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Me, holding Nightwing by the ankle, dangling him off a tall building menacingly: How many.

Dick: it's not what you-

Me: How many traumatic brain injuries, Nightwing.

Dick: Not that many, honestly, I'm great at avoiding concussions because I'm very mobile and-

Me: oh is that so? Do you need help refreshing your memories, Rick Grayson?

Dick: Listen, I can explain-

Me: Oh yeah? You can explain how you can add a bird of paradise inspired fucking nightlight function in your suit, but can't be arsed to wear the bare minimum of protective headgear?

Dick:

Me: That's what I thought. *I haul him up gruffly, tear off his domino mask, and shove it against his chest forcefully. The expression on my face is so disdainful I might as well have spit on him, but you can't tell because I'm wearing a full head helmet.* I should kill you for this.

Nah, as soon as Bruce realised that Dick was never going to wear a helmet, he had Wayne Enterprises develop a hair conditioner which leaves hair fluffy, managable and impact resistant to the level of a professional hard hat.

It is endlessly fascinating how Jason Todd stans think a father "abandoning and banishing" his son is what Bruce did to Jason when Bruce has gone out of his way to shelter and protect serial killer and attempted murderer of children Jason Todd from any and every reckoning or accountability. In fact. Bruce has welcomed and empowered Jason's murderous ways in some misguided attempt to assuage his own guilt.

Meanwhile, the same lot of Jason Todd stans will happily erase and paint with revisionist brush Dick's actual abandonment and banishment from the only home he knew for almost a decade since he was 8 and where he was never adopted and was forever a ward whose importance was often verbalised by Bruce to be solely due to Robin.

But then, this random enjoys INVENTING lies about Dick to write him as "bad sibling", expecting them to acknowledge Bruce abandoning and vanishing Dick while never holding Jason responsible for his serial killing or attempts at murdering multiple children might just be an ask too far.

Something fanon gets wrong

Dick Grayson is genuinely one of the greatest fighters in all of DC.

I know people have trouble believing this for some reason but a man who has defeated every single one of his enemies, other people’s enemies, and has consistently come out on top should have his abilities talked about a bit more because they’re amazing.

Let's start small to big. Firstly Donna talks about Nightwing's abilities.

When I read this I was confused by what she meant. Prowess means skill or expertise and that makes sense but Dick has a lot of power behind him though...

And then I realized she meant metaphysical power.

Dick isn't a magician. He can't run at supersonic speeds, throw buildings, speak to animals, communicate with the dark, fly above the clouds, bounce bullets off his chest (Oh, wait. He can do it off his ass instead never mind), turn into animals, or other amazing abilities. But his skill is so high that he is easily able to keep up with people who can.

M'gann, the white martian with extraordinary capabilities, tells Dick, "You are just a human, with no superpowers, yet you have consistently excelled throughout your career, despite being surrounded by godlike beings."

This is incredible.

We see Dick leading teams of superheroes and metas all the time and we take it for granted but we never acknowledge the immense power and skill he must have for him to be able to do this.

Repeatedly. Time after time. He outsmarts both his human allies and outfights his meta ones.

One of Dick’s greatest OP moments is when he takes down the entire Titans team -Gar, Raven, Donna, and Jason too when he hung around with them- single handedly. And when Jason put a gun to the back of his head in supposed victory, Dick opened his hand to let the golden bullets fall, gleaming in the light with the coldest line, “with these bullets?”

We all know how amazing Bruce is, but Dick is on Bruce's level.

No?

Okay, here's the evidence.

  1. Dick has fought Azael in a sword fight to a standstill when Azael has beaten Bruce separately and Tim and Jason combined.
  2. He has defeated Ra's in a sword fight and Ra's is one of the greatest swordsmen.
  3. Sometimes he doesn't even need a sword to defeat a skilled swordsman.

He's a League of Assassins member and we all know that anyone from the League of Assassins is never just good. They're excellent. The entire fight Dick is looking for Blockbuster and he's so capable and good at fighting the entire scene was like watching Thanos flick Captain America away vibes. He's not even looking at him when he smashes his foot into Shrike's face!

