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"a man-woman— a double-being, doubly powerful" i'm s (he/him or it/its) and i post about multigender things.

About me

My name's S and I use he/him or it/its pronouns. My genders are binary man + unlabeled butch. Labels are funky but I usually call myself a bigender man or monomultigender. My pronouns page is here. This is my blog where I post about multigender stuff.

I obviously like talking about being multigender so I very much appreciate receiving asks about gender stuff! Sometimes I take a little while to respond but I promise I'm still grateful for the ask.

FAQ

What does multigender mean?

You can read my definition here

I'm questioning if I might be multigender, how do I figure it out?

The short answer is, experiment with different labels and identities and see what makes you happy. It's okay to not know for sure. For longer answers, look through my questioning tag.

What is transmultiphobia?

Transmultiphobia refers to discrimination against multigender people. Many people, even within the queer community, view different genders (often male + female, but not always) as mutually exclusive. This can result in erasing, disrespecting, or outright excluding multigender identities. (more here)

What's the difference between genderfluid and multigender?

Some genderfluid people identify as multigender, some don't. Genderfluid people are welcome in the multigender community if they'd like to be included. For some people, multigender means that they are ALWAYS multiple genders, but for some people, it means that they are sometimes multiple genders or that they are fluid between different genders. Labels can mean different things to different people and that's okay.

Can I be multigender even if I'm not a man and a woman?

Yes.

[literally anything about lesbian discourse, mspec lesbians, or male lesbians]?

I got tired of repeating the same arguments, the answer to your question is probably here somewhere: Masterpost on lesbian discourse

Multigender Combination Frequency Map

I got bored, so I started playing around with numbers. I was curious, what is the most common multigender combination that exists? As a specific example, are agender men more common than non-binary women? Well thanks to the gender census 2024 data, I found that out:

PERCENTAGES:

Ordered from least to most common, the percentage of census participants that identified as:

Agender Woman | 0.02% Agender Non-Binary Woman | 0.15% Just a Woman | 0.24% Agender Man | 0.36% Agender Man Woman | 0.37% Non-Binary Woman | 0.73% Just a Man | 1.71% Agender Man Non-Binary | 2.02% Man Woman | 2.74% Just Agender | 2.99% Agender Man Non-Binary Woman | 3.84% Man Non-Binary | 6.16% None of these umbrellas OR did not answer gender identity related questions | 10.46% Man Non-Binary Woman | 12.89% Agender Non-Binary | 13.97% Just Non-Binary | 41.34%

MAP:

This is a map (where pink = highest in frequency, and blue = lowest in frequency) that represents the order of frequency based on the values above. To help explain:

Agender Woman = #1 = very blue,

Agender Non-Binary Woman = #2 = blue

Non-Binary = #15 = very pink

Agender = #10 = both pink and blue (purple)

KEY POINTS:

For some reason, agender women don't exist (joke). I have some theories of why this is the case but it's probably a bit too political for Tumblr lol. Many individuals seem satisfactory as just describing themselves as off the binary, or off the binary and slightly agender. Overall, most individuals seem to identify with two or more of these genders rather than one binary gender. But this multigendered percentage is nearly the same frequency as those who identify as just non-binary.

DISCLAIMER:

It is not representative of the general populace, it is representative of individuals who are not solely cisgender binary (as according to the census description). For example, do not take this as "Wow, only 1.71% of the human population are just men!". Instead, take this as "Wow, only 1.71% of genderqueer individuals are just men!".

CALCULATIONS:

This is how I found these numbers.

1. I copied the raw data from gender census form. 2. I created a filter that checked for any mention of man, woman, non-binary, agender, AND their variants such as guy, enby, genderless, etc. I removed any mentions of "Not man", "non woman", etc. as these anti- terms are too ambiguous to work with for this specific research. (thank you for existing, regex) 3. I simplified these terms into just woman, man, non-binary, or agender. I realise that some individuals identify as boys and not men specifically, but for the sake of this research - we're looking at the overall gender umbrella, not the specific language used. 4. I created a count for each possible combination of these four genders. 5. I divided each count out of the total results to get the percentage.

