) 02:34, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Video games about aircraft
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Video games about aircraft to Category:Aviation video games
- Nominator's rationale: These are overlapping categories. THe merge target is older and was merged into this one outside of the cfd process. Mason (talk) 00:24, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment These cannot be overlapping categories as Category:Aviation video games currently does not contain any content. I also believe you are saying I should have renamed Category:Aviation video games rather than creating a new category. Though these two categories are technically different, as the name and subcategories have or had a different structure, also Category:Helicopter video games wasn't a part of Category:Aviation video games before I redirected the category. Furthermore the category Category:Video games about aircraft is very small, just saying. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 02:22, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- You removed all the content from the Aviation category. All of the excuses/explanations you've listed does not justify circumventing the CFD process. Mason (talk) 16:42, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 08:29, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, the original category of Category:Aviation video games was always too small, overly-vague, and conflicted with Category:Flight simulation video games. It is a better idea to instead just delete both Category:Aviation video games and Category:Video games about aircraft.
- QuantumFoam66 (talk) 20:39, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment These cannot be overlapping categories as Category:Aviation video games currently does not contain any content. I also believe you are saying I should have renamed Category:Aviation video games rather than creating a new category. Though these two categories are technically different, as the name and subcategories have or had a different structure, also Category:Helicopter video games wasn't a part of Category:Aviation video games before I redirected the category. Furthermore the category Category:Video games about aircraft is very small, just saying. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 02:22, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. The right process is to request a rename at this forum. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:22, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment The current name of category actually works better, especially because it is a child category of Category:Video games about vehicles. When the page Category:Video games about aircraft is deleted and merged, we will have to rename the category to the original name I desired. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 04:12, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- It is irrelevant that the current name works better. You should have proposed a rename instead of recreating a category. Mason (talk) 16:43, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- I was actually going to say that first because I changed my mind. We're doing any of that. We'll just merge it instead and leave it as is. The category is very small though. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 17:09, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Why would you think that the size of the category is relevant? It doesn't matter about the size. The problem is that you're circumventing the process. Mason (talk) 19:46, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- I was actually going to say that first because I changed my mind. We're doing any of that. We'll just merge it instead and leave it as is. The category is very small though. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 17:09, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- It is irrelevant that the current name works better. You should have proposed a rename instead of recreating a category. Mason (talk) 16:43, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment The current name of category actually works better, especially because it is a child category of Category:Video games about vehicles. When the page Category:Video games about aircraft is deleted and merged, we will have to rename the category to the original name I desired. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 04:12, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Not all flight simulation games are about aircraft. Apparently some people don't realize that things that can fly, but are not aircraft also feature in games, such as dragon riding, bird riding, and other manner of fantastical creatures. Therefore, games about aircraft and flight simulators should be separate categories. Rather, delete Category:Aviation video games as overly vague. I am also concerned about the tree of Category:Works about aviation and whether that is vague and overlapping. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:34, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- I do not have an issue with converting "aviation" to "aircraft". The discussion is mainly about proper procedure. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:08, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- This CfD process has been a disaster. Finding a non-vehicle based-simulator under Category:Flight simulation video games category is like finding a needle in a haystack, Category:Video games about aircraft will end up being a largely-overlapping category with Category:Flight simulation video games. So it is a better idea to just delete both Category:Aviation video games and Category:Video games about aircraft.
- QuantumFoam66 (talk) 23:17, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
September 13
[edit]LGBT articles
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:LGBT-owned businesses in Oregon to Category:LGBTQ-owned businesses in Oregon
- Propose renaming Category:LGBT-owned businesses in Washington (state) to Category:LGBTQ-owned businesses in Washington (state)
- Propose renaming Category:LGBT-related adaptations of works by William Shakespeare to Category:LGBTQ-related adaptations of works by William Shakespeare
- Propose renaming Category:LGBT-related albums to Category:LGBTQ-related albums
- Propose renaming Category:LGBT-related animated films to Category:LGBTQ-related animated films
- Propose renaming Category:LGBT-related animated series to Category:LGBTQ-related animated series
- Propose renaming Category:LGBT-related animated superhero films to Category:LGBTQ-related animated superhero films
- Propose renaming Category:LGBT-related animated television episodes to Category:LGBTQ-related animated television episodes
- Propose renaming Category:LGBT-related animated web series to Category:LGBTQ-related animated web series
- Nominator's rationale: This is batch number 2 (following batch 1) of a bunch of category renames following Talk:LGBTQ#Requested move 14 August 2024, which moved LGBT to LGBTQ. Because similar moves were opposed at CFD, these are being nominated here versus CFDS. However, the rationale is still the same: rename per WP:C2D and WP:CONSUB.
I would ask that we not try to delete/merge/etc. any of these categories. That can be the subject of a further nomination. Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:48, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. Some of the pages in these categories have already been updated, so consistency is better as per WP:CONSUB. Lewisguile (talk) 08:05, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. Raladic (talk) 23:03, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:18, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:23, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. Makes sense for categories to align with the title of the main article. Best, Reading Beans 11:12, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Rename per nom.--Trystan (talk) 15:47, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 23:26, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose them all. Again, the article should've remained at LGBT, so don't fuck this up further. LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 05:57, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- @LilianaUwU, please keep this civil. This move is in line with Wikipedia policy where, as a general rule with a few exceptions, categories should match the article. This Cfd isn't the place to discuss your objection to the article move. You can do that on the LGBTQ article talk page. Regards, Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:59, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- I find this bundling too large; but only regarding actors, there is apparently a difference of approach between Category:Queer_pornographic_film_actors and Category:LGBT_pornographic_film_actors, so if you
hadadd Q to the latter, I am a bit confused, and the reader too, I suppose. ThereforeOppose.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:28, 15 September 2024 (UTC) (Neutral).-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:05, 16 September 2024 (UTC)- @Mushy Yank - That queer category you pointed out is a sub-category of the LGBT category you also referenced, which has 5 sub-categories for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and queer.
