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@guardiandua91

Random ramblings

Introduction formally ;) Kinda

Okay, so this is going to be my official introduction post. Hi guys, please call me Dua as itโ€™s my online alias. Whilst I read and watch many different shows and books, my posts will centre around 2 main fandoms, sometimes 3 as well, so I will post information about all 3 and mention my side gigs as well <3

Digimon (Adventure, Zero Two, Frontier, Savers, Xros Wars & Appmon):

Digimon Adventure will be the focus of most of my posts because Zero Two is the season I am most passionate about. The other seasons may make it in there as I rewatch and find something interesting about them to post.

Pairings I like in 01/02: Tai/Mimi, Matt/Sora, Davis/Kari & Ken/Yolei.

Pairings I dislike: Any incest or gay pairings. You can talk to me about Taiora and Takari as long as itโ€™s with respect but no gay please. Itโ€™s gross.

As for other seasons, I like Koji/Zoe. Tagiru/Nene is my crack pairing right now. Appmon I like the idea of Rei/Ai but Iโ€™d have to rewatch again.

Voltron Legendary Defender:

Again, no gay. I tend to AU Shiroโ€™s character as Iโ€™ve become comfortable with it (need to become comfortable AUing Appmon characters too lol). Sheith and Shidge are the banes of my existence but I donโ€™t like gay shippings in general. I also donโ€™t like Lotura. Itโ€™s a very weird, toxic ship to me in any version but VLD, itโ€™s just weirder somehow than rapist-Lotor lol. That said, I would love to discuss the general show. I ship Kallura so if youโ€™re a fan, letโ€™s gush over our OTP together. Iโ€™m right now torn between Plance and Hidge (which I discovered by accident), so those might be fun to discuss. Hunk/Shay is also adorable. I am an Allura defender so if youโ€™re a racist, stay away.ย 

Avatar: The Last Airbender:

I like Zutara. If you ship Kataang and are super pro-Aang my blog is not for you. I am also a Katara defender and will defend her to the end of time. No really, despite the dramatics I will.ย 

Other fandoms: Charmed, Harry Potter, Cyberchase, Pokemon at some point, H20: Just Add Water.

DONโ€™T LIKE, DONโ€™T INTERACT.

Itโ€™s surprising I have to spell this out for adults but if you donโ€™t like me being a homophobe or it hurts your feelings Iโ€™m not an ally, donโ€™t interact with my blogs. You can block me as easily as I can block you. I write, interact and read in my fandom for my faith. I am a Muslim girl so if you want to come onto my blog to simply cause drama, I do not have the time nor the energy. I work full time and fandom is just fun for me and a way to spiritually connect to God and spread his word. Heโ€™s given me a purpose, a reason to spread hope and keep going.

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Also the first 5 for the salty asks lol

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To answer your first ask, if I wasn't convinced to watch NOTR before, I certainly am now!

As for the Salty Ask List...

1. What OTPs in your fandom(s) do you just not get?

Kenyako and whatever you call Optimus Prime x Megatron (specifically their G1 versions). For the former, I just really don't care for it all that much. For the latter, enemies to lovers just isn't my cup of tea.

2. Are there any popular fandom OTPs you only BroTP?

Taiora. I'm not too fond of it romantically (see 5), but I really like it platonically.

Takuma x Minoru. I don't mind it romantically, I just prefer them to be best friends lol.

Optimus Prime x Bumblebee. I just like Optimus Prime being more of a dad to Bumblebee more lmao.

3. Have you ever unfollowed someone over a fandom opinion?

Someone was still mad at Daisuke for the horrible sin of, oh god forbid, having a crush on Hikari! The nerve of him for trying to break up the pure and sacred bond of Takari!!! *sarcasm intensifies*

4. Do you have a NoTP in your fandom? Are they a popular OTP?

Takuya x Izumi. It's just not for me.

5. Has fandom ever ruined a pairing for you?

(Sorry this one got really rambly I just got frustrated for a minute lmao)

Takari, and to a lesser extent, Taiora. The shippers are just so obnoxious about their ship not becoming canon.

Maybe it's just my aromantic ass, or maybe it's just me not taking shipping seriously in general, but I really just don't get why people get all angry over ships not becoming canon. I especially don't get it in a show like Digimon Adventure where actual romance takes up a very small amount of the actual story.

Oh, and remember when Taiora shippers tried to retcon the epilogue (and in some cases even 02 as a whole) just so their ship would become canon? Yeah, that was a thing that happened.