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P.S. Thanks to my Discord server members for helping me test out the concept with a smaller sample.

hello, could i ask for some recommendations about genderfluidity? (specifically genderfluidity as it is most commonly defined today, in which you have gender(s) that fluctuate. clarifying because i’ve seen it defined similarly to genderqueer or transgender before.) historical figures or books preferred, but i’d really be happy with anything

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Hmm, as a genderfluid person myself, I think the story of Zinaida Gippius has resonated with my experience better than any other historical figure, so they might be worth checking out!

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I do love it when assholes go on about the boygirl fagdykes being A Type Of Cringey And Annoying Trans Person [and we're definitely not calling them trenders, we totally see them as real trans people and believe in their individual connections to their identities as more than a fad, we swear, their identity won't be one of the first things we attack if they disagree with us] as though Every trans person hasn't been the Cringey And Annoying Trans Person at some point.

I used to identify as boygirl. Then I matured a little, and now I identify as a Transgender Manwoman. Partly because of that broader conceptualisation of "boygirl" as a fad gender, and partly because - well, I'm not a boy, I'm a man. I'm not a girl, I'm a grown ass woman.

Still a fagdyke though <3 Multigender faggotry and dykery forever.

A lot of folks in the trans community are terrified of being infantilised - for completely understandable reasons - I believe, however, this sometimes manifests in a nasty cringe response to anyone who self identifies with language which is seen as infantilising. You see this with the term "enby" as well.

I don't think many people have actually thought too hard about why they have this kind of cringe response to these words. But the truth is that nonbinary language was developed, by and large, by young people, on the fly. So some of it maybe does sound kinda silly, because it was often made by literal teenagers to use for their own purposes ("joyfriend").

I really don't think this is an issue. It is fine to have fun words for young queer people. And it is perfectly fine if adults use these words for themselves, also. So many trans people were denied their youth, I couldn't give two shits if that 45 year old is calling themselves an enby and covering their jackets in bright ass pronoun pins. The issue is that there are not analogous words to use for adults who do want more mature sounding language.

"Enby" has always been posited as analogous to "boy" or "girl", and I've always used it that way. However, I've seen very few proposed terms for an adult nonbinary person - enben is one I've seen, but it's not really caught on, likely due to its linguistic proximity to enby (note how "boy" and "man" & "girl" and "woman" are completely different words with completely different linguistic roots).

People mock nonbinary family terms, because yeah - when thousands of people are feeling around in the dark to create an entire new category of de-gendered and re-gendered language, sometimes it sounds silly. Yeah, yeah, I'd rather you call me a slur, whatever. But you know who loves the term "nibling" ("niece, nephew, nibling")? My old-ass aunty who didn't know what else to call me when I came out as non-binary. She is grateful to have a word she can use without misgendering me. She uses it when she talks about me on her Facebook and she explains it to all her friends. She writes it in birthday cards where she would have formerly written "niece". Allies love this shit, and real allies help to normalise our existence in day-to-day life. They don't waste time mocking or questioning the words we have. They just get on with it.

Boygirls are often not taken seriously and actively infantalised because of the way they identify their gender. This is why I made the switch - I want to be taken seriously. And it seems to have worked somewhat, I've not had anyone call attention to it in an attempt to discredit my opinion yet, as they used to with "boygirl".

However, whatever your personal hangups on language, there is no excuse to infantilise someone or discard their opinion based on their identity.

This type of infantilistic exorsexism is frustrating due to how frequently the people parroting it make out that the majority of people identifying as "boygirls" are trans people who were AFAB and still "have the presentation of a waifish cis woman" (quoted from a post I saw today, to which I'd like to ask: what does a cis woman look like? and why is this type of trans person a problem?) who utilise their "weird" gender identities in order to obfuscate real problems and shut down discussions because they're too stupid to realise they don't experience real transphobia. And it's frustrating especially due to how close this particular rhetoric comes to mimicking the TERF supposition that many trans folks who were AFAB are autistic, stupid, and infantile, and just using their gender to escape misogyny.

Idk. Sometimes I think about how we need to develop more useful, mature language for non-binary trans folks to use in order for people to actually take our conversations seriously. And sometimes I think it just could not be more clear that some trans people still hate it when other people do gender in a way they don't personally like.

