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SomeWiseOutThere

@somewiseoutthere

I always come back ๐Ÿ™‚โ€โ†”๏ธ. Bi Mike truther but idrc. It, stranger things. Please don't be mad abt this lame ass bio lfmao. I lobe yall ๐Ÿ’œ. Tell me anything, I probs have time for you. English and Spanish. She/her

BYLER TUMBLR QUICK GUIDE (renewed)

Hi! Welcome to byler tumblr, dear fella, you are going to have SO much fun here, but you might want to know some things about it...

Unspoken Rules:

-Dont insult ANY of the members of this community, if you want to have beef, this is not the place for it

-Dont post anything inappropiate about byler, remember that if you do someone will send a message and people might block you.

-Dont steal theories

-Be kind! We are just trying to have a safe space for us.

-You need to ship bychance (satire) or at least recognize the 29383 Will's bfs

Byler crisis:

-CONTENT DROUGHT

-BYLER DOUBT:

We are a hive mind, which means if someone has byler doubt, everyone somehow has, these are the common reasons why we have doubt:

-Content drought

-Infiltrated milevens

-No reason, we are just bored

-We had a byler almost confirmation moment, so now we have to compensate

How to survive a BYLER DOUBT crisis:

1- Escape tumblr as soon as possible, it is infected, normally it goes away in 1 day or less, but who knows...

2- Spread byler positivity

3- Watch analysis if you get infected

Now, we got the best part! The GATES (name we use for our theories or memes):

The big four are:

โ€ขFlickergate: Mike and Will kiss in the UD, that's the reason the lights flickered in their first scene.

โ€ขBirthdaygate: Why did a detail-oriented show just forget about such an important thing?

โ€ขLettergate: Mike wrote love letters to Will when he was gone in California

โ€ขPhonegate: Mike did call Will (confirmed)...So why didn't he tell him?

HM: CHURCHGATE: Will tries to choke Mike in a church and Mike confesses

โ€ขยฐโ€ขยฐโ€ขยฐโ€ขยฐโ€ขยฐโ€ขยฐโ€ขยฐโ€ข

LOBEGATE:

It's hard to... understand. Just look it up, you won't regret it

IMPORTANT NOTE: A new gate is created every month, in hope we will get crumbs

Now that we are done with the byler popular gates, let's talk about the icons you might find here:

Our lawyer: @teambyler

Our Book writer: @queerxqueen

Our analyst: @gayofthefae

Hispanic bylers: @brujadejunio @sofixt0k

Fanfic royality: @smoosnoom @astrobei

Byler doubt curer: @nobylerdoubt

(Im sorry I might have forgotten some people, yall are so special to me)

Remember to have fun!

Anonymous asked:

About "Finn liking a lot of mileven posts", this is what I found: https://imgur.com/a/Yv2gQYe

I checked those accounts and he hasn't recently liked mileven content per se. Mostly stuff about his new movie, recent interviews and such. Instagram is pretty much mileven central, so it's kind of inevitable to find them when looking for Finn content. I highly doubt he's exhaustively checking any of these accounts, since some of these are fillies and we know he's uncomfortable with that ship (for good reason), so... ๐Ÿ’€

Yeahh don't worry hehe

Anonymous asked:

hi.finn liked a lot of mileven posts from his fake insta account.Now I'm losing hope in Byler ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ’”

Haha I was exactly like that, you can ask @nobylerdoubt

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Personally, I don't follow along with a lot of what the actors have to say about the story or the characters - that doesn't mean I disregard everything actor's say, but I take it with a grain of salt. What matters at the end of the day is this - what story do the Duffers, the directors, and writers want to tell?

We've heard numerous times and from numerous sources that the Duffers are trying to tell a story about the weirdos and 'freaks'. The outcasts and the underdogs, and overall, Mileven's story doesn't align with those ideals.

For the sake of time, I'm going to assume you know what I mean when I say that, but stay tuned on my blog as I will be doing a lot of analysis posts about Byler, Mileven, foreshadowing, themes, parallels, and more.

What I'll say now is this. This show has been in production for almost 10 years. Finn was apart of this show since he was a little kid. i think seeing posts about not just Mileven, but the show in general, stir up warm feelings for him. I remember the early era of stranger things Mileven was all over the place, and it's highly likely that while Byler wasn't a new development in the history of writing and producing the show, Finn wouldn't have known about it being endgame until Season 4 at the earliest.

It's also more than likely that plot-wise El and Mike end on good terms - they do really love each other, and Mike as a characters would still really value his relationship with El, even if it isn't endgame.

And finally - Finn has to be careful. Byler endgame is going to be the biggest queer relationship/plot twist/reveal, like... ever. This is very hush hush, it's under lockdown. They can't have this getting out before it's time.