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Try all the gay ships in a show that made everyone straight. Or incest. This fandom is frustrating lol

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Hey lovely. So I really wanted to be nice about this. I really did. But I don't appreciate the lies being told to my friend Blade regarding you tagging me in Digimon posts. You barely do and you don't even really know the show so please do not spread false information. I understand. You might be lonely and both blade and I wish we could help but I hope God can ease your heart and help you find true companionship within. You don't have to pretend to like Digimon to impress me. I only come on Tumblr to interact in fandom and share my thoughts. I don't really have a desire to socialise. At least not as much as you wish to.

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Hi sorry if I misconstrued anything, it won't happen again I promise. It's true I barely do because I rarely find good posts of Digimon that are not you know... Anyway please excuse my errors hopefully I can rectify and do better in the future.

@guardiandua91 Thank you for being honest and straightforward with me I need it

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I mean if you genuinely like Digimon and Voltron, it's ok. But it's ok if you don't. ๐Ÿ’– It's no big deal. We can be friends without it

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X-Men: Evolution OC for @guardiandua91!

Meet Faris Wolf, an Indonesian-Cherokee member of the X-Men!

Faris' family originally hailed from Georgia, where he spent much time out in the woods learning to hunt and survive in the wild. Unlike his numerous younger siblings and older sister, he was born with amber eyes, which were sensitive to the light and thus necessitated special sunglasses for Faris to wear outdoors. Inside tended to be fine for him, but he kept them close to hand for when it either got unbearable or he had to make a quick run outdoors.

Eventually, his father landed a better job in construction in New York, practically right in Bayville. Packing up their things, they left, and Faris comforted his kid brothers and sisters about the new life they were going to have up north. Although he would miss Georgia, Faris was rather eager to move, as he'd been feeling a bit constrained in their old home recently.

Once they'd reached Bayville and began moving in, Faris took to "prowling about town", as the family lovingly called it. He couldn't help it: it was new, there was lots to see, and it kept him close to his natural huntsman roots. In short order, Faris learned the ins and outs of the town, memorized the streets, and even hung around Bayville High and became acquainted with the students.

The first he met was Jean Grey, who boarded at the Xavier Institute for Gifted Youngsters.

They bonded pretty fast, and her sportsmanship meshed nicely with his outdoorsman nature. Soon, Faris enrolled at the school, and quickly ended up on the football team - though, to his confusion, quarterback Duncan Matthews was aggressive. An aggression that slowly started to become reciprocated when he saw the man's attitude toward Jean...

But Faris is nothing if not restrained and relaxed, and knowing that Jean could take care of herself, he let it slide.

But he couldn't get over the other man's behavior. And then, things started happening to Faris.

He began dreaming of hunting at night, seemingly on all fours. He'd start awake in the early morning, in a cold sweat and feeling his mouth dry. His muscles seemed to feel stretched and strained, as if he'd run a marathon when he was only practicing for the football matches or otherwise playing around outside. His body and limbs felt too big and too small at the same time, and his nails itched while his skin tickled from some unseen fur brushing against it.

And his eyes began to react to everything. One moment, he couldn't stand the brightness of a stray beam of light, and then the next, he didn't flinch at being out in the sun without his shades.

Faris needed to clear his head, and the only way he knew how to do that was to do what always calmed him down:

A late night hunt.

After getting permission and receiving his new state permit, Faris grabbed his gear, loaded his rifle, and set out in the woods a few miles out from Bayville. With a full moon shining above him and cool winds pushing against him, it was a ripe time for a kill.

And deep within him, something stirred.

Faris moved like the wind, tracking an eight point deer and preparing to fire. But then, something in him made him lower the rifle silently. He crept forward on hands and knees, the prosthetic limb snapping off as his clothes ripped, causing the deer to bolt. With a bellowing roar, Faris burst after the deer, fur replacing skin, hands and feet traded out for paws, a tail snapping out behind him, and claws extending to deliver the finishing blow before sharp canines sank into its neck, cutting off the deer's bleat as instinct took over.

Jean awoke at that moment, hearing thoughts reminiscent of Faris' before amber, feline eyes - so much like Faris', yet so animalistic - flashed through her mind.

She went to consult the Professor, only to find Wolverine there, already clothed and looking antsy. When she asked what was going on, she learned that Logan had just returned from some late night business when he'd heard a tiger's roar. There were no zoos in Bayville, nor were exotic pets allowed. Which could only mean one thing:

Bayville had a new mutant in town - one who didn't know how to control his or her powers.

Awwwww I love him, so cool, thank you!

The relationship between Takeru and Hikari

As a kid, like everyone else, I thought Takari had to be together. They're always hanging out and even in 02, they break away from the others to investigate things. We often see them hanging out in Kizuna, Tri and even the Beginning. I would define their relationship as good friends who have a good relationship - often people go so far as to call them best friends, but how emotionally connected to one another are they?

