Vi and Jayce defender for life

"It was so obvious that the Mysterious Mage in season one was Viktor all along".

Was it?

Because that does not look anything like Viktor.

At all.

This was likely intended to be Ryze and got retconned in exchange for... what, fanservice?

Making Viktor the Mysterious Mage feels like it takes away so much of his story. It also just doesn't make sense, because if he could time travel and hop universes, why not talk to himself?

If in every universe we are told this; Jayce gets a rune, hextech is invented, he takes away Viktor's bodily autonomy by forcing Viktor to merge with the hexcore. But the only universe this doesn't happen in is the alternate universe we see where Jayce is presumed dead. So, why give Jayce the rune at all?

The catalyst for Viktor becoming Machine Herald in every timeline is Jayce. Hectech. Runes.

This will never make any sense to me.

i saw that old trend on twt a couple days ago and i couldn’t help it 😭😭 they’re so cute omg i love them

Atsushi learned to bake after chapter 88...

I know Akutagawa is wondering why the commoner is talking to himself and not saving his ass

I think one more reason why that final line pisses me off is how much better Sky's line was: "Everything about you inspires me." Not a word about his disease, because Viktor is more than his disease. That's what he'd always wanted.

This... And I really don't understand WTF Jayce's last lines to Vik even had to do with their relationship. In the slightest. Why did it make sense for Jayce specifically to tell Viktor that?

"Oh, Jayce had an epiphany when he broke his leg, and realized how hard Viktor's life was, and totally understands him better now!"

Let's say sure, that's exactly what they were going for.

But was there ever a moment in the story before Jayce broke his leg where we saw him.. not understanding that Vik's leg made life difficult for him?? Because Viktor's disability and Jayce's feelings about it literally NEVER. ONCE. COME UP. in any of their scenes together.

Their conflict came from 4 things:

1) Hextech weaponry (Jayce pro, Viktor against)

2) the speed of Hextech development (Jayce recommended caution, Viktor didn't have time for caution)

3) Jayce's prejudice against Zaunites and his actions as a councilor

4) Jayce breaking his promise and taking away Viktor's autonomy with the Hexcore

You might notice that Viktor's disability and personal insecurities are not on that list, so I really have to wonder where that stupid monologue even came from.

And only 2 of those 4 conflicts were ever even addressed (poorly, by making Hextech inherently wrong to pursue)

Wasn't gonna drink tonight, but I just saw the deleted scenes of citizens being caught in the gassing and retreating to the firelights base like...

Police gas attacks as an aesthetic was certainly not on my arcane s2 bingo list

that wasn’t a deleted scene it’s in the show 😭

the people being brought to the Firelight base was because they were caught up in the Chembarons street fights, Ekko literally SAYS that, idk why people keep saying it was bc of the gas when it happened before that

Ep 2, 17:10 mins

Now, i did mistakeningly call it a deleted scene, rather its a leaked scene with the point being that the coughing that was cut in the final product.

HOWEVER. You're blatantly lying.

Ekko never says its from the chembarons. In fact, ekko says NOTHING about the fighting.

Scar is the one who says "it's all the fighting" but I'm desperate to know how that excludes the oppressive nation coming down with a cancerous gas?

The closest thing we get to a mention of the chembarons is, again, scar not ekko, saying that now silco is finally gone, a new one is trying to replace him. But this isn't in reference to the people coming to the base, so try again lol

Oh, also... why on earth would they have cut the coughing if it was from the chembarons...? Is common sense not that common anymore?

The Chembarons are engaging in turf wars, fighting over power, as Scar says. We see the turf wars at the beginning of the episode, we see the smoke we see people running from them

why would they be discussing the Chembaron’s if they weren’t relevant to the scene? The fighting is what has caused all the chaos on the streets, that’s shown explicitly in the show

Chembarons are a part of the fighting, obviously, but the term is not exclusive to them? It's also explicity shown that the chembarons aren't just fighting each other, but the strike team as well? (Ep 2, smeech and heenot happening upon beaten and brutalised workers left in the smog. The whole of the ep 3 montage??)

I don't know why the show makes the nonsensical leap to avoid acknowledging the strike team's presence in episode 2, but that's illogical no matter who the coughing came from.

Point is, at no point are the chembarons specifically blamed as the cause for the influx of new refugees like you claimed. I'm also 100% sure that they were never intended to be, hence the coughing that was in the leaked version.

Also, considering you attributed the mention to Ekko and not Scar tells me you definitely haven't actually watched this scene and were just going off of word of mouth (which tbh, it happens 🤷🏾‍♀️) but still. You original argument of it being "confirmed" is null and your point is interpretation at best.

So is mine, but I feel like I can adequately explain why it makes 100x more sense for the writers to cut out people arriving with the most prominent symptom of the grey whilst the grey is being released in buildings and openings in a pattern of accountability avoiding behaviour when it comes to writing caitlyn than you can explain why they'd cut coughing if it was from the chembarons, a group they've literally never pulled punches from showing how terrible they are

Everyone shown in the episode 2 montage were chembarons/people that worked for Silco, all of which appear in the fight against Vi in season 1 episode 3.

Also in the beginning of episode 2 of season 3 we see multiple children being chased by the Chembarons during the turf wars, those very same children are then shown later on taking refuge in the Firelights hideout

I definitely have watched the episode, i do apologise for the slight mix-up between who said what, that was my bad. Regardless Ekko was still in the conversation regarding the Chembaron’s.

