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ARCANE S2E04 | “Paint the Town Blue”

the way it is canon that caitlyn grew up with dobermans as it is shown in the kiramman family portraits, i love that caitlyn grew up with dogs. i love my dobermans. omg baby cait w the puppies is adorable im sobbing

beautiful art cr: 2rusty_wings2 on twt

First two images: modified crest from the one I made previously.

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Caitlyn + 2x08

Has anyone noticed this too? A girl who lost her mother.

No wonder Caitlyn was so fucking angry at this time, not only was it an attack on the memorial after losing her mother and being kidnapped and tortured etc... but her people died and children lost their mothers, just like this girl. And Cait was definitely feeling her sadness and fear.

This also reminds me of those people who say Caitlyn changed just bc her mother died, or how can she change just bc of one person's death? Well idiots IT'S NOT LIKE THAT!!

Like “Oh but she’s from Piltover, she gets all the luxuries that ppl of Zaun don’t” burying your mam in a nice casket does not make the pain any easier to deal with assholes!! she went through sm and people still overlooked her trauma as if she shouldn't be sad and angry bc she's an enforcer, rich, and an adult. WHAT STUPIDITY IS THIS? Seriously what does all this have to do with the character not being traumatized? These people should study psychology and educate themselves a little.

Like people forget this all happened to her in the span of less than a week. She went from a peaceful, pretty sheltered life to being terrorised by Jinx with almost no reprieve.

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These people are asking and others are angry why Caitlyn has changed, this girl has been through hell bc of Jinx.

Jinx didn't show any mercy to Caitlyn. And Caitlyn has every right to hate her!! People who overlook what Jinx has done to her are so annoying. The change that happened to Caitlyn It did not start when her mother was killed.

She is gets more hate than the actual villains, and she did less harm than any other leader of Piltover or Zaun. People who excuse characters like Viktor, Sevika or Silco and even Ambessa, but they draw the line on Caitlyn?? they just wanna hate her tbh. Like they don’t comment on the bad and worst things that (Silco, Viktor, SINGED) did

Silco flooded the lanes with shimmer, pay the enforcers to 💀 zaunites and kid / nap children to work on his shimmer factories, and he was a perpetrator of his people suffering. All this and people are justifying his actions, well what about Caitlyn!?

And now someone will come with their stupid excuse and say “Silco is oppressed and wanted to free Zaun” Well being oppressed does not justify him oppressing his people too. Like where is the independence you guys are talking about, when he hurt his people to obey him, and force children to work in dangerous factories and pay enforcers to kill anyone who opposes him, why didn't he pay enforcers to work with him for benefit Zaun, if he really cared about people in Zaun!? And of course there is no need to talk about Ambessa and Singed, the most evil characters who did selfish things, and Viktor as well. But People Don't Care🙄

(I love Viktor btw) but what he did was so bad and terrible!! way worse than what or any other character.

But again people don't care what bad things Viktor did or would do, is it bc he's from Zaun, or bc he's a man? Anything goes... So I really want to know what's wrong with these people who hate Caitlyn so much.

Like it's okay to not like her and not accept her character, but spreading false information about her like “she gassed all of Zaun or that she does dictatorial things” which is absolutely not true. or worse, insulting and cursing people who love Caitlyn and spreading lies about them like they support corrupt regimes or that they are part of the KKK or that they support police brutality in real life bc they love a fictional character. This is so fucking crazy and I sick of it!! Like what makes these people think that I would be act like a fictional character in real life? They really need therapy.

Like they criticizing her bc they feel morally superior bc she's an enforcer and rich?? This is really so ridiculous.

Even if she changed just because her mum died that's valid af. People trying to act like her mum getting murdered isn't a big deal irk me they're fucking soulless

I know, that's so annoying! if someone killed my mom like that I will become John Wick

But seriously I told them that in this post. "burying your mam in a nice casket does not make the pain any easier to deal with"

Caitlyn went through sm and people still until now overlook her trauma. like she shouldn't be sad and angry bc she's an enforcer, rich, and all these stupid things this is fucking stupid!! what does all this have to do with the character not being traumatized?