In short - Finn isn't writing the show, and at the end of the day what he likes on his personal Instagram don't have an impact on how the actual show will turn out - but Mileven is nostalgic, it's rose-tinted glasses. It's memories of the early days, of how far the show has come, of his childhood. Mike and El's relationship is still very important to Mike as a character even if they aren't meant to be a couple, and all in all, all clues and info on Byler are on lockdown - we can't expect the cast or producers to give us any clear idea on how things are going to play out.

Agreed! Also Finn has said before that heโ€™s not into shipping, so I wouldn't take him liking any posts (Byler or Milkvan) as any proof one way or another. Heโ€™s not a writer on the show. And from what Iโ€™ve seen he seems to appreciate both relationships. He even said at Paris Con that he likes Milkvan because โ€œof the beginning.โ€ And looking back Iโ€™m sure it's connected to a lot of nostalgia for him when he first started the show. Not to mention Milkvan in the beginning was platonic, spare for the kiss in the finale episode. So Finn seems to have a soft spot for Milkvan in Season 1/2, not in the later seasons where they're actually dating.

Also I want to add here some things Finn has said or done that could be seen as in favor of Byler/against Milkvan:

  • When asked Byler related questions he either tends to stumble around them and is unable to answer coherently or starts to smile a lot (I don't ever see him look quite so giddy about questions to do with Milkvan -- I'm talking about the Season 4 interviews specifically). Heโ€™s also described Willโ€™s love for Mike to be a โ€œbeautiful thing.โ€
  • Continues to compares Mike meeting El in Season 1 to coming across ET or a creature. (This means the "I love you" monologue is a lie, he makes it clear that "romance wasn't on [Mike's] mind" when he met El)
  • Has liked Byler fanart (on his official account, mind you) x
  • Continues to use gender neutral language when talking about Mike and his relationships (Actually read this whole post because it will definitely help with Byler doubt if you're concerned about Finn's opinion on Byler/Milkvan)
  • Said Mike 'professed' his love to El. Profess is such an interesting language choice here since most would say "confess." To profess means to claim something that usually isn't true. Finn even flounders for the word choice for a moment, showing he's putting thought into how he's articulating this. See 2:08 here. Also, Finn ad-libbed the โ€œyouโ€™re my superheroโ€ line too which we know has negative implications in the Milkvan relationship.

And as you said above, a Byler endgame is a massive spoiler. One only Noah Schnapp is allowed to somewhat discuss the possibility of given that his character is canonically in love with Mike. And Iโ€™m hard-pressed to believe Noah as an openly gay man would continue to prop up Byler as a possibility if he already knew it wasn't going to happen. Remember just last October (when the cast already knew the ending) Noah said in a Q&A that Byler was always supposed to be something that youโ€™re not sure if itโ€™s romantic or a very special friendship. Where he and Cara (who plays Karen Wheeler) started floundering on a question to do with Mike and Willโ€™s relationship.

Tbh I think the Duffers have probably since talked to Noah and Finn to tell them to minimize the Byler talk. Even Millie said something about how the writers have told her not to talk about it. What's with all the secrecy here?

If Byler is happening (which I believe it is) it would be the culminating plot twist of the whole show. And yes it is a plot twist, because we all know the GA wonโ€™t see it coming, and even Bylers continue to have doubt on if it'll be canon.

And again I want to reiterate that Finn isnโ€™t the writer of the show. Even so lets say what if Finn wanted a Milkvan endgame? It wouldn't change anything. If the Duffers want Byler to be endgame they will be. The Duffers said they determined the ending around S1/S2 and knew the show would only be 4 or 5 seasons. Nothing the actors prefer will affect that ending.

Millie has even talked about her mixed thoughts on the show when filming Season 5. She's kinda indicated she's not the happiest with El's ending (compare this to Noah who seems really happy about Will's ending). So regardless of what the actors think, the Duffers clearly already have the characters endings figured out. Also remember -- El was supposed to originally die end of Season 1, which the Duffers changed. That doesn't quite indicate that they had a Milkvan ending in mind, does it?

Love how you worded it omg, Mike bi icon

Anonymous asked:

Well someone who went and checked out the Mileven account on Twitter that made those edits on tiktok said that he did like them on his priv but the edits were just about Mike and nothing ship related.

Cool ๐Ÿ˜†

Anonymous asked:

If I remember correctly werenโ€™t the edits he liked just Mike being a diva? Like they werenโ€™t Mileven edits.

Don't ask me I don't follow him on insta

Guys what if the Miwi scene is one of those vecna visions where he reads people's minds and everything is like a red cloud with memories you get me?

What if all the Lucas-Mike plot is to show that Mike can still have affectionate platonic frienships with dudes

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