Remember, JPV was nominated the most. Constantine has moments of not being a pathetic wet cat. Azrael is always soaking wet. He's my little meow-meow. Please let him win.

@ my followers please win this for my wretched boy JPV

PLEASE PLEASE LET JPV WIN HES MY SPECIAL LITTLE SOPPING WET CAT OF A MAN

This is NONSENSE. JPV is pathetic sure but he’s unilaterally pathetic, as a little beaten down thing! John C is pathetic in all directions. He has the beaten down thing JPV has, but he ALSO has moments of stupid confidence that turn out pathetic, almost all his “victories” leave him in a pathetic state, he has the substance abuse pathetic, the noir detective pathetic, the loneliness pathetic, he does it all! The closest thing he has to a friend is a literal demon spawned from his own mental issues! Not to mention, he’s a bigger character than Azrael as far as I can tell, which means there is MORE pathetic material! He’s got so many issues there versions of him that have to be saved by the devil himself from his self destructive behaviors!

No contest. Come on guys don’t let this travesty happen

At least Constantine has Satan's support. Also, don't you think that the fact that Azrael has even LESS material and is known by even FEWER people, and gets even LESS love from DC makes him more pathetic on his own?

Sure, Constantine is pathetic, but in a self-destructive dramatic thoroughbred horse way. Not in a wet cat way.

Remember, JPV was nominated the most. Constantine has moments of not being a pathetic wet cat. Azrael is always soaking wet. He's my little meow-meow. Please let him win.

@ my followers please win this for my wretched boy JPV

PLEASE PLEASE LET JPV WIN HES MY SPECIAL LITTLE SOPPING WET CAT OF A MAN

This is NONSENSE. JPV is pathetic sure but he’s unilaterally pathetic, as a little beaten down thing! John C is pathetic in all directions. He has the beaten down thing JPV has, but he ALSO has moments of stupid confidence that turn out pathetic, almost all his “victories” leave him in a pathetic state, he has the substance abuse pathetic, the noir detective pathetic, the loneliness pathetic, he does it all! The closest thing he has to a friend is a literal demon spawned from his own mental issues! Not to mention, he’s a bigger character than Azrael as far as I can tell, which means there is MORE pathetic material! He’s got so many issues there versions of him that have to be saved by the devil himself from his self destructive behaviors!

No contest. Come on guys don’t let this travesty happen

At least Constantine has Satan's support. Also, don't you think that the fact that Azrael has even LESS material and is known by even FEWER people, and gets even LESS love from DC makes him more pathetic on his own?

Sure, Constantine is pathetic, but in a self-destructive dramatic thoroughbred horse way. Not in a wet cat way.

guys

guys here me out

before the movie happens

we invent an entire event, just like the great gulon incident, and call it like “amsterdam”

and when we post and reference it, we add wildly contradicting info ab it

and then the fans of the movie are just confused as hell becuse they cant find any trace of it

like

“and when amsterdam happened, and that dentist (?) died, keefe just–”

“so everything is going well between sophie and biana, you know ? but then amsterdam happens, and biana cant forgive sophie for abandoning that dog”

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP BRINGING THIS POST BACK

i've been complaining about uni all day, but I am aware of current discourse. so let me just say: yes, 100% everyone including allocishet people should not be shamed for their identity. but you cannot act like jokes by queer people punching up against a historically oppressive and violent society holds the same weight as the reverse.

critiques about "balancing" and "equal number of gay and straight characters" are nitpicking the wording (which, yes, could have been better phrased, but you can still clearly understand what they meant) instead of addressing that crux.

someone being personally annoyed with a sudden influx in non-queer ships is not equivalent to oppression or discrimination or hatred for your identities--or even unreasonable! way more malice has been attributed to their intention than is appropriate, and it's so frustrating to see

have I addressed everything? no. will I say more? entirely possible. but for the love of god, people

Confession: I'm kinda disgusted by kotlc smut fics. For starters, its a middle grade series with kids and you're writing SMUT fics about them?? It disgusts me a lot, especially the adult/minor ones. I dont really care too much for the adult/adult (ex; gisela/verspa, fintan/bronte) smut fics, because yk, they're adults, but they're usually not really any of them.