"Critical" arguments for jinx are always just: she was poor and oppressed ofc she killed and murdered and terrorized people, we can't have higher expectations for her.

And never taking into account the amount of murdering and terrorizing and oppressing of her OWN PEOPLE she did.

"I can defend jinx but not caitlyn because jinx was just a poor girl from zaun"

Well the first thing is; jinx targets weren't only piltover and enforcers. She helped cause further harm and oppression to her own people. Not to mention being poor and oppressed doesn't mean you get to terrorize and murder anyone just because they're more well off than you?

"Criticals' love to write whole essays about why jinx was right for doing all the bullshit she did but the only explanation ever is "she was poor and zaunites don't know better" basically.

The funny thing is that Jinx wasn't even poor. She grew up as the princess of a drug empire. And her father enabled all of her whims and shielded her from ever facing any consequences for her actions.

people who hate on vi except when shes living her whole life slaving away for jinx and jinx’s well-being and being 100% selfless constantly is. interesting.

interesting bc i’m the oldest sister in my family and that’s exactly what my parents expect of me.

how odd and silly that some people continue to parentify older sisters and refuse to care about them as characters when they aren’t constantly putting their sibling first.

that’s how i feel whenever i see a post about how vi’s character was completely sacrificed and then the explanation is all abt how she chose caitlyn and not jinx for the nth time.

I feel you, I'm also old brother of 2 siblings, and everything you said is true here, and I want to add something I've noticed recently on social media, which is the obvious racism and misogyny, and how some people aren't used to this kind of narrative of female characters in shows and movies.

I mean, like let's just imagine JUST IMAGINE, if Vi were male, the narrative surrounding her actions and character would change dramatically. She would likely be hailed as a "brother hero," a model of loyalty and kindness despite impossible circumstances. Her trauma, in prison, losing Vander, failing to save Jinx, and so on, would be sympathized with as a testament to her strength and determination.

Her status as the “bad sister” is undoubtedly tied to gender expectations. Women, especially older sisters, are often burdened with the role of caregiver and are expected to be endlessly compassionate and self-sacrificing. Vi’s moments of anger, guilt, and mistakes, however, conflict with societal stereotypes of women as the natural “fixers” of emotional and familial conflicts. The fact that Vi is pigeonholed as the “bad sister” while Jinx is often seen as the tragic victim reflects deeper gender biases. Vi’s traumas and emotional wounds are ignored or minimized because she is expected to be the “strong one,” while Jinx is given sympathy and a more nuanced lens because her messiness and vulnerability fit into certain “stereotypes of women” who are “broken” or in need of “saving”.

It’s a frustrating double standard, and it underscores just how progressive Arcane is by refusing to fully give into those tropes. Vi’s character still shines as someone strong, flawed, and deeply human, but the criticisms she faces highlight how society treats female characters with such biases.

The misogyny is REAL and don’t think for a second that other women aren’t fully participating in that also. The amount of shit Vi gets for temporarily joining the Enforcers with Caitlyn to stop Jinx is insane. A male Vi would have been seen as a TORTURED HERO for joining up with the EVIL FORCES that took his parents away all so he could do HERO THINGS. But Vi does it? “Wah wah she joined the COPS she’s A TRAITOR THE REAL VI WOULD NEVER”. Like. Watch the show, my friends, and you will see she did what she thought was best and it was a very complex and very emotional decision for her. But no, people shit on Vi and then complain like any of them could write a better show.

