Invincible-Verse AP Strength
Invincible-Verse AP Strength
Invincible-Verse AP Strength
Planetary diameter = 15562km (15562000m) ~ 1053px /// radius = 7781km (7781000m). [R]
Bottom destroyed portion diameter = 9517.5km (9517000m) ~ 644px /// radius = 4758.75km
(4758750m). [a]
= 12.25×7781000²/6.6743e-11 = 1.1112229e+25kg.
Kinetic Energy:
KE: 1/2mv².
•m is mass. = 6.0939803e+23kg.
•v is velocity. = 13807m/s.
*Extra detail:
Viltrum’s GBE:
GBE (U): 3GM²/5r.
FOR FORCE:
Method 1:
•Assuming all the mass was ejected at escape velocity in a single second (which is fair
enough given the circumstances and situation):
Method 2:
Force (N): Impulse (mΔv)/Time taken (t).
Time taken = Assuming the debris were launched to a distance such that it completely
escaped the atmosphere, i.e. the distance known as the Kármán Line - 100km (100000m). t
= d/v = 100000÷13807 = 7.24270297675 seconds.
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Invincible & Tick push a Moon/Asteroid/Celestial
body calc:
•I‘ll assume some type of tactile TK is involved as to why the celestial body isn’t breaking into multiple pieces or
why they can exert such force on such a small surface area and not break through it, etc. Same as most similar
Marvel/DC feats, similar to this.
Volume:
Mass:
Kinetic Energy:
•I’ll assume the celestial body/asteroid is at a distance away from the Mars comparable to the
closer of its 2 Moons (Phobos~5989km), as it is the larger of the 2. The body was essentially
freed from Mars’ gravitational influence to be moved around freely and plunged onto its
surface; to deorbit an object, you’d have to surpass the GPE of said object around the
primary body it was orbiting:
FOR FORCE:
->A newton-metre is the product of either force of one newton acting perpendicularly to the
end of a moment arm with a length of one metre or the line of action of 1 Newton acting over
a metre’s distance. This measurement is commonly used to express torque, but can also be
used to quantify work or energy, in which case it is equivalent to the joule, the standard SI
unit of energy.
Force (N): Work Done (J)÷Distance (m) = 2.197985e+29/5989000 = 3.6700367e+22N//3.742
quintillion tons of force.
Invincible was the one who flung Tick into the Moon to deorbit
it, therefore he did most of, if not all the work…
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Tech Jacket tosses a spaceship to the Sun calc:
•Tech Jacket tossing a Kresh ship into the Sun causes a large and sizeable ejection/shockwave of mass,
supposedly along its surface (or near it).
•Coinidentally, both axes’ diameters seem to more or less be the same. The outward depth of
the explosion was ascertained from a stray line of radiating plasma, wherein it is along the
side of the Sun where perspective would have it at a slight degree of curve to the main
plume. Ignoring the smaller stray spikes, we can approximate via simply finding the volume
from a spherical cap:
Volume:
V: (πh/6)(3a²+h²).
=(π(188027027.027)/6)(3(169224324.324)²+(188027027.027)²) = 1.1938605e+25m³.
Mass:
•The reason why chromosphere density was used (1e-12g/cm³=1e-9kg/m³) is due to it being
the real “observed” surface of the Sun, as opposed to the photosphere (which is a layer
below).
v = d/t.
= 188027027.027/10 = 18802702.7027m/s.
= 188027027.027/30 = 6267567.56757m/s.
= 188027027.027/60 = 3133783.78378m/s.
Kinetic Energy:
KE: 1/2mv².
FOR FORCE:
->A newton-metre is the product of either force of one newton acting perpendicularly to the
end of a moment arm with a length of one metre or the line of action of 1 Newton acting over
a metre’s distance. This measurement is commonly used to express torque, but can also be
used to quantify work or energy, in which case it is equivalent to the joule, the standard SI
unit of energy.