- This is quite common as the whole category tree is built like this, more general overall categories and more precise subcategories. So if anything, renaming this LGBT one you pointed out should always have included the Q, given that it has a specific subcategory for queer actors. Raladic (talk) 22:49, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- OK, thanks. So, if there"s no semantic change intended (ie include what is defined as strictly "queer" in a broader LGBT category) but a simple change of term for the most general label, maybe that is OK. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:03, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Rename per above. --MikutoH talk! 00:46, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- What about "LGBTQ+"? Americanfreedom (talk) 16:28, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Rename with redirects being left behind, per discussion on batch #1. ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 15:07, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Links to all three batches for navigation: 1, 2, 3. ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 15:07, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support, though I agree that redirects should be left in place. This has already been discussed to death, and was settled when the page finally got moved several weeks back — but since some of the categories in this tree got speedy moved before the objection was raised, meaning that some are at LGBTQ while others are still at LGBT, it has become an incredibly disruptive burden to have to manually determine whether any individual category is at "LGBTQ" or just "LGBT" before adding it to an article, which is a dumpster fire I have no responsibility to put up with any further. Bearcat (talk) 16:03, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Transgender and medicine
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Transgender and medicine to Category:Transgender medicine
- Nominator's rationale: Transgender is an adjective, does not make grammatical sense. Ranleo09 (talk) 22:00, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Rename to Category:Transgender health care to match what I'd suspect is the main article for the category - Transgender health care, so we might as well make it eponymous and have the category match it. It already appears to be the main article in the Template:Transgender topics for the health care/medicine section. Raladic (talk) 23:11, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support Category:Transgender health care per Raladic. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:25, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support Category:Transgender health care, also per Raladic. Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty 🏳️⚧️ Averted crashes 23:29, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support alt rename per Raladic. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:00, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Transgender in Russia
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Category is the same as Category:Russian transgender people. Transgender is also an adjective, not a noun. Transgender what in Russia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ranleo09 (talk • contribs) 21:55, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support, considering that the topic article Koekchuch is also in Category:Russian transgender people. (If just the name of the category would have been the issue, all subcategories of Category:Transgender by country should be nominated together.) Marcocapelle (talk) 03:36, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
People of Middle Eastern descent
[edit]- Propose merging Category:People of Middle Eastern descent to Category:People of West Asian descent
- Propose merging Category:Asian people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Asian people of West Asian descent
- Propose merging Category:European people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:European people of West Asian descent
- Propose renaming Category:North American people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:North American people of West Asian descent
- Propose merging Category:Argentine people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Argentine people of West Asian descent
- Propose renaming Category:Australian people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Australian people of West Asian descent
- Propose merging Category:Brazilian people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Brazilian people of West Asian descent
- Propose renaming Category:Danish people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Danish people of West Asian descent
- Propose renaming Category:Iranian people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Iranian people of West Asian descent
- Propose merging Category:Iraqi people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Iraqi people of West Asian descent
- Propose merging Category:Lebanese people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Lebanese people of West Asian descent
- Propose renaming Category:Pakistani people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Pakistani people of West Asian descent
- Propose renaming Category:Qatari people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Qatari people of West Asian descent
- Propose merging Category:Saudi Arabian people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Saudi Arabian people of West Asian descent
- Propose renaming Category:Bosnia and Herzegovina people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Bosnia and Herzegovina people of West Asian descent
- Propose renaming Category:British people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:British people of West Asian descent
- Propose renaming Category:Scottish people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Scottish people of West Asian descent
- Propose renaming Category:Greek people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Greek people of West Asian descent
- Propose renaming Category:Irish people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Irish people of West Asian descent
- Propose merging Category:Polish people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Polish people of West Asian descent
- Propose merging Category:Serbian people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Serbian people of West Asian descent
- Propose renaming Category:Slovenian people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Slovenian people of West Asian descent
- Propose renaming Category:Spanish people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Spanish people of West Asian descent
- Propose renaming Category:Yugoslav people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Yugoslav people of West Asian descent
- Propose renaming Category:American people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:American people of West Asian descent
- Propose merging Category:Canadian people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Canadian people of West Asian descent
- Propose renaming Category:Dominican Republic people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Dominican Republic people of West Asian descent
- Propose renaming Category:Mexican people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Mexican people of West Asian descent
- Nominator's rationale: Follow-up of Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 August 27#Category:Middle Eastern diaspora. I have already manually merged and redirected many Middle Eastern descent categories into West Asian descent categories. Only now have I realized that their history may also need to be merged. Below is the list --Sakakami (talk) 09:40, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose all – the term “Middle Eastern” even if not necessarily geographically correct; is a lot more widely used than “West Asian”, therefore, I oppose the renames. Hurricane Clyde 🌀my talk page! 03:34, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Category:Israeli people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Israeli people of West Asian descent
- Category:Syrian people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Syrian people of West Asian descent
- Category:Uruguayan people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Uruguayan people of West Asian descent
- Category:Indian people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Indian people of West Asian descent
- Category:Japanese people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Japanese people of West Asian descent
- Category:Croatian people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Croatian people of West Asian descent
- Category:Turkish people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Turkish people of West Asian descent
- Category:Malaysian people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Malaysian people of West Asian descent
- Category:Hong Kong people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Hong Kong people of West Asian descent
- Category:Jordanian people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Jordanian people of West Asian descent
- Category:Filipino people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Filipino people of West Asian descent