But smut fics on the kotlc crew??? HELL NO if you've written one, like genuinely written a smut fic, like a Sokeefe or Tiana smut, WTF. PLEASE don't talk to me. I love them sososo much, and I will read any fanfic of my otps, but a SMUT fic??????????????? No thanks.

idk maybe its just me but i really dont like people who write kotlc smut, or smut for middle grade in general (like pjo or hp).

then again it might just be me :p who knows?

(but seriously im so uncomfortable when i see a kotlc smut fic on like ao3 or wattpad... and its either kids writing the smut or adults writing it and its SO creepy-)

in summary kotlc smut is gross af, it creeps me out, please dni if you write or read it ON PURPOSE. thank you

(Little thing about me before i tell this story: I am NOT a fan of smut/mature fics, AT ALL.)

So a little bit ago, I had someone beg me to read their sokeefe fic (bc long ago I had a very popular fic, and that person was inspired by me ig). I said yes. And THE FIRST CHAPTER had a warning about potentially uncomfortable content. I didn't think it'd be bad (the fic was written by who I *think* was a young teen, maybe 12-14? So the most i thought it would be was some kissing/cuddling which I have no problem with.) Either way, I guess I didn't take the warning very seriously (which is on me, I get that.) But the warning did NOT grasp the intensity of the fic. Within the first 100 words, there was a full on, graphic, disgustingly described "Mature Scene™️". I could hardly read the first part, and after I realised what was going on, I immediately stopped and commented on how extreme it was. I was literally nauseated. The author responded to my comment with "Sorry I just ship them so much". I exited out of the story and never interacted with that person again.

"Sorry I just ship them so much" SO YOU WROTE AN EXPLICIT STORY ABOUT MINORS FUCKING??????? THATS NOT AN EXCUSE!!!!!! I SHIP TIANA WITH MY LIFE BUT YOU DONT SEE ME WRITING SMUT FICS OF THEM WTF i can barely wright kiss scenes ToT

And they were 12-14??? THEY SHOULDNT BE WRITING SMUT WHATSOEVER!!!

You did the right them, exiting the story and not talking to them again. Maybe they didnt know that it was wrong because they were younger, but it is still wrong and gross and creepy, esepically their response. "I just ship them so much" IF YOU REALLY LOVE THEM MAYBE DONT WRITE SMUT ABOUT THEM??? CUZ THEYRE MINORS????? LITERAL KIDS??? IN A MIDDLE GRADER SERIES???

i hate when this kind of stuff happens T.T

replying in good faith here

first off, yes, the fic should have been tagged/warned about more appropriately, and that is fully on the author. they should have reiterated the warning, and specified that it was going to include straight up smut. that is fully on them, and something that they should fix in the future.

now, the fact is, that children (especially young teens), are going to want to explore sexual themes (often times without the most subtlety or skill), because it's something that is talked about, something that they're often curious about, and it's something that is ancored in our society as something that people do. let me remind you, a fourteen year old is a freshman in high school. a fourteen year old most likely has already been attracted to someone, and a fourteen year old might very soon be in a relationship with someone where sex is on the table.

fan(fiction) is a safe way for young teenager to explore (their) sexuality freely without risking their wellbeing or someone elses*. it allows them to imagine scenarios that are one step removed from themself, as they might not wish to imagine those situations in first person for a variety of reasons. it allows for a total freedom of experimentation, without being limited by their bodies, their awkwardness, and sometimes, frankly, by the fact that their parents are in the same house and they don't want to experiment on themself in those conditions.

you are entirely in your right to dislike the idea of smut for the kotlc characters. you are entirely within your right to find it grosses you out. you are entirely within your right to click away from the (fan)fic. but disgust is not a moral judgement. it's not wrong for a 12-14 year old to write sexual situations, and it's not wrong for them to write people their own age being in sexual situations -- just the same as it's not wrong to write about those characters committing murder.

