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The 7 Laws of 400 / 600 / 800 Coaching Success

Ron Grigg (Jacksonville University)

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The 7 Laws of 400/600/800 Meter Coaching Success
Latif Thomas with Coach Ron Grigg (Jacksonville University)

I’m Latif Thomas, owner of CompleteTrackandField.com. As a high school coach, I know


how difficult it can be to plan effective training, as well as organize and run efficient
training sessions for this particular event group.

Your 400/600/800 runners are too slow to be true sprinters (55m-400m). And they don't
possess the 'endurance' to be true middle distance runners (800 -1600).

In this exclusive report, we're going to explore specific causes of and solutions to these
problems in order to help you maximize the potential of your athletes.

Today, I'm talking to Jacksonville University Head Coach Ron Grigg about the secrets
behind coaching primary event 400/600/800 runners to their best performances.

If you’re not familiar with Ron Grigg, take a minute read about some of his coaching
highlights before we get started:

Ron Grigg continues to raise the level of the Dolphins’ success as he enters his
15th season at the helm in 2016. Grigg became the director of track and field and
cross country at JU in 2002 after serving as the associate head coach under
former head coach Becky Motley for a year. Grigg originally came to JU in 1998
before leaving to serve as an assistant coach at Kansas State from 1999 to 2001.

Grigg has made the Dolphins track program a beacon in the Atlantic Sun
Conference by winning the A-Sun Indoor and Outdoor Championships in each of
the last 10 seasons – earning “Coach of the Year” in all 20 of those titles, as well
as, earning the United States Track and Field and Cross Country Coaches
Association South Region Women’s “Coach of the Year” in 2008. Since taking
over as head coach, Grigg has directly coached more than 120 conference
champions in track and more than 250 all-conference performances. The
program has also produced greater than 300 Atlantic Sun All-Academic
performers during that time.

In 2015, the Dolphins would sweep the indoor and outdoor titles for the 10th-
straight year – extending their conference record. The Dolphins have won every
indoor title since the conference added the sport in 2006, while JU’s outdoor team
holds the record for the most consecutive titles in A-Sun history.
At the 2015 NCAA Outdoor Championships, the 4x100 meter squad of Shanique
Walker, Courtney Walker, Shadaey Campbell, and Ja'Mesha Richard ran a 44.70,
placing 13th overall. Walker also competed in the 100 meter hurdles, placing
seventh in a time of 12.96 seconds. The Dolphins earned five second team All-
America honors.

In 2013 Bienna Freeman became the fifth athlete in JU history to earn All-America
honors after her performance in the 800m at the NCAA Outdoor
Championships. During the season she shattered the school record in the event
by three seconds and nearly matched her record setting time in the semifinals of
the NCAA’s where she finished with a time of 2:04.71 which was the 10th overall
time for the event.

In addition to Freeman, Joane Pierre and sophomore Shanique Walker also


advanced to the NCAA Outdoor Championships giving the Dolphins a program
best three representatives. Walker enjoyed a breakout season for the JU
culminating with her record setting performance at the A-Sun Outdoor
Championships in which she set the meet record for the 100m hurdles en route to
earning 32.5 team points and Most Valuable Performer Honors.

Charlene Charles added to her storied JU resume by becoming the first athlete in
A-Sun history to win the long jump three times at the Indoor Championships. She
also was just one of 16 people in the country to qualify for the NCAA Indoor
Championships in the heptathlon before she had to withdraw due to sustaining a
serious injury. After missing the entire outdoor season due to the setback,
Charles returned for the conference meet where she gutted it out in the
heptathlon to win and end her career on a high note.

The 2012 cross country season saw history made when Pierre became the first
Dolphin in program history to win the individual conference title. She won with a
time of 17:17.5 to win and secure first team all-conference honors for the third
time in her career. Pierre went on to finish seventh at the NCAA South Regional
and advanced to the NCAA Cross Country Championships and finished her
career as the program record holder in the 5K (17:17.5) and 6K (20:22.1).

In 2009-10, the Dolphins became the first A-Sun school to win the Triple Crown
after securing the cross country, indoor and outdoor track championships.

The JU women’s cross country built on its second place finish in 2008 by
claiming six of the top 14 runners in the conference meet to win its first A-Sun
Championship in 2009. They also produced a program-best ninth place finish at
the NCAA South Regionals and were ranked as high as eighth in the USTFCCCA
South Region Polls.