Most importantly, he has defeated Deathstroke

The greatest thing about Dick is he is able to defeat Slade at the peak of Slade's abilities. Slade doesn't need to be weakened for Dick to win.

Here's where people has some hesitance accepting Dick's abilities.

"Bruce has defeated Slade but Dick has never been able to!"

He literally has in Dark Crisis but I'll give you the lead up.

Dick can easily disarm Slade.

He can predict Slade's moves ahead of time and properly counteract them.

He can go toe to toe with him and in one comic, they dance down a hallway, fighting, neither able to get the upper hand. The mercenary meta, considered by the US Government to be 1 of 2 greatest assassins (the other being Katana) isn't able to pin down and defeat a 20 year old despite his enhancements.

I left out the scene where Dick twisting Deathstroke's arm and smashing his face into a bedroom mirror despite being complete weaponless and in his civilian identity. No protection and no support. But it's another example of how Dick's poweress is much greater than people expect of him.

Of course there are panels where Dick has been defeated by Slade but Dick isn't 17/18 anymore. He isn't learning to fight without Batman hovering over his side.

Also there is a panel everyone references to when talking about Nigthwing losing to Deathstroke. This one.

sure. okay. whatever. BUT WHY WON'T YOU SHOW WHAT HAPPENS NEXT COWARDS?!?

THEY DANCE-FIGHT LIKE THEY'RE ENEMIES IN A BALLROOM ON OPPOSING SIDES BUT CAN'T AFFORD TO LET ANYONE FIND OUT.

THIS IS SOME HIGH LEVEL JAMES BOND-RED NOTICE-MISSION IMPOSSIBLE- TYPE SHIT.

"Close the hold, you morons! Close the--Guuk!"

That's Slade talking by the way. To his allies. Who do you think made him "GUUK!"?

And here they were evenly matched.

But Slade had to pull out bombs he had been saving for when other people came in order to defeat dICK AND HE STILL LOST BECAUSE DICK BESTED HIM.

Yup. Dick is just that good.

Nightwing defeated Bane

Before you go into saying something like "it was a holographic construction." What the fuck difference does that make? Does a holographic construction alter the strength used by the enemy, change their fighting style, phase through when fighting, act dumber than the real deal? No, right? The fact is Dick broke Bane's back the exact same manner that Bane broke Batman's. All those scenes of Bane punching Nightwing around? Let me remind you that the guy snuck up on Dick. The second time Dick underestimated Bane's powers before getting ready to put in real effort before Batman interfered to take Bane for himself.

All those amazing scenes of him defeating enemies that we've scoffed at recently? They're just a continuation of what already is written. It's not new or unbelievable, it's expected.

Here's my final point. Dick has defeated all of the Justice League's enemies in one go.

This is Batman/Superman comic where Kara gets infected so Dick as Batman sends her to the medbay while he tears down the Watchtower to save her. As in every single defense mechanism the Watchtower has, he demolishes it with his pure skill and abilities. Furthermore, the Watchtower defenses were enhanced by cyborg Superman to be lethal. To kill on sight.

Just. Phenomenal.

He did it! He defeated all of them and made it to the electronic controls he was aiming for.

Another thing I want to point is Dick's strength is greater than what people assume it to be.

He's the world's greatest acrobrat and has a build fitting of that but the strength he packs in his body is equal to that of a meta. Maybe it's because of how he only fights with metas and has teammates that are all metas but he has raised his striking power to equal that.

He shatters cyborg superman in one blow.

He can handle blows from meta humans in a way most others can't which suggests to me that he must've done some kind of training or have maybe increased pain tolerance or have the ability to backseat the pain so it won't affect his fighting. How many can take a hit and rise up the next second?

He's not metahuman. Batman must've done several tests because he also was amazed by robin Dick's poweress lol but really Dick is just extraordinary. Give him any enemy and he will garaunteed defeat them without using cheap tricks or surprise moves which is why he is one of the greatest. The only time people have gotten an upperhand on him is when he has been emotionally weakened. Emotionally. Imagine the absolute monster he would be if he controlled his emotions like Batman.

