Property talk:P1472
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name of Commons Infobox template residing in "Creator" namespace on Wikimedia Commons
Represents | Commons Creator page (Q24731821) | ||||||||||||
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Has quality | MediaWiki page title (Q83336425) | ||||||||||||
Data type | String | ||||||||||||
Domain | According to this template:
Persons, groups of people
According to statements in the property:
When possible, data should only be stored as statementshuman (Q5), organization (Q43229), group of humans (Q16334295), notname (Q1747829), workshop (Q656720), corporation (Q167037), person (Q215627), YouTube channel (Q17558136), artificial intelligence model (Q117349473) or generative artificial intelligence (Q117246174) | ||||||||||||
Allowed values | According to this template:
Creator-space page on Commons
According to statements in the property:
When possible, data should only be stored as statements(?![Cc]reator\s*:)[^\[\]\|]+ | ||||||||||||
Example | Stanley R. H. Rogers (Q7599919) → Stanley R. H. Rogers Carol M. Highsmith (Q5044454) → Carol M. Highsmith Zbigniew Herbert (Q161363) → Zbigniew Herbert | ||||||||||||
Formatter URL | https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Creator:$1 | ||||||||||||
Robot and gadget jobs | Yes; note that Creator templates (such as the example above) may include a Wikidata ID. | ||||||||||||
Tracking: usage | Category:Pages using Wikidata property P1472 (Q61035452) | ||||||||||||
See also | Commons gallery (P935), Commons Institution page (P1612), creator (P170), Commons category (P373) | ||||||||||||
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Proposal discussion | Proposal discussion | ||||||||||||
Current uses |
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Search for values |
(?![Cc]reator\s*:)[^\[\]\|]+
”: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1472#Type Q5, Q43229, Q16334295, Q1747829, Q656720, Q167037, Q215627, Q17558136, Q117349473, Q117246174, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1472#Commons link
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1472#Scope, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1472#Entity types
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1472#Item P373, search, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1472#Label in 'en' language, search, SPARQL
This property is being used by: Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.) |
People with Commons Creator page (P1472) born before the year 1900, but no date of death (P570) (Help)
Violations query:
SELECT DISTINCT ?item WHERE { ?item wdt:P1472 [] . ?item p:P569 ?birthclaim . MINUS { ?item p:P570 [] } ?birthclaim ps:P569 ?birth . FILTER(?birth < "+1900-00-15T00:00:00Z"^^xsd:dateTime) . } ORDER BY ?birth LIMIT 1000
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1472#Probably death
People with Commons Creator page (P1472) born after 1900, but no country of citizenship (P27) (Help)
Violations query:
SELECT DISTINCT ?item WHERE { ?item wdt:P1472 [] . ?item p:P569 ?birthclaim . MINUS { ?item p:P27 [] } ?birthclaim ps:P569 ?birth . FILTER(?birth > "+1900-00-00T00:00:00Z"^^xsd:dateTime) . } ORDER BY ?birth LIMIT 1000
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1472#20th-century artists without nationality
People with Commons Creator page (P1472) and occupation (P106) but without a occupation that would create suitable works for Commons. The occupations are artist (Q483501), author (Q482980), botanist (Q2374149), zoologist (Q350979), cartographer (Q1734662), scientist (Q901) and subclasses of these. (Help)
Violations query:
SELECT DISTINCT ?item WHERE { ?item wdt:P1472 [] . ?item wdt:P106 [] . ?item wdt:P31 wd:Q5 . MINUS {?item wdt:P106/wdt:P279* wd:Q483501} . MINUS {?item wdt:P106/wdt:P279* wd:Q482980} . MINUS {?item wdt:P106/wdt:P279* wd:Q2374149} . MINUS {?item wdt:P106/wdt:P279* wd:Q350979} . MINUS {?item wdt:P106/wdt:P279* wd:Q1734662} . MINUS {?item wdt:P106/wdt:P279* wd:Q901} . } LIMIT 1000
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1472#No suitable occupation
Should we delete some constraints?