The Dolphins ended the year by setting points records at the indoor (212) and
outdoor (247) meets to secure their fifth straight conference championships. Due
to the success, both JU relay teams and runners in the 400 and 800-meters
earned spots to the NCAA East Preliminary Round. Charlene Charles was one of
two freshmen to earn a position to the heptathlon at the NCAA Championships.

From 2006-09, Grigg worked with Natasha Harvey, who finished her career as one
of the best athletes in school history. Harvey earned a school-record five All-
America honors in the long jump, secured seven berths in the NCAA
Championships, produced 18 NCAA regional qualifying marks, won 22 individual
conference titles and recorded 35 all-conference honors. She also won “Most
Outstanding Performer” meet honors at the A-Sun Championships nine times and
competed with Team USA twice (2006, 2008).

Harvey got it done in the classroom as well, earning JU female “Student of the
Year” honors and becoming the first female athlete in school history to be named
A-Sun “Student-Athlete of the Year” for the 2008-09 school year.

Grigg also recruited and coached Monique Tubbs, the school's first national
champion (60-meter dash, 7.29) and a four-time All-America honoree; and Andrea
Pressley, who finished fourth in the heptathlon at the 2004 NCAA Outdoor
Championships.

Besides the five All-America honorees and the 17 NCAA Division I Championship
qualifiers, school records have been set in 20 of 23 outdoor events and 19 out of
21 indoor track events during Grigg's tenure as assistant and head coach.

Grigg's teams have also shown success in the classroom, receiving the
USTFCCCA All-Academic Team award for 14 consecutive years (2002-15). Since
his return in 2001, the Dolphins have had more than 200 academic all-conference
selections among the cross country and track teams.
Also, the cross country, indoor and outdoor track teams have received NCAA
Public Recognition for having APR in the top 10% nationally.

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Now that you know more about the full range of Coach Grigg’s experience and coaching
success, let’s dive into "The 7 Laws of 400/600/800 Coaching Success".

This isn’t a thesis or an attempt to fill up space with fluff and nonsense. The goal is to give
you straight forward, practical information you can use to positively improve your
approach to programming for this fascinating event group and group of athletes.

The format is simple: I’ll ask Coach Grigg the question/s and he’ll provide the answer/s. So,
let’s get started...
I. The Law of Talent Identification

Latif Thomas: This event group is commonly referred to as 'tweeners': athletes that don't
have the absolute speed to be successful sprinters, but don't have the "endurance" to be
middle distance or distance runners. But, you've said that you don't consider the athletes to
be tweeners, but, instead, that the event group itself, as well as the coaches are the tweeners.
That coaches, generally, are more comfortable coaching sprinters OR are more comfortable
coaching middle distance and distance runners.

That said, how do we assess, address and analyze the biomotor/physical capacities of our
athletes in order to determine whether and where athletes with the particular set of
capabilities best suited to the 400/600 & 800m events?

Ron Grigg: Athletes will show us their gifts by how they are able to handle certain kinds of
training. It is important to have variety in training so athletes can show us their
gifts. Using a variety of training protocols we should be able to see who are the most
coordinated athletes, who possess the top speeds, and who excels in those tough “longer
faster rep” sessions. It is easier to compare the athletes who are currently in our training
groups to one another just through observation.
What is slightly more difficult is determining in which event group they will ultimately be
successful. That requires a little knowledge on the specific demands of each event.

We also need to be able to identify what “good” is in the bigger picture. Just because
someone is the fastest kid on your team, does not always mean their best gifts are as a
short sprinter. It may simply mean that we don’t have a population of short spr inters with
which to work. The fastest person on our team, might be the best 800 meter runner in the
state.

So we must provide opportunities in training to assess all of those qualities.

II. The Law of Age & Gender

Latif Thomas: Once you’ve identified talent, how does age, (training, biological,
chronological), as well as gender, affect your approach to developing this event group range?

Ron Grigg: The duration of the event will dictate the aerobic/anaerobic energy
contributions. So a senior boy and a freshman girl may have different energy needs while
racing the same event.

400/600/800 meter success at higher levels requires some physical matu rity. Younger
athletes are better served emphasizing general training on both ends of the speed and
endurance spectrum.

When in environments with lots of racing opportunities, it may be appropriate to let the
races serve as the primary means for specific “training.” For example, what do you do when
you have, say, two dual meets during the week?