But I would never want him to though because his emotions are the reason why he's the light of DC.

This is for those who insist Dick Grayson is some lightweight dude who stumbled into building multiple gold standards - as Robin, as leader of teams, of non-human superhero, of greatest ally to superheroes and civilians alike. Nope. Dick built those gold standards with literal sweat, blood, and tears, since he was a toddler. Dick is a powerful superhero and his skills don't magically disappear or lessen when he faces edgelords who outweigh him. Dick is a maths prodigy and a scientific thinker - he understands conditioning, leverage, momentum, and basic physics 😉😎

i did not just see read what I read! Someone wrote that Dick Grayson makes himself "appear sympathetic" and he "makes" his skill set appeal to villains. I am speechless. Why is it difficult for folks to accept that Dick has an empathetic disposition? Or that if villains find his skill set appealing, it is not because Dick is actively making himself appealing to literal villains?! Man exists. Man is admired by literal villains who want to coopt him into their murder plots. But here are people claiming it is man's fault for being so good and skillful that villains want him on their side ?? This is dangerously on the side of blaming Dick for his SAs - will they say next Dick is SAed because he "makes" himself appeal to assaulters?? There is thousands of fics by Batfam stans already on that premise, are we now going to use the same line for canon commentary too? That line of thinking and the especial use of Deathstroke to highlight it makes me fear they are actually blaming Dick for Deathstroke and Talia's organisation dropping Chemo on Bludhaven. I just can't. Honest to God, the Batfam fandom is so exhausting. It is day after day of victim shaming and victim blaming some while adoring literal serial killers and attempted child killers.

Normalise villains being villains. Normalise not blaming super skillful people for villains coveting those skills for their side.

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honest to god, i always forget how funny this show is. godfather's face when sixta starts screaming "godfather is watching." priceless.

his ass is NOT watching.

I love the “Bruce is strong enough to pick up post-Lazarus Jason through sheer will and training” trope obviously, but picture:

Jason and Bruce being so heavy/muscular/fucking big, that they’re the only ones who can pick the other up.

Cue Bruce getting called in anytime Jason’s down and they need to move him. Or Jason getting pointed puppy eyes from Alfred until he sighs and picks Bruce up and carries him to bed after he passes out on the couch.

To add -

Somebody DOES carry Jason out of sheer willpower, and that's Dick "Don't tell me what I can't do" Grayson. Jason is his LITTLE wing, thanks very much, and Dick CAN and WILL pick him up. It becomes not uncommon to see Red Hood riding piggyback on a stooped, panting Nightwing who keeps insisting that he "Has it handled."

Dick has been carrying this entire goddamn family on his back since he was NINE. He’s not going to let one (1) a magically induced growth spurt stop him.

You can tell a lot about a person and their sibling trauma based on whether they strongly prefer Damian and Dick having a sibling bond or a parental bond. Anyways hello fellow dick/dami sibling bond enjoyers were you the older sibling that horrendously mistreated your younger sibling because they were “annoying and difficult” and now regret it and wish you could go back and change things or were you the younger sibling who knows you were “annoying and difficult” but constantly wonders why you weren’t good enough for your older sibling to love you regardless of that? :)

Ok let’s delude ourselves for a moment into 1. Forgetting that Bruce has enough money for this to be handled entirely by caretakers and estate managers and 2. Believing that Bruce (or even all of the bat kids for that matter) is going to survive long enough for this to be a problem

Out of all of Bruce’s legally adopted or (mainline canon) biological children, which Batling is this?

There’s no “none of them” option because that’s too obvious and easy

Cass breaking the glass ceiling by being the lowest percentage when irl caretaking usually falls to the daughter because of misogyny

When you’re both hot you get sexualized to hell and back. When you’re both the favorite child and the sacrificial lamb. When you both have dysfunctional families. When you’re both royalty in chains bound by your fathers’ commands. When you both had to grow up in battle. When you both learn no one will save you but yourself yet you’re expected to save everyone else. When you’re both

fab five laser tag. who wins? who gets way too into it? who is there just for the joyride? who lost early just to play other games in the store instead?