Exactly.

I would really like more options for "mature" language for personal & professional reasons, but it really shouldn't matter what the widely accepted terms are when it comes to legitimate discussion. Mocking the accepted non-binary language IS transphobic and exorsexist. And it happens every single time a new term is coined. It's not an accident.

Many non-binary people do it too (I would argue it's a significant part of why entirely unaligned non-binary people seem to be far less accounted for in certain trans spaces than they were a few years ago, in favour of presenting all trans people as "transmasc" or "transfem" - non-binary people have often been made to feel cringe calling themselves non-binary and advocating for their space in the conversation. I've felt it myself). But we all have to learn to clamp down on that cringe response if we expect to dismantle bioessentialism, gender essentialism, and sex essentialism, because inherently accepting non-binary people and all kinds of "weird" genders is essential to that cause.

shout-out to all the she/her guys, dudes, and gentlemen, the he/him girls, chicks, and ladies, and most of all, those who are both

"If you support trans man lesbians you also have to support cis man lesbians" yeah cool other people's sexual orientation labels are not my business 👍🏻

As long as he's not trolling why should we exclude a guy who genuinely feels their attraction to women is queer/sapphic/lesbian/etc? This is how a few trans girls & nonbinary folk I've met realized they were trans, they realized they were a lesbian before coming to terms with the fact they're a woman / not actually a guy. And you know what, that's literally fucking fine. Not to mention, sometimes using the 'wrong' sexuality labels for your gender can be a form of gender nonconformity. Gnc/genderqueer guy finds it validating to identify as a lesbian? Awesome. Cool as hell.

If you want to get mad at creepy cishet guys creeping on lesbians, DO THAT. I don't think any of those people genuinely believes they are a lesbian, if they're saying that, they're trolling. In general I don't think any non-queer guy is going to genuinely find comfort in labeling themselves as a lesbian. Don't attack queer folk with weird genders or people still figuring shit out when you mean to be gunning for chasers and predators.

I feel like we don't talk enough about how "cis men genuinely identifying as lesbians in good faith" not only exist, but are often just closeted, questioning, or unaware of their true gender. As in, they're not actually cis men.

Hell, sometimes they're literally just trans lesbians who are open about their identity as women/genderqueer* people, but get misgendered and thrown into the "cis man" category. Did we all forget about how "men can't be lesbians" is a transmisogynistic dogwhistle?

Cis men (or "cis men") earnestly calling themselves lesbians are probably genderqueer.* And even if they aren't, who cares? It doesn't affect you. And if they're "identifying as lesbians" with the intent of trolling you or harassing you, you will likely be able to tell by additional information.

For example:

  • If someone insists that you have to give them a chance sexually/romantically because "I'm a lesbian," they're either not actually a lesbian, or weaponizing their identity against you. Either way, this is harassment. Identifying in a certain way doesn't give you the right to date or have sex with someone, even if you're identifying that way in earnest.
  • If someone insists that you have to give them a chance sexually/romantically because "lesbians can be/like men," the same applies. Some lesbians like men, or are men themselves, but this is not always (or even usually) the case. Even when it is the case, consent is imperative. Bi lesbians and lesboys still have the right to say "no."
  • If someone is generally homophobic/lesbophobic/transphobic, does not typically identify as a lesbian, using their "identity" as a weapon, and is not taking themselves seriously, they're probably trolling. You know those videos where Steven Crowder pretends to be a woman as a way to dunk on actual women (especially trans women and their allies)? It's like that. You can tell they're trolling because the "identity" is satirical and inconsistent with their usual beliefs and actions.

Notice that "identifying as a lesbian" is not the problem in any of these points. The problem is their behavior, and their weaponizing of the lesbian identity.

I'm a trans man. I used to identify as a lesboy because I wasn't confident in my manhood, and have since moved past that. I don't consider myself a lesbian (nor sapphic) now, and I also wouldn't date anyone who identifies as a lesbian, because it would make me dysphoric.

I was wrong about being a lesboy, but being wrong about it didn't make the exclusion feel any better. I was working through my shit, and was met with exclusion and suspicion in many cases. When I identified as a lesboy, what I needed was a supportive, inclusive, and accepting community. What I often got instead was derision, exclusion, and debates over my "validity" as a lesbian. Sometimes I was treated like a predator, or like I was "invading" a safe space for lesbians. (Does this sound familiar?)