- Category:Palestinian people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Palestinian people of West Asian descent
- Category:Russian people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Russian people of West Asian descent
- Category:Indonesian people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Indonesian people of West Asian descent
- Category:Chinese people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Chinese people of West Asian descent
- Category:Armenian people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Armenian people of West Asian descent
- Category:Ethiopian people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Ethiopian people of West Asian descent
- Category:French people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:French people of West Asian descent
- Category:Burmese people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Burmese people of West Asian descent
- Category:Algerian people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Algerian people of West Asian descent
- Category:Thai people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Thai people of West Asian descent
- Category:Belizean people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Belizean people of West Asian descent
- Category:Tanzanian people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Tanzanian people of West Asian descent
- Category:Tunisian people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Tunisian people of West Asian descent
- Category:Nigerian people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Nigerian people of West Asian descent
- Category:New Zealand people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:New Zealand people of West Asian descent
- Category:Moroccan people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Moroccan people of West Asian descent
- Category:German people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:German people of West Asian descent
- Category:Libyan people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Libyan people of West Asian descent
- Category:Taiwanese people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Taiwanese people of West Asian descent
- Category:Ghanaian people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Ghanaian people of West Asian descent
- Category:Emirati people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Emirati people of West Asian descent
- Category:Peruvian people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Peruvian people of West Asian descent
- Category:Singaporean people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Singaporean people of West Asian descent
- Category:Malagasy people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Malagasy people of West Asian descent
- Category:Ukrainian people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Ukrainian people of West Asian descent
- Category:Egyptian people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Egyptian people of West Asian descent
- Category:Omani people of Middle Eastern descent to Category:Omani people of West Asian descent
- Comment – I understand the rationale, but I find this proposal and the previous ones that went through with very little discussion quite odd. "Middle Eastern" is a far more common term than "West Asian". Is there a reason we need to go that way instead of the reverse? If there are countries in West Asia that don't fit into the Middle East, is it necessary to group every country into a region for ancestry? Mclay1 (talk) 12:43, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Mclay1 – We have categories for Category:People of Central Asian descent, Category:People of East Asian descent, Category:People of South Asian descent and Category:People of Southeast Asian descent. While both Middle East and West Asia are somewhat imprecise, West Asia aligns better with the existing geographic categorization. Middle East is a political term that has changed frequently depending on political and historical contexts, whereas 'West Asia' is a more consistent geographical term. It excludes most of Egypt and the northwestern part of Turkey, while including the southern part of the Caucasus. Additionally, 'West Asia' is arguably a more neutral term; for example, see the WANA Institute in Jordan. Sakakami (talk) 13:31, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Those other Asian regions are common terms, whereas "West Asia" is basically a term created to fill the gap and replace the Middle East for the reasons you mentioned. While that might make sense for geography, I'm not sure it makes sense for ancestry. I doubt many people would consider themselves to be "West Asian" as opposed to Middle Eastern. It feels like we're inventing our own classification system just for the sake of having neat subcategories rather than reflecting outside usage. Mclay1 (talk) 13:42, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hear, hear. And "Middle East", as a term, doesn't necessarily imply the subject is located in Asia, whereas "West Asia" mandates it. As such, "West Asia" would exclude Egypt (Africa) and parts of Turkey (Europe), whereas "Middle East" wouldn't. While there are some places in "West Asia" that aren't in the Middle East, I think the latter category is more elastic by definition, whereas West Asia will always be only in Asia. But I could live with "ME & WA" as a category, or even "NA, ME & WA", but at that point, does it become the "Greater Middle East"? Lewisguile (talk) 07:13, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Those other Asian regions are common terms, whereas "West Asia" is basically a term created to fill the gap and replace the Middle East for the reasons you mentioned. While that might make sense for geography, I'm not sure it makes sense for ancestry. I doubt many people would consider themselves to be "West Asian" as opposed to Middle Eastern. It feels like we're inventing our own classification system just for the sake of having neat subcategories rather than reflecting outside usage. Mclay1 (talk) 13:42, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge or reverse merge, and keep redirects, Middle East and West Asia are largely overlapping. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:42, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- See also this other nomination further above on this page. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:30, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Discussion on merge direction would be appreciated :)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:25, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete the entire category tree Most people wouldn't consider themselves "West Asian" or "middle Eastern" but Arab, Assyrian, Lebanese, etc. Also delete the other Asia region descent categories for the same reason. (t · c) buidhe 23:22, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- While that may be true in some cases, there is often no information about people's ancestors except where they lived. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:40, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- In that case, I struggle to see how it would be defining, given that ancestors are usually WP:NONDEF in any case. (t · c) buidhe 05:41, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Agree on the latter and I would support if you would nominate the entire descent tree, but I guess it is likely that the discussion will end as no consensus. It would also not surprise me if has been tried before to delete this tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:31, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- In that case, I struggle to see how it would be defining, given that ancestors are usually WP:NONDEF in any case. (t · c) buidhe 05:41, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- While that may be true in some cases, there is often no information about people's ancestors except where they lived. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:40, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- I would support Delete the entire category tree as well per WP:NONDEF. --Sakakami (talk) 12:08, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Reverse merge, including the untagged categories in the list above that were manually moved or merged out-of-process. Middle Eastern is the commonly-used term for the ethnicity, as evidenced by the recently-adopted U.S. federal government standards, which added "Middle Eastern or North African" as a race and ethnicity category. - Eureka Lott 16:34, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- This is not a single ethnicity, but rather a category encompassing people descended from West Asian (also known as Middle Eastern) countries. --Sakakami (talk) 12:06, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose merge. I appreciate the good intentions behind the proposal, but the Middle East is a different category than West Asia. It may include nationalities that are otherwise European or African, depending on whether one uses a broad or narrow definition of each. If someone identifies as having Middle Eastern heritage, but their origins are in North Africa or Europe, would we exclude them from the category? It doesn't make sense to me. It seems like an attempt for symmetry regardless of how these categories work in reality.
