Building Envelope Commissioning
Building Envelope Commissioning
Building Envelope Commissioning
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NC-v4 EAc1: Enhanced commissioning (/credit/NC-v4/EAc1)
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Hello All,
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Elizabeth Cassin (/users/elizabeth-cassin)
The language used for BECx does make it pretty confusing. To get the 2 points for BECx requires
that requirements in the EA Prerequisite for Fundamental Commissioning and Verification (as they
apply to the building’s thermal envelope) be met, that the requirements of EA Credit for Enhanced
Commissioning - Option 2 Envelope Commissioning be met, and that the commissioning process
be performed in relation to energy, water, indoor environmental quality, and durability in
accordance with NIBS Guideline 3 (Building Enclosure Commissioning Process). NIBS GL 3 is just
that...a guideline, so I go by what LEED notes in the document and the reference guide and then
perform those tasks in accordance with the Guideline. But where it gets confusing is that some of
the tasks stem from Cx and aren't relevant to BECx. So this is my interpretation:
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Lyle Axelarris (/users/lyle-axelarris)
I've also been wondering what people's experience has been with actual LEED reviews of BECx.
My thought is that you should only do the tests that are appropriate for your climate (eg. no spray
rack test in a desert), but sometimes I get nervous about LEED reviewer's ability to make common
sense judgement calls about situations that stray from the standard application.
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Elizabeth Cassin (/users/elizabeth-cassin)
Agree- the intent of testing is not to just do another test but to verify that the installation meets
the OPR. So if the owner doesn't care about water tightness (which could be the case in a desert
climate), then water infiltration testing would not be required. The BECxP should use his/her
professional judgement about what kinds of tests and how many tests should be performed to
verify that the construction meets the performance requirements. He/she must also be able to
weigh in on (with the owner) which performance requirements are beneficial/appropriate, and
which ones might not be, in his/her review of the OPR.
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Ameet AA (/users/ameet-aa)
2. I am working on a LEED V4 BD+C for Data Center, unfortunately Client has appointed a
Commissioning authority who has no capability for additional 2 points BECx and now client wants
Main contractor to appoint another CxA just for BECx. Will this be accepted by USGBC? please
advise.
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Scott Bowman (/users/scott-bowman)
LEED Fellow
It is standard practice for the BECx to be a different company than for the MEP systems. However,
the same rules apply to their qualifications and independence. You give very little detail, but I
would not think anyone working for the contractor would be acceptable or prudent. Why not have
the BECx work as a sub to the CxA currently in place? My old firm did not have envelope skills, but
we were able to team with some great companies over the years.
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Thanks Elizabeth. You noted "Other items not listed by LEED but recommended include mockup
construction and testing review and participation in preinstallation meetings."
This testing can have huge cost implications and the credit information is unclear as to what is
required. NIBS Guideline 3 is a bit jumbled and, while it has a lot of potential information, is
neither clear nor helpful the way it is currently written.
How do we get 'bottom line' input regarding what is required? Based on NIBS G3 it sounds like
either mockup or in-place testing is acceptable. What testing is required? Dynamic and static air
and water infiltration? Thermal continuity? Air barrier continuity? Glazed systems? Opaque
systems? Doors and entrances? The list can go on. The BECx folks I've spoken with often aren't
sure what will or will not comply with the LEED credit. They have a laundry list of items that can be
tested and are willing to do whatever the building owner is willing to pay for.
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Joyce Kelly (/users/joyce-kelly)
It depends on your project's needs whether mock-up or on-site testing takes place. We are
frequently involved in both - testing systems extensively in mockup before accessibility becomes
an issue and mistakes are repeated. As a matter of fact, we witness spray rack tests in the Arizona
desert. Tucson, AZ has monsoons with wind-driven rains as well as Winter rains. Makes for a pretty
lush desert.
Note: v4.1 references ASTM (https://leeduser.buildinggreen.com/glossary#ASTM) E2947-16:
Standard Guide for Building Enclosure Commissioning, rather than NIBS.
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Joyce Kelly (/users/joyce-kelly)
...and ASTM E2947-16 says: "While both levels of BECx require first installation mock-ups as a
minimum requirement, enhanced BECx requires either a preconstruction laboratory mock-up or
on-site free standing building mock-up to be tested."
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Can the same commissioning authority complete both Option 1 (enhanced commissioning) and Option 2 (envelope
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