I fully support people's right to earnestly identify as lesboys/lesbian men, whether that's as a stepping stone to their true identity, or just reflective of their complicated experience with gender and attraction.

I think that there's something to be said about identifying as a lesbian when a man you're attracted to feels uncomfortable with that. I strongly believe that you should either change your label at that point, or be quiet about your attraction to them, because misgendering people through your label is still misgendering.

This is true even if you identify as a lesbian in a way that is inclusive to men (e.g. bi lesbian, lesboy), because the word still has strong woman-centric connotations (similar to how calling someone "girl" in a way intended to be gender neutral can still be misgendering). People have expressed attraction to me while identifying as lesbians... It doesn't feel good. If you're attracted to me while continuing to identify as a lesbian, don't tell me, because I don't want to know. I don't care if I'm "the exception" because that still sucks.

Still, I don't think manhood is always outright incompatible with lesbian identity, whether you're attracted to men, or a man yourself. The only thing that matters is how the person experiencing the attraction, and those they're attracted to, feel about it. These things are not always so cut and dry, and I would rather accidentally include the wrong person than accidentally exclude the wrong person.

And yes, if you're inclusive of AFAB lesboys, but not AMAB lesboys, this is transphobic. Basing inclusion on AGAB is transphobic. To the people who think they're being inclusive or enlightened by saying "trans men can be lesbians, but not cis men," I want you to think real hard about what you're implying. Trans men do not have an inherent "closer proximity to womanhood" than cis men. Likewise, trans women do not have a "closer proximity to manhood" than cis women.

*I use genderqueer as an umbrella for "anyone with a queer relationship to gender," including those who are trans, nonbinary, GNC, or otherwise subvert the cultural gender expectations placed upon them at birth/during development. In other words, having a queer gender modality, identity, or expression.

"If you support trans man lesbians you also have to support cis man lesbians" yeah cool other people's sexual orientation labels are not my business 👍🏻

As long as he's not trolling why should we exclude a guy who genuinely feels their attraction to women is queer/sapphic/lesbian/etc? This is how a few trans girls & nonbinary folk I've met realized they were trans, they realized they were a lesbian before coming to terms with the fact they're a woman / not actually a guy. And you know what, that's literally fucking fine. Not to mention, sometimes using the 'wrong' sexuality labels for your gender can be a form of gender nonconformity. Gnc/genderqueer guy finds it validating to identify as a lesbian? Awesome. Cool as hell.

If you want to get mad at creepy cishet guys creeping on lesbians, DO THAT. I don't think any of those people genuinely believes they are a lesbian, if they're saying that, they're trolling. In general I don't think any non-queer guy is going to genuinely find comfort in labeling themselves as a lesbian. Don't attack queer folk with weird genders or people still figuring shit out when you mean to be gunning for chasers and predators.

Sometimes I wonder if I can split myself in half or pick the parts I want to be white and the ones I want to be Indian. Can I name my almond-shaped eyes white and my right popping and creaking knee Indian? Can I pick my light skin, name it Indian and call my high cheekbones, which squeeze my eyes shut when I smile wide, white? Can I tear myself apart and put myself back together to name what part of me is butch and what part trans? My right eyebrow butch and my large chest trans. And if I can choose the parts of my body that belong to each identity, can I choose which ones fight each other for the right to be here, take up space, and be recognized? [...] There is a roar inside of me that I have choked off more times than I care to count. A place of duality that I neither fully understand nor want to claim because it seems easier to blend in. This place is so deeply rooted inside me; sometimes I wonder at the Creator's sense of humor. I'm both Indian and white, man and woman.

"Split Myself Apart" by Redwolf Painter, from Persistence: All Ways Butch and Femme

I’ve been questioning being multigender and thinking about using any/all pronouns. The problem is that I can’t stop wondering, what’s the point? People will only choose he. Because I look like a guy. I dress masculine. Or I think I do. I’m not sure what my personal style is. I don’t have many clothes that belong to me alone. A DnD shirt, red basketball shorts, and lime green dangly earrings. I don’t know. What’s the point?

