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adrien being reminded constantly of his fathers heroic sacrifice. adrien believing that monarch murdered his father the one fight chat noir wasn’t there. the guilt chipping away at him slowly but surely. the disparity between the authoritarian father he knew vs the martyr the entirety of paris now eulogizes. all of paris being compassionate towards him for the wrong reasons. the overwhelming support that has trapped him in a narrative sanitized to the point of being a heinous lie. he’s alone in his company. there’s nothing he can do about it.

I swear y'all, people really be hating on Marinette for making questionable choices as if she wants to do them and isn't dying on the inside because of the guilt of her actions and how she does everything because in every other scenario, everything goes to shit.

Yeah, it's not like Marinette has experienced the end of the world because of one of her mistakes and that the lesson she got from that episode was "The best kept secret are the ones you never share".

Why do you all think Marinette was asking the Bunnyxes if she has made the right call during the London Special?

Or that she had a nightmare the very next episode after trusting Alya with Trixx?

Marinette is scarred and scared. This mantra Marinette has is how she is making through it all. Keeping secrets is her sacrifice to spare her loved one but it comes at the price of isolating, burdening and burning herself with it. (See Gang of Secrets). It is a defense mechanism that has carried her so far... but it isn't healthy on the long term.

Also, Revelator sure wasn't subtle about with the moral here.

Like, they are advising Vincent, but Ladybug is also realizing that their advices apply to her too.

Marinette has to realize that Adrien isn't truly healing without knowing the truth. That was Rena Rouge's point. That one way or another, he will be hurt and she cannot always protect him from the truth and the pain. But at least, with the truth in hand, Adrien can actually start healing and grow. That is why he hasn't had new clothes yet this seasons unlike the rest of the heroes : his development is stalled, both figuratively and visually. Because of that one lie.

And no matter how mad you are about Rena having her memory wipe out of Ladybug's secret, the truth is Ladybug has to be the one to fix the problem she has caused when she covered the truth to Adrien about his father. Lying about Gabriel being a hero is also hurting Adrien. That's why we got that little discussion between Adrien and Nino at the beginning of the episode where Marinette couldn't hear it. She is unaware how her lie is truly affecting Adrien. She believes he is happier than if he had knew the truth. But in this case, she is wrong and she has to realize that.

All that to say, it will be a journey for our main character who doesn't know there is a clock ticking. That is why it is interesting. That is why it is part of the story for this new arc.

That is why it is interesting. That is why it is part of the story for this new arc.

And the season has been screaming this every single episode (less currently to us than it should be, with the release schedule as it is, but this feels ESPECIALLY appropriate for something happening right around the halfway mark). "There's something about me that no one knows yet, because I've got a secret" isn't about being Ladybug anymore.

People wanna be like "if Marinette just made good decisions there wouldn't be any problems!" as if she hasn't been constantly punished for trusting people, constantly punished for wanting good things for herself, and constantly rewarded and validated for overly planning for everything and being absurdly mistrusting and paranoid.

Even IN THIS EPISODE, she wants to believe no normal person could be so malicious toward strangers, and she's proven brutally wrong. She lets Alya talk her into using their powers to benefit her personal life just this once when it's someone really being cruel, and it leads to him getting akumatized and utterly shattering her peace. The first person she ever trusted to know she was Ladybug learns THIS secret and is horrified, disgusted, and livid. And now any time Alya says "you can tell me anything", Marinette can no longer believe her.

She is HEARING the lesson at the end and she KNOWS she "should", but every single other factor is screaming that it's a dangerous idea. Having a character grapple between morality and safety, between peace and safety now versus making the active choice to allow misery and suffering and potentially even danger now for the sake of healing later...

AND ACTUALLY? Giving that conflict to the Creation and Order and Healing and Repair character, with the explicit bonus lesson this episode that sometimes to fix things you have to break them. That's PERFECT for this. It WILL hurt Adrien. It WILL destroy his peace and comfort. And it needs to.