Does Hikari know what happened with Devimon? Does Takeru truly understand Hikari's point of view? We never see Hikari comforting Takeru about his issues regarding the powers of darkness nor do we see Takeru understand Hikari's dependency on Taichi. Does this make them less of friends? No, of course not but their relationship is not as honey and roses as people make it out to be. They're very good friends, they have a lot in common in their interests and they're long time friends when things are good.

When things go south though, their opinions are very opposite to one another. Be it the decision to save Andromon or defeat him, whether to fight Lui or not (greater good vs the bonds with their partners), they were in opposite directions. Hikari does try to reason with Takeru - I'll give her that but that whole scene makes me think Ken and Takeru become closer friends as they get older which is nice. Its nice but I'm getting sidetracked. The relationship between Takeru and Hikari is one of good friends but I feel not best friends. Hikari can't completely open up to Takeru - her best friend is Miyako. Takeru, at this point I don't know who his best friend is but I do like his blossoming friendship with Ken.

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Why I Dislike Digimon Tamers

Okay, so I was discussing this with an acquaintance who was struggling to understand why I dislike Digimon Tamers so I'll put it here. Digimon Tamers went out of its way to be graphic about things that didn't need to be done graphically.

Example 1: Jeri becomes suicidal during the whole D-Reaper arc.

The reasons are different - but we've seen suicidal characters before. I will use Ken as an example instead of Yamato because that's a whole other can of worms. Ken wanted to die to stop the reactor - he didn't care about his own life - we didn't need to see a physical manifestation of him trying to strangle himself, we were shown it in other ways. Jeri trying to strangle herself was way too overkill and unnecessary.

Example 2: Normalising killing digimon

To me, a good show needs to have a difference between the hero and the villain. This show really didn't. Like Digimon Kaiser didn't mind killing digimon who got in the way of Chimeramon and he destroyed thousands of homes. Wormmon died because of him too. But he was a villain at that point in time. In Digimon Tamers, even characters like Guilmon absorb the data of the digimon they defeat to gain more power so then what makes Beelzemon evil if he does the same to Leomon? Why are Takato and Guilmon considered the heroes and Beelzemon is considered the villain.

Example 3: Toxic parents

Toxic parents is another way that Tamers tried to be dark but we've already seen that with Ken and Sam. And with Ken, it was even worse than Jeri because Jeri only had an abusive father. Ken had an abusive father, mother and older brother. Like Jeri, Ken blamed himself for Sam's death believing it was his fault and while Jeri became miss damsel in distress, Ken turned into the villain - cause villains are made, not born.

All in all, the reason I dislike Digimon Tamers is it did not do anything that Adventure 02 hadn't done already. People call Adventure 02 the lighthearted season but I would say its darker than Digimon Tamers without trying too hard.

You can refer my account, Dua. Digimon is always the topic for many discussions, and to easy to keep track, I will quote what she wrote in her post. What was quote will be like this:

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Alright, let's start.

who was struggling to understand why I dislike Digimon Tamers

I must correct. If you dislike, you dislike. The number of reasons really don't affect it. I will just consider and analyze Dua's reasons.

Digimon Tamers went out of its way to be graphic about things that didn't need to be done graphically.

Technially, Tamers and the infamous episode 13 of Digimon Adventure 02 are both having the same writing style by Konaka. To provide context, he is one of the extremists with doubtful thinking and many problems after 2000s. I suppose many know about his infamous Tamers reading relative to political and paranoid, you can find sources on the Internet.

Even though you can consider Tamers as his least personal-affected products, you can still see Konaka's specific writing, which leads to a quite dark tone in the show (almost all Tamer dubs fan don't really realize how graphic tone it is thanks to the American dub jokes.)

As a heavy sci-fi, personal-express show, I think the level of graphic is suitable for this season. If it was for any others season, I will protest, but it's just go with Tamers' theme.

Example 1: Jeri becomes suicidal during the whole D-Reaper arc. The reasons are different - but we've seen suicidal characters before. I will use Ken as an example instead of Yamato because that's a whole other can of worms. Ken wanted to die to stop the reactor - he didn't care about his own life - we didn't need to see a physical manifestation of him trying to strangle himself, we were shown it in other ways. Jeri trying to strangle herself was way too overkill and unnecessary.

It's a bit difficult to keep track because she used both sub and dub names. Tamers was different from Adventure:

  • Adventure focus on self-realize what can be improve, then improve it, while still being harmonic within a big group.
  • 02 focus on how being social and having help from close-knit friends can help you complete yourself.
  • Tamers focus on how someone go so against hero tropes (Takato with his childish, innocent, soft, a bit selfish, Jianliang with his pacifist thinking, Ruki with her antisocial, rude tone) can still become such ones with some support from each other and their partners. Their character development arcs are also much more personal and long: they are almost separate and difficult to notice.