-W

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I think the pronouns are worth trying out if you think you'd like them. If people mostly use he/him for you, you can try calling them out on it and specifically requesting they use other pronouns, though I understand confronting people like that is difficult for you. There might be people in your life who use different pronouns for you without even needing to be asked, or maybe you'll find new people who affirm your gender. If you're in a place where you're able to, you can try experimenting with different styles and figure out what you like. The point is to try and be happy & I wish the best for you

This took way longer than I expected lol. It's posted to instagram on multigender.awareness . Happy Multigender Awareness Day!

[ID: 15 Slides with a blue, pink and purple gradient background and mainly black text, about Multigender Awareness goes as follows.

  1. The first slide has a purple and pink gradient circle in the middle, with the text "Happy First Annual Multigender Awareness Day!" within it, and at the bottom, has a white arrow pointing to the right, with text that says "Swipe to become aware of multigender experiences".
  2. The second slide asks the question, "What does it mean to be multigender?" with the definition below within a white outline, stating, "To experience more than one gender. The genders can be alternating, distinct or blurred, constant or fluctuating." Below that, there is more text that says, in boldened letters, "Contrary to popular misunderstanding, most multigender people are not fluid. We experience our genders at the same time, not switching back and forth. However, genderfluid does fall under the multigender umbrella! Regardless of whether one shifts between only one gender or more at a time."
  3. The third slide poses the question, "What does it look like to be multigender?" And the answer in bold yellow letters and chromatic aberration says, "Anything!" Below that, it continues the explanation in normal text. "Same as everyone else, gender presentation does not equal gender identity. We may choose to present as a single gender every day, switch it up (maybe because we're fluid, or maybe randomly), combine associated traits of our genders at the same time, etc." Below that, there is a note, highlighted in gold. "Names: Multigender people may use one name (gendered or gender-neutral), or we may use multiple names. Some want their names to be switched up (the way pronouns are). Some want their names to be used together as a unit (a double first name, like Jean-Marie, Ana Maria, or Minnie Bruce)."
  4. The fourth slide also asks the question "What does it look like to be multigender?" Below is highlighted text in multiple colors. The first highlighted text in purple says, "Pronouns: Multigender people may or may not use: pronouns correlated with each of our genders, only one set of pronouns, many pronoun sets, neopronouns, it/its, all pronouns, or no pronouns." Beneath that is text highlighted in light pink, "People who are both men and women commonly use both he/him and she/her, but not they/them. Once you know someone's pronouns, don't include they/them, it's not okay to use they/them!" And lastly, there is text highlighted in light blue, "Respect multigender people's pronouns as you should for everyone else, and ask for clarification when necessary!"
  5. The fifth slide has a header stating "Multigender Identities: Bigender", with text that follows below, the definition saying, "To have two genders. Although they are commonly man/male and woman/female, they can be any two genders. For example, male and neutrois, woman and butch, maverique and androgyne, and the list goes on." Below that there is a question that says, in bold letters, "Some multigender people identify as bigender even if they don't have exactly 2 genders- Wait, really?" The answer highlighted in white states, "Yes! Because bigender, has a bigger history than multigender, it's many people's first introduction and connection to multigender identity and community. Like bisexual, the bi in bigender, is sometimes used to mean two or more."
  6. The sixth slide continues on from the last one, with the same header, "Multigender Identities: Bigender". Below is text as follows, "There are no restrictions on how the two (or more) genders are balanced. Some bigender people feel that their genders are equal, others that one outweighs the other, and some fluctuate. Bigender people, whose genders are fluid (i.e., experienced sequentially, not simultaneously), or fluctuate may add -fluid or -flux onto the end of the term (bigenderfluid/bigenderflux)." Below are pictures of three different bigender flags, one with seven stripes in muted colors, from top to bottom has magenta, pink, purplish-grey, white, purplish-grey, light blue and blue. The second one with five stripes, colors from top to bottom are pink, yellow, white, purple and blue. And the third flag with seven stripes, colors from top to bottom are blue, light blue, white, purple, white, pink, and dark pink. The text next to the last flag says, "The third one is the most recent redesign and the most popular bigender flag".