Having those two meets eliminates the need for any additional specific training. When in
doubt, stay general in your training and let the races serve as the specific. The good news is
there is nothing wrong with “racing the athlete into shape” if it can be part of an
appropriately designed training plan.

Once a coach has an understanding of what qualities to train and how to train them in
isolation, then they can get creative in combining some of these qualities in unique
ways. The good news is designing training for the 400/600/800 meter athlete isn’t easy,
but nothing worthwhile ever is.

III. The Law of Endurance

Latif Thomas: Coaches who come from a ‘distance’ background tend to steer their training
toward the ‘high volume, low intensity’ end of the spectrum. Coaches coming from a ‘sprints’
background tend to employ a ‘quality over quantity’ approach to training.

Athletes who succeed in this event range naturally possess greater speed qualities than
endurance qualities. But, endurance is still a critical, if not predominant demand from a
program design standpoint.

That said, how do you define ‘endurance’ work for this event group and what role does it play
in training, compared to a traditional ‘sprints’ or ‘middle distance’ program?

Ron Grigg: Endurance has different meanings to different people. Some people think of
endurance as only aerobic training, but I think that do esn’t tell the whole story.

There is even an endurance quality to be trained in a 100m race. Sprint coaches might call
it Short Speed Endurance.

In reality there is a continuum of paces that range from 100 meter pace to marathon pace
that will all develop some forms of endurance required to be successful at 400/600/800
meters.
Latif Thomas: Does running mileage develop the endurance qualities required to succeed at
these race distances? If so, how much? If not, what type of work should be done in its place?

Ron Grigg: I don’t think in terms of mileage for this group, but there are aerobic training
qualities that must be addressed and there is a continuous running component to being
successful at 800 meters for sure.

If you think you have found an athlete who has the gifts for competing in the 400/600/800
meter distances, we have to find a way to address these issues.

A few years ago we had an athlete who was an 800 meter specialist who also ran on our
school record 4x4.

The athlete hated distance running.

It was frustrating for me as a coach to send the athlete out on a 30 or 45 minute run only to
see that this athlete was already 100 meters behind the distance runners after only 3
minutes of running, even though the pace wasn’t fast.

This athlete would even get dropped in warm up jogs. It wasn’t that the athlete didn’t have
the ability to handle endurance training successfully, but the athlete’s belief perpetuated
their unpreparedness.

The results showed in cross country races. The athlete didn’t like the distance running, and
didn’t like the distance races. Therefore the athlete also didn’t believe they were good at
anything beyond 800 meters.

There is a saying, “whether you think you can or think you can’t, you are absolutely right.”

I had to figure out another way to get the athlete the essential aerobic qualities to improve
800 meter times.

By implementing shorter and slower repetitions with jogging recoveries at ever increasing
volumes, and by implementing shorter continuous tempo runs (such as 10 and 15 minutes)
on the track at faster paces, I was able to monitor the efforts and ensure there was proper
intensity to the volume.
Over the course of 2 seasons the athlete improved their 800 meter personal best by 5
seconds and qualified for the NCAA Championships.

But the athlete also improved their 1500 meter time by almost 20 seconds, and gained the
ability and confidence to drop well over 2 minutes for 5k of cross country, all while
continuing to get faster over 400 meters!

IV. The Law of Strength & Power

Latif Thomas: We can improve our athletes’ overall fitness, running economy and mechanics.
And it will improve their performance. But, at some point, especially in the 4/6/8 event range
where speed is a necessity, a ceiling is hit if the athlete does not develop increasing levels of
physical strength and power in order to propel their body farther, faster and while burning
less energy to do so.

At the same time, athletes competing primarily in the 400/600/800 distances are not true
sprinters, throwers or power lifters. The fundamental question is:

How much strength training does this group require compared to, say, the standard sprints
group?

Ron Grigg: Speed and power are essential for success at 400/600/800 meters. These
qualities can be trained in the weight room, but that is not near as important as it would be
for a pure sprinter.

When they are ready, I like to see that the 400/600/800 meter athletes can squat and clean
with appropriate techniques for all of the same reasons that those lifts would be important
to sprint training. I like those lifts for their enhancement of core strength, coordination and
range of motion.

However, much of this can be addressed away from the weight room, saving the weight
room for later in the progression of strength and power development if appropriate.

Latif Thomas: Then what types of strength & power training activities do you favor with this
group?

Ron Grigg: Strength and power must always be age appropriate. Body weight circuits can
be done to develop general strength. The throwing of medicine balls can be done for power
development and simple jumping exercises like jump rope can be used to work on elastic
strength.

