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Lilly | she/they | ace | doctor who fan | I am Mike Yates' number 1 fan and apologist | mostly post and reblog Doctor Who stuff I like, occasionally other stuff as well | I run @companion-showdown as well, follow me there for fun tournaments between companions! | I also have started writing reviews on tardis.guide under the same username

Why You Should Stop Saying Don’t Skip Nine

Background and Disclaimers:

  • I’ve pretty much been a Doctor Who fan my entire life, I was 2.5 in 2005, never missed an episode from the time I was ~10, although the bulk of my argument is about newcomers, thats not my experience with the show, so take it with a pinch of salt
  • I’m a huge fan of the ninth Doctor, he’s in my top 3, I’ve watched series 1 more than any other, I think if someone is a fan of another era of Doctor Who and hasn’t watched, they absolutely should, its fantastic, it enhances everything that comes after it

Saying Don’t Skip Nine and Spreading Posts that Say it is Gatekeeping, and I’m Tired of Pretending its Not

By and large, I would say the Doctor Who fandom, or at least the parts that don’t use Doctor Who as an excuse to complain about a non-existant “woke agenda”, is a pretty friendly one. There’s no big cannon arguments because everyone understands its not worth getting into arguments about, nobody minds who you ship, theres no character thats universally hated or loved that people will be shitty about if you go against the grain. Maybe its just the people I follow, but its a good fandom to be a part of.

The one exception to this, the one thing about the (normal parts of) the fandom that I find to be toxic and offputting is the widespread nature of the phrase “don’t skip nine” and its variants I’ve seen over the years, along the lines of “if you skipped nine I dont respect/respect less you/your opinion”, “If someone tells you to skip nine, they don’t respect you”.

The intention is to encourage people to watch Eccleston, who’s considered to be the most overlooked of the modern Doctors. At Doctor Who’s pique in popularity, this was true, and 1 season wasn’t a lot to watch before getting to the stuff you wanted, “don’t skip nine” felt more like an encouragement not to pass him over just because he was less popular, at least within the fandom.

But as time’s gone on, and the number of series has increased, its perfectly reasonable for a person getting into the show for the first time to choose to start from a more recent point. And the show’s designed for that at its foundations, its designed to refresh itself on a regular basis, and in the new show, that period is always treated as though new people will be watching and it resets the continuity it can, and reintroduces the continuity it can’t.

So, let’s imagine you are this hypothetical newcomer, and you started watching with, say, 13, and you liked it enough to join the fandom. Are you going to feel like your welcome if you see a post that says “don’t skip nine”, or worse, one that says people who skip nine aren’t to be respected? Is that going to make you want to explore the show further? Is it encouraging?

At this point in time, in my opinion, the phrase only serves to gatekeep, I don’t see any real difference between something like “don’t skip nine” and “you’re not a real fan unless you watch the show in this specific way”, and at this point i’m just sick of hearing it outside of the context of a recommendation of where to start for people who've never seen the show, which, if you are saying it in fandom spaces, is not the audience a majority of the time.

If you’re a doctor who fan reading this, and you initially skiped nine, hell if you never watched him and don’t plan to, theres nothing wrong with that, your not less of a fan because you started somewhere else, that friend who told you to start at a later doctor didn’t respect you less, they thought you would like another doctor more, there is no right way, no right order, in which to watch doctor who, the way you did it made you a fan, and thats the bit that actually matters.

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Who is your favourite companion?