Anyway this video explains it more eloquently than i probably can, but i can see that me and you obviously have differing takes on the scene and that’s fine

Yes the opening scene to the montage is Silco goons and various other chembaron workers, but I'm confused as to what this has to do with my point? Whilst I think it's stupid the show isn't more explicit with it, I understand that we don't see civilians in the montage because it's about the people caitlyn and vi are arresting (which is the only time we see people other than the strike team in the MV)

But we see the gas leaking out of various buildings with no blockades onto main streets :

Gas leaking out of margot's place onto main street, s2 ep2. Which, by virtue of Gas being... a gas, means it definitely spread on that street as there was no effort to clear/redirecting the gas back to vault by the strike team

Even when entering an arcade (a place where kids could be expected to reside) no precautions are taken and there's nothing to block the gas from the massive hole in the window.

Isha was also close to this area, travelling around in pipes.

And, of course, we have the children being picked up by the chembarons in the sucker MV as you mentioned. If the strike team is targeting the chembarons, I don't see how the gas magically dodged them?

And lastly, we have homeless people praying to Janna for clear air on the street

All this to say, objectively, innocent strays were targeted by the gas. Why the show works so hard to sugarcoat it, I don't know (I do) but by basic science and the scraps the show gives us, it's pretty obvious.

My point in the original post was that the show was trying to lessen the impact of an obviously horrible action, not if the action was horrible or not

Silco’s fuckass posture was the only thing that survived his reanimation

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I really hope that this changes the way Atsushi see the relationship between Akutagawa and Dazai in the future. Because in the past he had no context as to why Akutagawa was so fixated on getting Dazai’s approval and why he hated Atsushi so much. Because from his perspective before Akutagawa was some guy that Dazai knew in the mafia who was weirdly fixated on him.

But now he can actually see the similarities in how in their past and in how they were treated. I mean who else would understand Akutagawa hating his abuser, but also desperately needing their approval to keep on going more than Atsushi.

That isn’t to say that I want Atsushi to do a complete 180 and start to hate Dazai now, but I would like him to start to be more mindful of how Akutagawa feels. Tho to be fair I think if Atsushi finds out that Dazai was somewhat responsible for Akutagawa sacrificing himself on the boat, I would like him to have a strong reaction to that. Since as much as I like Dazai as a character, he’s been getting away with treating Akutagawa poorly for too long.

i’m so normal about this…god. atsushi’s dejected expression while seeing the full extent of his rival-turned-partner’s abuse for the first time…atsushi finding out it was dazai who treated him like that, the same dazai he looks up to and admires for bringing him into the ADA. we’re witnessing atsushi make leaps and bounds in his understanding of why akutagawa is the way he is, in real time

ARCANE | Cagefighter Vi Modeling | Edouard Cellura

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I'm tired of the limited and often subpar lesbian representation non lesbians expect us to settle with or even lap up.

Please can we have representation where the lesbians actually LIKE each other? I'm not talking sexual chemistry, lust, or even love. Can we please also make them fundamentally understand and like one another?

Didn't love watching a toxic and abusive oppressor x oppressed large power disparity lesbian relationship be endgame on screen. If it were presented as a tragedy, maybe it would be more digestible for me. But from Arcane context clues and interviews, the writers clearly wanted people to root for CaitVi. And so many non lesbians are getting defensive about the lesbians who refuse to eat this up!

I especially hated watching Vi, the masc presenting lesbian older sister that I loved and resonated with so much in season 1 repeatedly be beat or taken advantage of by characters around her and her own girlfriend: a girlfriend who showed no tangible signs of progress or even reflection by the end.

Didn't love seeing the treatment of the masc lesbian downgrade from a main character in season 1 to a plot device, occasional eye candy, or a supplement to other characters' arcs due to lack of writers' personal interest in her. (This attention shift was confirmed by recent creator's comments btw). Her season 2 writing was not trauma informed, lesbian community history informed, nor did it consistently make sense with the values and background the writers assigned to her in season one.

The writers were clearly trying to present that ending as bittersweet or hopeful. But it was hard watching a traumatized masc crawl back to an ultra rich, privileged, and recently fascist criminal girlfriend who never apologized, fundamentally does not understand who Vi is, and who took advantage of her loyalty... And then they had Vi call herself the dirt under Cait's fingernails at the ending. I know all the interpretations of that line and I don't care. Impact over intention. That line had negative connotations that rubbed many people the wrong way given their dynamic's power imbalance and Cait's arc.

Cait got her bittersweet ending and got Vi without having to earn it. But Vi was written to receive more suffering and trauma up until the end, and her "bittersweet ending" is being severed from her community with no family left, stuck uhauling in a blimp with the only person left in her life: a rich toxic girlfriend who only ever liked the idea of her?

It was not bittersweet knowing that Vi would continue to be microaggressed, misunderstood, or even abused by Cait and it was frustrating that it was framed as a happy ending for CaitVi. Frankly, Cait has been and would likely continue to be the main person benefitting from the relationship given the dynamic's unaddressed power imbalance.

Everything that happened to Vi in season 2 felt less like intentional, well written tragedy and more like suffering for the sake of having her suffer because writers didn't know what to do with her. Even their attempt at a bittersweet CaitVi ending was further suffering for Vi.

Vi please, while the mongoose isn't looking and is unarmed, RUN!!!

they keep adopting strays it’s become a problem