These can all be done with novice athletes, and they will help develop the requisite
qualities, concepts and skills that will one-day lead to the weight room.
V. The Law of Speed

Latif Thomas: Let’s get down to brass tacks here.

What is the optimal method for approaching speed development with this event group? Is a
long to short or short to long approach? Both? Neither?

Ron Grigg: Speed is the crucial quality in every running event.

Races don’t measure how far you go, they measure how fast you get there.

Successful athletes in the 400/600/800 meter events have the traits to be fast. We must
maximize the strengths of our athletes while also minimizing the weaknesses.

While short to long may be how to describe the speed training portion of working with
400/600/800 meter athletes, it is not that simple. There are many other things that also
need to be addressed simultaneously.

With this event group there is both a short to long and long to short approach happening
simultaneously that ultimately meet at the specific race demands for these events.
VI. The Law of Jedi Mind Tricks

Latif Thomas: Some athletes consider themselves ‘sprinters’ regardless of their performance.

At the high school level in particular, there is an assumption that being a sprinter is ‘easier’
than being a distance runner. Kids believe that either the training, expectations and/or
workouts are easier and/or that the training/racing doesn’t hurt nearly as much as the
longer endurance based events.

Unfortunately, most kids are not built to be 55-400m sprinters.

How do we convince 'slow sprinters' to buy into moving up to this event group when they
think they're sprinters and fear the discomfort of training and competing in this event group?

Ron Grigg: Everything we train has a progression, including the mentality of the
athletes. Athletes tend to like the things they think they are good at, and shy away from
things they think they are not good at.

Our job as coaches is to design training that will allow the athletes to be successful, and
therefore enjoy (or at least not HATE) the training, while still getting the qualities we know
they need. Sometimes that includes withholding some information, or even trickery.

I liken it to how my mom feeds her dog its medicine. If she puts the pill in front of the dog,
it will simply stare at it and never take it. But if she puts it inside a piece of baloney, the dog
will take the medicine without ever knowing it was there.

With this event group, we often have to design training that looks like training they enjoy,
but by manipulating paces, rest intervals and volumes it can achieve the goals we desire.

Once the athletes have had some success completing the training and have received the
benefits of physical benefits of that training, they should be able to progress to more
challenging training with an improved confidence in their abilities to be successful at the
more challenging training.

This is EXACTLY what I had to do with the 800 meter athlete cited in the previous example.

But the same has worked for moving kids who thought they were 100 meter runners up to
the 400, and converting heptathletes who were petrified of the 800 into it being one of
their stronger events when compared to their competition.
VII. The Law of Practice Organization

Latif Thomas: At the high school level in particular, as coaches we find ourselves in charge of
too many athletes and not enough time, staff or resources to optimize their training.

I want to get the best results for and out of my athletes, regardless of event group, but I have
to be aware of the fact that the more groups I create, the harder it is for me to manage
workouts.

This is especially the case with interval type workouts where recording times and managing
rest is critical to the success and efficiency of the workout, as well as the physiological effect
on the athletes.

When it comes to developing primary event 400/600/800 meter runners, should we treat
and train these athletes as an entirely separate group (like 'sprints' or 'distance')?

Or do we have them train with the distance group? Or the sprints group?

Ron Grigg: At any point in time, either or both the sprint group and distance group should
be doing training that is appropriate for the 400/600/800 meter athletes.

With a little bit of coordination, and probably only minor modifications your 400/600/800
meter athlete should be able to thrive in either session. Conversely, you may choose to
design an appropriate training session for the 400/600/800 meter group and then invite
the distance group or the sprint group to join.

So, when you have a plan you’re confident in, the answer is:

A) sometimes the sprints group,


B) sometimes the distance group and
C) sometimes their own group.

Latif Thomas: Keeping those things in mind, do I model their workout times off of their faster
sprint (200) times or their middle distance (800) times?

Ron Grigg: I would use 200 meter times when writing workouts that deal with speed
endurance qualities. I would use 800 meter times when prescribing any workouts that deal
with endurance qualities.
Theoretical Equivalencies can help you find the proper paces. And remember, training
zones are exactly that:

Zones.

While we may come up with exact numbers, the body will receive the benefits of the
training as long as it is “within a reasonable ballpark.” Then the goal of the coach and the
athlete is to assess the training session and design a progression for what it next.
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