EDIT: Susan Foreman, sorry, I do these in a daze, mistakes happen, and in my defense Susan Who was also in the tournament

Propaganda

Vicki Pallister

  • How can you not love Vicki Pallister, orphan rescued from some of the most dire circumstances a companion starts in (being emotionally tortured by and unknowingly caring for a mass murderer who killed her father, fuck you bennett), forgives barbara for unknowingly killing her pet, Sandy the Sand Beast, the only creature left in the universe who loves her, so she's a better person than me, and thats all before she even joins the TARDIS, where she and the doctor become time and spaces most chaotic double act. in her first story after joining the tardis she and the doctor are so bored of the nice little holiday they're having at ian and barbara's insistence that when they find a dead body on the side of the road they think it'd be really fun for the doctor to impersonate him so they can meet nero, where they then proceed to cause havoc. the doctor emperor's new clothes nero to cover for his inability to use the instrument he stole from the corpse, and gives nero the idea to start the great fire of rome, meanwhile vicki makes a new friend, the court's poisoner, and very nearly poisons the emperor. she does not give a shit, and the story ends with the tardis team laughing as they watch rome burn. next in the web planet she gets herself another pet monster, in the space museum she tricks a computer into opening the armoury and openly tells it she's going to use the weapons to revolt. she's just delightful, and I wish she were more widely beloved. (@sandymybeloved )

you're getting my vicki propaganda, i'm not letting my girl go without a fight (the propaganda above is also me but i dont care)

so yeah vicki.

she's great, i love her so much, she is in one of the shittiest situations imaginable in her first story and yet she's still so incredibly compassionate. shes so micheivous as well, half of why i love her is the romans, barbara and ian want a well earned holiday meanwhile she and the doctor are bored and decide to infiltrate neros court for fun, they're a great double act, vicki has the best relationship with one and one of my favourites with the doctor over all. she's always getting herself stuck in, she loves travelling on the tardis, truly top tier in that trait.

shes also a really great contrast to susan, like yes she is a replacement grandaughter figure for the doctor and they're a similar age, but they are so different, shes way more adventurous and outgoing more like to confront problems head on and more likely to cause them as well, and she doesn't scare as easily. the teenaged companions who came after are largely more like her than they are susan

also i love how she is just naming creatures all the time, sandy the sandbeast in the rescue, zombo the zarbi in the web planet, the chumblies in galaxy 4.

underneath all of the fun stuff about her she is also just a really interesting character, largely because of the rescue, like everyone she knows is dead a part from this one guy who's bedridden, meanwhile she's being terrorised by this other guy who claims to be the only thing holding back the group that killed everyone she knows from killing her too, shes been stranded for months, barbara shows up, kills her beloved pet, and then whoops it turns out the two guys are one and the same and actually he killed everyone and is completely uninjured. the fact that doesn't completely break her, that she's able to join the tardis and see everything as a fun adventure still trust people and enjoy herself, she's just completely incredible in my eyes. yes its a little bit classic who not dwelling on things, once a serial's over it doesn't really impact much, but like, it works. the vicki we get to know is one who could move on pretty quickly, of course she forgives barbara, vicki wouldn't hold a grudge against someone who was just trying to protect her (I do though, on her behalf), of course she trusts the tardis team, she trusts everyone including weird scary looking aliens until they give her reason not to, of course she's still adventurous and out going and misceivous, she got right on the tardis after everything that happened even though rescue back to safety was just a few hours away

Who is your favourite companion?

EDIT: Susan Foreman, sorry, I do these in a daze, mistakes happen, and in my defense Susan Who was also in the tournament

Propaganda

Vicki Pallister

  • How can you not love Vicki Pallister, orphan rescued from some of the most dire circumstances a companion starts in (being emotionally tortured by and unknowingly caring for a mass murderer who killed her father, fuck you bennett), forgives barbara for unknowingly killing her pet, Sandy the Sand Beast, the only creature left in the universe who loves her, so she's a better person than me, and thats all before she even joins the TARDIS, where she and the doctor become time and spaces most chaotic double act. in her first story after joining the tardis she and the doctor are so bored of the nice little holiday they're having at ian and barbara's insistence that when they find a dead body on the side of the road they think it'd be really fun for the doctor to impersonate him so they can meet nero, where they then proceed to cause havoc. the doctor emperor's new clothes nero to cover for his inability to use the instrument he stole from the corpse, and gives nero the idea to start the great fire of rome, meanwhile vicki makes a new friend, the court's poisoner, and very nearly poisons the emperor. she does not give a shit, and the story ends with the tardis team laughing as they watch rome burn. next in the web planet she gets herself another pet monster, in the space museum she tricks a computer into opening the armoury and openly tells it she's going to use the weapons to revolt. she's just delightful, and I wish she were more widely beloved. (@sandymybeloved )

