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It's funny and weird at the same time how some people call Caitlyn's Evil Cop, or Bad Character, or whatever. SHE IS NOT!!

Like let's be serious guys, we never saw her kill an innocent person, even when my friend saw the show he is not a fan of Arcane but he saw a lot of comments about it and I also urged him to watch it after all the excitement around it when I asked him about his opinion on the show and especially the character of Caitlyn he told me, he expected after all the posts and comments about her that she would go to Zaun and kill people with her gun he didn't expect that she just wears a costume that looks like a vampire and looks tough and mean, she would get this much hate. He even asked me why people don't talk or blame Ambessa isn't she the main reason behind most of the problems in this season and also Singed or even Silco and his allies?

I couldn't answer him except that people have double standards and are hypocrites because their criticism of Caitlyn's character is not because she did one bad thing but because she is from Piltover and an enforcer. I'm sure if Caitlyn was from Zaun and did worse things they would sympathize with her and love her, so their criticism is so hypocritical and has double standards. In short, their criticism of a character is not because she did bad things, but because of who she is and where she is from.

They forget that silco and his allies kills a lot of people and children, mainly people from the undercity, even kids and he was pay enforcers to kill anyone who opposed him. And in LOL have put a mini game on the clien and there you could find out that Silco use kids as lab rat to test the chem tanks.

If you're really mad at Caitlyn for her bad actions, so why do you sympathize with these criminals??

Btw, I'm glad Caitlyn took them down. They deserved it, for what they did to the Zaun people during Silco's 7 years of rule. He kills an entire family just to control Zaun and flooding an entire city with shimmer.

And I'm sure now someone will come and tell me that Caitlyn used the gas on all of Zaun and killed people with it. Seriously idiot where did you get this? Can you show me a picture from the show that people died because of grey, and if it's true then the characters must are talking about it, that Caitlyn uses grey to kill innocent people. So this claim is not true, we saw at the beginning of episode 3 how Caitlyn used the gas strategically and not randomly and Amanda confirmed that. So she used it to catch gangs there. Bc seriously, 5 people wouldn't go to catch hundreds of gang members that easily, and also if one of the people got hurt Ekko would have talked about it and we know that Ekko is the most loyal person to his people, so even Ekko himself didn't complain about using grey, he and Scar were talking about the gangs that were working with Silco, and they didn't care about gas, why? Because this gas didn't hurt them.

This is clear evidence. What more do you want? The writers confirmed and even in the art book, it is written that Caitlyn used it to take down the Chem-Barons goons and not to eliminate the Zaun people as some stupid claim.

Even if it hurt them and that using it was an evil act, why didn't you say this when Jinx used it on Piltover and injured innocent people, women and children, she didn't target enforcers for example, Jinx use the Grey randomly unlike Caitlyn, but is anyone talking about this? Of course not. And worse when I saw comments saying that Jinx should blow up Piltover again and eliminate the people of Piltover. Like some people have shown their true colors, that they don't care if a character did something bad or good, all they care about is who this character is.

And because Jinx is from Zaun and they have every right to do bad things, but Piltover doesn't even if they do good things they are still bad, what a shallow and ridiculous thinking. some Arcane fandom are probably the most stupid fandom nowadays, to them everyone from Zaun is a perfect angel who never do nothing wrong, everyone from Piltover is a monster with no feelings

The show is not black and white there is not one side is good and another side is bad, that only exists in Disney movies, go and watch it if you are this kind of boring and traditional storytelling.

Arcane proves every day that this show is not for everyone and if you want to enjoy it you have to open your mind well and be open-minded, and most importantly put politics and real life issues aside, and enjoy this fantasy world with flawed characters and good writing. (This show is not designed to solve political issues at the end of the day. It is a show based on a video game)

So there is no need to take this show seriously and insult people and spread false allegations about people who love a fictional character just to feel that you are morally superior, do not see that you look like asshole 🙂

This post is absolutely incredible. Thank you.

Arcane fans try not to be classist because characters are born from the "poorer" end of their nation/country challenge: impossible

Holy fuck I despise this headcanon with the white hot intensity of ten thousand suns. Just flames, flames on the sides of my face.....

No, but seriously, what a gross take. There's absolutely no reason to even have it to begin with. How often do y'all even think about whether or not a character can read in any other media? You just assume they can, right?

But the very MOMENT y'all got even a taste of a classism plot, y'all immediately assume that the poor kid can't read. Powder obviously reads, y'all think she wouldn't have helped Vi as kids? Or Vander who own a business and would need to do bookkeeping and inventory? Or Claggor who apparently becomes an inventor in his own right in the alternate universe? You don't get as far as he did in only seven years if you're coming from illiteracy, he would have had to spend YEARS catching up before moving on to the sciences. Ekko and even Benzo would have been around to help too.

