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Draft:Tomoharu Ushida

Would some others from WP:JAPAN mind taking a look at WP:THQ#Draft:Tomoharu Ushida? At first glance the subject of the draft seems to meet WP:NMUSICIAN so article about him is probably OK, but the article appears to be direct translation of ja:牛田智大 given the creator is also a major contributor the Japanese Wikipedia article and that the some of the phrasing and formatting is similar to the style followed on Japanese Wikipedia. The infobox also seems to have been copied from Japanese Wikipedia. None of these things should impact whether the subject is notable, and the Japanese Wikipedia article does seem to attributed as required in the draft's edit history. All that might be needed here is just some cleaning up to bring things more inline with English Wikipedia's MOS and other relevant policies and guidelines, but perhaps not in a way that might discourage either the creator or the primary contibutor so far in some way. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:51, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Keiji Nishikawa § Date format

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Keiji Nishikawa § Date format. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:39, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

I'd be interested to hearing from the members of WT:JAPAN on this. There's no information about "date format" anywhere on MOS:JAPAN that I can find, but perhaps there should be if the information in Date format by country is correct. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:43, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Date formats

This is sort of related to the "Please see" in the above thread, but in a more general sense. Is there any specific guidance given in MOS:JAPAN or anywhere else on which date format (British English (DMY) or American English (MYD)) should be used in Japan-related articles. Of course, it makes sense to use the DMY format in articles written in British English and the the MDY format in articles written in American English; that seems proper and consistent. Is there, though, one preferred style/format? Japan and Public holidays in Japan, for example, seem to use American English so the MDY format seems acceptable. Japanese calendar, on the other hand, uses both formats which isn't really desireable per WP:DATEUNIFY. Two more examples would be Great Hanshin earthquake and 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami: the former seems to use American English and the latter British English. I'm sure that there are many more examples like this. There are also FA Japan-related articles which use the DMY format and there are FA Japan-related articles which use the MDY format; so, once again, it seems that both are acceptable. Should the format just be decided in accordance with WP:ENGVAR and WP:DATEVAR or is it preferable to use one over the other per MOS:TIES and MOS:DATETIES? According to Date format by country, Japan officially uses neither format which is true in a sense because English isn't an official language of Japan; however, I'm not sure there's no official format means that Wikipedia prefers (or should prefer one) over the other. -- Marchjuly (talk) 15:47, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

People who use different characters for their stage name

For some people, such as Kyousuke Hamao, Reina Tanaka, and Mahoto Watanabe, they use different characters for their professional name. How should we format that with the Template:Nihongo template? Should the characters be removed from the lead altogether and just be included in the infobox using the character module, like how biographies are handled in WP:KOREA? lullabying (talk) 19:51, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Everything that is in the infobox should be in the main body of the article. Same goes for the lead: anything there should be in the main body. In general, the lead should mention all names the person goes by, and each of them should be bolded. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 23:02, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 22 January 2022: Districts of Japan -> Counties of Japan

Districts of Japan → Counties of Japan – According to the MLIT rules for translation of Japanese place names, Gun(郡) should be translated as "county" rather than district. Please participate in the discussion here Talk:Districts of Japan. Shinkansen Fan (talk) 18:12, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Importance scale: Ulala (Space Channel 5)

User:Lord of Fantasy has multiple times now attempted to assert that Ulala (Space Channel 5) falls under "Mid" on the importance scale, despite three users having already assigned it "Low" importance, reverting them each time. User seems to not fully understand how the importance scale works, and seems unwilling to work with others based on previous discussions, so I put it to other members of the project to evaluate the article and assign importance in order to establish clear concensus. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 19:32, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

I undid the last revision/comment on this thread because I clicked on the wrong discussion post. Thank you for bringing the concern to the WikiProject and have practically put the feud to rest. Thank you. --Lord of Fantasy (talk) 21:14, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

I remind you that this should have been something you should have done as the person who was editing against existing concensus, per WP:TALKDONTREVERT; when multiple editors say one thing and you say another, it is on you to convince them, not the other way around. Please keep this in mind next time. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 21:21, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

For this project, that article would definitely be low. For the video game project, it might be mid, but I'd ask there, too. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 21:51, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

That discussion is currently taking place over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video_games#Importance_scale: Ulala (Space Channel 5). -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 22:04, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Oh, okay — I can see where you’re coming from. I only marked her as “mid” on the importance Scale for this project due to her cultural impact in the early 2000s within the country itself. Still, I think this should be further discussed before reassessment is taken. Lord of Fantasy (talk) 21:56, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

For this project (not the video game project), there's no way the article merits anything higher than Low. Absolutely no way. The character had a decent impact within video game circles, but hardly anything outside of that. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 22:13, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Oh, for sure! I guess unless there’s more to say — the reassessment should be low for now! Thanks for your contribution! Lord of Fantasy (talk) 22:18, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Kabashima, Nagasaki

Main page: talk:Kabashima, Nagasaki

There's a problem with Kabashima, Nagasaki, it doesn't seem to match the versions of the articles on Japanese Wikipedia; aside from there being two Kabashima in Nagasaki, making the article name also a problem. See talk:Kabashima, Nagasaki -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 13:30, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Moved to talk:Kabashima, Nagasaki