new sex position were you dont touch at all. in fact one of you dies
The fact that Itachi haters use this fan art to "remind" Itachi fans, and then ignore the rest that Kishimoto worked on himself.
and..
(and many other instances but you get the point?)
Like. I get it people want to get back at Itachi fans for whatever reason, but they don't need to remind us of anything. Because, we know.
We love Itachi because we don't reduce him to just that one part of his character. He killed people. He must've killed innocent people too. That goes without saying.
But. He plans his own execution. He plans his own punishment, precisely because he finds what he did to be so utterly despicable. He goes to the extent of forcefully prolonging his life so he could be rightfully punished for what he'd done, rather than finding an easy way out of his miseries through an early death.
Even then, he doesn't treat his death as an escape. He does it all, because he thinks it would give Sasuke a chance to survive against the people who would inevitably hound him once he's dead. Akatsuki, Danzo, Konoha.
For all the right reasons, Itachi is easier to love, despite the glaring flaws he has and all the messed up things he does. Because, he's the one character who shows tremendous remorse, has no self-pity, and ensure he isn't seen as a good person.
Sure, murdering his clan isn't a heroic deed, and he doesn't see it that way either. Torturing Sasuke, even if he thought was necessary, he doesn't make excuses for that. And when he heroically saves people in the war, he is happier not being given any credit.
Not just that, he dies giving Sasuke the comfort that if he chooses to destroy everything he sacrificed himself for, he would still love him. He dies without even knowing Sasuke chose to preserve what Itachi had left behind.
Itachi has these moments of self awareness and selflessness, despite some of the obvious selfishness he exhibits, that makes him devastating and his story becomes more and more heartbreaking.
His story is so sad and he gets sympathy, not because we believe it to be the absence of his flaws, but because those flaws give him depth and make those contradictions beautiful.
Itachi fans don't need to be reminded anything. Haters just need to stop making the things up.
I don't understand people who say Itachi was abusive or are even anti Itachi. He was seven when he started training, he was given extremely high responsibilities by a bunch of adult who were using him for their own agendas. He had no say, he was under such insurmountable pressure. Imagine being a 13 year old child, and being told that you are the only thing standing between the your country and its annihilation. Imagine being 13 and being told your entire family must fall, at your hands.
No one to defend you, to argue for you. No one to share your burdens with.
He was an exploited child who clearly hated himself for what he did. No one would be able to punish Itachi more for what he did than Itachi himself. Yes it was wrong of him to put Sasuke through the suffering of watching his entire family die over and over again. It was horrible for Sasuke, traumatizing, but he HAD just fucking finished killing his entire family, forced to do so by Konoha. He was traumatized, he was taking awful decisions.
Sasuke clearly loved him despite the hurt he caused. Like Itachi is very clearly the victim, through and through. He loved Sasuke, he was a child, and he never got the chance to rely on anyone enough to unpack the horrors that had been inflicted upon him. Like he responded poorly but Itachi is not the person you should be looking to. He had no real power.
Itachi doesn't deserve any of the shit he gets, because he's the only one who has the self awareness to understand what he did was horrible. That's the whole point of what he does, beside his intentions, and whatever path he takes, the onus of the outcome still lies on him.
His antis keep forcing their political views on him, which is a little weird, because you're supposed to see the character's POV, not force your own on his condition that you never lived through yourself.
He will warm up to you eventually.
Mf really thought he was saving face.
Ok, but I also feel like Itachi, being incredibly perceptive, might have been able to figure out what Kakashi was doing when he said he liked p**n. Then young Itachi has a lil crisis about it. Like, does he say something to Kakashi? Pretend he doesn't know while coming back to ANBU each day hoping there's no bad news? Does he slip Kakashi a help holine number? Report it to clinical services? Would that get Kakashi barred from service, leaving him unemployed and unable to pay rent? Would drive Itachi mad.
ITS 10 AM AND I AM CRYING OVER THE DEAR BROTHER DORIAN&DANIEL POST HOW COULD YOU DOING THIS TO ME (;﹏;)(ˊ̥̥̥̥̥ ³ ˋ̥̥̥̥̥)(๑⃙⃘°̧̧̧ㅿ°̧̧̧๑⃙⃘)
because thats what i do hehe
but yea pretend this happened sssh no tears only dreams now
“sasuke. i am a ninja. early morning weather won’t kill me”
“ANIKI NO IM NOT TAKING THAT CHANCE”
(itachi secretly enjoys sasuke fussing sshh)
You know I have a soft spot for the arts in which Itachi is taken care of. ❤️
Another one from a server exchange a little while back. I’m trying to get more into comics. This one was a lot of fun to do! Shisui angst is the best angst lol
"Itachi will burn in hell for his atrocities"
Babe, Itachi died with contentment that he'd finally done things right. That he had told the truth and he didn't have to worry about things anymore. That he could leave the world with love and affection rather than anger and hate. The only time he was at peace was when he was dying the second time. There's no way he would even go towards the doorstep of hell, let alone burn in it.