But you can see how the difference it is, Tamers doesn't have the same character deployment.

So what is this relevant to the above reason?

There's only one thing not good about the way Adventure write characters: almost all children at that age won't be that altruistic.

Tamers can be claimed as Adventure's thought experience: it gives out many "if" of Adventure. What if?

  • the children and Digimon all don't have their personality match?
  • the children has less choice on acting morally and pacifically?
  • the enemy wasn't Digimon but a program?
  • the family don't want their child to go save the world and also cry?

And so on.

Let's go back to the topic. Actually, much more people are suicidal by a very selfish reason. Not all will sacrifice themselves to redempt. Juri is an example to how people in real life have suicidal thinking.

Sometimes, people are so stubborn that only graphic description can help them realize that is not good, and you must go forward. At the same time, Juri's personality is not like Ken so much that it will feel weird if you write the suicidal situation diffrently.

Example 2: Normalising killing digimon To me, a good show needs to have a difference between the hero and the villain. This show really didn't. Like Digimon Kaiser didn't mind killing digimon who got in the way of Chimeramon and he destroyed thousands of homes. Wormmon died because of him too. But he was a villain at that point in time. In Digimon Tamers, even characters like Guilmon absorb the data of the digimon they defeat to gain more power so then what makes Beelzemon evil if he does the same to Leomon? Why are Takato and Guilmon considered the heroes and Beelzemon is considered the villain.

Killing in Adventure is about survival, and in 02 is to reduce the damage and injury to the world. I don't see much difference in Tamers. Beside Ruki who intentionally hunt Digimon (and only for the early part of the show) and Ryo (because Cyberdramon basically have ZeedMilleniumon inside him), it's not like they absorb all Digimon: In the end, the trio and their Digimon compromise by loading Digimon who challenge them and are obviously carrying murderous intent themselves.

And I don't think force a Digimon to restart from their baby state with their memories and mental injury is much better than just absorb their data...

The main problem with Beelzumon's action is that Leomon completely doesn't challenge or cause harm to him or anyone, not like wild Digimon. Beelzebumon selfishly cared only about his own strengthย knowingย that this would traumatize Juri and all of the other Tamers who had seen him as their friends, so that is considered as villain. And that particular episode absolutely doesn't state that Takato and Guilmon's actions as heroic.

Just because the line between hero and villain in Tamer is thinner doesn't cause in the lack of it.

Example 3: Toxic parents Toxic parents is another way that Tamers tried to be dark but we've already seen that with Ken and Sam. And with Ken, it was even worse than Jeri because Jeri only had an abusive father. Ken had an abusive father, mother and older brother. Like Jeri, Ken blamed himself for Sam's death believing it was his fault and while Jeri became miss damsel in distress, Ken turned into the villain - cause villains are made, not born.

Reuse meaningful and impactful situations doesn't mean trying to be dark, right? I don't see anything show that Tamers is trying to be darker than Adventure, as producers of Tamers actually really respect how deep in writing Adventure is.

About why Juri become miss damsel in distress, and Ken turned into the antagonist, it's because... the Kaiser is in the early part of 02. With D-Reaper as an enemy, Juri as a villain will feel like a boring pull for interest. You don't need the bad situations turn you into villain to be acceptably dark.

it did not do anything that Adventure 02 hadn't done already.

Like I have presented, Tamers don't need to do something that Adventure and 02 hadn't done. It's just its own season, and that's enough. And besides, Tamers had answered many "if" that fandom may have, and it does tell a meaningiful message about how everyone can be their own heroes in their stories. It's certainly not the best season, but I think these are suitable reasoning.

Say so, you always have right to not like Tamers. I just state suitable responding to the points you raise.

(Adventure and 02 are certainly not lighthearted season, I prefer the term "having positive messages". And if honest, even how cringe or weird it is, I don't assume we can compare darkness between seasons.)

With the presentation, I hope for your counterargument! Goodbye, and have fun!

I didn't want to out your account if you were not comfortable, haha. I would feel bad. I would like to reiterate, I don't mind Tamers being dark - dark is good but I feel it tries too hard to be dark. Jeri trying to strangle herself was not needed to tell us she was suicidal.

The line between the hero and villain is too thin. I mean, I see your point, the digimon Guilmon loaded were bad - but in real life, is it ok to kill a thief? Is it ok to kill someone who is rampaging when you're supposed to only stop them? Impmon's intentions may have been power but this show still normalises killing. Rika tried to do the same thing to Guilmon and the narrative treated it as slightly wrong but not that big of a deal where as when Thomas's actions get Agumon killed, its treated as a big deal. For me, heroes and villains should be different - people always say villains are made, not born but I feel the same can be said for heroes. Devimon killed Angemon but T.K. never swore revenge and he understood even if it traumatised him. In 01 and 02, the line between the hero and villains are clear. The DigiDestined kill only when there is no other choice - because if they don't, they will die.