  7. The seventh slide has a header that says, "Multigender Identities: Other" with four flags and definitions below. Pangender is first, with a flag that has five stripes in light colors, yellow, pink, lighter pink, white, light pink again, pink and yellow. The definition of pangender is as follows: "Having all genders. As some genders are culturally-specific, those are only included if one belongs to said culture." Following Pangender, to the right is Polygender, with a flag that has five stripes, in the colors of black, grey, pink, yellow and blue, from top to bottom. The definition of polygender: "A synonym to multigender or specific to experiencing multiple genders at the same time. In the past, it meant what non-binary means today." Below pangender, there is Genderfluid, with a flag with five stripes, top to bottom, are pink, white, bright purple, black and blue. The definition of genderfluid: "Switches between genders. A popular label, so there's lots of information about genderfluid experiences out there!" Lastly, next to genderfluid lays Trigender, with a flag that has five stripes, in the colors top to bottom, pink, light purple, green, light purple, and pink. The definition of trigender: "Having three genders. (A lot of the bigender section applies)." Below that there is highlighted text in pale yellow, "There are lots of other multigender experiences yet to be described with one word!"
  8. The eighth slide has a header that says, "Multigender & Other Identities", following is text highlighted in white that says, "Multigender, itself an umbrella term, falls under the umbrellas of trans and nonbinary. However, multigender individuals may not identify with those terms." Below that there is the trans flag (blue, pink, white, pink, blue) and the nonbinary flag (yellow, white, purple, black) right next to each other, and text below, in blue, that says, "For example, bigenders who have the two binary genders often express feeling very binary!" Next to that is a graphic of an umbrella.
  9. Following, the ninth slide has the same header, "Multigender & Other Identities", below that is black and pink text that says, "Alternate Gender Modalities". Beneath, there several groups of text all highlighted in different colors. A question highlighted in white says, "So, if some multigender people don't identify as trans, then what are they?" Below that is text highlighted in yellow that says, "Cisgender and transgender are both gender modalities, ways of relating to one's gender assigned at birth." Text highlighted in light green follows, "Some people self-describe as both cis and trans, or neither cis nor trans, or words like cisn't/transn't." Next to that there is text that says, "Transfeminine and transmasculine are also gender modalities". Below that there is text highlighted in light blue that says, "Neologisms have been created to describe the variety of experiences people* have! As they are still young, it's yet to be seen, which will be common. One that's gained significant usage is isogender! Isogender simply means neither trans nor cis." The asterisked text says, "*not just multigender; also intersex, plural, demigender and more!"
  10. The tenth slide has a header that says, "Multigender & Other Identities: Intersex". Next to the header is a flag of the intersex flag, yellow and a purple circle in the middle. Text below highlighted in yellow states that "Being intersex is physical. It is not the same thing as being multigender, which is a gender identity. Intersex people can be gender gender; they are not necessarily multigender, but they may be! Whatever their gender identity, it may not be related to their intersex identity." Below that there is regular text saying, "Due to extreme medical discrimination and trauma intersex people face, it is disrespectful to say one wishes they were intersex. You cannot transition to being intersex (especially since there is a very wide variety of conditions that are classified as intersex). There are other ways to describe wanting to have mixed sex-associated traits!"
  11. The eleventh slide continues with a header that says, "Multigender & Other Identities". Below that, there is highlighted in white text that says "Multigender people are not systems by default." Below that there is regular text saying, "This means we don't all have DID/OSDD. We don't all switch alters/self-concepts when we switch genders (but some do). We do not become multigender due to trauma." Beneath there is pale grey highlighted text that says, "However, we welcome and love the system members of our community, whether they identify as multigender because of their experience, or because of one member! ♥"
  12. Following this, the twelfth slide has a header that says, "Problems Multigender people face: Ignorance and erasure". Following says, "Due to lack of representation, our identity is misunderstood, and often confused with non-gender identities or conditions. Many multigender people have extended periods of struggling to understand themselves, because they don't know being multigender is an option. As with other lesser-known identities, it's more daunting to come out when you know you'll have to explain all of this."
  13. Continuing with the same header, the thirteenth slide says, "Problems Multigender people face: Ignorance and erasure". Text below states, "Ways of using names and pronouns, describing gender and sexuality common to multigender people are some of the least normalized: Pronouns options frequently include she/they and he/they, but not he/she. Most people aren't familiar with using multiple names. Denial of multigender sexual/romantic orientation labels is such a big issue that I should have made a page for it, but ran out of time."
  14. Following the previous slide, the header says, "Problems Multigender people face: De-gendering". Following there is text that states, "De-gendering is denying part or all of someone's gender by describing them as/forcing them to be gender-neutral. It is also used against binary trans people (example, calling a trans person they, instead of he or she). Even within queer spaces, multigender people frequently are pressured to pick one gender- for example, things that are only for non-men. People find it hard to understand being both masculine and feminine and not neutral. Pronouns options are just one illustration of this."
  15. The last slide says, "Our genders don't cancel each other out. We can't be limited to one gender. We are multigender and proud."

