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    TECHNICAL TRAINING

    Shift Pointers
    Author: Jesse Zacarias
    Subject Matter: Diagnosis
    Unit: FNR5
    Vehicle Application: 2008 Ford Fusion
    Issue: TCC slip and/or code P0771

    FNR5
    TCC slip and/or shift

    solenoid E stuck off

    he FNR5 transmission can be


    found in most Ford and
    Mazda front-wheel-drive vehicles and has been with us for a
    while. One of the most-common
    calls we get on this transmission in
    the tech center at Valve Body Pro is
    for a code P0741 TCC slip and/or
    P0771 shift solenoid E stuck off.
    Recently we had a 2008 Ford
    Fusion with this problem. Figure 1
    shows the SSA (SSPCA) increasing
    the modulation but no drop in rpm slip.
    The shop had replaced the valve body twice, installed a new pump, bypassed the cooler and replaced
    the converter twice, but the problem persisted. Before
    we mention the fix, lets see what is involved in applying the torque-converter clutch.
    When the TCC is not engaged, fluid is present on
    both the front (TC/F) and rear (TC/R) of the torqueconverter clutch, thus keeping the clutch from applying (Figure 2).
    To apply the TCC in fourth gear, the SSE solenoid
    must be turned ON. The SSA solenoid, which is a
    PWM solenoid, is used to control
    the rate of apply. Since SSA is a
    3
    normally open solenoid, when it is
    at 0% duty cycle it produces its
    maximum pressure, whereas at
    100% duty cycle it produces 0 psi.
    If the TCC is to be applied directly
    without gradual application, the
    SSA will be ON 100% at the moment SSE is turned ON (Figure 3).
    This ensures that no fluid will
    be present on the front side of the
    converter; that is, between the converter cover and the converter
    clutch.
    On the other hand, if the computer decides to apply the TCC
    gradually, SSA is modulated to
    about 50% when the SSE is turned

    4th Gear TCC Released


    TC/R TC/F

    Off
    SSE
    Modulated 100%
    SSA

    To cooler
    from PR valve

    2014 Transmission Digest. Reproduced with permission. For subscription information call 800-274-7890

    ON. This allows the SSA solenoid fluid to be present


    between the converter cover and the torque-converter
    clutch, thus not allowing the clutch to engage. As the
    SSA is gradually modulated to 100%, the fluid present
    between the converter cover and the converter clutch
    is eliminated to fully engage the TCC (Figure 4).

    4th Gear TCC Applied


    TC/R

    TC/F

    On
    SSE
    Modulated from 50% to 100%
    SSA
    To cooler
    from PR valve

    When rebuilding this unit you must look carefully


    for a worn-out valve-body bore at the TCC control
    valve and worn-out bushings at the pump stator on
    the location shown in Figure 5.

    The other place


    that can cause the
    P0741 is inside the
    converter. Some
    of the most common, shown in
    Figure 6, are a
    damaged seal for
    the input shaft (1)
    and a worn or
    damaged sealing
    ring that seals the
    fluid between the
    turbine and the
    clutch and
    damper cover (2).
    A leak from these

    locations can allow fluid from the rear TCC to enter


    the front TCC and not allow the clutch to apply fully.
    Unfortunately, we cannot see these seals, as they
    are inside the converter. Here is a test that you can do
    while building the transmission:
    Place the complete pump assem7
    bly on the
    converter that you
    are going to use.
    Place the inputshaft/forwarddrum assembly
    onto the pump
    (Figure 7).
    Plug the cooler
    and torque-converter front feed
    (TC/F), marked by
    an X in Figure 8.
    Gently blow regulated compressed
    air on the
    torque-converter rear
    8
    feed (TC/R)
    while at the
    same time
    turning the
    forward
    drum/input
    shaft. If you
    are able to turn
    the drum with
    air applied,
    you have an
    internal leak
    that will cause
    a P0741.
    On a properly working torque converter you
    should not be able to turn the shaft while applying
    about 10-18 psi of regulated compressed air. If you
    want to see a video of this go to Valvebodypros.com
    and under the Support tab click on Pro Tech Tips, then
    click on Video.
    This was the problem with the 2008 Fusion mentioned at the beginning. Even with two different converters he had the same problem. With this test he
    was able to find a converter that held and the problem
    was solved. TD
    Thanks to Aaron Hatfield from Bayview Transmission, Port Angeles, Wash.,
    for his contributions to this article.

    Jesse Zacarias is the owner of Elec-Tran Diagnostics (www.electrandiagnostics.com) in Gilroy, Calif., and part of the research-and-development department at Valve Body Pros.

    2014 Transmission Digest. Reproduced with permission. For subscription information call 800-274-7890

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