Beautiful, gorgeous men don't go to hell. Go cry more about it, Haters.
blaming itach for what he did to sasuke when he himself was a kid (13yo!!!!) and had to deal with such a complex situation while the council & the third hokage (fully grown adults) literally pulled the strings behind is crazy
don’t blame de victim blame the system
sasuke was so right in his vendetta against the village
Itachi could have handled the whole thing with Sasuke better but he was also a kid, who wanted Sasuke to survive at any cost. It was a messy situation. Not excusable but understandable.
college au shisui hits different
Interesting Itachi notes
(And a bit more about his ancestors because it’s relevant)
Alright, well, I did not anticipate my Kisame list to be so popular — apparently some of that was NOT common fandom knowledge lol. So I figure why not do the same with his partner, especially after I’ve done labors of love to find this information over the years lol
- Starting with VA’s first, once again the boy gets duped by translators. I will forever not forgive Crispin Freeman for not cutting loose like he usually does (I.e. Alucard from Hellsing) because it would have matched the energy of the way Itachi speaks in Japanese so much better lol. Contrary to English speaking fandom interpretation, Itachi talks in Japanese pretty much exactly the way Sasuke does (sassy, scathingly sarcastic, dramatic), minus the cussing and with a few more odd word choices. Itachi is fond of, not puns, precisely, but using words and phrases that have deliberately obscure or double meanings. Which is terribly ironic because he’s very direct and to-the-point about a lot of things; he does in fact mince his words, but he also doesn’t waste time talking at length unless he needs to explain something, but even then he is usually pretty short and almost, if not actually, rude about it. He also is, true to fandom interpretation, rather philosophical, which gives him a pretty idiosyncratic way of speaking; he’s bordering on rudely casual (with other Akatsuki members) if not outright being a bratty lil shit (Kisame, and when he’s dissing Madara to Sasuke) but he’s also patently well versed. He reminds me the most of Sasuke and Kakashi when he talks if that helps lol it’s so hard to explain
- HOWEVER there’s one exception right at the beginning: when Itachi encounters Kakashi during their trip to Konoha, his entire (informal, rude-ish) register changes, and kicks up to a more polite but still familiar one. He essentially talks to Kakashi like he’s an old colleague, which he is, but that’s really the first clue we get about that. He noticeably does Not treat Asuma or Kurenai that way; only Kakashi gets referred to as Kakashi-san, which I can only imagine Kisame had lots of questions about after the fact lolll
- According to the Hiden and interviews with Kishimoto He’s basically a pseudo-piscivarian, in that he largely prefers to eat vegetables, especially crunchy ones like cabbage and peppers, and actually detests beef and most meat* . That said, we see him eat fish and chicken in canon, so he probably doesn’t mind white meats. Consensus on pork is non existent. He also, yes, prefers sweet foods, but also likes bitter things. His least favorite flavor profiles are Umami/savory (beef, mushrooms), acidic or spicy food and anything oily or fatty. (He shares the latter in common with Sasuke, though he’s the polar opposite in pretty much every other regard.)
- His “hobby” according to Kishimoto is visiting traditional tea houses/shops. He really likes tea, and the relaxed atmosphere is soothing to him. Conversely, and unsurprisingly, he doesn’t like visiting bars or other “crowded” places.
- Speaking of hobbies and habits, yes, Itachi does like to cook and clean. There’s canon evidence for this, but Kishi also has confirmed it in interviews.
- The Itachi Shinden novel implies that he’s at least baseline knowledgeable about traditional medicine. (More on that later) Whether that’s normal-ish knowledge for ninja, an Uchiha thing, or a quirk of his is unclear. Kakashi has similar knowledge, and he’s a total bookworm, so perhaps they are both simply well read lol.
- Maybe it’s well known, but I don’t often see people acknowledging that Itachi 1, specializes in gathering Intel, and 2. That he worked closely with Konoha’s intel division consequently. This is acknowledged directly late in the series by Aoba, Itachi’s genin sensei, who also works for Intel under Ibiki.
- I’ve mentioned this in another post, but his name has a triple/quadruple meaning— “Itachi” does translate to “weasel”, but it’s also an old catch-all term for any shape-shifting Youkai, though in particular it’s often associated with Tanuki. It’s also a derogatory term for people that are dubiously trustworthy or whose intentions aren’t always clear, as well as a descriptive word whose best English equivalent is the word “skulking”, or moving around like a fox, acting benign or innocent but clearly up to something.