But why is Jeri's backstory considered darker than Ken's? Ken had it way worse...its just because we didn't graphically see Ken trying to shoot himself or hang himself, we were shown his mental condition. Tamers to me brought nothing new - it just tried too hard. Adventure 02 had so many interesting parts but its treated as the lighthearted season when BlackWargreymon almost killed the 02 chosen.

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So I already stated this before, but Iโ€™m gonna go ahead and say it again. Go ahead and be whoever or whatever you want to be, as long as youโ€™re not an ass about it.

Vegan: I am a vegan now

Me: Cool. Congrats.

Vegan: People who arenโ€™t vegans are the cause of all the worldโ€™s problems.

Me: Look who just lost my support!

โ€“ Trans Person: I am Trans

Me: Awesome!

Trans Person: Cis people should be ashamed for being cis.

Me: Bye.

โ€“

Feminist: I am a feminist

Me: good for you.ย 

Feminist: Kill all men! lol Male tears.

Me: You wanna hang some flyers, because you just lost my support.

Basically, I donโ€™t care what you are, as long as you donโ€™t try to hurt others (mentally or physically) to make yourself feel better. If putting down others is a part of the new you, then I donโ€™t want any part of it.

this post is bad i just havenโ€™t figured out how to word it

Itโ€™s โ€œbadโ€ because it holds groups you like responsible for their actions instead of letting them get away with bad, and sometimes oppressive behavior using their label as a shield against criticism.

You do not get a pass on bigotry and hate because youโ€™ve labelled yourself a victim.

There is no label you can apply that makes you immune to being a bully. Add to the fact, those who claim to have no power be exercising a lot of power as of late and people, regular people are sick and tired of the bullshit. Sick and tired of the attitudes. Sick and tired of the double standards. Sick and tired of being held hostage to some Jack dipshit trying to play the worst game of โ€œwhoโ€™s the narcissist between us?โ€ And expecting if not demanding people kowtow because โ€œIโ€™m black, Iโ€™m gay, Iโ€™m trans, Iโ€™m a womanโ€ youโ€™re a human being and thatโ€™s all. The rest is just noise.

Live your life and live it well. Youโ€™ll reap what you sew.

This post is bad - yeah its good to be what you want and not be a prick but its also important to stand up to wrong. The world was created the way it was for a reason - being a vegan or feminist isnโ€™t hurting anyone but using it the wrong way can. In Islam, it is about woman empowerment but its also about men protecting their wives, mothers and daughters. However, certain things are also forbidden such as denying things that were created - there are only two genders. Men and women were made to be each otherโ€™s soulmate/life partner. Standing up to that is not wrong.

โ€œFeminism isnt hurting anyoneโ€

I meanโ€ฆI have quite a bit of info that counters that statement.

You can use anything โ€œthe wrong wayโ€, but note that โ€œthe wrong wayโ€ is up to interpretation. The majority in that group could believe their harmful behavior is โ€œthe right wayโ€. Entire governments believe this. Entire religions believe this.

Feminism is not exempt. Trans asctivists re not exempt. Vegan activists are not exempt. Even religions lile Islam are not exempt.

You see the post as bad because it criticizes some of the bad in groups you like. But they deserve criticism. All groups deserve criticism for the bad. It helps improve them and makes them something worth supporting.

There are always other alternatives that can dwarf them in popularity if they continue doing bad things and turning people away.

Trans does not exist so it is bad. It's just a delusion

So I already stated this before, but Iโ€™m gonna go ahead and say it again. Go ahead and be whoever or whatever you want to be, as long as youโ€™re not an ass about it.

Vegan: I am a vegan now

Me: Cool. Congrats.

Vegan: People who arenโ€™t vegans are the cause of all the worldโ€™s problems.

Me: Look who just lost my support!

โ€“ Trans Person: I am Trans

Me: Awesome!

Trans Person: Cis people should be ashamed for being cis.

Me: Bye.

โ€“

Feminist: I am a feminist

Me: good for you.ย 

Feminist: Kill all men! lol Male tears.

Me: You wanna hang some flyers, because you just lost my support.

Basically, I donโ€™t care what you are, as long as you donโ€™t try to hurt others (mentally or physically) to make yourself feel better. If putting down others is a part of the new you, then I donโ€™t want any part of it.

this post is bad i just havenโ€™t figured out how to word it

Itโ€™s โ€œbadโ€ because it holds groups you like responsible for their actions instead of letting them get away with bad, and sometimes oppressive behavior using their label as a shield against criticism.

