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    This document provides an introduction to the seduction community, outlining its history and various styles of seduction. It discusses how seduction used to be seen as innate but is now understood as a skill that can be learned and practiced. Different approaches like direct and indirect game as well as styles like pickup artist, natural game, and inner game are covered.

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    This document provides an introduction to the seduction community, outlining its history and various styles of seduction. It discusses how seduction used to be seen as innate but is now understood as a skill that can be learned and practiced. Different approaches like direct and indirect game as well as styles like pickup artist, natural game, and inner game are covered.

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    Some of the key takeaways are that seduction is a skill that can be learned and practiced, it is about creating attraction rather than control, independence and irreverence are attractive qualities, and there is no single best style - only what works better for each individual.

    Historically, powerful men like King David and Mark Anthony used their status and power to seduce women, while women of influence like Cleopatra and Helen of Troy used their sexuality and beauty to gain social power and influence over men. Ordinary mate selection was based more on proximity and social class. The concepts of courtly love and romantic love later emerged.

    The modern seduction community developed from individuals and authors in the 1970s-2000s who approached seduction as a set of learnable skills rather than an innate quality. This included works on neuro-linguistic programming, dating advice books and seminars, and the rise of online communities and 'gurus' sharing techniques and strategies.

    The Seduction Community

    An Introduction
    James (PsychoLogic) TantraLogic Group
    2008 TantraLogic Group own your lovelife

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    A Short History of Seduction


    Historically men had power and control
    King David Paris Mark Anthony

    Romantic love

    Great eroticists
    Don Juan

    Courtly love (Lancelot and Guinevere)

    Women could gain Casanova power (social influence) Men adopted the through sex feminine tools of Bathsheba Helen of Troy seduction Ordinary mate selection was based on proximity and social class
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    Cleopatra

    Language (poetry, oration, imagery) Appearance (clothing, jewelry, ornamentation)

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    Seducers vs. Frustrated Chumps


    Natural seducers have always been among us Cool (fun, attractive) used to be considered an innate, immutable personal quality Average Frustrated Chumps (AFCs) figured they were at the mercy of luck and chance
    Charisma, Social savvy, Skill with women
    Actors: Cary Grant, Errol Flynn, Clark Gable Celebrities: Hugh Hefner, Wilt Chamberlain, Gene Simmons Movies/TV: James Bond, The Fonz, Ponch & John

    Take whatever I can get Beg, plead, cheat, and lie if thats what it takes

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    Newsflash: Seduction is a Skill


    1970: Eric Weber How to Pick Up Girls 1980s: Don Steele, Ross Jeffries Dating books and seminars Neuro Linguistic Programming (NLP) Speed Seduction 1994: Lewis De Payne alt.seduction.fast (ASF) Newsgroup

    1990s-2000s: The Gurus


    Like any skill seduction can be taught and learned Of course mastery requires practice
    2008 TantraLogic Group

    Ross Jeffries David DeAngelo Mystery (Erik von Markovik) Style (Neil Strauss) Mark Cunningham David Deida Juggler (Wayne Elise) Zan Perrion Tyler Durden Lance Mason BradP Mehow and many many more

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    The Practice of Seduction


    Diverse sources
    Evolutionary Biology Psychology Sociology Self Help Leadership and Management Literature and Art Eastern Philosophy Acting and Improvisation Magic and Mentalism Sales and Marketing

    This is no surprise

    Modern seduction

    The study of human interaction and sexuality is vast

    Socially awkward people Technically smart Driven by the Internet Goal: Model success Experiential emphasis

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    Key Insights
    Looks, money, possessions dont matter Personality, confidence, humor, independence are attractive Skills can be learned and taught Success with women can be modeled and emulated Your prejudices, biases, and assumptions are irrelevantevidence and results count
    Field testing Sometimes they help Usually they hurt

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    Various Styles
    Supplicating Behavior Frustrated Chump Inner Game Day Game Indirect Game Methods/Routines Attractive Behavior Pick Up Artist Outer Game Night Game Direct Game Natural Game

    and many more


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    Supplicating Behavior Doing things to win her approval Lavishing her with money and trinkets Needing her

    Attractive Behavior
    Doing things that are interesting to you Guiding her with rewards and punishment Wanting her

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    Frustrated Chump

    Tries to entertain her Cares about the outcome Pleads and whines Takes what he can get Worries what people think
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    Pick Up Artist (PUA)


    Always entertains himself Is not attached to the outcome Leads and guides Is extremely selective Knows what he believes

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    Inner Game
    Attitudes and beliefs Confidence Psychological Harder to see to measure Easier to fake, harder to attain
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    Outer Game
    Actions and behaviors Competence Physiological Easier to see and measure Harder to fake, easier to attain
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    Day Game
    Everyday settings: stores, restaurants, parks, work Low key Verbal, vibing, comfort Less competitive

    Night Game
    Social venues: bars, clubs, socializing mixers High energy Physical, flashy, tension More competitive

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    Indirect Game
    Covert intentions Avoids rejection Under the radar Reduces her defenses

    Direct Game
    Clear intentions Confronts rejection Over the top Challenges her to accept or defend

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    Methods/Routines
    Conscious Rehearsed and prepared Proven/field tested Formal structure Black and white

    Natural Game
    Intuitive Spontaneous and improvised Unproven/hit or miss Unstructured or contextual Shades of grey

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    Some Other Elements


    Cocky and Funny (David DeAngelo) NLP Patterns (Ross Jeffries)
    Cocky: Arrogant, irreverent, teasing Funny: Humor, wit, good natured Hypnotic induction Anchoring Sexual language embedding Grooming Physical fitness Fashion and personal style Identity and individuality
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    Personal Growth (Various)

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    Choosing A Style
    Consider the pros and cons of each approach for you, not right vs. wrong Progress is not linear

    Use a style relevant to your interests and congruent with your skill level
    One night stand (ONS) Same night lay (SNL) Hookup Long-term relationship (LTR) Multiple long-term relationships (MLTR) Girlfriend (GF) Wife (WTF)

    Beginner, intermediate, advanced, master each style

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    How To Be Flexible
    Be willing to try new things
    Progress is about change and experimentation The greater exposure to variety, the greater your creativity and innovation Peacocking like Mystery at Starbucks makes you a desperate attention whore Context matters!

    Adapt to the situation

    The more you practice the better you get You can always quit using a style or technique that doesnt suit you

    But you cant suddenly adopt one if you dont know it

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    The Ethics of Seduction


    Members of the community like to defend it while critics are quick to judge it Not One Monolithic Agenda
    Styles show the community is diverse Different perspectives compete within it

    Better to understand the good and the bad aspects of the community
    What beliefs underlie community activities? How does the community help men? Women? How does the community harm men? Women? What practices are ethical? Unethical?

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    Take Aways
    Seduction is a skill that can be practiced and learned Seduction is about attraction, not control Creating value for others increases your own value Independence and irreverence are highly attractive There is no best style and no one right way
    Only more effective or less effective for you Soft sell beats brute force

    2008 TantraLogic Group

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    The Seduction Community


    An Introduction
    James (PsychoLogic) TantraLogic Group
    2008 TantraLogic Group own your lovelife

    TantraLogic Group

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