- That said, I could probably support a combined "Middle East and West Asia" category, but that may be a mouthful. At least no one is left out that way, though. Lewisguile (talk) 12:37, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Lewisguile: if someone identifies as having Middle Eastern heritage, but their origins are in North Africa or Europe, -> can you give some example articles where this applies? Because I don't have a clue yet how it would work. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:50, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Well I was thinking specifically of Egyptians in a list like "People of West Asian descent"—they aren't in West Asia, but are generally considered to be in the Middle East. And vice versa, someone in the South Caucasus might see themselves as West Asian but not Middle Eastern, so they couldn't go in a singular "People of Middle Eastern descent" article. (The former example seems more obviously wrong, though.)
- So replacing one category with the other means those people don't fit the new list so get left off, or we have to shoehorn them into categories where they don't fit. It's not like Egyptians are particularly rare, at any rate.
- The more I think about it, the more I think "Middle East and West Asia" is better than having one category subsume the other, though having two categories still seems the best to me. Lewisguile (talk) 16:16, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Egypt is the only country not in West Asia. Note that WP:OVERLAPCAT does not require two categories to have 100% overlap. A large overlap is sufficient. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:35, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Lewisguile: if someone identifies as having Middle Eastern heritage, but their origins are in North Africa or Europe, -> can you give some example articles where this applies? Because I don't have a clue yet how it would work. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:50, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- This is not a single ethnicity, but rather a category encompassing people descended from West Asian (also known as Middle Eastern) countries. --Sakakami (talk) 12:06, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Readers
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Readers to Category:Linguistics books
- Nominator's rationale: Only one actual page in here. The other is a re-direct. The name is extremely vague. Mason (talk) 00:36, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Just delete, the only article is simply about a book and it is already in Category:Historical linguistics books. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:09, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge. I'm okay sometimes with overly specific categories whose cat name is overly broad, but this cat has got to be some kind of record. please merge!! in other words, please put a redirect there!! because if there is no redirect, then in the future anyone else could take this rather innocuous English word, and pin it on some other category with an either a) strangely obscure scope, or else b) some oddly colloquial usage of this word, out of all of its varied and multiple possible meanings! Sm8900 (talk) 13:17, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- If there's another plausible target for Category:Readers, we could make it a {{category disambiguation}} page instead. jlwoodwa (talk) 04:35, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Consensus seems to favor a change, but what exactly that change should be needs further discussion. Should this category's contents be merged elsewhere, or should the category be deleted? Should a redirect be kept, should it become a {{category disambiguation}}, or should it become a red link?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:15, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- I would not object to a dab or a redirect page except I do not know what the proper target(s) should be for a dab or a redirect. Certainly Category:Linguistics books is not a proper target for that. Maybe just Category:Books? Marcocapelle (talk) 03:46, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Basal readers should be listed on any DAB page. Walsh90210 (talk) 20:12, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- What a terrible name! Is it an American-only term? I've never heard it before. Johnbod (talk) 03:24, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - The proposed merge is inaccurate and I don't really know what target would be accurate. Deletion seems more practical than merging. ArvindPalaskar (talk) 02:40, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete The cat currently contains 2 items, one a redirect to a biography of the author, the other mostly not a "reader" as far as one can tell. By definition "reader" books will struggle to be notable. Johnbod (talk) 03:21, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:People from Lahoma, Oklahoma
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Category with just two entries. Lost in Quebec (talk) 21:05, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:48, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Endemic Fauna of
[edit]- Propose split of Category:Endemic fauna of Angola to Category:Endemic moth species of Angola and Category:Endemic mollusca species of Angola
- Propose split of Category:Endemic fauna of Argentina to Category:Endemic moth species of Argentina
- Propose split of Category:Endemic fauna of Algeria to Category:Endemic moth species of Algeria
- Propose split of Category:Endemic fauna of Australia to Category:Endemic arachnid species of Australia, Category:Endemic dragonfly species of Australia and Category:Endemic moth species of Australia
- Propose split of Category:Endemic fauna of the Bahamas to Category:Endemic mollusca species of the Bahamas
- Propose split of Category:Endemic fauna of Bolivia to Category:Endemic frog species of Bolivia
- Propose split of Category:Endemic fauna of Cameroon to Category:Endemic moth species of Cameroon
- Propose split of Category:Endemic fauna of Chile to Category:Endemic moth species of Chile
- Propose split of Category:Endemic fauna of China to Category:Endemic moth species of China
- Propose split of Category:Endemic fauna of Colombia to Category:Endemic snake species of Colombia, Category:Endemic species frog of Colomiba, and Category:Endemic lizard species of Colombia