*with the caveat that the smut should be advertised as such, to be avoided by those who wish to do so

Yeah tbh you do make a point. If it is, like you said, 14 year old writing it, they don't know that writing smut about kids is bad. Like you said, they're trying to explore their sexual feelings onto writing without doing anything themselves, which is frankly, not as bad as genuinely writing it. im more disgusted about it when i see someone older write the kotlc smut, because at that point they should know that smut about literal kids is bad.

but if its the younger generation? its still bad, in my opinion, but they dont technically know that its bad, or like you said, trying to get their feelings out, which is what writing is supposed to do.

frankly, i think that if a teenager (and i'm counting twelve as a teen -- the average age for masturbating for the first time is usually before ten years old (not necessarily in a sexual way, simply in a 'this feels good way' )) wishes to write smut for their own sexual gratification, genuinely because they enjoy it, then that's exactly what they should be doing. sex, and even more so sexual thoughts or art, has no moral value in and of itself*.

when it comes to adults, the nuance there is a bit more muddied, but in my opinion, the most important thing to do is for them to tag appropriately and make sure anyone who wishes to filter it out is able to. i find it much more dangerous to ask for 'credentials' for someone writing a smut fic (age, trauma, history -- all information that can be extremely dangerous to have online, depending on the situation), than to simply let them be, provided that, as always, it's properly warned for.

i've seen discussion about the tags themselves being too descriptive, but in my opinion, that's exactly why they're there -- smut in itself is a vague tag. smut can include heavy making out, depending on how the author views things, and can go towards much heavier and kinkier things. the tags serve the purpose of differenciating between the two, and are descriptive specifically for that reason. while they might be uncomfortable to read, they are also more often than not accompanied by the E rating on ao3, which is almost excluively used for smut fics, and can be easily filtered out, more so than the tags themselves ; and, in the end, reading tags pragmatically stating the contents of the fic will always be preferable to going into a fic unaware.

Confession: I'm kinda disgusted by kotlc smut fics. For starters, its a middle grade series with kids and you're writing SMUT fics about them?? It disgusts me a lot, especially the adult/minor ones. I dont really care too much for the adult/adult (ex; gisela/verspa, fintan/bronte) smut fics, because yk, they're adults, but they're usually not really any of them.

But smut fics on the kotlc crew??? HELL NO if you've written one, like genuinely written a smut fic, like a Sokeefe or Tiana smut, WTF. PLEASE don't talk to me. I love them sososo much, and I will read any fanfic of my otps, but a SMUT fic??????????????? No thanks.

idk maybe its just me but i really dont like people who write kotlc smut, or smut for middle grade in general (like pjo or hp).

then again it might just be me :p who knows?

(but seriously im so uncomfortable when i see a kotlc smut fic on like ao3 or wattpad... and its either kids writing the smut or adults writing it and its SO creepy-)

in summary kotlc smut is gross af, it creeps me out, please dni if you write or read it ON PURPOSE. thank you

(Little thing about me before i tell this story: I am NOT a fan of smut/mature fics, AT ALL.)

So a little bit ago, I had someone beg me to read their sokeefe fic (bc long ago I had a very popular fic, and that person was inspired by me ig). I said yes. And THE FIRST CHAPTER had a warning about potentially uncomfortable content. I didn't think it'd be bad (the fic was written by who I *think* was a young teen, maybe 12-14? So the most i thought it would be was some kissing/cuddling which I have no problem with.) Either way, I guess I didn't take the warning very seriously (which is on me, I get that.) But the warning did NOT grasp the intensity of the fic. Within the first 100 words, there was a full on, graphic, disgustingly described "Mature Scene™️". I could hardly read the first part, and after I realised what was going on, I immediately stopped and commented on how extreme it was. I was literally nauseated. The author responded to my comment with "Sorry I just ship them so much". I exited out of the story and never interacted with that person again.

