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hannibal sideblog.
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Disclaimer: I donโ€™t deny the existence of misogyny or its presence as a problem in fandom spaces. I also donโ€™t know this personโ€™s specific experience within this fandom that led them to consider it the most misogynistic of allโ€”but thatโ€™s their opinion, and theyโ€™re entitled to it. Iโ€™m writing this because this exchange upset me a lot. I know I shouldnโ€™t let what random people say online affect me, but it did.

My problem (aside from the fact that this person seems to believe that liking Hannibal Lecter automatically makes you an evil, sadistic misogynist) is

What the fuck are they talking about? I tried asking them what they meant, but all I got in response were attacks, insults to my intelligence and media literacy, and accusations of being "male-identified."

But am I missing something? When did Hannibal sexually humiliate teenage girls?

Unsolicited advice from an almost-40-year-old:

Donโ€™t engage with this person. Theyโ€™re very strongly accusatory in their opinions, but they donโ€™t know you, and shouldnโ€™t be condemning a stranger based on assumptions. Itโ€™s unkind and unhelpful and deeply, deeply unnecessary in this context for them to act like this.

With that said, I think the โ€œsexually humiliating teenage girlsโ€ is probably a reference to what Hannibal does to the bodies of Cassie Boyle, and, to a lesser degree, Marissa Schuur.

The way Hannibal left Ms. Boyleโ€™s corpse feels somewhat reminiscent of a real murderer who was almost undoubtedly attempting to sexually humiliate his victim (the 1920s press called him โ€œthe Black Dahlia killerโ€, which like, way to glamourize a murderer, asshats).

Itโ€™s in the first episode, and I could see that being really off-putting to viewers who are not as desensitized to sexualized violence against women as most of us probably are (myself very, very much included).

(Seriously, I didnโ€™t bat an eye at that. The mushroom people bothered me so much I put the show down for like a decade, but the naked, murdered, suggestively-displayed teenage girl? That was just par for the damn course. Violence against women is very very normalized in our media.)

I will say that the rest of Hannibal is actually quite notable for how little eroticized violence against women there is (especially given how violent the show is).

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Itโ€™s always awesome that it tells you how much Mads was committed to embodying Hannibal when he refers to Hannibal as โ€œIโ€ by mistake. But the real gem here is him referring to Will as โ€œthe little fucked up Will Grahamโ€ ๐Ÿ˜ญ

The little fucked up Will Graham and his little fucked up hallucinatory menage a quatre (Mads forgot the freaky Hannibal stag man)โ€ฆ..

(I found the quote post on pinterest, lmk if anyone knows the OP!!)

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"Then he would bite into my upper thigh until he would draw blood. And-"

"Your time is up, I'm sorry, Hannibal." Bedelia said relieved.

"Just let me tell you the end of it."

"As much as I..." She started trying to find a verb that would express her feelings "am entertained by your fantasies regarding this Will Graham, I will have to decline politely. To be frank, I don't even know how sharing your fantasies even helps with your obsession."

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Wanna bet that Will thought of Hannibal when saying his wedding vows for Molly?

She looks so gorgeous, all dressed up just to marry me, Will thought. The quiet tendril of guilt that curled around to marry me was easily stifled by the scents of bunch after bunch of flowers around the wedding gazebo, the glowing expressions of Mollyโ€™s friends and family, the flash of the photographerโ€™s camera.

Will took her hand in his. The officiantโ€” an elderly friend of Mollyโ€™s familyโ€” polished his glasses and began his recitation, but it was background noise. Will smiled as he held her gaze, and Mollyโ€™s responding smile was wide and radiant.ย 

He thought about how her lips tasted, how they felt. Petal-soft and sweet, currently lined with red lipstick that complimented her eyes nicely. He wondered if it would smear across her cheek if he kissed her like he truly wanted to kiss someone he loved. How it would look, a painted streak of red.ย 

Wrong. It would look wrong, of courseโ€ฆ another clutch for balance, Will? How drastic. Pity I couldnโ€™t send you flowersโ€ฆ

He squeezed Mollyโ€™s hand tighter, and smiled wider.ย 

โ€œDo you, William Graham, take Molly Foster to be your lawfully wedded wife, in sickness and in health, for richer or poorer, to love and to cherish until death do you part?โ€

The feeling was reminiscent of walking blindly down a road, the path laid before you, half-caught in a dream and knowing that something was so very wrongโ€” but knowing that it was reality. Knowing it was happening.ย 