You do not get a pass on bigotry and hate because youโ€™ve labelled yourself a victim.

There is no label you can apply that makes you immune to being a bully. Add to the fact, those who claim to have no power be exercising a lot of power as of late and people, regular people are sick and tired of the bullshit. Sick and tired of the attitudes. Sick and tired of the double standards. Sick and tired of being held hostage to some Jack dipshit trying to play the worst game of โ€œwhoโ€™s the narcissist between us?โ€ And expecting if not demanding people kowtow because โ€œIโ€™m black, Iโ€™m gay, Iโ€™m trans, Iโ€™m a womanโ€ youโ€™re a human being and thatโ€™s all. The rest is just noise.

Live your life and live it well. Youโ€™ll reap what you sew.

This post is bad - yeah its good to be what you want and not be a prick but its also important to stand up to wrong. The world was created the way it was for a reason - being a vegan or feminist isn't hurting anyone but using it the wrong way can. In Islam, it is about woman empowerment but its also about men protecting their wives, mothers and daughters. However, certain things are also forbidden such as denying things that were created - there are only two genders. Men and women were made to be each other's soulmate/life partner. Standing up to that is not wrong.

Digimon Adventure Episode 40 review

There was not enough to compare for a dub vs sub as they were pretty faithful to one another so Iโ€™m just going to do a generic review of this episode. I really liked the introduction to the Dark Masters and Piedmon will always terrify me.

The others are still scary but itโ€™s that smile that Piedmon has that sends chills down my spine. Freaks me out like crazy. And this is only his introduction so he gets way worse. Chuumon and Piximonโ€™s sacrifices were noble onesโ€ฆwhile I didnโ€™t cry with Chuumon, I did feel sad for Piximon a little. However, they felt meaningful, especially Piximon because he had trained them and more so because it gives it a war-like vibe.

Not to compare as I donโ€™t like them but Voltron: Legendary Defender is an amazing show but until the Earth invasion in s7, we donโ€™t really see much death outside of Ulaz. Digimon however doesnโ€™t shield us from it. Angemon dies within the first 13 episodes and so many Digimon will die in the Dark Masters arc which gives it a very war like feeling.ย 

I really love how gentle the DigiDestined are with their Digimon. It makes season 2 hit all the more harder when Ken isnโ€™t so nice to themโ€ฆat first.

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Why I Dislike Digimon Tamers

Okay, so I was discussing this with an acquaintance who was struggling to understand why I dislike Digimon Tamers so I'll put it here. Digimon Tamers went out of its way to be graphic about things that didn't need to be done graphically.

Example 1: Jeri becomes suicidal during the whole D-Reaper arc.

The reasons are different - but we've seen suicidal characters before. I will use Ken as an example instead of Yamato because that's a whole other can of worms. Ken wanted to die to stop the reactor - he didn't care about his own life - we didn't need to see a physical manifestation of him trying to strangle himself, we were shown it in other ways. Jeri trying to strangle herself was way too overkill and unnecessary.

Example 2: Normalising killing digimon

To me, a good show needs to have a difference between the hero and the villain. This show really didn't. Like Digimon Kaiser didn't mind killing digimon who got in the way of Chimeramon and he destroyed thousands of homes. Wormmon died because of him too. But he was a villain at that point in time. In Digimon Tamers, even characters like Guilmon absorb the data of the digimon they defeat to gain more power so then what makes Beelzemon evil if he does the same to Leomon? Why are Takato and Guilmon considered the heroes and Beelzemon is considered the villain.

Example 3: Toxic parents

Toxic parents is another way that Tamers tried to be dark but we've already seen that with Ken and Sam. And with Ken, it was even worse than Jeri because Jeri only had an abusive father. Ken had an abusive father, mother and older brother. Like Jeri, Ken blamed himself for Sam's death believing it was his fault and while Jeri became miss damsel in distress, Ken turned into the villain - cause villains are made, not born.

All in all, the reason I dislike Digimon Tamers is it did not do anything that Adventure 02 hadn't done already. People call Adventure 02 the lighthearted season but I would say its darker than Digimon Tamers without trying too hard.

I so feel you on the death.

I can name at least two shows I've seen where they've killed a character to "prove they're serious" when all it does is show how immature the team is by wanting to be viewed as one of the big boys.

Yeah like I'm not against showing death mind you and I love dark things. When I feel it's not trying to be dark. I feel sometimes certain shows try too hard.

Honestly Prime tried too hard to be dark.

Like brutally murdering and zombie-flying Cliffjumper in the premiere was crazy. Dude never did anything wrong in TFP, and while he was a bit of a bloodthirsty barbarian in G1, he knew when to fess up to his mistakes and could laugh about it.

Heck, TFP spent so much screentime just being dark and knitting gritty. We had lighthearted moments here and there, but it started fading away by S2.