"Sorry I just ship them so much" SO YOU WROTE AN EXPLICIT STORY ABOUT MINORS FUCKING??????? THATS NOT AN EXCUSE!!!!!! I SHIP TIANA WITH MY LIFE BUT YOU DONT SEE ME WRITING SMUT FICS OF THEM WTF i can barely wright kiss scenes ToT

And they were 12-14??? THEY SHOULDNT BE WRITING SMUT WHATSOEVER!!!

You did the right them, exiting the story and not talking to them again. Maybe they didnt know that it was wrong because they were younger, but it is still wrong and gross and creepy, esepically their response. "I just ship them so much" IF YOU REALLY LOVE THEM MAYBE DONT WRITE SMUT ABOUT THEM??? CUZ THEYRE MINORS????? LITERAL KIDS??? IN A MIDDLE GRADER SERIES???

i hate when this kind of stuff happens T.T

replying in good faith here

first off, yes, the fic should have been tagged/warned about more appropriately, and that is fully on the author. they should have reiterated the warning, and specified that it was going to include straight up smut. that is fully on them, and something that they should fix in the future.

now, the fact is, that children (especially young teens), are going to want to explore sexual themes (often times without the most subtlety or skill), because it's something that is talked about, something that they're often curious about, and it's something that is ancored in our society as something that people do. let me remind you, a fourteen year old is a freshman in high school. a fourteen year old most likely has already been attracted to someone, and a fourteen year old might very soon be in a relationship with someone where sex is on the table.

fan(fiction) is a safe way for young teenager to explore (their) sexuality freely without risking their wellbeing or someone elses*. it allows them to imagine scenarios that are one step removed from themself, as they might not wish to imagine those situations in first person for a variety of reasons. it allows for a total freedom of experimentation, without being limited by their bodies, their awkwardness, and sometimes, frankly, by the fact that their parents are in the same house and they don't want to experiment on themself in those conditions.

you are entirely in your right to dislike the idea of smut for the kotlc characters. you are entirely within your right to find it grosses you out. you are entirely within your right to click away from the (fan)fic. but disgust is not a moral judgement. it's not wrong for a 12-14 year old to write sexual situations, and it's not wrong for them to write people their own age being in sexual situations -- just the same as it's not wrong to write about those characters committing murder.

*with the caveat that the smut should be advertised as such, to be avoided by those who wish to do so

I usually suck at effects, this might be one of those times

@creetchure come back i miss u :(((

Hi nova hi quill waves

Censorship is wrong. Except when something is objectively bad and therefore SHOULD be censored and you are morally wrong if you don’t censor it

please, keep calling people pedophiles for [checks notes] not wanting ANYONE to be harassed. this feels so great as a LITERAL CSA SURVIVOR.

tagging is obviously ideal so people can block and survivors can filter but i'm not buying any of the other arguments about "normalizing" incest. a) you could make the same argument about talking about murder/other morally wrong crimes, and b) i don’t think anyone who's old enough to be on keepblr (minimum age of 13 to make an account) hasn't already formulated their own opinions on incest.

also, we don’t know who's using art/headcanons to process personal trauma/feelings, and no one owes it to us to share that if they are. i write a lot about csa in my personal writing because it's my own way of dealing with that. doesn't mean i think csa should happen to people irl (i don't. for obvious reasons. as a survivor) and if i decided to post that, i shouldn't owe anyone an explanation about my trauma etc. there's no way of allowing people to process stuff how they need to without forced disclosure unless we just. live and let live. no idea if that's what happening here and i don’t share this to theorize--just to point out another way of looking at things

also to everyone saying "callout posts are bad EXCEPT when the person being called was morally wrong like right now." are you even hearing yourselves. you can't have it both ways, guys—either no one gets to dictate what's allowed and what should be censored, or you are encouraging censorship. there's no in between.

again. personally not a fan of that ship, but im anti censorship and anti callout post. making callout posts Will get you blocked.

Drew this a while ago, so as the universe works, I don’t like it as much but felt obligated to post it anyway—because chapter 42 !!!

The only way to learn how to draw keefe. consistently. Is to draw keefe