•Assuming he started the initial work on the surface of Earth and charged up to space all the
way through, a distance of 100km (100000m) will be used:
Volume(s):
V: 4/3πabc (ellipsoid volume~assuming b=c~a,b and c are all axial radii) OR 4/3πr³ (r=D/2):
•Adding up the rock volumes and applying Moon rock density (3270kg/m³):
Mass: ρV =
((5.8868715e+12)+(1.8227766e+13)+(1.2505694e+13)+(4.9829155e+12)+(1.6066198e+12)
+(1.6066198e+12)+(7.4380546e+12)+(9.240272e+12)+(3.4622982e+12)+(6.8940306e+12))
×3270 = 2.3495323e+17kg.
Kinetic Energy:
•Assuming the rocks were launched at a mean velocity of the Moon’s surface escape velocity
(2380m/s):
*Note that this calc doesn’t factor in other smaller rocks, which were also launched,
as well as the dust cloud, as they were assumed negligible enough.
FOR FORCE:
->A newton-metre is the product of either force of one newton acting perpendicularly to the
end of a moment arm with a length of one metre or the line of action of 1 Newton acting over
a metre’s distance. This measurement is commonly used to express torque, but can also be
used to quantify work or energy, in which case it is equivalent to the joule, the standard SI
unit of energy.
•Assuming the total work generated was built up between the distance of the Earth and
Moon, wherein Invincible bullrushed Allen from and to:
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Invincible throws a golem rock past the Moon calc:
•I will assume that the meteor is at least 150m in diameter given the context of the scene
where it is a clear threat that will be hazardous to the Earth and that we at least can see it's
larger than that decently big lunar building:
Volume: 4/3πr³ = 4/3×π×75³ = 1767145.87m³
Mass: ρV = 3500×1767145.87× = 6185010545kg.
•The golem was torn in half, therefore the mass he threw was 6185010545/2 =
3092505272.5kg.
For speed:
Low-end time taken: 10 seconds, therefore v = 3.84e+8/10 = 3.84e+7m/s.
High-end time taken: 30 seconds, therefore v = 3.84e+8/30 = 1.28e+7m/s.
FOR FORCE:
->A newton-metre is the product of either force of one newton acting perpendicularly to the
end of a moment arm with a length of one metre or the line of action of 1 Newton acting over
a metre’s distance. This measurement is commonly used to express torque, but can also be
used to quantify work or energy, in which case it is equivalent to the joule, the standard SI
unit of energy.
•Assuming Invincible used 5m of distance at best to move and throw the golem:
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Thragg breaks Omni-Man’s fist with his head:
Omni-Man’s fists no-sell the impact of crashing through and out of Viltrum, per Newton’s 3rd
law:
•Therefore, Thragg’s simple head-shifting scales multiple times over the KE
Omni-Man’s fist(s) withstood, upon bullrushing through Viltrum.
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Allen the Alien pushes ship out of a Star’s
gravitational influence calc:
•Allen is 193cm (6ft 4in) and 170kg (375lbs) per the handbook:
•Plugging into the pixel measure gets his head height at 0.3m and his eye’s width at 0.09m:
•Using the previous scale, we can measure the tiny rim of the semi-circular part of the ship at
0.1m:
•Popping Allen onto the part of the ship we later see him at in the close up, using a previous
image, we get the length of the ship at 70.93m and height at 28.23m… We can assume the
width to be the same as the height, if we think of the dimensions of the ship and how the
shape would actually make sense. Also that they seemed to have plenty of space inside the
ship. Visually, height and width look around the same:
Volume:
Volume: LWH.
V = 70.93×28.23×28.23 = 56526.4506m³.
•Assuming 50% hollowness for the ship (which is a fair value considering it’s an advanced
ship which can travel at MFTL+ speeds and have packed engines, which could be made of
other denser materials), V = 56526.4506×0.5 = 28263.2253m³.
Mass:
Density = 8050kg/m³.
Kinetic Energy:
•I‘ll just assume the Sun’s values to make things quite simple and lowballed.
FOR FORCE:
->A newton-metre is the product of either force of one newton acting perpendicularly to the
end of a moment arm with a length of one metre or the line of action of 1 Newton acting over
a metre’s distance. This measurement is commonly used to express torque, but can also be
used to quantify work or energy, in which case it is equivalent to the joule, the standard SI
unit of energy.