Now that I think about it, I wonder if that's why Arcee, Ratchet, and a few other characters/moments were so mean to Smokescreen. He was a ray of sunshine in the show, yet he was basically punished by the writers for either 1 being naive yet competent, or 2 not grasping the dos and don'ts of the show when literally everyone failed to tell him said dos and don'ts.

I won't be surprised if that was the reason. Digimon Tamers makes Henry narratively wrong for being a pacifist when Digimon has always been violence to protect or defend.

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Why I Dislike Digimon Tamers

Okay, so I was discussing this with an acquaintance who was struggling to understand why I dislike Digimon Tamers so I'll put it here. Digimon Tamers went out of its way to be graphic about things that didn't need to be done graphically.

Example 1: Jeri becomes suicidal during the whole D-Reaper arc.

The reasons are different - but we've seen suicidal characters before. I will use Ken as an example instead of Yamato because that's a whole other can of worms. Ken wanted to die to stop the reactor - he didn't care about his own life - we didn't need to see a physical manifestation of him trying to strangle himself, we were shown it in other ways. Jeri trying to strangle herself was way too overkill and unnecessary.

Example 2: Normalising killing digimon

To me, a good show needs to have a difference between the hero and the villain. This show really didn't. Like Digimon Kaiser didn't mind killing digimon who got in the way of Chimeramon and he destroyed thousands of homes. Wormmon died because of him too. But he was a villain at that point in time. In Digimon Tamers, even characters like Guilmon absorb the data of the digimon they defeat to gain more power so then what makes Beelzemon evil if he does the same to Leomon? Why are Takato and Guilmon considered the heroes and Beelzemon is considered the villain.

Example 3: Toxic parents

Toxic parents is another way that Tamers tried to be dark but we've already seen that with Ken and Sam. And with Ken, it was even worse than Jeri because Jeri only had an abusive father. Ken had an abusive father, mother and older brother. Like Jeri, Ken blamed himself for Sam's death believing it was his fault and while Jeri became miss damsel in distress, Ken turned into the villain - cause villains are made, not born.

All in all, the reason I dislike Digimon Tamers is it did not do anything that Adventure 02 hadn't done already. People call Adventure 02 the lighthearted season but I would say its darker than Digimon Tamers without trying too hard.

I so feel you on the death.

I can name at least two shows I've seen where they've killed a character to "prove they're serious" when all it does is show how immature the team is by wanting to be viewed as one of the big boys.

Thank you @blade-liger-4ever and everyone who got me to 5 reblogs!

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Why I Dislike Digimon Tamers

Okay, so I was discussing this with an acquaintance who was struggling to understand why I dislike Digimon Tamers so I'll put it here. Digimon Tamers went out of its way to be graphic about things that didn't need to be done graphically.

Example 1: Jeri becomes suicidal during the whole D-Reaper arc.

The reasons are different - but we've seen suicidal characters before. I will use Ken as an example instead of Yamato because that's a whole other can of worms. Ken wanted to die to stop the reactor - he didn't care about his own life - we didn't need to see a physical manifestation of him trying to strangle himself, we were shown it in other ways. Jeri trying to strangle herself was way too overkill and unnecessary.

Example 2: Normalising killing digimon

To me, a good show needs to have a difference between the hero and the villain. This show really didn't. Like Digimon Kaiser didn't mind killing digimon who got in the way of Chimeramon and he destroyed thousands of homes. Wormmon died because of him too. But he was a villain at that point in time. In Digimon Tamers, even characters like Guilmon absorb the data of the digimon they defeat to gain more power so then what makes Beelzemon evil if he does the same to Leomon? Why are Takato and Guilmon considered the heroes and Beelzemon is considered the villain.

Example 3: Toxic parents

Toxic parents is another way that Tamers tried to be dark but we've already seen that with Ken and Sam. And with Ken, it was even worse than Jeri because Jeri only had an abusive father. Ken had an abusive father, mother and older brother. Like Jeri, Ken blamed himself for Sam's death believing it was his fault and while Jeri became miss damsel in distress, Ken turned into the villain - cause villains are made, not born.

All in all, the reason I dislike Digimon Tamers is it did not do anything that Adventure 02 hadn't done already. People call Adventure 02 the lighthearted season but I would say its darker than Digimon Tamers without trying too hard.

I so feel you on the death.

I can name at least two shows I've seen where they've killed a character to "prove they're serious" when all it does is show how immature the team is by wanting to be viewed as one of the big boys.

Yeah like I'm not against showing death mind you and I love dark things. When I feel it's not trying to be dark. I feel sometimes certain shows try too hard.

