User talk:Bossanoven

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Commons cats

Hi, it is a bit controversial to add commonscat links to non-cats items, but I agree with that and not discouraging you to do so. But while adding these please add same category as Property:P373. --Jklamo (talk) 21:32, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree as to your first point because these are Commonscat links to people, and the vast majority of people do not have their own self-named categories on Wikipedia. As to your second request, I don't understand what you are suggesting. Are you asking me to add a property to each of these categories? - Bossanoven (talk) 00:39, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I also disagree with first point, but it is good to know that it is controversial (see Wikidata:Requests for comment/Category commons P373 and "Other sites" or Wikidata:Requests for comment/Commons links). For second request I am asking to do this). It is a bit duplicate work, but it is a proper way recognized by all users.--Jklamo (talk) 14:20, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I heed the policy and will abide by it. I will go back and revise some of my previous edits. - Bossanoven (talk) 00:51, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Unsupported aliases

Hi! I notice you've been repeatedly adding aliases that don't seem to be supported by the relevant Wikipedia articles. For example, this revision on Michael Jordan (Q41421) where you added "Captain Marvel", "Superman", and five others names, many of which are likely to cause confusion. Are you drawing these from some source that I've missed? Is Wikipedia missing these aliases? Thanks! Bovlb (talk) 02:07, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I am drawing them from the respective player pages on Basketball-Reference.com. - Bossanoven (talk) 02:10, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I see them here. I'm having trouble finding any other source that attests to them. I wonder how reliable that source is. We don't really have clear guidelines on aliases. Bovlb (talk) 17:28, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rare aliases

Hello,
About Michael Jordan (Q41421), several users have removed the rare aliases, since January. I have been one of the few users who took the time to discuss with you.
The next time someone undo your edit, could you revert his edit (or even better: discuss with him), instead of reverting my old edit? I don't want to receive a revert notification everytime someone disagrees with you.
Regards --NicoScribe (talk) 09:40, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Use nickname property for adding nick names

I could not find many of the aliases you have put for Michael Jordan on his wikipedia page. If you have citations for a nick name use https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1449 and cite it. And stop threatening to block me.

Can you please move them to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1449 and cite?

Thanks! Can we remove them from aliases now?

Issue is that searching for batman brings up Michael Jordan first and then the real batman. There are more relevant results for batman than MJ.

I see MJ as the first result for "Air" & "Batman" in the search box.

Homicide

Hi, Bossanoven. Homicide is an illegal killing of a human. Kevin Janson Neal was legally killed by deputy sheriffs while he was committing homicides in the Rancho Tehama Reserve shootings. There is a clearer Wikidata statement to describe his death, but I do not know what it is. I simply know that homicide is not it. Thank you for adding statements to the item. Ping me back. Having fun! Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 20:30, 7 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Checkingfax: Homicide is defined as the killing of one human by another. Legality of the act in the particular instance does not enter into it. Homicide is a manner of death.

Perhaps you thinking of wikt:suicide by cop, but there is no evidence in the article suggesting it. The MOD certainly looks like homicide. - Bossanoven (talk) 20:51, 7 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Bossanoven. The mainstream dictionaries disagree and are more specific. Our Wiktionary and our Wikipedia are uncited in this area. To that end, I found and used justifiable homicide (Q6317275) for the interim. Thank you for your reply. I really appreciate it. Having fun! Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 20:58, 7 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Checkingfax: Justifiable homicide is a concept in law, not a manner of death, IIRC. i.e. John Wayne Gacy's death certificate states homicide as his own manner of death. If you were to apply this field, you would be making judgment calls. - Bossanoven (talk) 21:12, 7 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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"Rejecting the blood"

"Rejecting the blood" is a nonsense expression that gets a grand total of 35 Google hits, most of which are false positives. It's not a religious view. It's junk. Bueller 007 (talk) 00:37, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

List possible causes of death

I believe it would make sense to double-check %Subj% (see [1]). Are there any items that looks incorrect? --Ghuron (talk) 13:46, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Merging

Hallo Bossanoven,
When you merge items, you may want to use the merge.js gadget from help page about merging. It helps with merging, gives the option to always keep the lower number (which is older, so preferable in most cases) and removes the need to file a request on Wikidata:Requests for deletions.
With regards,- cycŋ - (talk • contribs • logs) 06:13, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Cycn: Thanks. - Bossanoven (talk) 01:32, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

hemophilia (Q134003)