All the Zaun kids can fucking read you goddamn numpties.

I know no one is going to actually read this but fuck oh my god

I've been in multiple fandoms over the years and never EVER in my life I've seen people have such visceral reactions towards a character like Caitlyn Kirammam.

There are mulpitle characters with way WAY more questionable actions than hers and I barely see anything of them...like people may don't like them but it's never in such an insane degree...

People bringing up real life tragedies when talking about her is so triggering :( both my grandparents are Syrian refugees and to see people talking abt genocide so casually it's just so insane.

Sorry but hating a fictional character it's not the activism you think it is... like fuck off you live in Ohio you know nothing about opression, let people enjoy stuff in peace.

Not only this but I actually live in Rio and in a extremely dangerous zone and to see people glazing over Silco like he is this revolutionary guy makes my skin BURN.

I dare you to go inside a favela and talk to a real life Silco, like come on be serious.

You can like however character you like but stop pretending that is activism bc it is not, it's pathetic.

I know no one is going to actually read this but fuck oh my god

I've been in multiple fandoms over the years and never EVER in my life I've seen people have such visceral reactions towards a character like Caitlyn Kirammam.

There are mulpitle characters with way WAY more questionable actions than hers and I barely see anything of them...like people may don't like them but it's never in such an insane degree...

People bringing up real life tragedies when talking about her is so triggering :( both my grandparents are Syrian refugees and to see people talking abt genocide so casually it's just so insane.

Sorry but hating a fictional character it's not the activism you think it is... like fuck off you live in Ohio you know nothing about opression, let people enjoy stuff in peace.

Most of her most asinine critics are teenagers from at the very least middle class families safely sequestered away from the ugliest sides of reality in a blue state or blue city in America. You can tell because of the way they romanticize human suffering to make their shitty online hot takes about fictional media spicier as they've never personally faced any significant hardship in their lives. Also the extreme tendency to view content in a very Americanized way as they hamfistedly try to one-to-one fit Arcane's societal issues to the only thing they know.

Or at least, that's the intent. In reality, they come off utterly ignorant.

Yeah, fiction has real-life parallels, but they're not actually talking about Caitlyn like that. They're making shit up about her actions wholesale to give themselves moral superiority. It's frankly insufferable, and I just block Caitlyn haters on sight now. I no longer care to take the time to see if their dislike is nuanced or interesting. Nine times out of ten, you check their bio, and it's a sixteen year old with zero real-world experience mouthing off lmao

The funniest thing is vehement caitlyn haters who get the facts wrong and absolutely did not understand the media they consumed. Like they're over here big mad(still) over something they did to themselves pretty much. Purposefully misconstruing the narrative and ignoring the story(specifically ignoring ambessa and the role she played as well as ignoring jinx as a major factor in zauns damnation)

I want to talk about the people who are overlook Caitlyn's trauma and the suffering she went through in two seasons, to the point where it's really annoying and suspicious, honestly.

There are people who unironically believe she deserved the worst in season 1 alone. S1 when she did nothing wrong at all. On the contrary - she's trying to do a lot of good, she's being selfless and compassionate. On the other hand, characters who did commit crimes are being excused.

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Like some people see her as privileged and as someone who suffered enough not like Vi and Jinx (she only lost her mom, she had a funeral when Zaunites don't) so she can't be a victim and feel pain and lost. This is so fucking stupid!

rich people can also be in grief and a target for manipulation. They are human beings too, a shock that has nothing to do with social status or job. And here are the reasons I think people so easily villainize Caitlyn:

Before that there is something important I have to talk about there’s also such a problem with people viewing things as either completely right/good or completely wrong/terrible and with people not able/willing to admit when they’re wrong or when someone has changed their mind.

Opinions are mistaken for facts. Differing viewpoints are attacked with ferocity. Hateful things are said about fictional characters who are supposed to bring us joy/comfort. It’s freaking ridiculous and has become such a massive problem in several of my top fandoms and I’m exhausted.

So back again to Caitlyn their reasoning is she comes from a privileged upbringing, is part of the oppressive higher social order and is a member of the police force that frequently harasses the citizens of Zaun. All of these come together to make her appear as someone that we as a progressive and morally just society are meant to frown upon and judge, cause those types of people are often to blame for many of the issues in our society.