And yeah, waiting is only making it worse, but she IS scarred and scared. And if protagonists always made good choices that prevented there from being any longterm problems, there wouldn't be much of a story, now, would there?

tsurugi’s influence in revelator: let’s talk about it

something i noticed while watching revelator was the underlying implication that ms tsurugi is still very much active in the inner workings of the agreste family.

let’s set the record straight: we know very little about ms tsurugi’s partnership with gabriel from the earlier seasons. however, we do know that ms tsurugi is a very wealthy, smart, and cunning individual who owns a business in the technology industry, allowing for her to team up with gabriel to create the alliance rings in s5. she knew gabriel was monarch and willingly working with him (very important to note that she did not work for him), her intentions a mystery.

obviously, what made me realize tsurugi likely had some involvement in the events of revelator was vincent mentioning she sponsored him in one of his videos:

seems kinda meaningless at face value, like something the writers inserted to fill an awkward space in the script. however, if you watch miraculous, you know that everything is intentional.

okay, so ms tsurugi sponsors this recently famous influencer who makes a living off of spreading false information about people. this is odd, as it doesn’t seem like the type of content tsurugi (a very no-nonsense type of person) would endorse.

on the contrary, vincent’s videos are coincidentally targeted at “reporting” on people who tsurugi had some sort of personal connection to. weird, right?

the most obvious example of this is how vincent is very clearly anti-adrienette. tsurugi and gabriel pushed hard for adrien and kagami to get together in earlier seasons to create “perfect” images for their brands.

as soon as these words came out of his mouth, sirens immediately went off in my mind. WHY is vincent, a seemingly irrelevant character, using the same type of language gabriel and tsurugi used to describe their own children???

rich, famous, good-looking. vincent is glorifying adrien and kagami, describing them as pretty and powerful faces that shouldn’t be involved with common people such as marinette, a baker’s daughter (who he implied is using adrien for his status and success).

language like this has been used to describe adrien since his adrien, the fragrance days—perfect being the most prominent word. why? the lore is insane (iykyk), but to put it simply, adrien is a sentimonster, a creation in the eyes of gabriel. he believed his son could be nothing short of flawless.

a theory common in the miraculous fandom is that kagami is also a sentimonster. i won’t dive into this theory too much, but there’s plenty of concrete evidence to back it up—a noteworthy one being tsurugi using similar language to describe her daughter as gabriel did for adrien. she has high expectations for kagami, and wants her to be nothing short of the best—exactly how gabriel “parented” adrien.

from vincent’s video, it’s implied that tsurugi paid him to spread hurtful misinformation that marinette was a golddigger. her motivation? to get kagami and adrien back together. we already know she hates felix, her daughter’s current boyfriend, so it makes sense.

a possible counterargument:

“vincent is just creating meaningless drama revolving around the popular topic of gabriel agreste’s death, as it offers the opportunities for him to gain popularity”

respectfully, nothing is meaningless in miraculous. maybe i would agree with this argument if TSURUGI of all people didn’t sponsor his content. maybe i would agree with this argument if he didn’t spread false information that clearly villainized marinette and glorified kagami. he also obviously has it OUT for mari. don’t tell me he’s not obsessed with making people hate her because HELLOOOOOO:

people are gonna love hating the baker girl.

it’s giving very much lila/cerise vibes, honestly. i wouldn’t be surprised if this was some scheme involving tsurugi and lila to turn everyone against marinette, something cerise has been trying to do SINCE SEASON ONE.

so, what do i believe? i believe FOR SURE that tsurugi has something to do with the events of revelator, likely paying vincent to spread misinformation about marinette with the hopes of kagami and adrien getting back together. i also believe it’s very possible cerise is somehow involved in this, maybe working with tsurugi in some way.

LET ME ALSO SAY: tsurugi only cares about marinette because she is preventing kagami from a relationship with adrien. she would not care about ruining marinette’s life otherwise. cerise, however? she obviously hates mari. if tsurugi and cerise did work together to orchestrate vincent’s secrets, it benefitted BOTH of them: pushed for an adrigami redemption (for tsurugi) and demonized marinette publicly (for cerise).

i’m feeling a lil bit like cerise with her thousands of notebooks with this all over the place rant, but lmk what yall think 😭😭😭

okay but imagine. JUST IMAGINE.

if chat noir had this new power up in the season 5 finale against monarch. the tragedy of having to use it on himself to forget who his dad really was, ladybug having to lie to adrien and not knowing why chat noir decided to forget. oooh they missed a GOLDEN opportunity

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