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*Note that this calc is rough, as it does not consider changing instantaneous
accelerations at different points of displacement (closer to the Sun = greater
acceleration) ~ complex differential equations are required to ascertain this:
True displacement value over time, at t = 360s (Captain of the ship’s assistant stated they’d
have 6 minutes until they’re vaporised on the surface of the Sun):
with the initial constant (value) required for a crash at t = 360s:
∴the distance from the surface of the Sun (inputting) would be:
FOR FORCE:
Using the same principle as last time (assuming 100m of exertion breaks them out):
Force (N): Work Done (J)÷Distance (m) = 3.3347026e+19/100 = 3.3347026e+17N//34
Trillion tons of force.
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Viltrumites (and Tech Jacket) throw a Viltrumite
warship off-planet calc:
•The warships are around 85 windows wide (accounting for blank spaces):
•For reference:
Thragg’s height: 6ft 10in//2.08m (34px).
Window height: 2.386m (39px).
Window width: 0.734m (12px).
Ship width: 62.39m (0.734×85).
•Roughly estimating, the slanted height of the ship is around 60 windows tall.
Ship slanted height: 143.16m (2.386×60).
•Assuming it is made of tungsten (due to being an unknown but extremely tough metal), but
around 80% hollow:
•The pieces they threw seemed to have been ripped cleanly in half:
•Talescria, the planet they’re on, has a surface gravity 1.2 times that of Earth:
Mass: gr²/G = 11.772×6371000²/6.6728467e-11 = 7.1606808e+24kg.
Escape velocity: √(2GM/r) = √(2×6.6742867e-11×7.1606808e+24/6371000) = 12248.7m/s.
FOR FORCE:
->A newton-metre is the product of either force of one newton acting perpendicularly to the
end of a moment arm with a length of one metre or the line of action of 1 Newton acting over
a metre’s distance. This measurement is commonly used to express torque, but can also be
used to quantify work or energy, in which case it is equivalent to the joule, the standard SI
unit of energy.
•They seem to build up power over an arm’s swinging length of around 0.5m (when in the
throwing motion):
•This is calc is extremely rough as there were components of the ship which
were not calculated, which would increase volume, and a few assumptions
were made. Overall, the results would be accurate enough, just not exact.
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Amazon Omni-Man stops a Texas-sized meteor
calc:
•“You should’ve seen the asteroid I diverted a few years ago: The size of Texas.”
•If we take a very conservative estimate that it took Omni-Man a full hour to do so:
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Amazon Omni-Man destroys Flaxa calc:
•Scene.
•In this scene, Omni-Man flies across the Flaxan world and causes a large amount of
dust and debris to fly across the planet. Using this image, the first trail is 689 px long,
the second is 1095px, and the third is 1153px. Seemingly the width of the trails are
about 39px. The height of the trails is between 125px and 45px, meaning an average of
about 85px in height.
•Now, in this image, the planet is 995px in diameter and the image is 1000px in height. The
third dust trail in the image is 85px long. Using planet curvature scaling, we'd get:
√(1-(tan(35)×(995/1000))²/((tan(35)×(995/1000))²+1))×12742=11525.3898346 km
(11525389.8346m):
(11525389.8346/995)×85 = 984581.041147m.
(984581.041147/1153)×689 = 588357.621293m.
(984581.041147/1153)×1095 = 935053.113665m.
(984581.041147/1153)×39 = 33303.2615826m.
(984581.041147/1153)×85 = 72584.0316544m.
(984581.041147×33303.2615826×72584.0316544)+(588357.621293×33303.2615826×7258
4.0316544)+(935053.113665×33303.2615826×72584.0316544) = 6.0625309e+15m³.
•Dust apparently has a density of about 1.49 g/cm³ (1490 kg/m³). However, I'll just be using
the density of clouds since that value is assuming that all the dust is condensed into a single
volume which it most likely isn't. So that'd be 1.003 kg/m³, meaning the masses of each trail
should be:
(588357.621293×33303.2615826×72584.0316544)×1.003c= 1.4264947e+15kg.