- Propose split of Category:Endemic fauna of Costa Rica to Category:Endemic moth species of Costa Rica
- Propose split of Category:Endemic fauna of Cuba to Category:Endemic moth species of Cuba, Category:Endemic lizard species of Cuba, and Category:Endemic frog species of Cuba
- Propose split of Category:Endemic fauna of the Democratic Republic of the Congo to Category:Endemic moth species of the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Category:Endemic beetle species of the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and Category:Endemic butterfly species of the Democratic Republic of the Congo
- Nominator's rationale: Current subcategories can be split even further with a subcategory Category:Endemic Moth Species of (insert country) as a majority of the species listed in these subcategories are moths and in the case of a few of them, even more categories . --YourAverageWeeb (talk) 19:51, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- If the subcategories are proposed to be split, they should be tagged and listed here instead of the parent category. Also please specify the targets, i.e. to which new categories should each of them be split. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:53, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- I have listed some of them although as to not make to massive of an edit I did only up to the DRC YourAverageWeeb (talk) 15:56, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- @YourAverageWeeb: sorry to become a bit technical, but I guess you mean diffusing instead of splitting. 'Split' entails diffusing and deleting the original category afterwards. I don't think you intend the latter. For diffusing only, you do not necessarily have to visit this forum, you can just go ahead per WP:BOLD unless/until someone objects. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:46, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Multiplayer vehicle operation games
[edit]Category:Vehicle simulation games with co-operative control
- Nominator's rationale: current category name does not reflect actual category purpose at all; "multiplayer" can also mean the more general sense of any games with several players. it is vital to change the title, to show some indication of the actual category definition and scope, as being focused on vehicle games with cooperative control of the vehicle, by several players. Sm8900 (talk) 19:36, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Just to clarify the scope - when you say it's a vehicle simulation game, that means it should be primarily that, not just arcade-style driving and shooting guns in co-op. Simulators tend to be about accuracy and comprehensiveness. For example, I wouldn't call the Battlefield series vehicle sims, and with the new name they should probably be excluded. But they fit into the current name. Solidest (talk) 04:12, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Although Wikipedia now has a problem with this distinction. The vehicular combat game and racing game branches are currently referred to as a subtype of vehicle simulation game, although they are clearly not simulation as a whole - the article on racing explicitly states that there is an arcade-style racing genre and a sim racing genre, which is what real simulation is. And arcade-style games are themselves contradictory to the concept described in the simulation video game article. So perhaps this can be ignored here for now, and the problem needs to be addressed at a higher level. Solidest (talk) 04:27, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- ok. in that case, how about " Vehicle cooperative-control operation games"? Sm8900 (talk) 05:11, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Control and operation in this context mean the same thing. I would go with Video games with co-operative vehicle control if you need to include split-screen games, or "Online video games" if not. Solidest (talk) 07:18, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Solidest ok, but sorry, just to clarify, what is the full phrase for option 2, in your comment above? do you meant choice A or choice B below, as the second option?
- Choice A for option 2: Online video games
- Choice B for option 2: Online video games with co-operative vehicle control
- thanks. Sm8900 (talk) 05:00, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- I meant option B. Also given that we have Category:Multiplayer online games, the full variant should probably be "Multiplayer online games with co-operative vehicle control", but I'm not sure if we need to put "multiplayer" explicitly in the title in this case, since "co-op" probably implies it? So we can probably use the root "multiplayer online vgs", but not specify it in the title, staying with "Online video games with co-operative vehicle control". Solidest (talk) 06:21, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Solidest ok, i appreciate your answer. I would like to go with "Video games with co-operative vehicle control." since those games will probably be added periodically, and I don't want to exclude them. thanks! Sm8900 (talk) 10:43, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- by the which ones had a split screen? you may have more knowledge than me, actually. do you mean Space Lords, for example? Sm8900 (talk) 10:49, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Solidest ok, i appreciate your answer. I would like to go with "Video games with co-operative vehicle control." since those games will probably be added periodically, and I don't want to exclude them. thanks! Sm8900 (talk) 10:43, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- I meant option B. Also given that we have Category:Multiplayer online games, the full variant should probably be "Multiplayer online games with co-operative vehicle control", but I'm not sure if we need to put "multiplayer" explicitly in the title in this case, since "co-op" probably implies it? So we can probably use the root "multiplayer online vgs", but not specify it in the title, staying with "Online video games with co-operative vehicle control". Solidest (talk) 06:21, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Solidest ok, but sorry, just to clarify, what is the full phrase for option 2, in your comment above? do you meant choice A or choice B below, as the second option?