And nobody would have hated a male Vi for having his love scene. Nobody. In fact, it would have been EXPECTED, but bc Vi’s a woman, and a lesbian expressing her big gay love for her gorgeous gay lover, some people refuse to see her humanity and her growth as a person in that moment. "Just Bc She Is a Lesbian"

YOURE SO RIGHT FOR THIS. the expectations placed on vi are absolutely partially due to the fact that she’s not a guy. women are expected to fit a certain stereotype, and vi is absolutely not immune to it.

i totally agree with what you said about jinx being seen as the poor victim as well! shes the little sibling, the responsibility that vi threw away, the poor neglected child that needs saving. it’s exhausting to watch her get a million passes for all the things she’s done while vi is ragged on and hated constantly.

i believe the majority of the hate for most of the characters in arcane stems from people’s tendencies to try and fit characters into boxes. vi is the maternal older sister, caitlyn is the rich privileged kid, jinx is the victim striking back. but that’s not correct. you miss a lot of nuance thinking that way.

vi is an older sister, but she’s self sacrificing and trying to learn to choose herself. she doesn’t KNOW how to be perfect because it’s impossible. she shouldn’t be expected to be the perfect older sister to jinx because she’s human.

caitlyn isn’t automatically evil because she’s rich. so many people overlook her actively working to address her privilege and help people just so they can hate on her. and i absolutely do believe that it’s a combination of the black and white thinking was talking about and misogyny.

jinx isn’t some poor victim, she’s been manipulated and used for a long time, but she’s also far from being in the right. she hurts innocent people and she’s lost because she’s never had the space to really put her mental health first.

if the characters were men i can guarantee that vi and caitlyn would be so much more liked. jinx would probably be about the same. a lot of the hate i see absolutely comes down to misogyny and expectations being placed on the characters.

honestly you said it perfectly.

Thanks! I can also say that these are not just assumptions but facts that people should realize and try to get rid of them and their superficial thinking, putting characters in boring stereotypes, and expecting characters to act as they are used to seeing in many works that constantly repeat the same ideas, as you said that Caitlyn is rich, so it means she must be evil, Vi is the older sister and reckless, so this makes her always sacrifice herself, and also makes her stupid, (I don't know why some people associate reckless characters with stupidity, this is so ridiculous and old thinking) and Jinx has every right to do whatever she wants of bad things just because she is crazy and poor and this is not her fault but society's fault, what is this stupidity and foolishness seriously!? There are people who are not the reason for Jinx's suffering like Caitlyn, but despite that people justify Jinx's actions and say that Caitlyn deserves it. They are so crazy

These people need to change their way of thinking, honestly, and accept new ideas and ways of telling stories. Not all stories should be traditional and naive. aren't they tired of this type of story that has become outdated? Arcane offers us a visual experience and stories that we haven't seen for a long time, and this is the type of story that we need now!

Because one of the details that I liked in the show, and I don't know if anyone else noticed it, is that there are more women in leadership positions than men. For example, Caitlyn's mother is the one who carries the Kiramman family name, not her father. So the inheritance passed from mother to daughter, and the same thing with Ambessa, Mel, and the Medarda family.

people who hate on vi except when shes living her whole life slaving away for jinx and jinx’s well-being and being 100% selfless constantly is. interesting.

interesting bc i’m the oldest sister in my family and that’s exactly what my parents expect of me.

how odd and silly that some people continue to parentify older sisters and refuse to care about them as characters when they aren’t constantly putting their sibling first.

that’s how i feel whenever i see a post about how vi’s character was completely sacrificed and then the explanation is all abt how she chose caitlyn and not jinx for the nth time.

I feel you, I'm also the older brother of 2 siblings, and everything you said is true here, and I want to add something I've noticed recently on social media, which is the obvious racism and misogyny, and how some people aren't used to this kind of narrative of female characters in shows and movies.

I mean, like let's just imagine JUST IMAGINE, if Vi were male, the narrative surrounding her actions and character would change dramatically. She would likely be hailed as a "brother hero," a model of loyalty and kindness despite impossible circumstances. Her trauma, in prison, losing Vander, failing to save Jinx, and so on, would be sympathized with as a testament to her strength and determination.

Her status as the “bad sister” is undoubtedly tied to gender expectations. Women, especially older sisters, are often burdened with the role of caregiver and are expected to be endlessly compassionate and self-sacrificing. Vi’s moments of anger, guilt, and mistakes, however, conflict with societal stereotypes of women as the natural “fixers” of emotional and familial conflicts. The fact that Vi is pigeonholed as the “bad sister” while Jinx is often seen as the tragic victim reflects deeper gender biases. Vi’s traumas and emotional wounds are ignored or minimized because she is expected to be the “strong one,” while Jinx is given sympathy and a more nuanced lens because her messiness and vulnerability fit into certain “stereotypes of women” who are “broken” or in need of “saving”.