(935053.113665×33303.2615826×72584.0316544)×1.003 = 2.2670707e+15kg.
(984581.041147×33303.2615826×72584.0316544)×1.003 = 2.387153e+15kg.
•The first trail (the smallest) took 10 frames, the second took another 10, and the third took 6
frames, so the speed of them should be:
588357.621293/(10/24) = 1412058.2911m/s.
935053.113665/(10/24) = 2244127.4728m/s.
984581.041147/(6/24) = 3938324.16459m/s.
1/2×1.4264947e+15×1412058.2911² = 1.42215e+27J.
1/2×2.2670707e+15×2244127.4728² = 5.7086066e+27J.
1/2×2.387153e+15×3938324.16459² = 1.8513e+28J.
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Amazon Omni-Man withstands a black hole calc:
•Full clip.
•As far as modern scientists know, micro-black holes cannot form or exist currently. ~ Size
scaling from ratio is invalid.
•Assuming (and not accounting for the wings and/or extra parts of the ship poking out in
corners) the ship is rectangular AND that it is only 50% hollow (see the clip):
•To simplify things, I will use the eyeball distance between the ship and the centre of the
Black Hole (singularity) to be around 2 schwarzchild radii:
For KE:
•Omni-Man would need to exceed the escape velocity of the black hole, to undo its
gravitational interaction with his body:
Escape velocity: √(2GM/r) = √(2×6.6742867e-11×6.537e+30/(2×9708.94258862)) =
211985280.149m/s.
Relativistic KE = 1.8837244527404999328013e+22J//4.5 Teratons of TNT (Small Country
level).
•For those who may be concerned about discrepancies and little differences affecting the Rel-KE result; exponential increase
does not start taking place until 95% the SoL and above - the escape velocity result here is around 71% the SoL.
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Amazon Invincible stops a meteor calc:
•Scene.
•Mark fully stops it when it starts ablating, meaning he stopped it at the Kármán line, which is
100km above Earth’s surface.
•This is a massive lowball as it takes the average speed of the meteor to find its KE, despite
Mark actively working against it, so it’s speed and KE would’ve been higher.
FOR FORCE:
18.5220794862×1080/(476×2tan(70°/2)) = 30.00887875m.
18.5220794862×1080/(25×2tan(70°/2)) = 571.3690514m.
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Amazon Omni-Man destroys a satellite calc:
•Scene.
Height = 167.4km.
2×tan(70°/2)×167400×265/1441 = 43111.598338m (43.111598338km).
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Amazon Allen the Alien tosses a satellite calc:
•Scene.
•Typically, based off multiple satellite models irl, the height of the main satellite twice that of
the diameter, as is the height of the solar wing to its width.
Satellite solar wings would require us to use rectangular prism volume formula, which is
Volume = LWH.
•Satellites are typically made of aluminium, whilst their solar wings are typically made of
silicon.
•Since the satellite in the feat doesn’t seem to be one that astronauts and workers inhabit
and is just used for monitoring, I will assume it is only 20% hollow.
244822.361047×0.8 = 195857.888838kg.
71128.529958×2 = 142257.059916kg.
•Both wings would be 0% hollow as their only job is to absorb solar energy to power the
satellite.
•We know that Allen vs Invincible fighting took place in very low orbit, so, in order to keep an
orbit at such low altitudes, the minimum value the satellite would need to be moving at would
be 7.8 km/s (7800 m/s). Allen stopped its horizontal velocity completely and threw it in the
exact opposite direction it was flying in.
FOR FORCE:
->A newton-metre is the product of either force of one newton acting perpendicularly to the
end of a moment arm with a length of one metre or the line of action of 1 Newton acting over
a metre’s distance. This measurement is commonly used to express torque, but can also be
used to quantify work or energy, in which case it is equivalent to the joule, the standard SI
unit of energy.
•Allen extended his arm around a metre when grabbing, flinging and letting go of the satellite:
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Amazon Omni-Man casually cracks a mountain
calc:
•Scene.
•A magnitude 6.6 earthquake made comparable (but less) damage to a mountain than
Omni-Man’s punch.