- As a related aside, the in-canon reason for his name probably comes from Izuna, in that he was possibly named after him. “Izuna” translates as “stoat/ermine” — like a mini weasel but far more vicious lol. The name Izuna has multiple meanings also, but is a far more common old name because ermines, the winter form of a stoat, were prized for their snow white pelt— consequently, “Izuna” as a descriptor refers to something that’s pure white, or something that’s easily tainted because of its purity (like ermine pelts, which stain easily).** Which gives Madara’s name, meaning “speckled/blotched/piebald/particolour” at the surface and has a double, derogatory meaning of “blemished, scarred, (as by smallpox)”*** some degree of irony lol.
- Back to Itachi though —
- Let’s talk about his fighting style: there’s no official data about this, but if you watch martial arts enough it’s fairly obvious that Itachi specifically uses a very Aikido inspired style— aikido is a Japanese martial art that began in Korea, and it specializes in non-lethal disarmament by way of holding or locking an opponent into a particular position where they can’t do shit until they exhaust themselves or give up lol. It’s also a defensive style that relies on the opponent doing most of the attacking, with, again, the intent of the Aikido being to arrest their movements or otherwise disarm them principally by using their own attacks/momentum against them, and by feinting dodges to direct their attacks into prime grappling/locking position. Philosophically, Aikido strongly emphasizes non-violence and is more of a self defense art. A classic example of this that he (sort of) uses in canon is when he (as his fake self) locked Kakashi’s clone into a neck hold that forced eye contact — that is based on an actual move in Aikido that is designed to communicate intent and read the opponent’s, but in his case it just happens to work fantastically with his abilities lol. Probably the reason Kishi chose it as the basis of his moveset.
- Speaking of abilities, again there’s no official data on it, but from canon interpretation it’s pretty clear that Itachi’s Genjutsu abilities (especially the Tsukiyomi) rely on the opponent seeing him, not the other way around. He can be totally blind (and in the manga at least he mostly is) and his powers still work fine as long as they seek out eye contact with him. Nearest we can tell the base sharingan works in a similar way, but also requires the user to at least be able to see their victims chakra; it can however be used to enhance other genjutsu that doesn’t originate from the Sharingan itself, as evidenced by Sai’s encounter with Sasuke, so 🤷♀️. Who knows how it works; I was just thinking about the fact Itachi doesn’t need hand signs to cast a genjutsu even with just his base sharingan active. He could’ve been bluffing Naruto, but if it’s true that the Sharingan can enhance a genjutsu already cast, it would lend itself to explaining that ability. (Or, in HC territory, maybe he’s taught himself to project some of the Sharingan’s power, much like Shisui could.)
- Evidence that Itachi’s illness is probably respiratory comes from two things — in the Shinden novel, he uses an herb called Japanese Knotweed in English, which has medicinal uses principally related to the lungs and heart, since it’s a bronchodilator, and two, from the fact that any time a character in Naruto is severely ill they all seem to have respiratory diseases lol. Hayate dying of what looks like tuberculosis, side characters on their sickbeds with coughs, etc. there’s a cultural and industry reason why that’s so — one, lung diseases are ✨dramatic✨ and two, just like how the Victorians romanticized “consumption” (aka, tuberculosis) Japan did something very similar after an outbreak hit Kyoto in the late 1800’s, probably from a different strain brought by Dutch ships. So the image is engrained.
To add a few notes:
* The fact Itachi hates beef and isn’t fond of meat has…potentially interesting, implications. Meat, especially beef,= masculinity in Japan, so being vegetarian has long since been a very UnMasculine thing to do, and therefore is associated with cross dressers and Queer men in Japan. That he also appreciates feminine pastimes like cooking, cleaning, and tea houses (and by extension ceremonies) sets up a bit of a queer code for him lol.
** I’m not done talking about Izuna lol because, as you’d expect, it’s very often a girl name. Because yknow, purity culture stuff. Yeah Japan had it too.
*** a historical note about Madara because I just can’t justify making another list for him, 1. Madara is a common name for calico cats, especially rare male calicos, and 2. It’s not surprising that there’s a ton of correlation between Madara and historical Nobunaga, but I honestly think he got his name partly because of a stand out feature Nobunaga had — he was severely scarred from smallpox as a child. So it’s possible, though there aren’t historical accounts of it, that he might’ve been jeered at with the derogatory form of Madara. Certainly Oda Nobunaga’s clan fucking hated him lol
Anyway, I’m done for now unless I think of something else. Do with this information what you will. 🕊️