[edit]This property has some constraints with a LOT of violations, like requirement for presence of date of birth (P569) and place of birth (P19). For many old masters date of birth (P569), place of birth (P19) are often unknown and it is just too much work to list 4 thousand exceptions. So I would propose to just not keep track of it. occupation (P106) also has over thousand violations but that one we should be able to add. --Jarekt (talk) 19:02, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
- Yes! Good idea. I'd say: Go forward! --Marsupium (talk) 00:56, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
- Done. Wikidata:Database reports/Humans with missing claims covers this. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:06, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks --Jarekt (talk) 13:17, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
Restrict P1472 to humans only?
[edit]I was thinking about restricting P1472 to humans only. Great majority of Creator templates correspond to humans but we have bout 80 templates with corporate or group type (see c:Category:Creator_templates_by_type) and they correspond to majority of exceptions. What I would propose is to not keep P1472 links for those. That would greatly simplify our constraints. We should also discourage people from creating new Creator templates for groups and institutions. --Jarekt (talk) 14:07, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
- This is an old comment, but I disagree. Companies that create furniture, pottery, and other decorative objects should have Creator IDs and Creator templates, just as they have IDs in museum artist databases. - PKM (talk) 20:05, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
"occupation" as a required statement
[edit]I am planning to also remove "occupation" as a required statement with this property, as the property is used for a lot non-individual creators. Any objections? --Jarekt (talk) 13:54, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
- Done I removed requirement for having "Occupation"--Jarekt (talk) 02:10, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
Regular expression constraints
[edit]Regular expression constraints are listed on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ConstraintReport/P1472 as problematic: "(?![Cc]reator\s*:)[^][|]+ is not a valid regular expression." can be found if you hover your mouse over the top line [?]. That expression was added by user:Multichill here. Is there a problem with the expression or with the Special:ConstraintReport? May be a better regular expression would be to catch strings with ":", "_", "%" characters, indicating use of namespace, underscores instead of spaces and non utf-8 characters encoded using utf-8 symbols? --Jarekt (talk) 14:22, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
- @Jarekt: I think the regex part is broken? Even Special:ConstraintReport/P650 throws a warning. If you click the query you'll notice a remark: "differences in regex format between SPARQL (https://www.w3.org/TR/xpath-functions/#regex-syntax) and PCRE (used by constraint reports)". That might explain it.
- This is a bit of a funky regex I think I pulled from P373. Regex on Commons category (P373) seems to be completely useless at the moment. Not sure why the old one was removed. Multichill (talk) 19:23, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
Commons link constraint: Commons link should exist.
[edit]Can we delete the constraint 'Commons link constraint: Commons link should exist'. It isn't clear which link to Commons it is demanding, we have 4 possibilities. I am assuming it wants the link in "Other sites" but when I add the category link I still get the error message. If it doesn't want a category link it must want the other type of link, the page where you can arrange the files in any order you want, but less than half of the categories have that type of page. --RAN (talk) 20:10, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
I am deleting it, it can always be restored, but it is giving over 10,000 warnings and there is no permutation of adding links to Commons that gets rid of it.--RAN (talk) 05:12, 7 February 2020 (UTC)- @Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ): The “Commons link” means the value that’s stored in that very statement, which is a page name on Commons; it has nothing to do with the Commons sitelink. Actually there’s a bug in the Wikibase software that causes these false positives, see phab:T237920. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 20:14, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks! I realized the constraint we have listed didn't correspond to the error, so I did not remove anything. --RAN (talk) 20:35, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
As of january 2021 it looks like this strange error still exists, as far as I can see on all places where the property is used. --Dick Bos (talk) 10:15, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
URL Match pattern
[edit]I have added a "URL match pattern" to allow tools such Q99894727 understand the relation between wikidata and these templates and to make linking them up very quick, ping me if you have any questions Back ache (talk) 11:59, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
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