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oh thank you! i didn't even think of image description because I made this for instagram and posted here as an afterthought... you could have just requested for me to copy-paste the text haha, but this is appreciated!

I'd like to talk for a bit about the genre of post that's like "sure you're a boygirl fagdyke genderfreak but do you respect [trans identity]?" I think these sorts of posts do address a lot of important points, such as:

  • Even if you're genderqueer and going "gender isn't real! smash the binary!" there's a real possibility you haven't unlearned or might still be upholding some very transphobic sentiments, and you should do some introspection about that
  • Some people only want acceptance for their trans identity but don't want to do the work to deconstruct what gender looks like, stop holding other people to their own gendered expectations, and unlearn their internalized bigotry about different trans identities

Sometimes the [trans identity] is specifically relevant to the identities referenced, such as people who will do surface level acceptance of "boygirls" but then call multigender people problematic for using "contradictory" terms like male lesbian, or asking "are you normal about intersex people?" to point out the prevalent intersexism in the multigender community.

But if the [trans identity] or intersex identity being asked about isn't related to multigender community issues, it seems a little strange to consistently single out labels like boygirl and fagdyke that tend to be used by multigender people in these posts. All kinds of trans people can be transphobic about other trans identities. All kinds of trans people are capable of fighting for their own acceptance but not anyone else's. But these posts are pretty frequently just about boygirl fagdykes.

It reminds me of posts about a "theyfab named Sock being transmisogynistic." Are there transmisogynistic FTX nonbinary people? Yes, no one is immune from perpetuating transmisogyny. But these types of posts are still exorsexist.

Similarly, though I'm not saying the pattern of "sure you're a boygirl fagdyke genderfreak but do you respect [trans identity]" is necessarily exorsexist or transmultiphobic, since like I said they do address important points, some of which actually are multigender community issues. But people do use those types of posts to be really transmultiphobic and exorsexist, but in an "acceptable" way, because the boygirls are transphobic so it's okay to hate them.

Some examples in the notes of this sort of post asking 'are you normal about trans women?":

This assumes that multigender identities are only an online thing, only a young person thing, that all multigender people look cis in real life, that no multigender person has experienced real transphobia.

Again, this assumes that no multigender person "looks like a freak" for their gender, that they never struggle with transphobia offline. And straight up saying they have a "huge issue" with girlboy genders.

tags reading "#congrats on your performative titles"
ALT

Multigender labels aren't "performative titles," they're our genders. This person is just straight up admitting they think our genders are fake, that they're only "titles" and not real fucking identities.

"I tend to Not like multigender people" okay so we're just saying the quiet part out loud now

By all means, keep talking about intracommunity transphobia. It's important. But don't throw multigender people under the bus to do so.

I saw another post along these lines equating being a "genderfuck boygirl" with being transmisogynistic (obviously genderfuck boygirls can be transmisogynistic, we all have to unlearn the bigotry that comes with living in a deeply transmisogynistic society, but this post was implying boygirls are automatically more transmisogynistic than the general population). And I feel like these posts always assume that "genderfuck boygirl" and "trans woman" are mutually exclusive categories, as though trans women & fems can't have complex gender identities and identify with manhood/boyhood/masculinity as well.

Sure you can dunk on the genderfuck boygirls but do you respect multigender trans women?

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