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Dick and Donna want to team up, obviously. Secretly, Wally wants to be partnered with Dick, Garth wants to partner with Donna, and Roy thinks teaming up is stupid because they are five people.

Wally and Garth become a team because Roy wants to play solo instead of forming partners, so Wally complains and then Garth feels bad and he quits to go play other games. Donna goes after him to make him feel better and Dick goes to the manager for finding a way to let Garth jump into the fountain.

Meanwhile, Wally and Roy are playing rock paper scissors over and over to see who gets Dick, because it’s guaranteed that his team always wins, and him and Donna together are too overpowered anyway.

When the wonder twins get back, they’ve decided the whole team business is silly anyway and they should all play solo. This does piss off Roy.

FINALLY, they start playing.

Dick and Roy are having the ultimate spy off with both of them staying stealthy and tucked away, making careful shots from a distance.

Wally is not allowed to use his super speed (which he thinks is SUPER unfair) but he’s still zooming around skittishly, bolting from his hiding place anytime he hears a sound- they’re in an arcade so this happens many, many times. Somehow his utter lack of strategy makes his movements impossible to predict and very sudden, so nobody is able to get him for a remarkably long time. He doesn’t fire his gun even vaguely in the direction of anyone even a single time.

Donna is an expert at many things, marksmanship is not one of them and she doesn’t like the guns. So, her strategy is simply to sneak up and shoot from up close. Dick is simply too aware of his surroundings so her plan wouldn’t work on him but Roy has it out for Dick specifically for some reason and is super distracted. So, she gets right up close to him and presses a quick kiss on his cheek before shooting him. Roy is SO mad about being the first one out in a SHOOTING game and he stalks off to join Garth by the fountain.

Wally who has not been paying attention, sees Roy, panics and immediately starts running in the other directionand straight into Donna. He’s been blindly shooting and gets her. Donna has never been so confused about losing in her entire life

Just Wally and Dick left now and it’s the funniest game anyone has ever seen. Dick’s caution against Wally’s volatility, unstoppable force meets immovable object.

Roy has started doing commentary, Donna and Garth have bought every single type of fun human snack and the entire peanut gallery is bowled over in laughter watching them.

Dick is flummoxed, astounded, and flabbergasted. He hears his friends laughing and decides to give them a show. He makes his most serious face and alternates it with letting his confusion show even more blatantly. Occasionally, he takes careful steps to shepherd Wally into picking the most ludicrous places as his hiding spots.

Wally who’s releasing so much pent up energy is having the time of his life, he’s given up on survival too and is just darting around.

This goes on and on until the manager kicks them out and nobody gets to win.

They make it a tradition to go every year.

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I think the only thing worse than Roy being more accepted as a love interest for Jason than for Dick is Sl*de being more accepted as a love interest for Dick than Roy.Like.Like.You guys are kidding right????They were literally best friends for almost 40 years in irl time and for about a bit over a decade in-universe,their relathionship has so much romantic and to a lesser extent sexual subtext that i'm unironically convinced that they're in love with eachother as they are/were with Jade and Kory,Dick has infinitely more chemistry with Roy than he does with Babs and you'd barely have to change anything in their dynamic to make them a couple.And yet y'all would rather see Roy with someone who was FOURTEEN when he had an entire daughter and that he got his entire character erased to prop up,including making said daughter not canon anymore,and Dick with the guy who's such a misogynist that he's abused literally every woman he's had significant interactions with,was old enough to have kids Dick's age when Dick wasn't even done being Robin AND who literally looks like a racist grandpa(which he is)???????WHERE IS Y'ALL'S TASTE WHERE IS ITTTTTTTT

" yet y'all would rather see Roy with someone who was FOURTEEN when he had an entire daughter and that he got his entire character erased to prop up,including making said daughter not canon anymore....
Darling babe girl I've never met before, I think you're missing some context.

DICK IS THE VERY FUCKING REASON THAT ROY EVER HAD LIAN IN HIS CUSTODY IN THE FIRST PLACE!

(do do do battle anti copyright)

Dick Grayson was willing to risk life and limb for the daughter he just found out that his best friend had.

Out of the goodness of his own damn heart.

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