•Using this calculator, the seismic energy in waves radiated from an Earthquake source is
around 5.011872e+14J//119.8 Kilotons of TNT (Large Town level).
FOR FORCE:
->A newton-metre is the product of either force of one newton acting perpendicularly to the
end of a moment arm with a length of one metre or the line of action of 1 Newton acting over
a metre’s distance. This measurement is commonly used to express torque, but can also be
used to quantify work or energy, in which case it is equivalent to the joule, the standard SI
unit of energy.
•Seeing as how he was nearly a mile away from the mountain he cracked, this punch
was probably far more powerful; at farther distances the amplitude of the seismic
waves decreases as the energy released by the earthquake spreads throughout a
larger volume of Earth. Also with increasing distance from the earthquake, the waves
are separated apart in time and dispersed because P, S and surface waves travel at
different speeds.
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Amazon Invincible tosses a baseball around the
globe calc:
•Scene.
Time-frame to circumnavigate the globe = 5.56s.
FOR FORCE:
->A newton-metre is the product of either force of one newton acting perpendicularly to the
end of a moment arm with a length of one metre or the line of action of 1 Newton acting over
a metre’s distance. This measurement is commonly used to express torque, but can also be
used to quantify work or energy, in which case it is equivalent to the joule, the standard SI
unit of energy.
•Mark’s arm extended around 1m forward to produce the force to propel the ball after leaving
his hand.
Nolan’s force:
•Omni-man seemed to stop the ball immediately, without his arm moving back as
much as an inch. Assuming, at most, his hand moved back 0.01m (1cm) to completely
stop the ball’s motion:
—Comic version of the feat(s) likely had the same time-frame since Kirkman wrote
both.
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Amazon Omni-Man holds a small mountain calc:
•Scene.
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Scaling & Statements/Intent:
•”They punched a planet and it blew up.” — - Robert Kirkman.
•Source:
•Source:
•Thragg states 37 Viltrumites are enough to physically tear Earth in half, i.e.
surpassing Earth’s GBE (2.24e+32J), so each Viltrumite would output
6.0541e+30J//1.447 Zettatons of TNT (Small Planet level); if done over a distance
of 1km, the force each Viltrumite would exert would be 6.0541e+27N//617.35
sextillion tons of force. ~ The statement makes sense NOT to be hyperbole in
context, seeing as Thragg always talks literally in his threats, but also
mentions “it would be fair retaliation for what you did to our home world”,
which indicates it is equal to busting Viltrum in magnitude and by definition. He
also describes the consequence of doing such a thing would be “killing every
living creature here”, which lends more credibility to this statement:
•“Remember how I punched right through the planet along with you and Thaedus?”
— - Mark:
•Unopa was destroyed/blown up by Viltrumites:
Omni-Man’s division was the one in charge with conquering/attacking Unopa:
•Conquest implies that Viltrumites cannot get stronger with anger, yet Mark clearly
can. This is likely due to his partly-human biology, which gives him adrenal glands
(which secrete adrenaline):
Nolan later confirmed Mark managed to kill Conquest (in their second fight) due to
rage and adrenaline:
Therefore, hysterical strength is exclusive to Mark, and not other pure-blooded
Viltrumites. Additionally, another Viltrumite had told Omni-Man how anger doesn’t
help him in a fight, but actually makes him easier to defeat:
Furthermore, it is canonical that Viltrumite half-breeds often inherit features from their
other other side, as Oliver did, which helped him survive in space (after having his
arm ripped off and jaw, knocked off):
Kirkman confirms this fact too:
Kirkman also reaffirms the aforementioned premise of Conquest being stronger than
Mark, and Mark winning due to adrenaline:
He even goes as far as to say Conquest was “far” stronger than Mark:
•Source:
•Source:
•In response to a fan commenting under one of his fanart commissions that Thanos “topples
entire planets”, Ryan Ottley replies with “Omni-Man has too”:
•Allen the Alien could virtually destroy the entirety of the Viltrumite prison’s structure
with a single punch:
The prison, within itself, was already a massive structure, reminiscent to a floating
city (of sorts), housing thousands of the worst prisoners of Viltrum empire:
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