It’s a frustrating double standard, and it underscores just how progressive Arcane is by refusing to fully give into those tropes. Vi’s character still shines as someone strong, flawed, and deeply human, but the criticisms she faces highlight how society treats female characters with such biases.

The misogyny is REAL and don’t think for a second that other women aren’t fully participating in that also. The amount of shit Vi gets for temporarily joining the Enforcers with Caitlyn to stop Jinx is insane. A male Vi would have been seen as a TORTURED HERO for joining up with the EVIL FORCES that took his parents away all so he could do HERO THINGS. But Vi does it? “Wah wah she joined the COPS she’s A TRAITOR THE REAL VI WOULD NEVER”. Like. Watch the show, my friends, and you will see she did what she thought was best and it was a very complex and very emotional decision for her. But no, people shit on Vi and then complain like any of them could write a better show.

And nobody would have hated a male Vi for having his love scene. Nobody. In fact, it would have been EXPECTED, but bc Vi’s a woman, and a lesbian expressing her big gay love for her gorgeous gay lover, some people refuse to see her humanity and her growth as a person in that moment. "Just Bc She Is a Lesbian"

ahh caitlyn my beloved.

let's talk about the trauma she has around jinx, in particular, in a way i think is more related to being targeted by jinx than just grief.

don't get me wrong- grief is a huge part of why caitlyn is all over the place this arc (season?). she probably came to the conclusion that her softer, pacifistic attitude from the first season is the reason she ended up hurt. clearly the rocky relationship she had with her mother adds a layer of bitterness and regret caitlyn is feeling regarding her death. alongside a million different reasons, which i might discuss in a different post.

but there's a clear difference between the anger and coldness we see from caitlyn when she discusses catching jinx and bringing her to justice, than when she faces jinx head on. in the latter, she suddenly loses her cool and acts all frantically, so unlike anything we've seen from caitlyn so far.

in her mind, in episode 1, she sees herself as collected and calm, aiming her rifle at jinx. btw, take note of how jinx is depicted here. her eyes are glowing.

but in reality, she's very much NOT cool and collected when she thinks that exact scenario is about to be replicated.

that's caitlyn's pov btw:

again jinx with the glowing eyes- caitlyn had seen what jinx looks like in other circumstances, but THIS is the version of her that she visualizes and then irrationally reacts to.

we see it again when she shoots jinx in the finger

no composure, no deep breathe, no thinking. she just shoots on instinct. it's nothing like she used to.

and then her frantically calling vi to move out of the way as she keeps firing, almost like shes blind to everything but jinx- the kid and vi, who are both in harm's way, don't stop her.

i know it's easy to just paint it as anger and grief here, but there's something about it that strikes me as almost like animalistic fear. she sees jinx and just goes feral mode, but its almost more of a prey instinct than a predator.

and i think it's because whenever she faces jinx, properly, it's not the grief and radicalized anger she's feeling, it just sends her back to this moment

with all the "jinx murdered her mom" talk its easy to forget that jinx also directly, and cruelly, targeted caitlyn, tried to kill her, kidnapped her and held her hostage for who knows how long. it's not just anger that caitlyn feels towards jinx. it's a trauma response. and like, welcome to the club, caitlyn! most of the arcane cast are acting out of trauma. but i better not see people think her trauma is somewhat lesser than some... other.. characters.

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The funniest thing is vehement caitlyn haters who get the facts wrong and absolutely did not understand the media they consumed. Like they're over here big mad(still) over something they did to themselves pretty much. Purposefully misconstruing the narrative and ignoring the story(specifically ignoring ambessa and the role she played as well as ignoring jinx as a major factor in zauns damnation)

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I love this so much!! Best art that expresses Caitlyn's sadness and suffering, I really wish I had seen something like this on the show.

I can say that Caitlyn's character is one of the most misunderstood characters ever, that these people see Caitlyn as just an enforcer from Piltover made them not understand her, or rather they don't want to understand her character.