With those pieces in place they see her as this inherently morally wrong person who needs to be dragged through the fire in order to redeem herself. They hold her to an almost impossibly high standard and will tear her apart if she even slightly steps over the lines they have laid out for her. That's why they like to paint her as genocidal war criminal for releasing The Grey and choose to ignore the obvious that she used it strategically rather than flood the whole city like Jinx did(who btw will get endless passes and excuses for her actions cause she is the "true victim" of the story). Jinx is not the only victim on the show.

And there is something else I want to talk about it, and it's modern liberal spaces, especially among young people. Most people have become obsessed with putting people in little boxes and making assumptions based on that alone. They are unwilling or incapable of seeing people as PEOPLE instead of just labels. It's like re-inventing the racism wheel all over again. We put labels on people and decide if they're good or bad, we don't look at what they do or listen to what they say because that's harder. It's easier to just discriminate against someone based on how they were born. And then the irony is people will accuse Caitlyn of discriminating against others when actually they're the ones discriminating against her, based on her background. It's just a maddening endless cycle of hate.

They also don't quite realize that not everything in the show is meant to be an allegory for real life political turmoil. The concept of a privileged society oppressing another through force has been done in many stories and while they may have been inspired by real events that doesn't mean they were intentionally sending a politically driven message to the masses.

Caitlyn's haters also brush over her trauma a lot too, not only of her mother's death and wanting to avenge it. But to also wanting to kill the person who kidnapped her and almost killed her twice. She hasn't had the time to really process it all and all those wounds are fresh in early season 2 so of course she ends up going dark for a time.

Caitlyn went through grieving, angered, depressed, vulnerable, and... alone. Not a single voice of reason or support around

• Father? Also grieving and distant.

• Childhood friend? Disappeared.

• Vi? Pushed away.

And that’s the vacuum Ambessa mentioned when talking to Vi. People still didn’t understand that? Wow, I guess not everyone throughly watches the plot of series, I suppose.

So in the end Caitlyn for me has one of the best arcs, if not the best, while not being a clown, like Jinx (I like Jinx tbh, but least be real guys). Some people just hate it. Some envy it. Bc much of Cait's hate is simply irrational. Just ugly whining babys out there.

They are literally make Caitlyn the only villain in Arcane. There's Jinx who committed acts of terrorism and murderer. There's Silco's right hand ( I mean Sevika) happily enforcing his rule through violence. There's Silco himself, who tried to kill an entire family and forced the children to work in the Shimmer factories and he suppressed his people himself so that they would obey him, and there is Ambessa the character who committed the most evil acts in the show. And Viktor, who wanted to kill and control all the people of the two cities of Piltover and Zaun. But no, it's Cait that is the worst 🤡

Make it make sense.

Just all of this.

At this point these haters need to get left in there echo chambers to rotaway it’s about to be April. 

The amount of people who totally disregard the whole speech leading up this moment make me question my own sanity.

I'm not doing a deep-dive. I've talked about this a lot. But Ambessa stands up in front of the rich and powerful of Piltover and plays them like a fucking fiddle. She stokes their fear. Justifies their rage. Promises them safety. And she caps it all off with convincing them to turn over "control" (while of course taking it for herself the whole time) to a traumatized young woman in her early twenties whose ENTIRE FUCKING LIFE just got blown apart.

It isn't complicated. You just need to watch the show. As a reminder, this is Ambessa when she realizes she has won-

Okay, we’re doing this again.

Domestic Abuse: “We define domestic abuse as an incident or pattern of incidents of controlling, coercive, threatening, degrading and violent behavior.”

Key words there: PATTERN of incidents. If not a pattern then the incident must contain controlling, coercive, threatening or degrading types of violent behavior.

Caitlyn trying to leave a situation where Vi is holding her back and using the butt of her gun to get Vi to release her grip and let her go isn’t a pattern of abuse. It is not threatening her. It is not controlling her. It is not coercing her. It is not degrading her. It is literally someone trying to get free from someone who is actively restricting her movements.

Fascism: “Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement. Fascism rejects the view that violence is inherently negative or pointless but rather views imperialism, political violence, and war as means to national rejuvenation.”

Key word there: Philosophy. That’s a belief in the ideology. To be a fascist is to believe in the rhetoric of fascism.

So while Caitlyn was manipulated into declaring Martial Law by an actual Fascist (Ambessa), Caitlyn often REJECTS the ideology at every turn. When she is actively butting heads with Ambessa and complaining that you need “probable cause for an arrest” that is Caitlyn REJECTING Fascist Ideology. This rejection of the ideology is why she ultimately BETRAYS Ambessa. So no, Caitlyn is NOT a fascist.

Martial Law: “Martial law is typically declared in situations where civilian authorities are unable to maintain order, such as during natural disasters, civil unrest, or invasions.”