- Control and operation in this context mean the same thing. I would go with Video games with co-operative vehicle control if you need to include split-screen games, or "Online video games" if not. Solidest (talk) 07:18, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- ok. in that case, how about " Vehicle cooperative-control operation games"? Sm8900 (talk) 05:11, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support. New name more accurately conveys the initial scope of the category. Solidest (talk) 10:48, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Civic nationalism
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: delete, it is not a defining characteristic of particular political parties. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:22, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete difficult to make a bright line distinction with other types of nationalism, so unsuitable for categorization. Most countries in practice are a mixture of both. (t · c) buidhe 01:05, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Topical postage stamps
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Transport on stamps to Category:Topical postage stamps and Category:Transport in culture
- Propose merging Category:Sport on stamps to Category:Topical postage stamps and Category:Sports culture
- Propose merging Category:Space exploration on stamps to Category:Topical postage stamps and Category:Works about outer space
- Propose merging Category:Plants on stamps to Category:Topical postage stamps and Category:Plants in culture
- Propose merging Category:Animals on stamps to Category:Topical postage stamps and Category:Animals in culture
- Nominator's rationale: Merge all; these categories have three or less items. Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:10, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Shouldn't it be a dual merge? Marcocapelle (talk) 03:56, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle, I wasn't sure about whether stamps can be considered art. I've never heard them described as such. What do you think? Omnis Scientia (talk) 07:31, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Omnis Scientia: I share your hesitation about art. Then the second merge target is better taken a level higher, e.g. "in culture". Marcocapelle (talk) 15:07, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle, yes that works. I'll add the second targets then. Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:37, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Omnis Scientia: I share your hesitation about art. Then the second merge target is better taken a level higher, e.g. "in culture". Marcocapelle (talk) 15:07, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle, I wasn't sure about whether stamps can be considered art. I've never heard them described as such. What do you think? Omnis Scientia (talk) 07:31, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:24, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Transport and Animals – both contain useful subcategories and have potential to grow. Cremastra (talk) 23:36, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:2020–2021 Minneapolis–Saint Paul racial unrest
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: rename per main article title. This is not a case of speedy because the parent category is discussed below. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:57, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:2020–2021 United States racial unrest
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: to align the category's title and scope with the main article United States racial unrest (2020–present). 1857a (talk) 23:40, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- The RM discussion at Talk:United States racial unrest (2020–present) and its closure by User:ClydeFranklin looks odd to me. It seems the arguments are in favor of having it ended in e.g. 2023, while the votes say support "–present". Marcocapelle (talk) 07:20, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Slatersteven, Rreagan007, Parham wiki, Ulysses Grant Official, SpringField23402, Michael21107, and Wispinn: pinging contributors to the RM discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:54, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. It appears there’s still not 100% certainty on the article, from recent discussions to images on the article that still say “-23”. I’d wait until it’s sorted out over there before we make a change. Also, why was I pinged for this issue? I don’t recall ever interacting with anything with this subject. Was I just randomly chosen to be pinged for this or something? I just want to know since this hasn’t really happened to me before. Ulysses Grant Official (talk) 05:51, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Slatersteven, Rreagan007, Parham wiki, Ulysses Grant Official, SpringField23402, Michael21107, and Wispinn: pinging contributors to the RM discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:54, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Yes we have an article, (issues about its name are not for this discussion), But it seems to be that as a category it would be best to have them by year Category:2020–2021 United States racial unrest, Category:2022–2023 United States racial unrest, Category:2024–2025 United States racial unrest so as to not make them unwieldy. Slatersteven (talk) 09:27, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- If we go that route, it should become Category:2020 United States racial unrest, Category:2021 United States racial unrest, etc. With very few exceptions we categorize by calendar year. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:29, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- No issue with that. Slatersteven (talk) 11:37, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's proposal?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:52, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support alt proposal to separate into years. Mclay1 (talk) 07:50, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Originally closed as split; requested by Marcocapelle that I relist the discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 17:56, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- I have just created separate year categories, at least for 2020 and 2021, and these year categories are perfectly fine. But there are also 5 articles and a subcategory that span multiple years, so there is no reason to delete Category:2020–2021 United States racial unrest after the year categories have been created. Note that "split" in CfD jargon means "diffuse, then delete". In this case Category:2020–2021 United States racial unrest is perfectly fine as a parent of the new year categories and for the 5 articles and subcategory that span multiple years. In short: diffuse ok, delete not needed. The only thing I would still change is rename to 2020–2023 or to 2020s. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:06, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
By-state law citation templates
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Illinois law citation templates (1) to Category:United States law citation templates, Category:Illinois law, and Category:Illinois templates
- Propose merging Category:Indiana law citation templates (1) to Category:United States law citation templates, Category:Indiana law, and Category:Indiana templates
- Propose merging Category:Massachusetts law citation templates (1) to Category:United States law citation templates, Category:Massachusetts law, and Category:Massachusetts templates
- Propose merging Category:Nevada law citation templates (1) to Category:United States law citation templates, Category:Nevada law, and Category:Nevada templates
- Propose merging Category:New Jersey law citation templates (1) to Category:United States law citation templates, Category:New Jersey law, and Category:New Jersey templates
- Propose merging Category:Ohio law citation templates (1) to Category:United States law citation templates, Category:Ohio law, and Category:Ohio templates
- Propose merging Category:Texas law citation templates (1) to Category:United States law citation templates, Category:Texas law, and Category:Texas templates
- Propose merging Category:Utah law citation templates (1) to Category:United States law citation templates, Category:Utah law, and Category:Utah templates
- Propose merging Category:West Virginia law citation templates (1) to Category:United States law citation templates, Category:West Virginia law, and Category:West Virginia templates
- Nominator's rationale: Single member categories for templates which impede navigation. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 17:01, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Partial support – in my opinion, I think merging the [insert state] law citation templates category with the [insert state] law category is a good idea. But maybe keep that and the [insert state] templates category separate. That’s my 2¢ anyway. Hurricane Clyde 🌀my talk page! 03:27, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- My reasoning is that I could see a state templates category having stuff that does not necessarily involve state laws. Such as perhaps parks, roads, cities, landmarks, etc. That’s why I think the state templates themselves should remain a separate standalone category.