Because it's getting really suspicious, I feel like Caitlyn's hate is more than just a character who did bad things. There are characters who did worse things. Let's take Silco, one of the characters who did the worst things in the entire show, from trying to kill an entire family for control, to flooding his entire population with shimmer and turning some of them into monsters and making children work in dangerous factories, all of this and he didn't get half the hate that Caitlyn did. Silco is a true dictator who didn't care about anyone but himself and his interests and his intentions were always evil. Unlike Caitlyn, she tried in the end to fix her mistakes and admitted her mistakes too. And to everyone says she is evil or dictatorial because she used gas, is it a bad thing yes, but Caitlyn had no evil intentions in using gas, she used Gray to facilitate the capture of Silco's gangs and allies who were basically harming the people of Zaun even the kids as we saw in ep 2 in S2 when Chross's Goons was following Isha, and of course capturing Jinx as well, she did that because it was a less harmful solution than sending armies of enforcers and Noxus men to Zaun, and we saw because she stopped using Gray after she end her mission and failed to capture Jinx. If Caitlyn was really evil and dictatorial as some people claim, she would have used Gray again to exterminate the people of Zaun, but she didn't do that because that's not her personality that we knew in season 1, and most of the problems that happened were because of Ambessa, and her manipulation and constant incitement for Caitlyn to capture Jinx.

So yeah hating on Caitlyn is so hypocritical and completely unnecessary, seriously I can't believe there are still people who message me and reblog my blogs and not just me but other people saying that Caitlyn is an evil cop and you should stop talking about her and liking her, or you'll be just like her. Are these people crazy or stupid or what exactly!? What does my liking a fictional character have to do with you thinking that I'll be like her in real life!? These people really need to grow up and leave people alone, like if you don't like something and you see someone else like it there's no need to give them your opinion because they won't care and we who like the same thing won't care either so why bother us with your opinion, and then it's selfish of you to want other people to be like you and agree with you (especially when your style of criticism is rude and terrible)

So I always say the show is not black and white, and there isn't only one side good and another side bad. Arcane proves every day that this show is not for everyone and if you want to enjoy it you have to open your mind well and be open-minded, and most importantly put politics and real-life issues aside, and enjoy this fantasy world with flawed characters and good writing. (This show is not designed to solve political issues. At the end of the day it is a show based on a video game)

Council: we're going to m!rder everyone in Zaun that we have to in order to catch Jinx

Caitlyn: wait no, a lot of innocent people will die if we do that. What about if me and a few others go in and find Jinx? We'll use the Grey specifically in areas where Jinx is, and it won't harm anyone, it's just to get Jinx to go out in the open so we can find her

Council: okay fine

--Caitlyn doesn't kill a single Zaunite the entire show unlike everyone else in the main cast besides Ekko. She immediately betrays Ambessa when she realizes that Ambessa is manipulating her grief to make her go along with violent plans. Then acknowledges that she was wrong for going along with Ambessa, admits that hated herself when she was so determined to find Jinx, FORGIVES Jinx for *kidnapping her, attempting to kill her multiple times, severely injuring her, and murdering her mom,* allows Vi to set Jinx free, and in the end gives up her seat on the Council to Sevika (showing that she never wanted power and knows that Zaun needs representation in government)--

Fandom: ...CAITLYN HATES ZAUNITES AND TRIED TO KILL THEM ALL!!!!!! SHE NEVER CARED ABOUT ANYONE ELSE!!!! ANYONE WHO LIKES HER IS A MONSTER!!!

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reminder that you can disagree with Caitlyn's actions and still acknowledge both why she did them and that she worked to rectify them. as someone who's ancestors were actually g@ssed and killed... I literally cannot comprehend how people think that's the same thing as what Caitlyn did

Anyways! Quick rant!

WELL SAID!!!

It's funny and annoying at the same time that these people don't say this to people or fans who love Silco, Ambessa and Viktor who have done terrible things that are much worse than Caitlyn, they are just a bunch of hypocrites and literally stupid