A key component of Martial Law is that it is a TEMPORARY SOLUTION to a problem, not one that is sustainable for lengthy periods of time. It’s often used in times of war or for emergencies such as civil unrest and natural disasters.

Declaring Martial Law when your government has been attacked by a terrorist is something that happens. And the key component in this situation is that the power it entails is willingly given BACK to the government once the crisis is over. Which Caitlyn DOES. Proving once again that she is not a dictator, nor a fascist.

Sexual Assault: “Sexual assault is an act of sexual abuse in which one intentionally sexually touches another person without that person's consent, or coerces or physically forces a person to engage in a sexual act against their will.”

Key words there: Lack of consent and physically forces a person to engage in sexual acts against their will.

Caitlyn sleeping with Maddie isn’t sexual assault. It’s two consenting adults having a relationship. Now while there is definitely a potential power imbalance there with Caitlyn being Maddie’s superior… that does not make this sexual assault or abuse.

Especially with the fact that it is CAITLYN who is the one refusing to engage with the unwanted sexual touch and acts that Maddie is constantly putting on her. And of course the elephant in the room is that Maddie is a Noxian spy, which means that in this situation it could be argued MADDIE is the one sexually assaulting Caitlyn, because she coerced Caitlyn to sleep with her.

WORDS MEAN THINGS. THIS SHOULD NOT BE HARD. YOU SHOULD HAVE THE MENTAL POWER TO UNDERSTAND THESE DEFINITIONS AND HOW THEY APPLY TO ARCANE.

Hot take: Caitlyn Kiraman is one of the few characters in Arcane that had a moral backbone. Case and point: Girlie knew she was fucked up for letting Ambessa influence her for too long and decided to betray Ambessa and right her wrongs.

And no, Caitlyn was never a dictator. Girlie got gaslight and peer-pressured to take over the Marshall Law, and honestly, she was smart to do that actually. Because if she outright saying "No", Ambessa would have made her disappeared and found another puppet to control.

And can we drop with the "Caitlyn is a fascist/dictator" nonsense? We have Ambessa and a whole Noxus for that..

"Critical" arguments for jinx are always just: she was poor and oppressed ofc she killed and murdered and terrorized people, we can't have higher expectations for her.

And never taking into account the amount of murdering and terrorizing and oppressing of her OWN PEOPLE she did.

"I can defend jinx but not caitlyn because jinx was just a poor girl from zaun"

Well the first thing is; jinx targets weren't only piltover and enforcers. She helped cause further harm and oppression to her own people. Not to mention being poor and oppressed doesn't mean you get to terrorize and murder anyone just because they're more well off than you?

"Criticals' love to write whole essays about why jinx was right for doing all the bullshit she did but the only explanation ever is "she was poor and zaunites don't know better" basically.

fr tho

they're glazing jinx so much, because she's the ultimate power fantasy to them. they dream of doing something as radical as blowing up the government and sticking it to the elites, because they don't have the means or courage to do anything more radical than reblogging another palestinian gofundme scam and scream into the void.

all the while caitlyn is the manifestation of everything they hate, a perfect outlet for all their cowardly resentment with the world. they couldn't care less about her writing or motivations, or even the context of the show. because they have concluded that she's the ultimate big bad fascist rich cop that is incapable of doing anything good and that they should've been intvited into the writing room. and they pride themselves on such ignorance so much.

yet these dipshits have the nerve to complain about the supposed "woobification" of caitlyn, as if that's not exactly what they're doing to jinx. they're just taking it a step further by moralizing their woobification. which is just fucking pathetic at this point.

The Absolute Accuracy!!! Lord!!  

Time bomb shippers. How do you manage to get a music video and still worrying about Caitvi? the biggest amount of Hailey Baldwin energy I’ve ever seen. 

It is fucking hilarious and sad. Talk about insecurity holy shit 😹

Like the only people bringing Caitvi to the conversation our Timebomb shippers y’all can’t even enjoy the video y’all are so miserable it’s embarrassing !!!

Like damn.

Fr!! they can’t keep them out of their mouth.

Also every Timebomb edit I comfront there’s always a top comment about Caitvi. Like enjoy ur damn faves man🥲 And I see some people say that ”the scene between Jinx and Ekko is more intimate than the caitvi scene” out of spite pack it up yall do this with literally every scene between ur favs and look like fools. why is caitvi always the busdriver.

Like why they can't just enjoy the scene on its own like bro nobody gaf that you found ur favs breathing the same air more intimate LEAVE CAITVI ALONE! cuz why are they actively making this fandom more toxic by whacking caitvi UNPROVOKED like why are we in it?