- Although the other two appear to be redundant to me (at least in my opinion); and should probably be merged. Hurricane Clyde 🌀my talk page! 03:30, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Partial support – in my opinion, I think merging the [insert state] law citation templates category with the [insert state] law category is a good idea. But maybe keep that and the [insert state] templates category separate. That’s my 2¢ anyway. Hurricane Clyde 🌀my talk page! 03:27, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Critics of Black Lives Matter
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OPINIONCAT. Their opinions on this particular social movement are non-defining in the vast majority of cases. User:Namiba 16:43, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:13, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:12, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination.
- Hurricane Clyde 🌀my talk page! 03:31, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Brazilian footballers at FC Shakhtar Donetsk
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Category for a non-defining intersection of traits. While we do have general "[Nationality] expatriate sportspeople in [Other Country]" categories, we do not have any established scheme of microcategorizing them for each specific individual team they may have played for in that other country. Bearcat (talk) 15:18, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:15, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, per nom. Mattythewhite (talk) 20:32, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Weather events with particularly dangerous situation watches
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Category for a non-defining characteristic. A "particularly dangerous situation watch" is just wording that the Weather Service sometimes uses when it sends out a weather alert, so the weather events themselves are not defined by whether the National Weather Service used those particular words or not. Bearcat (talk) 15:14, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Neutral – to be honest, I had created the category because the draft: list of particularly dangerous situation watches wasn’t going anywhere. I’m not going to oppose deletion on this, but I’m not necessarily going to give my explicit support for it either. Hurricane Clyde 🌀my talk page! 15:30, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- And that’s coming from the one who created the category. Hurricane Clyde 🌀my talk page! 15:42, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- I do want to ask though. If this does get deleted; can the deleting administrator please salt the title? Because at least one other person wanted to create the category including @GeorgeMemulous. Hurricane Clyde 🌀my talk page! 17:08, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- And that’s coming from the one who created the category. Hurricane Clyde 🌀my talk page! 15:42, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Neutral – to be honest, I had created the category because the draft: list of particularly dangerous situation watches wasn’t going anywhere. I’m not going to oppose deletion on this, but I’m not necessarily going to give my explicit support for it either. Hurricane Clyde 🌀my talk page! 15:30, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, if even a draft list isn't going anywhere then certainly a category should not be created. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:17, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Medical doctors in British media
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Category for a non-defining intersection of unrelated traits. Medical doctors all over the world frequently appear as talking heads and experts in media coverage of health-related topics and/or moonlight as full-on health journalists themselves, so this would be entirely subjective and unmaintainable: should it contain every medical doctor who has ever appeared in media at all, or is there some specific and arbitrary minimum number of media appearances that a medical doctor has to make before they belong in this category?
So "medical doctors in media" is not a defining intersection of traits in its own right, meaning that no Category:Medical doctors in media parent or "Medical doctors in [Any Other Country] media" siblings exist at all, and Britain doesn't have any special need for this if no other country has such a thing. Bearcat (talk) 15:09, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. This category was created during Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of doctors working in the British media, where myself and another editor favored converting the list into a category. Svampesky (talk) 17:34, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- That doesn't make it okay. If no other country has one of these, then the UK doesn't need it either. Bearcat (talk) 17:37, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep anyway, but we should not be doing a three-card-trick, heads we win, tails you lose shuffle with Afd, as has happened before. Perhaps Afd closers should be made to check whether categories proposed as a solution are viable. For the ones I recognised it was defining, indeed the only reason most are notable - do you have examples where it isn't defining? These can be purged. Johnbod (talk) 17:51, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Again, the issue is WP:OCARBITRARY. To be viable, this category would have to impose a cutoff as to how many times the doctor had appeared in media before the category became warranted, and it would be completely unmaintainable without such an arbitrary cutoff — but we don't allow categories with arbitrary cutoff criteria. Bearcat (talk) 17:38, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Cities formerly served by Chicago and North Western
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Categories for a non-defining characteristic. Per longstanding consensus, we do not categorize cities for their geographic location on railroad lines that serve(d) them -- and if we don't categorize them for current railroad lines, we obviously shouldn't categorize them for former railroad lines either. Absolutely no other "Cities formerly served by X" categories exist at all but these two, and the category system is not The Book of Lists, where you can just use them to create a list of absolutely anything you want a list of: we categorize things by their defining characteristics, not by every individual characteristic they might happen to possess. Bearcat (talk) 14:42, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:21, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete and I'm concerned why these were created in the first place. Walsh90210 (talk) 20:14, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:J. D. Souther albums
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:J. D. Souther albums to Category:JD Souther albums
- Propose renaming Category:J. D. Souther songs to Category:JD Souther songs
- Propose renaming Category:Songs written by J. D. Souther to Category:Songs written by JD Souther
- Nominator's rationale: https://www.jdsouther.net/bio states "Please note that John David Souther is professionally known as JD Souther (not J.D. Souther)." GoingBatty (talk) 13:24, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom. It will align the categories with his article as well. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 17:59, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Economy of the Empire of Brazil
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: WP:C2F. Only contains main article Economy of the Empire of Brazil, which is already in Category:Economies by former country. NLeeuw (talk) 13:07, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:22, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Association football paintings
[edit]- Propose splitting Category:Association football paintings to Category:Association football in art and Category:Sports paintings