Will knew the feeling intimately. โ€œI do.โ€

โ€œDo you, Molly Foster, take William Graham to be your lawfully wedded husband, in sickness and in health, for richer or poorer, to love and to cherish until death do you part?โ€ย 

โ€œI do.โ€ โ€œI now pronounce you husband and wife, joined in eternal union. May joy and love fill all the days of your livesโ€ฆ Mr. Graham-Foster, you may kiss the bride!โ€ย 

A cheer went up from the crowd. Out of the corner of his eye, Will could see Mollyโ€™s mother was crying happy tears, her friends clapping and whistling, and her son Walter already heading for the dessert table with the other children.ย 

Molly stepped in close, smelling of warm skin, crisp lace and amber perfume, and Will looped his arm over her shoulders, fingers winding gently into her hair as their lips met.ย 

Joined in eternal union you and I have begun to blur did you believe you could change me as I changed you I already did weโ€™re conjoined Iโ€™m not sure if either of us could survive separation if I saw you every day forever Will I would remember this time every crime of yours feels like one of mine I wanted to run away with you I wanted you and wanted I wanted I wantedโ€”ย 

And for a momentโ€” with a hand braced against a shoulder and another around his waist, fingers in someoneโ€™s dark blonde hair, dipping slightly in a warm embrace with the glint of silver between themโ€” a darkened kitchen materialized under his eyelids. Lemon and parsley instead of heady florals, the slickness of blood coating his arms instead of a silky white dress shirt, a broader palm and heavier breath, the glint of a karambit knife.ย 

I will use a gutting knife meant for precision in case my hands are unsteady, I wouldnโ€™t want to cause any truly fatal damageโ€ฆ this is only a vengeful lesson in kind. They will be unsteady. He has always unsteadied me. I cannot bring myself to end that, despite everything. This is my design.

Will made a weak little half-gasp, and the soft, dewy retreat of Mollyโ€™s mouth and the fond laugh that filled the space made him ease his eyes open to meet hers. โ€œThat happy to be hitched at last, sweet man?โ€ Will simply nodded and held her arm as he led her back down the aisle, flower petals tossed from either side.ย 

This would be like a perfect dream come to life, Will thought, but Iโ€™m not the perfect man for this. And the dreams I have have never been and will never be anything like thisโ€ฆ

The wedding cake Molly had him cut for her was beautiful, decorated in vanilla buttercream frosting with chocolate swirls and cut berries. The guests clinked champagne glasses, laughing and chatting, and took plates to grab a slice. Will sunk the knife in gingerly, and the cake inside was a red so dark it was almost black. Rivulets of sticky red ran down the blade of the knife, a droplet catching between Willโ€™s thumb and forefinger.

Molly took his hand in hers and kissed it clean, lashes low and playful. โ€œRaspberryโ€™s my favorite, you know.โ€ย 

Will swallowed hard.

Dawn was almost breaking by the time he drifted off that night, lying still beside his newlywedโ€™s sleeping form in the tousled sheets. He stared at the ceiling and thought of seven doors and their keycards, guard rotations and tray meals and the sting of sodium thiopental in the veins. The recent penchant for red lipstick on another woman heโ€™d once kissed and the clack of a cane. A lithe, loyal guardian with her hunting rifle and the princely sum that sat deposited in his bank account as something akin to a taunt.ย 

You know that nothing matters without me. You and I bestowed the finishing touches on the landscapes of each otherโ€™s worldsโ€ฆ

I think youโ€™ll be happy to hear that the voice in my head still sounds like you. Itโ€™s only fitting.

Will smiled into the darkness of the room, and let the soft clip-clop-clip of shadowy hooves on the hallwayโ€™s hardwood sing him to sleep.

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I actually love Hannibal taking the coat from Alana in Mizumono cause it's such a fuck you all fuck you all very much I am heartbroken and I have no fucks left so go to fucking hell and die for all I care and while we're at it let me take this coat from your dying body you rotten piece of meat hope you drown in the rain of my tears

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god I WISH I was the kind of person who could write essays dissecting and analyzing things bc I have SO MANY thoughts about this show and hannigram but tragically I do not think in words and trying to scrape my thoughts into a coherent structure is very difficult

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Hannibal (2013-2015)

3x06 - โ€œDolceโ€

Hannibal putting his hand on Will's chest

his swagless mental breakdowns this, his homoerotic patterns of grief that. what about HER grief-stricken moments of extremely poor decisionmaking? what about HER incredibly alarming isolation and trauma-driven life choices?!?!?!

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