They claim they don't hate women or lesbians, even though their misogyny and homophobia are so obvious, they are so annoying.

I really don't understand why all this anger and ship wars these people are waging, it seriously makes no sense at all. I mean, if you don't like something, that's your opinion but you have to respect the people who like it.

Like for real tho it’s so Annoying it’s like why are they bringing them up???! 

Has anyone noticed this too? A girl who lost her mother.

No wonder Caitlyn was so fucking angry at this time, not only was it an attack on the memorial after losing her mother and being kidnapped and tortured etc... but her people died and children lost their mothers, just like this girl. And Cait was definitely feeling her sadness and fear.

This also reminds me of those people who say Caitlyn changed just bc her mother died, or how can she change just bc of one person's death? Well idiots IT'S NOT LIKE THAT!!

Like “Oh but she’s from Piltover, she gets all the luxuries that ppl of Zaun don’t” burying your mam in a nice casket does not make the pain any easier to deal with assholes!! she went through sm and people still overlooked her trauma as if she shouldn't be sad and angry bc she's an enforcer, rich, and an adult. WHAT STUPIDITY IS THIS? Seriously what does all this have to do with the character not being traumatized? These people should study psychology and educate themselves a little.

Like people forget this all happened to her in the span of less than a week. She went from a peaceful, pretty sheltered life to being terrorised by Jinx with almost no reprieve.

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These people are asking and others are angry why Caitlyn has changed, this girl has been through hell bc of Jinx.

Jinx didn't show any mercy to Caitlyn. And Caitlyn has every right to hate her!! People who overlook what Jinx has done to her are so annoying. The change that happened to Caitlyn It did not start when her mother was killed.

She is gets more hate than the actual villains, and she did less harm than any other leader of Piltover or Zaun. People who excuse characters like Viktor, Sevika or Silco and even Ambessa, but they draw the line on Caitlyn?? they just wanna hate her tbh. Like they don’t comment on the bad and worst things that (Silco, Viktor, SINGED) did

Silco flooded the lanes with shimmer, pay the enforcers to 💀 zaunites and kid / nap children to work on his shimmer factories, and he was a perpetrator of his people suffering. All this and people are justifying his actions, well what about Caitlyn!?

And now someone will come with their stupid excuse and say “Silco is oppressed and wanted to free Zaun” Well being oppressed does not justify him oppressing his people too. Like where is the independence you guys are talking about, when he hurt his people to obey him, and force children to work in dangerous factories and pay enforcers to kill anyone who opposes him, why didn't he pay enforcers to work with him for benefit Zaun, if he really cared about people in Zaun!? And of course there is no need to talk about Ambessa and Singed, the most evil characters who did selfish things, and Viktor as well. But People Don't Care🙄

(I love Viktor btw) but what he did was so bad and terrible!! way worse than what or any other character.

But again people don't care what bad things Viktor did or would do, is it bc he's from Zaun, or bc he's a man? Anything goes... So I really want to know what's wrong with these people who hate Caitlyn so much.

Like it's okay to not like her and not accept her character, but spreading false information about her like “she gassed all of Zaun or that she does dictatorial things” which is absolutely not true. or worse, insulting and cursing people who love Caitlyn and spreading lies about them like they support corrupt regimes or that they are part of the KKK or that they support police brutality in real life bc they love a fictional character. This is so fucking crazy and I sick of it!! Like what makes these people think that I would be act like a fictional character in real life? They really need therapy.

Like they criticizing her bc they feel morally superior bc she's an enforcer and rich?? This is really so ridiculous.

Once again, an incredible post like thank you 🙏

I personally have a theory at this point in march 2025! about these people, the Cait haters I feel like they’re eating their own excrement in their echo chambers. thinking that they’re smart or funny or revolutionary or feel good about themselves, but the reality is, is that their unhinged, immature, embarrassing, and desperate. 

"Critical" arguments for jinx are always just: she was poor and oppressed ofc she killed and murdered and terrorized people, we can't have higher expectations for her.

And never taking into account the amount of murdering and terrorizing and oppressing of her OWN PEOPLE she did.

"I can defend jinx but not caitlyn because jinx was just a poor girl from zaun"

Well the first thing is; jinx targets weren't only piltover and enforcers. She helped cause further harm and oppression to her own people. Not to mention being poor and oppressed doesn't mean you get to terrorize and murder anyone just because they're more well off than you?

"Criticals' love to write whole essays about why jinx was right for doing all the bullshit she did but the only explanation ever is "she was poor and zaunites don't know better" basically.