- Nominator's rationale: Dual merge; only two articles. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:42, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Question: what is the minimum number of articles required for a category, and which guideline specifies this? Cnbrb (talk) 12:45, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Per various previous discussions, five or six are considered ok, or fewer if there is very clear "potential for growth". No doubt someone has links. Johnbod (talk) 17:18, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- I have actually been trying to find out. Have tried ploughing through WP:CAT but can't anything obvious. A clear guideline would be really useful as this is all a bit vague. We can't expect editors to sift through "previous discussions" to ascertain proper usage. Cnbrb (talk) 10:19, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Johnbod, I did check before nominating the category. There really aren't many articles on sports paintings, most of which are wrestling or boxing. There are a few of rugby football ones but not more association football ones. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:07, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- True; a couple of paintings with "football" in the title are actually rugby or Aussie rules. I thought more might come to light. Cnbrb (talk) 10:19, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Per various previous discussions, five or six are considered ok, or fewer if there is very clear "potential for growth". No doubt someone has links. Johnbod (talk) 17:18, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Question: what is the minimum number of articles required for a category, and which guideline specifies this? Cnbrb (talk) 12:45, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Dual merge per nom, without objection to recreate the category when a few more articles are available. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:24, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Party lists
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Party lists to Category:Lists of political candidates by nationality
- Nominator's rationale: Party lists are also lists of candidates. The distinction between the two categories isn't apparent and thus makes it harder to find similar lists in other countries. Dajasj (talk) 05:58, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Merge, per nom, but then move Category:Candidate lists for European Parliament elections directly under Category:Lists of political candidates.Marcocapelle (talk) 07:37, 13 September 2024 (UTC)- To add to this, State list (Germany) also needs another place Dajasj (talk) 07:53, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Category:Electoral lists The article discussing "party lists" is called "electoral list," so I feel the category should match the article title. I oppose the proposed merge target because it seems more confusing than helpful. (Political parties are not nationalities). - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 18:04, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Hm, this is clearly an unnecessary fork. They should all three be merged together.Marcocapelle (talk) 18:31, 13 September 2024 (UTC)- I disagree. The articles in your proposed target include countries that don't use party list systems (e.g., the United States). "Electoral lists" are lists of candidates in specific systems. It makes sense that we have a category dedicated to these types of lists. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 20:00, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- I agree that the "nationalities" part is also not ideal. But the articles in Category:Electoral lists are a different type of articles, not a list of candidates but a description of a single electoral group. Not sure whether these belong in the same category?Dajasj (talk) 19:08, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- "Party list" is given as type of electoral list in the lead of the article. I guess there's an argument that this category should be a subcategory of Category:Electoral lists, but I don't really see the need for two separate categories here. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 19:56, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Only now I realize there is confusion between Wikipedia lists versus real-life lists (as a topic in its own right). There should be two independent trees after all. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:19, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- "Party list" is given as type of electoral list in the lead of the article. I guess there's an argument that this category should be a subcategory of Category:Electoral lists, but I don't really see the need for two separate categories here. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 19:56, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Your latest changes made it so that Category:Party lists in South African general elections is not part of Category:Lists of political candidates by nationality, which I believe it should be because it is a list of candidates. Dajasj (talk) 06:17, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- No, Category:Lists of political candidates by nationality is for Wikipedia list articles, not for real-life lists like Party lists. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:34, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, but the article is both an overview of real-life lists as well as a Wikipedia list of all candidates. (except for the Philippines for some reason). Dajasj (talk) 07:28, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- No, Category:Lists of political candidates by nationality is for Wikipedia list articles, not for real-life lists like Party lists. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:34, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Your latest changes made it so that Category:Party lists in South African general elections is not part of Category:Lists of political candidates by nationality, which I believe it should be because it is a list of candidates. Dajasj (talk) 06:17, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Shades of black
[edit]- Propose splitting Category:Shades of black to Category:Shades of black and Category:Black (color)
- Nominator's rationale: A black horse is not a shade of color, but color black is a defining characteristic of black horses. (BTW: we should do similarly for other subcats in Category:Shades of color, so that one could properly categorize fauna and flora notably associated with particular colors.) fgnievinski (talk) 03:20, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Just purge, attributing colour to flora, fauna and other stuff becomes too subjective. E.g. Black rain speaks of dark rather than black particulates. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:46, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Just purge all Category:Symbols by color, too? fgnievinski (talk) 07:24, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Bishops of the Catholic Patriotic Association
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Consistent with main category and Chinese Catholic Patriotic Association Amigao (talk) 02:07, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:48, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 13:25, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:African computer businesspeople
[edit]- Propose merging Category:African computer businesspeople to Category:Businesspeople in computing
- Nominator's rationale: upmerge for now. There's no need to diffuse this occupation by continent until it's diffused by nationality Mason (talk) 00:12, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:33, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Older discussions
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