they should do a bit where the doctor goes “enough is enough no more of this i am going to change and be better no more kidnapping people with my box and doing irreparable damage to their life!” and he goes to therapy and the therapist meets him and they start talking and about ohhh 15 minutes later the therapist is in the tardis and the doors shut and all you hear is “yes that’s right All Of Time And Space!”

Jo Grant is incredibly hilarious to me as a character because she's the Doctor's government assigned best friend, and she's so good at her job that not only does she crack that grumpy motherfucker like an egg within a day of meeting him, but she also befriends his evil asshole situationship who he's divorced at least 20 times AND within a span of less than five minutes befriends his other weird dubious situationship who he picked up after she left who is so allergic to personal relationships of any kind that she had to be forcefully reverse adopted by 3 children to get her to be even a little normal, the latter of which occurred at the Doctor's funeral.

Who is your favourite companion?

Propaganda

Barbara Wright

  • one of THE OGS!!!!!! and theeeee reason the doctor is who we know them as now - she told him off for being an asshole in story THREE!!! can we get a wahoo!!!!!!

Vicki Pallister

  • How can you not love Vicki Pallister, orphan rescued from some of the most dire circumstances a companion starts in (being emotionally tortured by and unknowingly caring for a mass murderer who killed her father, fuck you bennett), forgives barbara for unknowingly killing her pet, Sandy the Sand Beast, the only creature left in the universe who loves her, so she's a better person than me, and thats all before she even joins the TARDIS, where she and the doctor become time and spaces most chaotic double act. in her first story after joining the tardis she and the doctor are so bored of the nice little holiday they're having at ian and barbara's insistence that when they find a dead body on the side of the road they think it'd be really fun for the doctor to impersonate him so they can meet nero, where they then proceed to cause havoc. the doctor emperor's new clothes nero to cover for his inability to use the instrument he stole from the corpse, and gives nero the idea to start the great fire of rome, meanwhile vicki makes a new friend, the court's poisoner, and very nearly poisons the emperor. she does not give a shit, and the story ends with the tardis team laughing as they watch rome burn. next in the web planet she gets herself another pet monster, in the space museum she tricks a computer into opening the armoury and openly tells it she's going to use the weapons to revolt. she's just delightful, and I wish she were more widely beloved. (@sandymybeloved )

Steven Taylor

  • He suffers so much I want him thrown out the window!!! He’s see all his friends die in front of him and is constantly getting tortured and being hurt. He should be shot in the face and survive I love him so much!!!

trailer has actually deflated me about the next series a bit, like I was looking forward to a companion who did not fucking want to be there, because that's at least something vaguely different even if we cannot escape present day British (and mostly English) companions, not being down for tardis shenanigans is something, but apparently we're not even getting that, Belinda seems pretty enthused after aboit 5 seconds. like okay.

like I'll never not look forward to new episodes, and this series does look better than the last, but that was one one thing I was specifically hyped about, there's nothing else specific to this series I'm excited about, maybe juno Dawson but that excitement was downgraded to wait and see when I saw she was writing the eurovision episode.

please please please can the trailer be misleading about belinda

[ID: an image of Steven Taylor from Doctor Who, about to be hanged. A post from natequarter is edited onto the image. It reads, "she yee on my haw until oh god they're going to hang me. dodo they're going to fucking hang me". /end ID]

Type of Queer: WLW

Additional Info: "ace was intended to be queer in at least survival. more subtexts also but this is the only one i can think of that I know was intended by one of the creators (the serial's writer in this instance)"

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