Why I Dislike Digimon Tamers

Okay, so I was discussing this with an acquaintance who was struggling to understand why I dislike Digimon Tamers so I'll put it here. Digimon Tamers went out of its way to be graphic about things that didn't need to be done graphically.

Example 1: Jeri becomes suicidal during the whole D-Reaper arc.

The reasons are different - but we've seen suicidal characters before. I will use Ken as an example instead of Yamato because that's a whole other can of worms. Ken wanted to die to stop the reactor - he didn't care about his own life - we didn't need to see a physical manifestation of him trying to strangle himself, we were shown it in other ways. Jeri trying to strangle herself was way too overkill and unnecessary.

Example 2: Normalising killing digimon

To me, a good show needs to have a difference between the hero and the villain. This show really didn't. Like Digimon Kaiser didn't mind killing digimon who got in the way of Chimeramon and he destroyed thousands of homes. Wormmon died because of him too. But he was a villain at that point in time. In Digimon Tamers, even characters like Guilmon absorb the data of the digimon they defeat to gain more power so then what makes Beelzemon evil if he does the same to Leomon? Why are Takato and Guilmon considered the heroes and Beelzemon is considered the villain.

Example 3: Toxic parents

Toxic parents is another way that Tamers tried to be dark but we've already seen that with Ken and Sam. And with Ken, it was even worse than Jeri because Jeri only had an abusive father. Ken had an abusive father, mother and older brother. Like Jeri, Ken blamed himself for Sam's death believing it was his fault and while Jeri became miss damsel in distress, Ken turned into the villain - cause villains are made, not born.

All in all, the reason I dislike Digimon Tamers is it did not do anything that Adventure 02 hadn't done already. People call Adventure 02 the lighthearted season but I would say its darker than Digimon Tamers without trying too hard.

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Poor Jou does not know how to begin to explain the situation he is in.

The return of the biggest little shit! /affectionate. I know a lot of it is flashback as we catch up on each of the children, but he's working overtime. Good for him.

->Restaurant patrons and staff speak Japanese. ->A handful of the dishes shown appear to also be Japanese ->Only accepts US$.

I don't blame you, Jou. I would be pissed.

You were the one who threw it.

I was serious when I mentioned indentured servitude in my last rewatch post. Anytime I hear paying off a debt that just keeps growing and growing and theoretically you should be protected under the law (no idea what the legalities in the Digital World are. Digitamamon seems to be one of the few capitalistic businesses around), but you're treated like shit, it's the first thing I think of. It is a bit of a stretch, normal indentured servitude is for years. I don't doubt that they would have kept Jou and Yamato there until they were adults.

Oh, that's another thing, child labor.

(I'm also several years post-graduation on classes with this stuff so take my word with caution.)

They are both trying so hard to be considerate. The value of talking to your friends and being honest aahhh...

One screencap does not do well to show how much the poor lad is shaking. I really admire Jou for how he handles his anxiety despite how much shit it gives him. Guy is prepared to go through med school... THEY WILL EAT YOU ALIVE PRECIOUS BEAN! (this is nothing against thinking he can't do it. It's that med school and field can be hell, as conveyed to me by others in my life) He makes a fantastic doctor.

Sora, please, please talk to your friends. They'll love to hear you are all right. Or were even here at all.

You would really have to hate a coworker to mess up so badly to increase the amount of abuse you receive. That is counterproductive. There are better ways to get out of something or convey the message of screw you to the boss without impacting people you work with who you actually like.

Yamato is a way too close to panicking and worry to recognize this though. Oh, and a child, who shouldn't be working at all at this age or knows how this stuff works.

Little brother interrupts break at work: Day immediately 1000x better.

I would not put money on that. You are much too reckless and stubborn.

The dead eyes of evil management.

This is why it's good to have faith in your friends. ๐Ÿ‘

Two angry furry boys.

Love how bristling Ikkakumon looks. Put his partner down!!

ALL HAIL THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP!

Two angry furry boys, except one of them is bipedal now.

Speak for yourself, if he's desperate enough and thinks it is the most productive option, Jou will do anything โค๏ธ.

๐Ÿ‘ True ๐Ÿ‘ friends ๐Ÿ‘ talk ๐Ÿ‘ about ๐Ÿ‘ their ๐Ÿ‘ feelings ๐Ÿ‘

"And I would've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for those meddling kids!"

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I focused a lot on shit work conditions for this, but I do really like this episode for both Yamato and Jou. They're good kids. Should lay off employment for a bit though xD. Saving the world is enough stress.

Yamato and Jou have such an underrated friendship to be honest. Like don't get me wrong I understand why there's such a huge focus on Taichi and Yamato's friendship but these two feel like they should have had more focus. They both struggle with not being good enough and while Jou is more expressive, a lot of the times their journeys are similar.

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