I love that I can say "disliking on ao3 would be bad. downvoting on ao3 would be bad. any kind of "thumbs down" function on ao3 would be bad and they would kill peoples motivation to write" and I'll still get someone (who. 9/10 times. isn't a writer and doesn't actually post their shit to ao3 at all if they've written any) going "well I PERSONALLY don't think it would be that bad i think it would be useful" like. yeah I'm sure your ability to cherry-pick the Best Fics Of The Bunch instead of learning how to use their damn tagging system is worth writers losing the motivation to ever post their shit again bc entitled assholes wanna downvote. fuck off
I think people sometimes think (maybe not consciously) "Oh it wouldn't be so bad, only bad fics would get downvotes so only bad writers would lose their motivation and that's fine because who needs more bad fics?" and like
Set aside that of course it's bad for anyone to be discouraged from doing a fun hobby for fun
Just from a purely selfish perspective. You need bad writers to have good writers. Bad writers, through a process of a whole lot of bad writing, BECOME good writers. If you kill their motivation early on with downvotes or dislikes or low star ratings or mean-spirited unprompted criticism or whatever we're debating this week, they'll never get the practice necessary to get better.
exactly. like speaking from experience im only the writer i am now BECAUSE i had a judgement-free space like ao3 & the support of my friends who cheered me on when I was a teenager and my writing style was underdeveloped and awkward & my fanfics were WILDLY ooc. it was already disheartening and kinda a let-down as a kid to see my fics not get the love I thought they would (even though years later I can understand why bc they were not really. good.) but I was still able to keep my head up about it and keep writing because at least no one was downright hating on it. I kept writing and getting better at it and it was literally a kind comment on one of my old "cringey" fics over two years after I posted it that was the deciding factor that got me to write a fanfic i'd been pondering about starting for a few days. it's my longest & most popular work now.
but if i got downvotes as a kid? if i got low-star reviews? i never would have become the writer i am now and continued developing my style because that 15 year old girl would've been too heartbroken to write again. even the handful of less-than-nice/"confused" comments she got ruined her day sometimes.
so when people (who are RARELY writers themselves) go "oh well I think it'd be helpful to filter out the BAD stuff that I can't be bothered to filter out myself so i'd love a downvote button" they're saying (whether they mean to or not) that there should be this kind of benchmark for what fics are "good enough" to be given the time of day/not get downvoted. and that is incredibly unfair to newer/under-experienced writers because it's like throwing them under the bus so entitled readers can have an easier time finding fics bc they don't wanna do a little digging through works already made for free for them to look through and enjoy.
and like you said it also just. wouldn't be used right. even if it WERE just intended to measure "quality" (which is bullshit but that's already been established) it would just be used to tear down others works. people would dislike because it had a ship they don't like (one that was clearly tagged and could've been filtered out); people would dislike because it's part of a fandom everyone's switching up on & deciding to hate; people would dislike because the author was mentioned in some bullshit callout post. the same people who want a dislike button are the same people that would use it in the worst ways they can. it would literally have no benefit except to make people feel like shit.