Hello!. You are reverted my edition. You are added "hemophiliac" that I had eliminated it. As you know, an haemophilic is a person has hemophilia. Therefore, it is not an "Alias" but a related word. Perhaps a new field for related words should be added to wikidata, but now this does not exist and should not be mixed with the alias. Please, reconsider your action. --Jordi March (talk) 20:47, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Bossanoven: I understand that you have no interest in answering me. I revert your reversal. --Jordi March (talk) 08:30, 11 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Jmarchn: We might put a related word now and again when it has no other place on Wikidata and eases navigation on Wikidata. That means the word has one unique place on Wikidata. The same thing would be a plausible search term on a Wikipedia and would therefore be a redirect to hemophilia. The search of a string like hemophiliac would yield no relevant results on Wikidata if it were not added to hemophilia. - Bossanoven (talk) 08:55, 11 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Religion of Chris Cornell

Hi, I understand you reversed my issue on removing Chris Cornell's religion of Catholicism. I know he got married in church, but that doesn't mean he's Catholic, that he's religious. I think it can confuse people, it's one thing to get married for the church and another thing is their personal belief, don't you think? Here are sources that he was an atheist/agnostic in an interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZB5NHSI64I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBmj7andPi3E --Ivanretro (talk) 03:29, 11 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Ivanretro: Chris Cornell went to Catholic school growing up. That makes him someone who had been Catholic in the eyes of the Catholic Church, although he claimed that he never attended Mass, which makes no sense because he'd need to attend First Communion in order to go to Catholic school. - Bossanoven (talk) 08:46, 11 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Homicides

What do you mean by name (P2561)? Do you plan to add Latin names to all notions? Isn't it enough to have Latin labels? --Infovarius (talk) 21:22, 8 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Why Latin? I want to copy Russian label to P2561 too. --Infovarius (talk) 14:18, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Infovarius: Are you saying that you want to put the Russian label for an item such as homicide by using the name properly? - Bossanoven (talk) 01:47, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The root language of those terms is Latin. - Bossanoven (talk) 01:55, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

At last I understand what you want to say. But the problem is that Wikidata items are not about terms - they are about phenomena! So e.g. Q10345565 has Russian label "отцеубийство" which has little in common with your Latin "name". --Infovarius (talk) 13:26, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Infovarius: I would like to at least have the root language of Latin represented somewhere on each item, perhaps separately from the translations into other alphabets. - Bossanoven (talk) 16:06, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Root langauge"? What is it? "On each item" - you mean all 50 million items? And why don't you like labels? --Infovarius (talk) 10:18, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Infovarius: Right, I see you mean to use native label (P1705) for the root language. That should work out well. I will change my edits. - Bossanoven (talk) 12:55, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No, this doesn't correct the situation. native label (P1705) is used for creative works, but classes of murders are not creative works. --Infovarius (talk) 14:44, 17 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Infovarius:I don't know what you're talking about. Where do you read the specificity of creative work? - Bossanoven (talk) 17:19, 17 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Strangely I cannot find this constraint. But I don't like its usage anyway. And some other user too as you could see. --Infovarius (talk) 15:43, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't get that statement either ("native label"). "name" could work if you added some reference. In general, I think the (en) label and the description should make sure the concept is correctly defined. If it's a Roman law term, that could be included too. --- Jura 00:05, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Japanese words (and some other language words) do not come from Latin words. thanks. --Afaz (talk) 20:26, 16 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Infovarius:, @Jura1:, @Afaz: - native label (P1705) makes is quite clear in its description that it entails the "label for the items in their original language (P364)". The original language is Latin. How much more clear could it be? - Bossanoven (talk) 01:20, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Currently, nothing in the English label, English description and other statements on Q10345565 suggest that this has anything to do with Romans. If you want to make statements about the word used in the English label, you could create a Lexeme. Maybe, there is also place for separate items about the concepts in Roman law and these could have "native label" statements. See https://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%A1%D0%9A%D0%94/Parricidium --- Jura 09:12, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the link. Bossanoven, "parricide" is not a Latin word! --Infovarius (talk) 20:58, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

When the Pawn

Hi, I removed the full name because it's too long to completely fit in the field, and splitting it up gives the impression that each part is a separate alternate title. Trivialist (talk) 14:44, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Q1754965

Please see the talk page of Chicago metropolitan area (Q1754965) before knee-jerk reverting. Speciate (talk) 19:52, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Bossanoven

block log • ipblocklist • crossblock • luxo's • unblock • remove gblock • contribs: +/-

Request reason:

Blocking admin's claim is unreasonable. My editing pattern did not display a recurring pattern of vandalism.

Decline reason:

Did not address the blocking admin's claim of continuing disruptive edits from another wiki here.--Jasper Deng (talk) 11:02, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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